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[Anonymous No.22106216]

Writers' Strike Edition

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[Anonymous No.22106284]

What's the scifi/fantasy equivalent of biting into a piece of dog shit?

[Anonymous No.22106295]

>>22106284
Reading Malazan
>“Children are dying." Lull nodded. "That's a succinct summary of humankind, I'd say. Who needs tomes and volumes of history? Children are dying. The injustices of the world hide in those three words.”
Eriksonfags think this shit is deep

[Anonymous No.22106304]

Decided to not drop The Black Company and am liking it more now, only like 30 pages left

[Anonymous No.22106310]

>>22106284
Reading Sanderson

[Anonymous No.22106316]

>>22106216
did that jew Gayman fly to California from whatever he lives just to "protest"? lol

[Anonymous No.22106340]

I'm writing a story about a Dark Lord getting revenge against the Chosen Hero!

I hope someone reads it when I finish it! I was inspired by Rothfuss, Sanderson, and Martin.

[Anonymous No.22106352]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy

[Anonymous No.22106360]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fight with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22106367]

why does Laquisha have a teapot on her head? lol

[Anonymous No.22106370]

JK did her dirty

[Anonymous No.22106394]

>>22106370
Time did her dirty too

[Anonymous No.22106397]

>>22106394
No, not time. Her bong genes.

[Anonymous No.22106401]

Top kawaii, going to read Howl's next

[Anonymous No.22106424]

Writers should be paid less

[Anonymous No.22106624]

>>22106424
Authors should be paid more. Hollywood writers should be paid less.

[Anonymous No.22106896]

Just watched The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald: The Visitors From Outer Space. Any good McDonald's books set in the McDonald's universe?

[Anonymous No.22106900]

>I'm black so my hair must be ridiculous
Why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.22106903]

>>22106340
What about a story about a Dark Lord getting revenge against the Chosen Hero's mother?

[Anonymous No.22106910]

>>22106216
George has been on writers strike for years, no wonder he is there offering support.

[Anonymous No.22106941]

>>22106903
Not him but I just can't stand Mom NTR, it feels way worse than regular NTR for me. Can't really explain why either.

With that said, if instead of the story ending with the demon lord "stealing" the mom, it ended with both the hero and the demon lord sharing the mom, then it would be a fantastic idea.

[Anonymous No.22106964]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/creating-the-look-of-the-lord-of-the-rings-tales-of-middle-earth
>Some characters may look different from previous depictions—and that's intentional. Great works of art like The Lord of the Rings are only enhanced by having multiple interpretations in the world. We believe ours will bring joy to many, many fans of both Magic and Tolkien. This fresh update was a conscious choice made in partnership between Wizards and MEE and was driven by two guiding principles:
>Diversity: The Lord of the Rings is about the different peoples of Middle-earth coming together to fight Sauron, finding strength in their diversity. Fans of all backgrounds have been enjoying these stories, characters, and locations for decades, and we wanted this set to reflect on that broad inclusion.
WE

[Anonymous No.22106978]

>>22106964
Ar-Aragorn???

[Anonymous No.22106982]

>>22106964
Americans are cucks

[Anonymous No.22106984]

>>22106941
mom ntr is even hotter

[Anonymous No.22106985]

>>22106964
>Magic
Who cares? That shit died in 2016

[Anonymous No.22106998]

>>22106340
>inspired by Rothfuss
no thank you

[Anonymous No.22107003]

>>22106964
Ok did the brainworms finally get to me or isn't there a part in LOTR where they describe Aragorn as "dark"? Now I'm not saying this to mean that he was black, I'm sure it was referring to something else, but I just want to know if they really did describe him as that or if I'm just remembering things wrong.

[Anonymous No.22107005]

After thinking about it for a bit, that old pasta of Keely's review of Book of the New Sun feels strangely unsubstancial in many points.

His critique of the prose is perhaps the most obviously biased part of the review: because he is personally familiar with latin and thus can untangle the obscure terms Wolfe uses he demerits the usage of those words, yet thats no basis for a critique. He repeats how he doesnt find Wolfe's prose evocative or plain good, comparing him with other authors, yet he fails to explain how exactly it fails beyond personal taste.

His words about Severian as a character are more reasonable: while I think he is and becomes a very nuanced, interesting, worthy protagonist and narrator the impression of a cheap mary sue was very present the first time I read SotT. Yet, at the same time, Keely then goes on to tear him a new one on the basis of being an inmoral, despicable character and the question I would have is: why is that a problem? In which way Severian being "evil" represents a narrative failing? He reiterates this perception several times but it is never justified.

But my biggest problem is perhaps his treatment of the plot: what conflict in BotNS is ever resolved solely on the basis of a magical artifact? He mentions the story being moved only by a dozen of characters, all with many secret identities and Inhuman designs yet I cant find a single trace of such a society in the story: CotC alone introduces many new characters and if only, the ease Wolfe has dropping characters left and right after short introductions should be the frustrating part. And Keely justifies such a brass judgement based only on the first two books? Well, once again, he provides no examples besides his own words.

[Anonymous No.22107008]

>>22107003
I think Strider is described as being a dark fellow when he is first introduced. To be "dark" in this context refers to having dark features - eyes, hair, maybe a swarthy complexion - as in the phrase "tall, dark, and handsome".
To my knowledge the only populace described as black by Tolkien are the people of Far Harad.

[Anonymous No.22107023]

>>22107005
Because thats something to keep in mind: Keely's verbose critique is based only on the first two books he apparently read not paying too much attention. His sweeping claims and judgements are based on an incomplete, badly understood portrait riddled with personal distaste and no justifications.

Because he doesnt sees the thread running across the plot he discards the entire thing as an experiment on meta-narratives and unreliable narrators, and claims that those must never be done unless the contradiction suggesting the alternate explenation is obvious. What kind of critique is that? Since when stories of that kind are judged by how easy they make the job of the reader? Lets leave aside the fact that BotNS has a clear narrative arc and themes, how can he judge to that level when he didnt even finished the story?

And to top it all, he then goes to talk about how based on these two books, he can say with confidence that Wolfe was a man uncomfortable with his sexuality, of course in the most holier than thou way possible, and adding nothing to the review.

All in all, despite hitting some valid points, he comes up as someone that loves to huff his own farts too much.

[Anonymous No.22107026]

>>22106964
>finding strength in their diversity
Bullshit lol. They fought Sauron because it was the right thing to do. Their goal was singular.

[Anonymous No.22107089]

>>22106295
It would be a good line if it were a little more concise

[Anonymous No.22107102]

>>22106295
Woah.....

[Anonymous No.22107106]

>>22107003
Dark in a medieval European context, not in a modern globalist one. It means having dark hair and/or eyes.

[Anonymous No.22107127]

>>22106964
>here's your Anduril bro
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.22107147]

>>22107127
Anduril isn't a magic sword. Why do they put magic runes on it?

[Anonymous No.22107212]

>Hothouse ended up being science-fantasy kino
Sorry for calling it shit, lads. It picks up massively 70 pages in when the mind-control fungus is introduced

[Anonymous No.22107215]

>>22106352
>>22106360
as long as we are dividing LITRPG from the rest, might we as well divide self-published from trad-published?

[Anonymous No.22107216]

>>22106900
Sir, that's a head wrap.

[Anonymous No.22107243]

>>22107147
Because they don't expect a modern person to accept the symbolic value of one sword over another, so they have to have it shit out fire and lighting for you to accept that it's important.
>Bruh what's with all the fuss about the old piece of metal, just use a mass produced iSword like the rest of us fr fr

[Anonymous No.22107252]

Daughter of the Forest/Sevenwaters series worth reading?

[Anonymous No.22107268]

Any books about a magical King ruling over his Kingdom that has been destroyed because he offended the gods?

[Anonymous No.22107277]

>>22107268
there should be more stories about kings

[Anonymous No.22107303]

>>22106216
>Writers strike
Considering what shit movies and shows hollyjew and the streaming services have produced. They deserve to lose their jobs. On another note im really enjoying the black company books i just finished the book of the south.

[Anonymous No.22107313]

>>22107277
I assume that in Japan you have a bunch of isekai light novels about people industrialising their previously medieval kingdoms and conquering everyone else

[Anonymous No.22107390]

>>22107216

[Anonymous No.22107395]

>>22107003
it's like when people used to say "tall, dark and handsome" that wouldn't mean his skin is dark, usually dark hair, dark eyes and a serious face

[Anonymous No.22107429]

>>22107390
I stand corrected. Seriously looked like wool in the OP pic.

[Anonymous No.22107555]

dead thread

[Anonymous No.22107574]

>>22106216
Neil Gaiman looks like absolute shit now
any books about transcending the ravages of time on the human body?

[Anonymous No.22107624]

Cast it and describe your way of adapting it

[Anonymous No.22107630]

>>22107624
A complete rewrite to make it less like Earth Girls Are Easy.

[Anonymous No.22107643]

>>22107574
why do you ask?

[Anonymous No.22107652]

>>22107643
>why do you ask?
To pump myself up for the vampiric life force absorption rituals I need to perform to ward off ageing.

[Anonymous No.22107704]

>>22106653
What can I say? I'm a glass half empty kind of guy. If I had to say what I like about it, it's magitech + very soft sci fi but enjoyable if you don't question it. I generally don't like magitech at all (too close to cringe steampunk) but it works surprisingly well here.

[Anonymous No.22107731]

>>22107630
Is it really like that or are you lying?

[Anonymous No.22107770]

>>22107643
to cope with the fact i'm nearing my forties and shit's not getting better

[Anonymous No.22107789]

>>22107624
sean bean - all roles

[Anonymous No.22107794]

anyone write sf or fantasy and need an editor? i usually get stuck with nonfiction

[Anonymous No.22107941]

>>22107794
how much do you charge?
I am currently editing my own books again. Have written and selfpubd three of em. Just redid the cover of the first one with a better picture, and I am almost finished on the second.

[Anonymous No.22107947]

Is Sci-Fi always left wing and utopianist because Technology Progression -> People's Life become better?

[Anonymous No.22107958]

>>22107390
>Nnedimma Nkemdili "Nnedi Okorafor is a Nigerian- ^ American writer of science fiction and fantasy for both children and adults. She is best known for her Binti Series and her novels Who Fears Death, Zahrah the Windseeker, Akata Witch, Akata Warrior, Lagoon and Remote Control. She has also written for comics and film.
>Born in Cincinnati, Ohio, UNITED STATES

[Anonymous No.22107964]

>>22107390
That dowrap must REEK

[Anonymous No.22107975]

>>22107947
Halo and Starship troopers is hardy left-wing or utopian.

[Anonymous No.22107977]

>>22107947
Not always. Modern ones are, I got so sick of The Expanse books endlessly taking jabs at men for pretty much everything after a while. Hell, near the end of the books every single person with political power is an incorruptible woman with noble goals who is so much better than the evil or silly male politicians. Also the female Marine constantly looks down on men for being attracted to her, and the entire crew forgives one of the most vicious villains they had to face because she's a woman, including the one who wants to murder anyone who so much as insults them for some reason. The author(s) just can't help themselves with their feminist brainwashing and it's garbage as a result.

[Anonymous No.22107982]

>>22107975
*I meant it is ''hardly left-wing'' or utopian

[Anonymous No.22107986]

>>22107947
No.
I have seen far too much modern sci-fi (or read it) that seems to focus on sci fi as a dystopian scenario. Most of what I see as upcoming SciFi is all dystopian shit.
I wrote a very hopeful sci fi trilogy (so far) about western man conquering the galaxy, which mostly means subjugating new and dangerous worlds for the betterment of mankind.
It is not left wing at all. The bad guys in it are space commie jews.
The Imperium in my books is spread across 10,000 worlds, but a small minority of those worlds hold a majority of the population. So you have a lot of worlds that have various types of governments. I even have some planets that refuse to use most modern tech and instead live under a feudal system with honor and virtue and horses and traditional women.
One world described in the book is very utilitarian, and the character hates it for that reason.
Another is far more modern with familiar class distinctions and economic zones.
None are considered utopian. That is fantasy in relation to human nature, and I don't touch on it.
Also, you can trust me. I have sold about a dozen copies on AMazon. BoOOOM.

[Anonymous No.22108026]

>>22107958
When will books be judged on their content rather than the race of their author?

I'm sure the majority of writers who can't get published due to racial reasons/ their books aren't far left enough, would love to start a publishing collective where the author's name/face is hidden until after the book is decided to be published. Manuscripts should be differentiated by number received

Today I read manuscript

> 0002

Could this ever work? Why hasn't a publishing house done this?

[Anonymous No.22108029]

>>22108026
You'd still have to hire non bias editors and staff. Which would be tough.

[Anonymous No.22108033]

>>22108026
They haven't done it because the industry is being squeezed by a certain tribe of money-grubbing subhumans. They collectivize media for myriad reasons, and right now they are using it as a weapon to demoralize native populations of people that they see as cattle.

[Anonymous No.22108037]

>>22106401
is this an allegory for an escort service?

[Anonymous No.22108042]

>>22108026
My point is she's not Nigerian.

[Anonymous No.22108060]

>>22108033
>myriad reasons,
such as?
>right now they are using it as a weapon to demoralize native populations of people
why?

[Anonymous No.22108086]

>>22107390

[Anonymous No.22108087]

>>22108060
I would suggest that collectivizing media would be much like collectivizing any other powerful tool. It helps your group to have access to the tool. It further helps your group to deny access to your enemies.
You can corner a market that way and drive up profits. You can gouge an industry, I suppose. You can spread propaganda. You can do that with a varying degree of pressure, depending on the desired outcome.
You can do it to hold power or built to the power that you already have. In America (and the west in general) there is a massive consumer base, so consolidating a media service would be a good way to build wealth.


These people use it as a weapon to demoralize because they are evil. They hate the Lord and His son, Jesus Christ. Everything they do is meant to demean followers of Christ. Moreover, they hold deep drudges, going all the way back to when homo sapians fought and killed their neanderthal ancestors. Also, they are of the line of Cain and are still butthurt about what happened. They hate Rome to this day, and they see western civ (rightfully) as Rome's successor.

[Anonymous No.22108103]

>>22108087
>homo sapians fought and killed their neanderthal ancestors.
wut? neanderthals are (their) ancestors? where did u learn this?
>Also, they are of the line of Cain
dude wut? how can (they) be the line Cain when the Bible says they're descended from the line of Abel? how tf ard you coming up with this shit?

[Anonymous No.22108127]

Yearly reminder to read The Darkness That Comes Before by R. Scott Bakker.

[Anonymous No.22108133]

>>22108103
You are seriously confused on what you think you know.

Modern jews are edomite scum that comes from Cain. Where the fuck are you getting this? Try and catch up.

Israelites were from Adam. Modern jews are not fucking Israelites.

As far as neanderthals, that is just a great theory that some folks have. One guy even wrote a book about neanderthals as superpredators that forced humans to evolve. He doesn't call them jews though. lol.

[Anonymous No.22108163]

thoughts on this?

[Anonymous No.22108228]

>>22108103
>>22108133
the most politically correct /lit/ conversation

[Anonymous No.22108237]

>>22108127
>Yearly reminder to read The Darkness That Comes Before by R. Scott Bakker.

[Anonymous No.22108261]

>>22108228
I'll take that as a compliment, mein fren.

[Anonymous No.22108265]

thoughts on this?

[Anonymous No.22108275]

>>22108265
liked it a lot. I'm a sucker for Prime Directive storylines. Was hard to be a god the first one?

[Anonymous No.22108309]

>>22108275
idk this is from 1964

[Anonymous No.22108342]

Anyone read The Chronicles of an Age of Darkness by Hugh Cook?

[Anonymous No.22108362]

>>22106964
>enhanced by having multiple interpretations in the world
If the contrivance of the race or skin colour of a character is considered an 'interpretation' then people are trukt braindead.

[Anonymous No.22108382]

>>22108133
>Israelites were from Adam. Modern jews are not fucking Israelites.
Jews are a descended from Israelites retard. They are literally the remaining tribe of the 12 tribes of Israel. Judah was literally a son of Jacob (Israel).

[Anonymous No.22108390]

>>22108342
>The Chronicles of an Age of Darkness began with an ambitious outline for a series of twenty novels. This would have been followed by two equally long series, The Chronicles of an Age of Wrath, and The Chronicles of an Age of Heroes. This sixty-volume scheme ended with the publication of the tenth volume because of disappointing sales
lol what the fuck is wrong with fantasy authors. Put the pen down.

[Anonymous No.22108453]

>>22108382
No, stop your jewish lies. Judah was the son of Jacob that God loved. Esau was the son that God hated.
Edomites are descendants of Esau. They are not the same as Israelites or Hebrews. They are teh synagogue of satan. Modern jewry is descended from these Edomites. They murdered the Christ. Then, they were destroyed by the Romans.
The rabbi they let live went on to recreate judaism with the talmud. Modern jewry is babylonian talmud satanism.
Even jews actually admit this. Catch up, kike.

[Anonymous No.22108464]

>>22106964
I would ultimately wish they would just add a new territory than this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.22108530]

>>22108342
It has giant crabs

[Anonymous No.22108534]

>>22108342
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Anonymous No.22108541]

>>22108453
>Modern jewry is descended from these Edomites.
and you just pulled this out of your ass goy

[Anonymous No.22108570]

>>22107023
>Because he doesnt sees the thread running across the plot he discards the entire thing as an experiment on meta-narratives and unreliable narrators, and claims that those must never be done unless the contradiction suggesting the alternate explenation is obvious. What kind of critique is that? Since when stories of that kind are judged by how easy they make the job of the reader? Lets leave aside the fact that BotNS has a clear narrative arc and themes, how can he judge to that level when he didnt even finished the story?
Keely is a retard but you're being the retarded one here
You shouldn't have to read an entire series to see if you like it or not.
You remind me of the wheel of time fans who, when people state that they didn't like the eye of the world, tell them to "read the entire series" and "it gets better"
No, if i read a book and don't like it i'm not going to spend my free time reading thousands more pages because some fanboy told me it gets better.
That's retarded
And yes, keely's review is stupid but it does hit on some correct points. BOTNs is good but not perfect

[Anonymous No.22108587]

>>22108570
I actually agree with several of his points, and that review is useful to bring Wolfe fans back to earth. But I am not saying that he needs to like the series or to force himself to read it all, but rather that the sweeping, grandiose judgements feel very out of place if he just read the first two books.

[Anonymous No.22108589]

Dunno but i do love dominant jewish women

[Anonymous No.22108631]

Is there any good sci-fi involving time travel?

[Anonymous No.22108641]

>>22107941
basically whatever people can afford. i give people who don't have the money a break using custom offers

hit up matthewg42 on fiverr

[Anonymous No.22108666]

>>22108453
If they did nit murder Christ, then he could not have died for your sins.

[Anonymous No.22108667]

I've finished Death's End recently. Is Ball Lightning any good? Also should I read Redemption of Time by Baoshu? The title alone makes it sound kino with the implications that it would bring to the series as a finale.

[Anonymous No.22108673]

>>22108666
*if they did not

[Anonymous No.22108685]

>>22108667
If you liked what you read then why not?

[Anonymous No.22108709]

Waiting daily for new chapters completely drags Circle of Inevitability out. Binge reading a thousand chapters is the real way of reading webnovels.

[Anonymous No.22108717]

>>22108685
I found Three Body Problem to be a bit bland as it failed to characterize anyone except Yi Wenjie. Dark Forrest was perfect, but then Death's End was a weird mix of under-explored cool ideas interspersed with moments of what felt like authors suppressed feeling of sexual insecurity and fear of emasculation. Thus I am weary that maybe Ball Lightning, that came way before the trilogy, will be a bit meh.

[Anonymous No.22108775]

>>22108709
That's why you don't read anything that isn't already finished.

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[Anonymous No.22108852]

>>22106216
I need a sf/fantasy novel for a pessimist/nihilist looser like myself. I kinda enjoyed BOTNS and Bakker rencently, but not as much as when I read books such as Gotrek & Felix and Drizzt when I was a kid

[Anonymous No.22108886]

>>22106984
This motherfucker gets it

[Anonymous No.22108940]

Has the recommended infopic been updated in the last year or 2?

[Anonymous No.22108956]

>go to big used booksale
>holy crap that's a lot of books
>no time to look at everything, just buy the stuff with the best covers

Looking forward to this. Is Sturgeon a big coomer?

[Anonymous No.22108963]

>>22108956
fug

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>>22108963
>>22108956
you made a good choice. Read the Dreaming Jewels as well

[Anonymous No.22109025]

>>22107390
likely smells like shit

[Anonymous No.22109092]

>>22108940
You'll have to be more specific than that.

[Anonymous No.22109242]

>>22106941
>demon lord redeems himself thanks to the power of mature motherly love and becomes best hole bros with the hero and the three of them live happily ever after.
Kino
>>22106984
>>22108886
There are two wolves inside me. One enjoys hardcore momntr, the other enjoys loveydovey momcest.

[Anonymous No.22109245]

>>22108824
whats that bug monster on the cover? i dont remember it

[Anonymous No.22109285]

>>22108237
>>Yearly reminder to read The Darkness That Comes Before by R. Scott Bakker.

[Anonymous No.22109315]

Ace Combat, The Novel

[Anonymous No.22109331]

>>22109285
How old is this unfortunate specimen?

[Anonymous No.22109368]

Just finished children of time
a surprisingly nice read

[Anonymous No.22109373]

>>22106216
This narrative Ponzi scheming Boomer croaking at the writers' strike would be amusing.

[Anonymous No.22109379]

>>22109285

[Anonymous No.22109504]

>>22107003
"'Then who would you take up with?' asked Strider. 'A fat innkeeper who only remembers his own name because people shout it at him all day? They cannot stay in The Pony for ever, and they cannot go home. They have a long road before them. Will you go with them and keep the black men off?'"

[Anonymous No.22109519]

>>22107975
In a way it is - military sci fi is afraid of its own racism and displaces its anxiety onto aliens. I enjoy it, but it's inherently cowardly.

[Anonymous No.22109530]

>>22108342
>Huge Cock

[Anonymous No.22109533]

>>22108852
Have you read Thomas Covenant?

[Anonymous No.22109582]

/sffg/'s thoughts on Battlefield Earth

[Anonymous No.22109603]

>>22109582
there's a reason he went into the cult game instead of becoming a successful writer.

[Anonymous No.22109612]

>>22108852
Check out Wagner’s Kane if you haven’t. Also second Thomas Covenant.

[Anonymous No.22109619]

>>22109582
I read it as a kid and found it goofy but fun. I dropped Mission Earth at some point, though. Even I have limits.

[Anonymous No.22109642]

>>22109603
What other Sci Fi writers do you think could pull off starting a cult like scientology?
Could Herbert make a cult based on Dune lore?
Maybe Vance could make a cult based on Vancian magic?

[Anonymous No.22109719]

>>22109642
If Heinlein was younger when he published SISL (like let’s say 27 if he was), he would have started something like Mike did in the book.

[Anonymous No.22109776]

Any fantasy/sf featuring cute lizard girls?

[Anonymous No.22109789]

>>22106284
Reading 99% of the drivel this general full of pseuds recommend

[Anonymous No.22109797]

>>22106964
>Diversity: The Lord of the Rings is about the different peoples of Middle-earth coming together to fight Sauron, finding strength in their diversity
…the elf and the dwarf spend almost the entire time shit talking each other, then become like the only elf and dwarf in all of history to actually not hate each other

[Anonymous No.22109798]

>>22109582
>this schizo was able to commission Frazetta to make cover art for his shitty book but you will never have that opportunity
It isn't fair bros.

[Anonymous No.22109802]

>>22109642
Gene Wolfe could have easily made lore worthy of a cult of rubes

[Anonymous No.22109818]

>>22109798
You're lucky if you get an actual artist now. It's all photoshopped swords and belt buckles. Soon it will be aislop.

[Anonymous No.22109820]

>>22106216
Please tell me op pic has meme edits

[Anonymous No.22109830]

>>22109818
>It's all photoshopped swords and belt buckles
Fuck dude don't remind me. Pic related it's Cinder Spires 1 (2015) vs Cinder Spires 2 (2023). I hate modern cover art so much it's unreal. Maybe I can at least make an AIslop generator in Frazetta's style to cope

[Anonymous No.22109845]

>>22109830

[Anonymous No.22109847]

Not strictly SFF, but does anyone have suggestions for books on cryptids? Picrel seems to be the best work on this subject that I've been able to find. There are two volumes and it indeed is quite encyclopaedic. Can anyone suggest anything else similar?

[Anonymous No.22109853]

>>22109847
John Keel's the Mothman Prophecy
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[Anonymous No.22109873]

>>22109853
Non-schizo stuff, please.

[Anonymous No.22109888]

>>22109873
>John Keel
>schizo
https://youtu.be/vRz3deg1crY

Read Passport to Magonia

[Anonymous No.22109909]

I tried listening to The poppy War on audio book. I couldn't get into it. I only gave it 20 mins while I was on the treadmill at the gym. I'm not sure if I am a racist bigot and can't enjoy it because the MC i 14 year old Asian girl, can't self-insert etc. Or if the book isn't any good. Perhaps I should read it instead.

For now I am going back to the Drenai series. Can someone recommend me some great audio books?

Here are some I liked
>Name of the Wind
>Drenai Series
>GOT
>The Ocean at the End of the Lane


I really liked how GOT wasn't "bad guys vs Good guys", but I haven't found another book like it or at least not one where the characters were fleshed out and interesting. I'm just getting into Fantasy will take any recommendations. I have a MAM account so I have access to most books.

[Anonymous No.22109920]

>>22109909
I did not enjoy reading Poppy War. It's all thinly veiled allegories and feminism with a veneer of lazily constructed fantasy world building that barely holds together.

[Anonymous No.22110013]

>>22109920
Yeah I'm trying to be open minded, but it's hard for me to believe a girl war orphan wouldn't want to be wed to a rich merchant. It's not very realistic.

> She's just so smart, she'd rather go to school
> She tricked her male tutor into helping her study for school by giving him opium and then threatening to tell his loans sharks his location.
> Tough, smart, and beautiful.

I read the Brent Weeks Night Angel Trilogy, it wasn't great, but his portrayal of women wasn't too far left either. Some women characters were mages, but they excelled at different magic than men. A more feminine type of magic. There were women assasins, but they dealt with their targets differently and faced different obstacles. His realistic portrayals of women and men were the best part of the book.

[Anonymous No.22110032]

>>22109845
Holy shit. This is a real book.

[Anonymous No.22110049]

>chapter 1
>a woman has sex with a big black lizard to make chuds seethe

Ah yes, (((Silverburg)))

[Anonymous No.22110062]

>>22109245
I prefer the original cover

[Anonymous No.22110063]

>>22110013
>but it's hard for me to believe a girl war orphan wouldn't want to be wed to a rich merchant. It's not very realistic.
I know that /pol/, blacked and modern american politics have rotten your brain but not all women are whores.

[Anonymous No.22110162]

>>22106216
>>22106964
>character is about his particular ancestor, legacy, and how he approaches this
>character design is explicitly made for diversity
do they have no tact or sense at all? its like they are intentionally trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Its like they actively want people to either be insipid, or insipid and racist.
Should just rename "flame of the west" to "flame of the rest" since the blood of numenor seems to be spent and over particularizing a direction is a bit exclusionary.

[Anonymous No.22110210]

>>22110063
I hope she sees this, king.

[Anonymous No.22110216]

>>22109909
Have you read Gemmell's Jerusalem Man books?

[Anonymous No.22110227]

>>22110049
>Before the age of 30, Silverberg was independently wealthy through his investments and once owned the former mansion of New York City Mayor Fiorello La Guardia

[Anonymous No.22110246]

>>22109642
>What other Sci Fi writers do you think could pull off starting a cult like scientology?
Arthur C Clarke had it already
He was a renowned pedo in sri lanka

[Anonymous No.22110270]

>>22109776
The wandering inn

[Anonymous No.22110298]

>>22110246
I've heard he was a p89°, but is there any actual proof? Also I need to revisit his stuff, I used to love him as a teenager but haven't read any of his stuff in years, and never finished the Space Odyssey series, so I feel kind of guilty for not doing that lol

[Anonymous No.22110305]

Recommend me Japanese authored western-style fantasy? (Preferably prose, but I'll accept manga also)

[Anonymous No.22110351]

>>22110305
Is there such a thing as western-style nip fantasy? I know there is some westaboo mangas out there but can they really catch the spirit of the genre?

[Anonymous No.22110356]

>>22106295
Is this meant to be a deficient character?

[Anonymous No.22110357]

>>22110063
Perhaps. Perhaps it is a book written and published with politcal themes in mind to cater to a particular demographic. Either way its a shit book.

>>22110216
I haven't, never heard of them. Do you like them? I'll check them out. I was thinking of trying his Westerns.

>>22110162
I believe books will get more and more outrageous, similar to >>22109845. They want to invoke disgust so they denounce you as a racist/bigot etc. I'm thinking of getting into self published books. If I could find one of quality similar to Gemmel that'd be satisfying.

In the middle of Quest for Lost Heros and it has two gay characters that are not obnoxious about it. It's not shoved down your throat, or paraded as better than anything.

[Anonymous No.22110370]

>>22110305
Guin Saga by Kaoru Kurimoto.

[Anonymous No.22110389]

>>22110305
I just like some of the character designs like the giant fox girl.

[Anonymous No.22110412]

>Finished Dune
>Finished The Wheel of Time
>Caught up with Stormlight Archive/Mistborn
>Finished Malazan
>Finished The First Law
>Caught up with The Bloodsworn Saga
>Caught up with Berserk
What else can I sink my teeth into? I need to explore the sci-fi genre more

[Anonymous No.22110421]

>>22110412
Read the whole solar cycle by Gene Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.22110436]

>>22110421
Sell me on it

[Anonymous No.22110442]

>>22110436
Don't have time right now for a whole "sales pitch", but I think this image I have from the archive will probably help.

[Anonymous No.22110451]

>>22110442
>Dark Souls
>Flying ship
>Guts
Ok I'm sold

[Anonymous No.22110486]

>>22110298
>I've heard he was a p89°, but is there any actual proof? Also I need to revisit his stuff, I used to love him as a teenager but haven't read any of his stuff in years, and never finished the Space Odyssey series, so I feel kind of guilty for not doing that lol
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHB_Yp1UidA

[Anonymous No.22110510]

>>22109285
Exactly as I thought typical Sandersoys would look like

[Anonymous No.22110517]

>>22110436
>"Sell me on it"
Seems like you can't grab a book without external influence.
You don't deserve Wolfe—begone!
Back to the depths of illiteracy and Sanderson books.
One your way, one foot before the other,
Maybe tiktok or instagram will tell you nicer.

[Anonymous No.22110538]

>>22110517
Seems like you need some therapy anon

[Anonymous No.22110549]

>>22110517
>picks 1 (one) author out of many
>defaults to zoomie shit
Go back you fucking tourist

[Anonymous No.22110588]

>>22110049
I read A Time of Changes a month ago. The sheer amount of shoehorned sex scenes in that book is impressive, although it kind of makes sense in relation to the narrative. It got weird when I realised Silverberg was basically describing a muscular, well hung version of himself.

[Anonymous No.22110649]

>>22109776
If dragons counts, then maybe Wings of Fire series. It's aimed at younger reader, but it's fun.

[Anonymous No.22110655]

Is Chronicles Of Amber anything like Dying Earth or Book Of The New Sun? This series has been recommended to me often since I'm looking for Sci-fi/Fantasy hybrid novels

[Anonymous No.22110673]

>>22110655
just read them, see if you like them
you people seriously spend more time trying to choose what to read instead of reading it
there is no objective answer to what is better than the other
holy shit

[Anonymous No.22110684]

Does the series really drop off after this or am I being memed?
Currently on Fires of Heaven and am still enjoying myself, but now I'm unsure whether I should go ahead and try to build up my collection or just drop it.

[Anonymous No.22110688]

>>22110684
the consensus is that there is a long slog in the middle of the series
it is your call whether it is worth it

[Anonymous No.22110723]

>>22110684
The series does slow down after Lord of Chaos but not as bad as most people say. TSR, FoH, and LoC are considered the best books in the series so anyone who told you they drop off after TSR was wildly incorrect.

[Anonymous No.22110789]

>>22110655
Nothing like them. Amber is pure garbage.

[Anonymous No.22110801]

>>22110655
Just like them. Amber is pure gold.

[Anonymous No.22110860]

I am obsessed with A study in emerald
I think it’s so fucking cool

[Anonymous No.22111054]

>be the most skilled game player out of your entire species
>become a god

[Anonymous No.22111057]

>be the most skilled game player out of your entire species
>get blackmailed and used as a pawn to bring down a primitive and less-advanced civilization whose entire culture revolves around a certain game

[Anonymous No.22111143]

>>22110436
lol Sell you on Gene Wole? Where are you from, boy!?!?

[Anonymous No.22111206]

>>22106352
How's between two fires?
I'm a booklet (never read a book unless I had to for school) and this one appears interesting as I like medieval-themed shit and horror

[Anonymous No.22111224]

>>22111057
That's a great cover, almost made me want to read it before I noticed the author.

[Anonymous No.22111259]

>>22111206
good it you are a booklet. Check it out then you can slowly move on to other things

[Anonymous No.22111277]

>>22111259
Alright thanks, will download it and buy the book if I end up liking it.

[Anonymous No.22111291]

What's the rating on the expanse series here? I've finished calibans war and I'm enjoying the universe and its hard scifi setting.

[Anonymous No.22111369]

>>22111291
I enjoyed it and wrote about each book. Maybe sometime I'll make more series overviews and them easily to find. For now you can look at the /sffg/ bookshelf for each book or look at the archive for opinions.

[Anonymous No.22111416]

>>22106624
Authors shouldn't get paid, copyright doesn't exist outside of a piece of paper.

[Anonymous No.22111422]

>GRRM on strike

[Anonymous No.22111464]

>>22110655
Only a little like those others but the first Amber series is one of my favorites

[Anonymous No.22111477]

>>22106340
Unless your writing is genuinely really good or you have a combination of interesting side elements, your plot sounds incredibly derivative and stale; I would not touch it with a ten foot pole.

Also, Rothfuss sucks.

[Anonymous No.22111479]

>>22106216
None of these people look like they should be writing, and at the very least, I would not want to read them.

[Anonymous No.22111484]

>>22107390
>What a ridiculous looking individual. Ah yes, I must pay money to read her creative writings. I’m sure they are not politically charged.

[Anonymous No.22111503]

>>22111416
Money shouldn't exist.

[Anonymous No.22111506]

>>22111503
Fiat money, yes. Gold is better.

[Anonymous No.22111510]

>>22111503
cartoon women owe me sex

[Anonymous No.22111520]

>>22111506
No medium of exchange should exist.

[Anonymous No.22111527]

>>22111520
Barter is annoying though, a store of value in necessary for a free market to easily function

[Anonymous No.22111578]

Im reading the black company and i swear ''Glittering stones'' is the most boring shit ever. That retard should have ended it at ''book of the south''.

[Anonymous No.22111769]

>>22111527
RuneScape was a better game before the Grand Exchange.

[Anonymous No.22111788]

>>22106216
The writer's strike may unironically allow Winds to be finished somewhat soon. If it didn't happen, I think Dunk and Egg would have postponed the book several years.

We are still never getting Dream of Spring though. Plus, I think George is going to say that after Winds, he will still need 2 more books to finish lol.

[Anonymous No.22111790]

>>22111769
I was always the weird kid that played eve online. I miss eve.

[Anonymous No.22111797]

I find it funny how sffg memes I made years ago pops up now and again in the general.

[Anonymous No.22111819]

>>22106295
>that one part where Erikson starts ranting against Ted Nugent
God that was funny.

[Anonymous No.22111822]

Anyone recall a old book about half-elf girl becoming dragon rider and fighting Dark Lord? I read it like fifteen years ago. It starts of with her living in a city that's all inside just one big tower. Her dad is a blacksmith. He gives her dagger/sword one day. Some new guy shows up and challenges her to a duel with the dagger as bet. He uses magic to win and the protagonists feels cheated, so she follows him to a forest and becomes student of a sorceress, who is also the guy's teacher. Then the Dark Lord attacks and everyone fuck off to like capital city, where the protagonists joins fighter academics or something.

[Anonymous No.22111833]

>>22106216
>Moredoor
>actually only has one real door
Wtaf Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien??

[Anonymous No.22111844]

>>22111833
one door is still moredoor than nulldoor

[Anonymous No.22111851]

>>22111844
Easily one of the top 10 best points ever made in sffg

[Anonymous No.22111897]

I just finished the first story in the Fifth head of Cerberus and it was really good. Probably the best bit of literature I have read since I was reading through some of the classics. Even if the next two stories are meh, this is still one of my favorite stories of all time.

Is Book of the New Sun truly better than this?

[Anonymous No.22111977]

>>22107390
Blacks are bigger LARPers than guys pretending to be norse pagans

[Anonymous No.22112030]

>>22111057
yeah that was a fantastic book

[Anonymous No.22112072]

Just finished Black Comapany, what am I reading next, sffgbros?

[Anonymous No.22112169]

>>22111206
if you like post-modernist turbo-grimdark wankery and gay priests, it'll be right up your alley

honestly you shouldn't reply to those ritualposts, they're spammed every single thread by a deranged psychotic who has self-lobotomized himself into nothing more than a biological chatbot

[Anonymous No.22112255]

>>22112169
>post-modernist
It isn't tho

[Anonymous No.22112424]

>>22112255
you're right, a real postmodernist would never condone the presence of the supernatural (let alone Christianity specifically being immanently true) even in fiction

[Anonymous No.22112441]

>>22112072
I just torrented the audiobook, but haven't started it yet. What am I in for? Could you give us a review or a rating?

[Anonymous No.22112715]

>>22112441
For the Black Company? 3/5, maybe 3.5/5. I nearly dropped it after a hundred pages, it’s writing style and pacing are fucking weird; there’s basically no descriptions and it jumps between scenes/locations in the same page, often without clear breaks, and there isn’t always a ton of action till the end. I still liked it and by the end I was glad to have read it. Felt very much like it’s merely the prologue of a good story, so I’ll probably read the other books soon.

[Anonymous No.22112769]

How would you make a weapon class in unreal? desu

[Anonymous No.22112778]

>>22112072
Strange Company

[Anonymous No.22112783]

Has anyone else read this? I just finished it and thought it was pretty good, will definitely finish out the rest of the series. I liked all the social/political maneuvering.

[Anonymous No.22112841]

>>22112783
Yeah, I read it well before it was released.

[33 of 40 (Currently Reading: Mark of the Fool) No.22112929]

Coiling Dragon by Wo Chi Xi Hong Shi

[The Story]

Born to the dying Baruch Clan on Yulan, Linley has distinguished himself as a prodigy from the age of 8. Old enough to be told of their Clan's hidden history, Linley learns that he shares blood with the legendary dragon-blooded warrior. After learning that he does not have enough of the blood to be a warrior, he decides to become a magus... and soon a legendary artifact, which provides a teacher in the spirit of a Saint Level Earth Magus named Doehring Cowart. It falls on Linley and his secret master to cultivate the power needed to reclaim his family's ancient heirloom sword and restore honor to his clan.

[The Character(s)]

Linley is the village head's eldest son and a descendant of a legendary warrior with EXCEPTIONAL elemental affinity and spiritual attunement. Upon discovering an ancient ring hidden in his estate and bonding with it through blood, he's able to conjure a 5,000 year old Saint-Level Magus who agrees to train him into a legendary Earth Magus. By the age of 10 he tries out for the Ernst Institute - the most famous Magus Academy on the continent - and learns that he has exceptional DUAL essence cultivation. Linley is not only able to bend earth to his will, but wind just as easily. With all that behind him, within his first year at the academy he is able to with 10,000 gold from an arrogant young master and establish himself as one of the top prodigies.

Doehring and Bebe are much simpler characters by comparison. Having escaped death by sequestering his soul inside of the Coiling Dragon Ring that Linley discovers, he emerges to a world vastly different from his own. Deciding to adopt Linley as a godson (as he's the only human who can see him), Doehring reveals that he is a 10th Level 'Saint' Cultivator of Earth Magic. What should've taken Linley 50 years to accomplish will now only take 10.

Linley's shadow beast Bebe is a small black mouse capable of minor teleportation. As he grows, he's able to shapeshift and become a terrifying monster capable of killing even 6th level cultivators with ease. He acts as Linley's protector and saves him when Linley's own overwhelming might won't do.

[The System]

The more one meditations and trains, the more their magical reserves and affinity grows though there's not a focus on this like in Reverend Insanity and ISSTH. The first book proposes ranks 1-9 with each being 'a world unto itself' before one achieves the level of SAINT and can easily bend the heavens and earth to their whims. Each cultivator can further diversify into an element: earth, wind, water, fire, lightning, darkness, and light but each elemental affinity will share the same techniques. All wind cultivators will know the same wind techniques, for instance.

Sainthood comes with understanding Profound Truths, though not explored heavily in the first book. This amps up a Saint's magic considerably and allows them to bond Saint-level spirit beasts.

[33 of 40 (Currently Reading: Mark of the Fool) No.22112935]

>>22112929
[Final Thoughts]

Dropped on chapter 45 of 77.

Another overpowered MC who's given the entire world served up on a platter within the first 20 chapters. When met with a challenge Linley breezes through it with almost no worry, but 5 chapters later we'll be told through another character how harrowing it must have been. Entire dialogue chunks are dedicated to worshipping Linley as the #1 genius and it all grows tiresome after a while. Obviously not my cup of tea, since I enjoy my characters struggling and surviving. I wish I had a bingo card so that I could convey the sheer amount of tropes checked off in the first 15 chapters alone.

Presentation of the system was also a struggle in this book. More than once, random cultivators would show up in the sky and fight to inspire the main character's growth. They would use a named technique the one time and the author would avoid describing the techniques in favor of using the name. Usually this is fine, but a technique should evolve... We're told that the 'earth tremor will evolve into the earth spike and then the heaven's earth upper super decker' and it's never visually demonstrated in a combat again.

Unengaging system, boring characters, and an uninspired world. No more overpowered MCs. Might curate my remaining list to make sure I avoid them.

>Lord of the Mysteries by Cuttlefish – 9/10
>Dungeon Crawler Carl Series by Matt Dinniman - 9/10
>Cradle Series by Will Wight - 8/10
>Worth the Candle by Alex Wales - 8/10
>Mother of Learning Series - 8/10
>Ave Xia Rem Y by Mat Haz - 8/10
>All The Skills by Honour Rae - 7/10
>Iron Prince by Bryce O'Connor and Luke Chmilenko - 7/10
>Chrysalis by RinoZ - 7/10
>Forge of Destiny by Yrsillar - 7/10
>A Thousand Li by Tao Wong - 7/10
>Retribution Engine by Akaso - 6/10
>Beware of Chicken by Casualfarmer – 6/10
>Wandering Inn by Pirateaba - 6/10
>Virtuous Sons by Ya Boy - 6/10
>Bastion by Phil Tucker - 6/10
>The Primal Hunter by Zogarth - 6/10
>Sufficiently Advanced Magic by Andrew Rowe - 6/10
>Heaven's Laws by Apollos Thorne - 6/10
>Battle Mage Farmer by Seth Ring - 5/10
>I Shall Seal The Heavens by Er Gen - 5/10
>Reverend Insanity by Gu Zhen Ren - 5/10
>Soulhome by Sarah Lin - 5/10
>Soulship by Nathan Thompson - 4/10
>Azarinth Healer by Rhaegar - 3/10
>Reincarnation: Threads by Michael Head - 3/10
>Paladin of the Sword by Marvin Knight - 2/10
>Portal to Nova Roma by JR Mathews - Dropped
>He Who Fights Monsters by Shirtaloon - Dropped
>Coiling Dragon by Wo Chi Xi Hong Shi - Dropped
>The Elevation Chronicles by Captain Capslock - Dropped
>Last Ship in Suzhou by Lungs - Dropped
>Defiance of the Fall by J.F. Brink - Dropped

>Still Reading (Cultivation)
19. The Human Emperor
20. Way of Choices

>Still Reading (LitRPG)
16. Mark of the Fool (Formerly: Perfect Run)
17. Re-Start
18. Infinite Realm
19. Dissonance
20. Fostering Faust (Formerly: Dungeon Diving 101)

>Currently Reading
The Human Emperor
>Currently Listening
Mark of the Fool

[Anonymous No.22112970]

>>22112935
>>22112929
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22112998]

>>22112935
>Another overpowered MC
welcome to chinklit
you can save yourself the trouble by avoiding any author with a name that sounds like a Panda Express menu item

[Anonymous No.22113032]

>>22112929
If you're talking about progression novels why the FUCK are you using the term 'system' to mean anything other than the litrpg thing?
If you're intentionally trying to confuse people then I'd criticise you for being too blatant.

[Anonymous No.22113052]

>>22112998
Pointer I wish I had when I began this endeavor.

>>22113032
Labeling it 'The System' may be too on the nose with the genres I'm working with here, fair point. Meant it more as a generalized term: 'cultivation system' or 'litrpg system'. Depending on what I'm reviewing I'll do [Cultivation] or [System] respectively, going forward.

[Anonymous No.22113059]

>>22112935
Mark of the Fool is an odd one for the list, given it's neither Cultivation nor LitRPG. I don't think it's bad, necessarily. I think it's just kinda fine.

[Anonymous No.22113064]

>>22113052
Those aren't the only two out there -- Mother of Learning is the obvious example, which is more freeform progression.
Might need an offensively neutral term like [Progression Mechanics].

[Anonymous No.22113068]

>>22113064
That'll come up with Mark of the Fool which is just straight progression fantasy as well, like >>22113059 points out. Neutral term will play better and I can specify therein. Appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.22113081]

>>22106216
i'm so very torn on Bakker's Second Apocalypse series. Its a real achievement, no question. They are huge books, reasonably well written (by the 3rd or 4th you stop noticing how many times things come swirling down), and the worldbuilding and magic are literally second to none in the grimdark genre, and top 5 in modern fantasy, no question.
that said, bakker is also a grade A edgelord who has designed his world to have every kind of violence possible for the sole purpose of being narratively shocking, and whatever you may think of the value of that, i think the SHOCKING preponderance of sexual violence is problematic bordering on unacceptable. i can't in good faith recommend the books to much of anyone any more, which is such a shame because i legitimately love the worldbuilding, and as i said, i think the magic and metaphysics of the books is AMAZING.
so i dunno. they're intense and gorgeous in a lot of ways. but if you drop into /sffg/ and find yoruself thinking you might want to read the series, just know what you're getting into. rape. lots of it. against literally EVERYTHING that can be raped. and it's not an artistic choice, it's a deadpan serious statement of the author's beliefs...

[Anonymous No.22113093]

>>22112169
>honestly you shouldn't reply to those ritualposts, they're spammed every single thread by a deranged psychotic who has self-lobotomized himself into nothing more than a biological chatbot

Reddit at its finest.

[Anonymous No.22113131]

>>22113052
[system] is still too general, because people use the term "magic system" to describe various fantasy novels all the time
you're probably better off specifying litrpg system when you mean that, if you read those

[Anonymous No.22113138]

Less than 2 days for CRADLE WAYBOUND

[Anonymous No.22113152]

I see Bakker's series is rooted in determinism which is the same philosophical ideology that incels align themselves with so I understand why it's a popular series here.

[Anonymous No.22113180]

>>22113152
2 or 3 religiously fixated spergs do not account for popularity in a thread with a hundred unique posters

[Anonymous No.22113188]

>>22113152
It must be your favorite series then.

[Anonymous No.22113208]

>>22113138
It isn't up yet but expect APOLOGIES soon.

[Anonymous No.22113257]

>>22113208
i dont get it

[Anonymous No.22113374]

>>22108127
This harlot is personally to blame for the decline and ruin of /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.22113412]

>>22113138
>>22113208
IT'S UP

[Anonymous No.22113426]

>>22113412
willbros... not like this...

[Anonymous No.22113512]

>>22113412
>>22113426
So his team fucked the ebook version somehow, fucking every pre-order and amazon released the book now 2 days earlier to make it up for it

nice, going to read it now, thanks Will

[Anonymous No.22113566]

>>22113512
I absolutely hate progression fantasy, but I can't imagine this is anything but an absolutely devastating mistake. Sucks to see.

[Anonymous No.22113571]

>>22113566
Cradle is too big to fall. He'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.22113615]

>>22106964
Niggers don’t even like fantasy why cater to them??

[Anonymous No.22113673]

>>22113615
its not about getting darkie money (they don't have any) it's about conditioning the people who spend money: women and the men they can browbeat through sexual capital

[Anonymous No.22113678]

[Anonymous No.22113688]

Lindon only says "apologies" 31 times in the final book!
Also here's the last page of the epilogue. Good night fags.

[Anonymous No.22113718]

>>22111057
Probably the only good culture novel.

[Anonymous No.22113721]

>>22113688
>literally just their names smashed together

[Anonymous No.22113771]

>>22112929
>>22112935
Forgot about Cradle. Going to give that a read and provide a review for the finale. Human Emperor and Mark of the Fool temporarily paused.

[Anonymous No.22113797]

>>22109642
After Star Wars was released, George Lucas received tons of letters begging him to make the force into a real religion. He could've definitely pulled it off.

[Anonymous No.22113818]

>>22113797
I find it difficult to believe LARPagans were quite as cringeworthy as that

[Anonymous No.22113858]

want to read my gothpunk garbage, the biggest inspos for this have been The King in Yellow, pretty much everything Poe & Lovecraft, the comic book Requiem Chevalier Vampire, and the Wizard of Oz


please do, i just get really loaded gonzo style and write until i passout


https://gaslightchronicles.com/

[Anonymous No.22113941]

>>22111897
New sun is different. More grand in scale. Better, yes I'd say. But I do love fifth head. Read The Wolfe Archipelago also

[Anonymous No.22113981]

>>22110412
Tolkien if it's possible you haven't read him
John Crowley
Jack Vance
Gene Wolfe
Robin Hobb
Le Guin
GRRM
R Scott Bakker
Robert E Howard

[Anonymous No.22114267]

>>22110412
>Dune
Red Rising and some 40k (Eisenhorn, Watchers of the Throne)

[Anonymous No.22114271]

>>22111822
I feel like I already read it several times without even touching it. Just write the premise in google, you will find several such books. Women get fucking wet when writing themselves with dragon companions, it's extremely prolific type of story. I get manly wet too when seeing dragons, desu

[Anonymous No.22114275]

>>22112998
>Raised by a pack of wild military jets
Fucking kek holy shit
I know it was a satirical meme but it still took me off guard, the funniest shit I've seen in a week

[Anonymous No.22114584]

>>22113721
Yeah how fuckin lazy can you get lol

[Anonymous No.22114622]

>>22111822
Sounds like Chronicles of the Overworld

[Anonymous No.22114663]

>>22107947
I feel like most of the sci-fi i read is a dystopia disguised as a utopia. Technology becoming better =/= people's life becoming better, its just more ways for people to be oppressed/brainwashed

[Anonymous No.22114675]

>fantasy series suddenly has trans/nb/gay characters in the later volumes and allegories for being in the closet
I just wanted to read about people fighting monsters...

[Anonymous No.22114686]

>>22114675
Sorry pal they couldn't get published at all unless they complete a line in LGBT bingo

[Anonymous No.22114694]

>>22114675
>reading sci-fi series
>Facist Slaver Space Empire is accepting of any sexuality, bisexuality is commonplace
>Ruler of said empire and her minions are black/African
>the slaves the protagonist is fighting for are homophobes that castrate those among them found gay

[Anonymous No.22114728]

>>22114694
but do the homophobes win

[Anonymous No.22114763]

>>22106216
>The 2007-2008 writers' strike lasted for 100 days.
I wonder how long this is gonna go on. Or if Hollywood will just go full ChatGPT already.

[Anonymous No.22114769]

>>22107303
Love me some black company, although I only read the books of the north and felt really satisfied with the "and our story goes on" ending and went to read something else. Most definitely gonna go back for the Book of the Souths though

[Anonymous No.22114861]

>>22107574
Holy shit, he looks so terrible. I didn't realize that was him.

[Anonymous No.22114876]

>>22107574
The later Black Company and Garrett PI books both put focus on the protagonists aging. You can tell Cook was thinking about how he'd been writing these series for decades by the time he wrapped them up.

[Anonymous No.22114877]

Any good fantasy books on the shorter side?
Preferably one volume and not beyond 500 pages or so

[Anonymous No.22114888]

>>22114763
Striking just months after a technology that can easily replace you becomes publicly available seems pretty stupid desu but I don't expect any better from hollywood writers

[Anonymous No.22114903]

>>22114877
anything by David Gemmel is pretty short, you can read Legend and be done with it or keep reading the other books if you have fun but theyre written as mostly standalones.

Same goes for The Black Company although it is a trilogy that I would recommend but the first book is only 300~ pages and ends exciting enouggh on its own

[Anonymous No.22114910]

>>22107977
>Also the female Marine constantly looks down on men for being attracted to her
If we go by the TV show looks, I'm sorry but I have a thing for amazons with an Aussie accent. Never read the books because I wasn't sure they would enhance the experience.

[Anonymous No.22114949]

>>22114622
Yes, it's. More specific the first book, Nihal of the Land of the Wind ( I guess the title sounds better in original language). Thanks a lot. You know, I didn't even like that book, I stopped reading around 2/3 of it because I couldn't stand how much of Mary Sue the main hero was, but some time ago I randomly recalled it and it has been bothering me that I can't remember the name of it. Now I know.

[Anonymous No.22115067]

Is there a novel like Madoka Magica

[Anonymous No.22115076]

>>22114877
EARTHSEA
WHY NO ONE HERE READS EARTHSEA

[Anonymous No.22115081]

>>22115067
>Is there a novel like Madoka Magica
As in, theme-wise, character-wise, aesthetic-wise, setting-wise, what? Or do you literally just want madoka magica but written down?

[Anonymous No.22115092]

>>22115081
Setting wise, like that movie Hereditary if you will. Where a character is tricked with a contract that seems good at first but turns into hofrour beyond your dreams.

[Anonymous No.22115106]

>>22115092
Faust.

[Anonymous No.22115107]

I am currently reading Super Dimensional wizard/ Warlock Apprentice
it was pretty good for the first 450 chapters but now it turned into some nonsensical ya drama, every character is dumb, other wizards are just getting worse and more retarded, the purification garden arc was absolute garbage, thinking of dropping it, also it seems it stopped being translated after 1000 chapters, I see no point in reading it any further.

[Anonymous No.22115108]

I have procured Aragorn's copy of The Book of Three.

[Anonymous No.22115118]

>>22115108
>stealing from a black man
How the tables turn

[Anonymous No.22115121]

>>22115107
>it was pretty good for the first 450 chapters but now it turned into some nonsensical ya drama,
you just described all chinklit, move on to something else now that it peaked

[Anonymous No.22115147]

>>22115107
Just read LOTM and forget other chinkshit even exists

[Anonymous No.22115160]

>>22115107
Yeah the garden arc was the worst one. It's also more of a slice of life the longer it goes because you get used to the world which is what I personally like. Just drop it and check out something else, it's better than getting to the end and realizing the translation stops at the middle of an arc

[Anonymous No.22115179]

>>22109331
Too old

[Anonymous No.22115216]

>>22115107
>for the first 450 chapters

[Anonymous No.22115228]

Finished this yesterday, pretty kino. The main guy's hero's journey was refreshingly different and his development felt very real to me. I really loved the main girl's story as she tries to figure out the mystery of her royal blood. The ending even wraps things up. There's another book which I'll read soon, but it would be fine if there wasn't.

[Anonymous No.22115229]

>>22110357
>I believe books will get more and more outrageous, similar to >>22109845.
Nah man. That one is obviously and blatently fetish shit. Which is at least frank about what it is. The Aragorn thing is someone who somehow deluded themselves into thinking their justification is something deep when an honest reflection would find it lacking any real meaning or aplicability.

[Anonymous No.22115264]

>>22115160
>It's also more of a slice of life the longer it goes because you get used to the world which is what I personally like. Just drop it and check out something else
I see.. Do you have any recommendations? something that is not slice of life?

[Anonymous No.22115416]

Now that Cradle is finished what are some novels that can scratch that same itch? No generic chink or system litrpg shit please.

[Anonymous No.22115437]

>>22115216
its chinklit, one chapter is like 2-3 pages of text at most.

[Anonymous No.22115440]

>>22115416
but cradle is generic chink shit just written by a westerner

[Anonymous No.22115444]

>>22115416
is the ending good? I read the first book but then the power level jump turned me off a bit because it felt like those issekai novels where mc has an interesting skill set until he just becomes SSS rank

[Anonymous No.22115474]

>>22115444
>I read the first book but then the power level jump turned me off a bit because it felt like those issekai novels where mc has an interesting skill set until he just becomes SSS rank

But he doesnt get any power in book 1?

[Anonymous No.22115487]

>>22115416
>>>reddit

[Anonymous No.22115538]

Since we're talking about litrpg, are there any books about villain protags that have the same feel as the Overlord games? It doesn't have to be a litrpg book but that's just the genre I figured would be most likely to have one. I loved those games in highschool and since there will never be another one I'll take any book that fills the void.

[Anonymous No.22115549]

>>22115474
I meant I read the first book and then when I got to second suddenly everyone was gold at minimum. And I thougnt they were going to speedrun powerlevels so I didnt bother to keep reading. I could be wrong though, just what usually happens

[Anonymous No.22115552]

>>22115264
Way of Choices is pretty much the best chinese web novel I've read. Not really sure how to classify if though, there's cultivation but it's not really the focus, instead great characters and their relationships and political intrigue takes the forefront

[Anonymous No.22115577]

>>22115416
lotm

[Anonymous No.22115580]

>>22115552
Is there romance? I looked at the reviews and they mentioned male and female lead? Huge red flag desu

[Anonymous No.22115602]

>>22115580
Kind of? It's extremely light and kind of cute, I think they hold hands at some point but that's pretty much as far it goes

[Anonymous No.22115612]

>>22114888
might as well do it while the tech sucks

[Anonymous No.22115635]

>>22115549
>suddenly everyone was gold at minimum. And I thougnt they were going to speedrun powerlevels so I didnt bother to keep reading.

They make it very clear that Sacred Valley is obscure and that the average cultivator outside is Gold, hell they even talk about it some rich babys getting gold after birth bc the rich parents could afford pills and treasures, while in Sacred Valley the peak was Jade bc of speecial conditions, and that was rare for them

For example: Black Flame empire (The place Lindon goes to next) has 15-20 Underlords and only 1 Overlord (The King/Emperor)

Gold is basically cannon fodder, the protag and team were still Underlord till book 7

[Anonymous No.22115824]

The mobilism link for Waybound seems broken, anyone have an alternative download link?

[Anonymous No.22115927]

>>22115824
it's working fine

[Anonymous No.22116036]

>>22115927
Why don't pirates use mega and rapidshare anymore? They always use these malware ridden AIDS sites instead now

[Anonymous No.22116056]

>>22116036
Not that anon, but I use jdownloader to bypass all those problems. As for mega, there are sites that still do, I use one a lot.

[Anonymous No.22116114]

>>22116036
never had problem with mobilism

[Anonymous No.22116372]

>>22109582
how the blast you know about this book man-animal?

[Anonymous No.22116376]

>>22115228
Greg Keyes has been on my tbr ever since i've read his Star wars NJO books. There's a lot of underrated writers in the late 90s and early 2000s. Pretty much no one talks about fantasy from that time.

[Anonymous No.22116450]

>>22116376
His stuff is fuckin' great. Some of the best books I've read this year. I even bought his new book just based off of my impression after finishing Kingdom of Thorn and Bone.

[Anonymous No.22116453]

>>22109830
>2015 to 2023
In the interim he sold gajillions of books and they still downgrade him like this. Shame.

[Anonymous No.22116620]

>>22115549
Every book is 1 power level advancement desu

[Anonymous No.22116646]

I hated Bai Ning Bing before his death but afterwards her reactions to Fang Yuan are the funniest thing in RI

[Anonymous No.22116720]

>>22111897
New Sun is better in my opinion but it’s hard to compare the two because they’re such different stories. Even Short Sun, which has a similar premise (colonising a blue and a green planet inhabited by shape-shifting indigenes), is only really similar in writing style.

[Anonymous No.22116766]

>>22116646
Lang Ya land spirit was the funniest thing in RI, also in the beginning Gu Yue elders had few funny moments

[Anonymous No.22116936]

[Anonymous No.22116985]

>>22113941
I will look into it. Thanks.
>>22116720
Do you think it is better just because it fits your tastes better, because it accomplishes more due to being grander in scope, or because its quality is just better? Or some mix?

[Anonymous No.22117071]

>cultivation novel
>the main character doesn't reach the final rank
>his lackeys do
hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.22117080]

Make new thread already

[Anonymous No.22117090]

>>22117080
no

[Anonymous No.22117116]

>>22117071
Cradle?

[Anonymous No.22117177]

>>22117116
Yes.

[Anonymous No.22117204]

>>22117080
Wait until page 12.

[Anonymous No.22117245]

>>22112783
Loved it. Which is odd, cause I hated his first series.

[Anonymous No.22117257]

>>22117071
>>22117177
Lindon did an alternate and stronger path. He could probably beat all his "lackeys" at once.