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Can Schopenhauer be called an Idealist? I don't think so, because he doesn't dive into transcendental worlds like the other German idealists, but there is still some doubt. If someone can enlighten me, I will be very grateful.

>> No.22077774

He saw idealism, specifically Hegel's as an intellectual construct which disregarded the suffering of human existence.

>> No.22077846

You're incoherent.
>transcendental worlds
Idk what you're saying. Schop thought the thing-in-itself (or the nearest we can know about it) was Wille. His whole system is based on his reduced Kantian aesthetic (time, space, and causation are pure intuitions). Obviously he's an idealist.

>> No.22077894

>Obviously he's an idealist
Blatantly wrong.

He is a pessimistic metaphysical and moral philosopher. His ideas departed from Kant's. His concept of the "will" contrasts with the idealist notion of a transcendent, unified consciousness or mind that shapes reality, because the "will" is an irrational and blind force underlying all phenomena.

If he truly was an idealist, he wouldn't be so pessimistic because he could think himself into happiness. As a matter of fact, he embraced suffering and futility because it renounces desires (which are idealistic).

>> No.22078108

The world/matter is fundamentally will (that is, consciousness) and its (ideal) representation.

How is this not fucking idealist? Are you retarded, sir?

>Some traditions in Western esotericism and parapsychology interested Schopenhauer and influenced his philosophical theories. He praised animal magnetism as evidence for the reality of magic in his On the Will in Nature, and went so far as to accept the division of magic into left-hand and right-hand magic, although he doubted the existence of demons.
>Schopenhauer grounded magic in the Will and claimed all forms of magical transformation depended on the human Will, not on ritual. This theory notably parallels Aleister Crowley's system of magic and its emphasis on human will. Given the importance of the Will to Schopenhauer's overarching system, this amounts to "suggesting his whole philosophical system had magical powers." Schopenhauer rejected the theory of disenchantment and claimed philosophy should synthesize itself with magic, which he believed amount to "practical metaphysics."
>Neoplatonism, including the traditions of Plotinus and to a lesser extent Marsilio Ficino, has also been cited as an influence on Schopenhauer.

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