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While I understand the hatred for this man and his pimple-faced, mawkish yarns, there is a not insignificant part of me that sees itself compelled to pay him a fair amount of respect: he limited himself to a single genre, perfected all the tired tropes of that genre, ergo knows exactly what his audience wants to hear and goes so far as to shape his public personality around these expectations - and profits and profits and profits while we sit at home and post on 4chan on Sunday.

>> No.22089738

it...it's monday dude

>> No.22089743

>>22089738
Fuck it is. I've been on here too long

>> No.22089746

>>22089722
I see it as a sad clown begging the audience for scraps. The crowd ands for him take take another pie to the face and he obliges happy for their brief acknowledgment

>> No.22089764

>>22089746
A sad clown sitting on mountains of cash with the leisure to write decent and real literature if he had the desire or capability. It's such a waste

>> No.22089798

>>22089746
>>22089764
Royalties make you complacent, even lazy. People on royalties are not spurred to make anything good (or at least new).

>> No.22089828

>>22089722
Where are his pimples?

>> No.22089847

>>22089828
He scooped the cystic ones out and ate them, enjoying each one with consummately equal pleasure, and it was not so much the taste that he savored, but rather knowing that he treated each one fairly.

>> No.22090339

He and his brother are really just good at marketing and seizing opportunity. His first novel was really only moderately successful. He was able to get the sales necessary for broader recognition because of the audience he garnered with Brotherhood 2.0 on YouTube. His brother ended up doing the same thing with SciShow, they started VidCon right on the upswing of influencer content, etc. He got a movie deal because of his popularity online. He didn't generate an audience with his writing.

>> No.22090376

>>22089722
i hope hank gets better soon :(

>> No.22090383

>Me: “I refuse to attend Support Group.”
>Mom: “One of the symptoms of depression is disinterest in activities.”
>Me: “Please just let me watch America’s Next Top Model. It’s an activity.”
>Mom: “Television is a passivity.”
>Me: “Ugh, Mom, please.”
>Mom: “Hazel, you’re a teenager. You’re not a little kid anymore. You need to make friends, get out of the house, and live your life.”
>Me: “If you want me to be a teenager, don’t send me to Support Group. Buy me a fake ID so I can go to clubs, drink vodka, and take
pot.”
>Mom: “You don’t take pot, for starters.”
>Me: “See, that’s the kind of thing I’d know if you got me a fake ID.”
>Mom: “You’re going to Support Group.”
>Me: “UGGGGGGGGGGGGG.”
>Mom: “Hazel, you deserve a life.”
jesus fucking christ. i can't believe writing this bad could get past any editor alive.

>> No.22090388

>>22090383
what gets me the most is the complete fucking audacity to attach this trainwreck to shakespeare. i know that he doesn't really hold any allure for his skill in writing as much as he is a generic Literary Figure available for reference (and one, conveniently, with which everyone is familiar), but holy fucking shit.

>> No.22090391

The Galt in Our Hearts by Ayn Rand

>> No.22090393

basedboy

>> No.22090420

>>22090339
This explains alot

>> No.22090456

>>22090383
Yes, it's obviously shit, but it's shit that is, considering the constraints of the genre, well-written. This is point of the original post: it is, by any thinkable objective measure of writerly ability, nothing but the inert and sour word smegma of a below average poetaster - but for that very reason, a paragon of excellence for the genre which he has claimed and mastered. Hence the sort of perverse respect he deserves.

>> No.22091101

>>22089722
I liked crash course stuff. Come at me midwit haters

>> No.22091195

>>22091101
Nothing says patrician like the videos my history teacher would put on in sophomore AP history

>> No.22091220

>>22089722
idgaf about what anyone says, as they should not give a fuck about what i will say. This man is a legend. he started a small internet phenomenon by simply talking to his brother on camera, made a career out of it, and got many teens interested in reading in the process. all respect is due to John Green.

>> No.22091230

>>22089743
man u right. this my first day but im gonna get off here tn. kinda sucks ngl

>> No.22091688

>>22089722
Does he do all the videos on YouTube that are like high level overwiews of things we learned in high school but forgot? I think that guy is pretty chill. Not everything published needs to be profound. Sometimes you just need a little something to jog your nog.

>> No.22091797

>>22090383
I had to read this and pretend to like it in high school because my gf at the time was a childhood leukemia survivor. Even then, I knew it was bad.

>> No.22092492

>>22090383
his worst book
the one about waffle house was much better

>> No.22092565
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>>22090376
I suppose so. These people are undoubtedly a net negative on the world spreading poisonous progressive nonsense. Still they don’t deserves to die of cancer.

>> No.22092567
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>>22091101
It’s shit for 95 IQ blue hairs to pretend they understand history. Part of larger problem with people thinking they can meaningfully learn history through infotainment.

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>>22090383
I might be unironically autistic. Can someone explain to me what's bad with this dialogue? Like, specficially. A teenager isn't going to talk prose-like

>> No.22092639

>>22092571
Nothing wrong with it for the genre. They're pseuds.

>> No.22092642

>>22092571
Nothing. It seems to be written from the teen's pov so any faults can be attributed to that. its not too dissimilar from the Wardine section in IJ.

>> No.22092855

>>22092567
>video series called Crash Course doesn't offer any substantial knowledge. Let that sink in while I wait for your updoots.
Wow dude, that perspective has totally opened my mind, prolapsed it even. Thank all the gods we have such exceptional free thinkers on 4chan.

>> No.22093336

>>22092855
>thanks thought bubble

>> No.22093762

>>22092642
>its not too dissimilar from the Wardine section in IJ
i can't believe what i've just read.

>> No.22093901

>>22093762
You know it's true