/Middle Earth General/

[Anonymous No.22093442]

I've been reading The Silmarillion lately, and it's beyond phenomenal. The Hobbit and LoTr were the first books (other than picture books and comics) that I read, and I decided recently to revisit Tolkien's world.
What are your thoughts on Tolkien and his works? Also, post recommendations for Tolkiencels.

[Anonymous No.22093672]

>have never read Tolkien
>read 6 Jim Butcher books instead

[Anonymous No.22093964]

>>22093672
Why do you hate yourself?

[Anonymous No.22094422]

>>22093964
No pussy = no hobbits.
Will read it this year, though. Definitely

[Anonymous No.22094432]

[Anonymous No.22094953]

>>22093442
I loved the Silmarilion, although I have some small gripes on the editing department.
You should read the other books, such as Unfinished Tales and the Three Tales.

[Anonymous No.22095432]

>>22093442
A reddit comment unironically put it best: there just isn't any tension, ever, in the story. Any time any character seems in even the slightest bit of danger, a deus ex machina immediately bails them out.

[Anonymous No.22095542]

>>22093442
silmarillion is great desu. i haven't yet read unfinishned tales, the history of middle earth, beren and luthien or the children of hurin. i do have read tolkien's other work like sir gawain and the green knight

[Anonymous No.22095562]

>>22095432
>no tension
what about the slow boiling jealousy of feanor when he created the stones? the two trees being cut by morgoth and ungoliant? the battle of unnumbered tears? the slow descent of nienor into madness?
>deus ex machina
where was the deus ex machina when feanor was killed by balrogs? when fingolfin was fighting morgoth? when turin did literally anything?
it's a tragic retelling of elvish mythology, and tolkien accomplished in giving us a story from the elvish POV, compared to the hobbit and the LOTR which are from human/hobbit POV

[Anonymous No.22095604]

>>22095562
>the slow boiling jealousy of feanor when he created the stones?
Not really any tension and not from the main villains.
>the two trees being cut by morgoth and ungoliant?
Then them cowardly running away from the Valar?
>the battle of unnumbered tears?
Eh, only won because of treachery. Also includes morgoth cowering in fear for some reason.
>when feanor was killed by balrogs?
Didn't he explode in anger and they couldn't kill him?
>when fingolfin was fighting morgoth?
Gone once he started inexplicably beating the everloving shit out of morgoth.
>compared to the hobbit and the LOTR which are from human/hobbit POV
It's a problem across all of tolkien's books.

[Anonymous No.22096378]

>>22095604
i dunno bro you seem to be trying too hard to not like it, it's ok though, lots of people enjoy its writing. nobody here is claiming it's anything more than genre fiction

[Anonymous No.22096385]

>>22095604
You realise you didn't really refute any of the points?

[Anonymous No.22096482]

>>22093442
Reading through the Silmarillion as well, it is pleasant enough but nothing spectacular
What do you find so awesome in this anon

[Anonymous No.22096583]

I really wish this lazy bloke had finished his projects, instead of simply abandoning them.

[Anonymous No.22096627]

>>22096583
Oy m8! Do you have a loicence to post that copyrighted image?

[Anonymous No.22096628]

>>22095432
It's not a novel though. It was never meant to have tension or a narrative in the way that the Hobbit or LOTR did. It was just an outlining of his own mythology. If you take it for what it is it's a good read(assuming you have an interest in that mythology)

[Anonymous No.22096925]

>>22096482
For one, the writing is of a very old and authentic nature - similar to that of many epics throughout history, including The Bible. Though, as someone with an English/Literature major, I am a bit of a sucker for such prose as this. As well as the many iconic tropes of classic fairy tale stories, and Nordic mythology.

You've also got to be quite a LoTr nerd to really appreciate the piece, as someone who grew up reading the books and watching the movies I am excited and enthused to learn about the world that captured my childlike wonder and fed my imagination for so many years.

[Anonymous No.22097049]

bible is a incomplete manuscript named "My interpretation of the Universe" written by a very autistic and esoteric anon who lived in ancient time.

[Anonymous No.22098368]

This was a pretty epic scene

[Anonymous No.22098473]

LOTR is the best book I’ve ever read, and I’ve started to feel a little jealous of the lifelong philologist and soldier whose whole life in the end added up to this magnum opus.

[Anonymous No.22098866]

>>22095432
But that could be because you’ve seen the movies…

[Anonymous No.22099014]

I like to imagine a Hobbit Alex Jones who sells fuckin’ foot toupees or something because hairy feet are a sign of vitality for hobbits.

[Anonymous No.22099022]

>>22099014

[Anonymous No.22099047]

Oh man this world is amazing, I can't wait to learn more about the lore and about the elves and Gandalf as Frodo and the hobbits adventu-
>HEY DOL MERRY DOL RING A DONG DILLO
>RING A DONG HOP ALONG FAL LAL THE WILLOW
>TOM BOM JOLLY TOM TOM BOMBADILLO
Well, ok that was a bit odd but necessary for the plot to advance, let's see what the next chapter has in store
>HO TOM BOMBADIL TOM BOMBADILLO BY WATER WOOD AND HILL BY THE REED AND WILLOW
Ok that's over with finally the story can resume as norm-
>OLD TOM BOMBADIL IS A MERRY FELLOW BRIGHT BLUE HIS JACKET IS
>AND HIS BOOTS ARE YELLOW

[Anonymous No.22099227]

>>22099047
if you don't enjoy tolkien's whimsical poetry, you don't deserve his grandiose prose

[Anonymous No.22099288]

>>22099047
tom bombadil is how we weed out the faggots

[Anonymous No.22099813]

>>22099047
filtered.

[Anonymous No.22099885]

>>22096583
Imagine have that many editions of the same book. Fucking incel Otaku.

[Anonymous No.22099935]

>>22099885
OK, I imagined. Now what?