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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Sat May 20 00:24:10 2023 No.22052164 [Reply] [Original]

/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:25:58 2023 No.22052176 File: 653 KB, 1694x2560, 91UDzcPH-nL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why don't they just put wheels on them bridges?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:26:06 2023 No.22052177 >>22052164 Fuck bakker Fuck chinkshit Fuck litrpgs

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:30:58 2023 No.22052197 >>22052177 All the things you don't fuck are really telling, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:32:26 2023 No.22052203 >>22052197 Fuck anon's mom Happy now?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:32:54 2023 No.22052204 >>22052176 Speed. Read the book shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:34:23 2023 No.22052210 >>22052176 Because Sadeas is a cruel man who wishes to punish others. You're being regulated to bridge four for your stupid question.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:37:24 2023 No.22052223 >>22052210 >regulated And you're being RELEGATED too for your poor language skills.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:40:09 2023 No.22052234 File: 848 KB, 1000x506, Does this look like teh same guy to you.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why does this look like another author making smurf accounts (pennames) or is it someone copying him?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:45:21 2023 No.22052260 >>22052223 I just learned English last year.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:45:59 2023 No.22052264 >>22052234 I thought this was AI generated

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:46:16 2023 No.22052266 >>22052260 No one said ESLs can't be bridgemen.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:50:08 2023 No.22052276 File: 614 KB, 1080x1980, sh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this SOTT book is filtering me boyos.. 100 pages of talking to some dude about old books in a library? how is this sci fi

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 00:55:03 2023 No.22052289 >>22052266 German law doesn't work that way.

None !SFFG.n1h7M Sat May 20 00:59:05 2023 No.22052310
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>>22052164
Terms of Enlistment, Frontlines #1 - Marko Kloos (2013)

This was the debut novel of German author Marko Kloos, who after serving his mandatory military service came to the United States. Ten years later he self-published this military science fiction novel on Amazon and it sold well, so it was acquired by Amazon.

The protagonist, Andrew Grayson, 21, lives in a welfare housing district and will do anything to escape the shame of poverty. For him and most others, the military is their only chance, but with a 10% application acceptance rate and 50% washing-out before finishing basic training, it's not that easy. Homesteading a colonial planet is the dream, or really, anywhere other than being stuck with those he describes as the welfare rats who are content to subsist on recycled bodily waste and mutual violation. The narrative is told through a first person perspective that provides his personal thoughts, though they didn't add much for me.

Some books offer more of an opportunity for contemplation and others offer the opposite. This was one of the latter. You can think about it, though that may only detract from the enjoyment. That's not to say that it's entirely action filled, because it isn't. Much of the book's duration is spent outside out of duty, which also isn't to say that this is a book heavy on character development, because it isn't. The plot is mostly going through basic training and a few months afterwards. The ending sets up the series, which is currently at eight books. Saying what the series is about awkward because looking at anything else about it makes it obvious, but since it isn't revealed until the end, just saying what it is would be a spoiler, though it's nothing surprising. It's First contact and immediate war against huge aliens. Functionally that makes this first book an introduction to the protagonist and the processes of their military and little else.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention that one of the major scenes of the novel could be a dealbreaker. The military is sent in to deal with unrest in the Detroit slums which leads to the protagonist slaughtering those involved and then some uninvolved civilians during the ensuring chaos. It doesn't go well for them either. This is mostly brushed off later and treated as just something that happened by all involved. Apparently it's covered more in Measures of Absolution.

I read this with others, as I probably wouldn't have read it by myself. I've now read the first books of Kloos's two series, the other being The Palladium Wars. I found the other to be significantly better. Unfortunately, what bothered me the most about it was present here as well. The series is sliced too thinly. That's been commercially successful for Kloos. It's common for TV series to have most of the plot in the premiere and finale, but I don't like how it came across here. This may be the last work by him that I read.

Rating: 2.5/5

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 01:14:17 2023 No.22052347 >>22052310 I liked this book but by the third the series becomes unreadable drek.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 01:20:21 2023 No.22052369 >>22052347 I didn't think I would be missing out on anything. I appreciate the confirmation.

Anonymous Sat May 20 01:28:38 2023 No.22052389

>>22052369
In like the second book he's riding up a space elevator or something looking down on the people below and thinking (after having slaughtered a whole city of people) if all these shitty people died I wouldn't give one single fuck. By the end of the third book, he joins up with fem shep and a gay russian in a rebellion against the evil earth government because he CARES about the little guy and those evil anti-union scumbags dont. But my favorite part of the story is his girlfriend doesn't even get a first name until the third book and then the author lampshades it by saying she never liked it so he doesn't call her by that. The protagonist was clearly a sociopath until the author decided he had too many evil nazee fans (see the sad puppies incident) and decided to take a severe turn to stay in the good graces of the greater scifi literary groupthink.

Anonymous Sat May 20 01:29:40 2023 No.22052392
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I listened to the audiobook of David Gemmell's "Legend" recently after Dan Davis recommended another book in that series. I'm rather fond of Davis' work so I thought I would try out Gemmell.

In short, it is very unremarkable. The narrative is perfectly competent but is extremely safe and takes no risks whatsoever. It is paced really fast which I appreciate. It does not waste the reader's time with world building (very few authors are creative enough to make a world worth sharing). There are a few silly contrived scenes, but that's expected with any story. Unfortunately it has almost no real poetry in the writing. It's simply unremarkable fantasy. Nothing about the book makes it stand out in any way to anything else I've read. I hardly remember the characters' names, because who cares?

It's a story with a beginning, middle, and end. There is almost no interesting prose or poetry (I can only remember one single line that actually had some soul, and it stuck out because everything else was so trite). The urgency of the plot and the pace of the writing means I as a reader never really felt like I spent any time with the characters. The author tries to include some backstory but it's usually way after the character is introduced and because the plot is so urgent given that it's about a siege that it's just very distracting.

Overall the novel doesn't do anything "wrong" and it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, and it's not even really "boring" as I felt compelled to finish it, because at least it didn't waste my time by meandering away from the plot. There are no interesting colors, no poetic soul in the writing, no time wasted on world building, it has a fast paced story, but the emotions/themes/moral lessons are just very dull and played out.

Overall I wouldn't recommend it unless you just want some noise in the background.

Anonymous Sat May 20 01:38:30 2023 No.22052406

>>22052389
Huh, I didn't expect it to double like that on the slaughtering. I've read a few other series where the author doesn't like their reader response at all and then does that opposite and tends to overcorrect.

Yeah, the puppies slated him and he refused, which pleased GRRM enough to take him into his group of authors to write in his shared universe and bandy about with them. That's one way to neutralize anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 01:42:09 2023 No.22052419 >>22052392 What else would you expect from heroic fantasy?

Anonymous Sat May 20 02:21:21 2023 No.22052498
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>>22052392
I love Gemmell but I understand the dislike of his first book. It is flawed but you have to understand its importance to heroic fantasy, all of its cliches and dated themes were refreshing.
Check out his Jeruselum Man books. Those are my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 02:35:39 2023 No.22052533 >>22052276 He literally lives in a rocket ship.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 02:38:57 2023 No.22052540 File: 839 KB, 1800x2775, 56229688.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I saw this while browsing a bookstore and I want to ask if it's worth the time investment

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 02:43:40 2023 No.22052555 >>22052540 >Hooded dude with a sword cover Like 80% chance it's not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 02:58:27 2023 No.22052593 >>22052310 your """reviews""" are SHIT FUCK OFF

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 03:09:16 2023 No.22052617 >>22052176 sadeas is sadistic (omg his name! bravo sando!)- he's the only one who uses the portable bridges, and he's the best gemhart gather cause the portable bridges are faster

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 03:20:15 2023 No.22052644 File: 215 KB, 727x1073, 1628093637081.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any fantasy/sci fi books like The Promised Neverland but not gay and Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 03:49:03 2023 No.22052716 >>22052392 I gave up on it around "I'm not a fooool"

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 03:51:45 2023 No.22052726 >>22052392 agreed most overrated fantasy book i've ever read the plot is literally just mongols attacking a walled fortress and some old guy fights them off and dies doing it i didn't find druss's character interesting in any way

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 04:18:30 2023 No.22052797 why is military sci fi always so cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 04:35:58 2023 No.22052838 File: 218 KB, 1818x1136, 275233335_5211688598890229_8757428268953878679_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Serwe burning in hell?

Anonymous Sat May 20 05:34:40 2023 No.22052947
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>>22052164
Give books for the aesthetic in OPs pic pls. Also read the Tower of Babel series for a gigacomfy mix of great world building, outstanding prose and deep characters

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 05:50:10 2023 No.22052964 >>22052838 Premarital sex

Anonymous Sat May 20 07:21:37 2023 No.22053119
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Hey guys I'm looking for stories of fantasy settings going into space. I know of Spelljammer there were apparently some novels back in the day but I'm looking for recs. I'd like seeing fantasy settings overcoming the various difficulties of space travel.

Anonymous Sat May 20 08:21:21 2023 No.22053237
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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

Anonymous Sat May 20 08:23:02 2023 No.22053243
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/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fight with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 08:31:58 2023 No.22053262 >>22053243 Someone make another /litrpg/ Captcha: YA TKYN

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:02:18 2023 No.22053312 >>22053262 i will still post about litrpg here dilate

Anonymous Sat May 20 09:05:19 2023 No.22053315
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>SEVEN (7) female pov chapters in a row
>two hundred and fifty-six straight minutes of female pov, nearly 5 hours
>42,000 straight words of female pov
this should be a criminal offense with a mandatory prison sentence

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:09:01 2023 No.22053320 >>22053312 >>22053262 >>22053243 >>22053237 Kill Yourself

Anonymous Sat May 20 09:13:17 2023 No.22053327

>>22052176
You can't just slap some wagon wheels onto something and expect it to be able to cross rocky uneven terrain. Building something large and heavy-duty enough to actually traverse said terrain is possible results in them being much slower and prone to breakage, as is described in the book.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:17:52 2023 No.22053336 >>22053320 Wow you just told those posters to kill themselves, you're such a badass. Can I get a (You)?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:29:27 2023 No.22053351 >>22052204 >>22052210 >>22052617 >>22053327 >serious replies to my obvious funpost Anons...

Anonymous Sat May 20 09:29:48 2023 No.22053352
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>>22053237
>I Shall Seal the Heavens
I finally decided to give ISSTH a shot this past month, and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. It feels kind of lackluster all around, where the majority of interactions are either meng hao uses some secret impossible art that everybody is completely flabbergasted by or does something very slightly unconventional that causes everyone present to cough up blood out of shock or he straight up pulls some bullshit out of his ass and happens to win the fortuitous encounter lottery for the 500th time

I've read a decent amount of cultivation chinkshit and I don't really understand why ISSTH enjoys the popularity that it does. The mcdonalds review remains the only good thing that came out of it, if you ask me.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:33:39 2023 No.22053362 >>22053352 ISSTH is great for fun adventures in cool locations, meng hao's brazen greed reaching greater and greater heights, and meng hao forming yet another comfy father-son relationship with an old master

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:42:23 2023 No.22053377 chinkfic is the apex of goyslop

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:47:12 2023 No.22053382 >>22052947 Bancroft's next series in September, earlier than I thought it would be

Anonymous Sat May 20 09:49:06 2023 No.22053383
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>>22053377
I wonder if there are people over in china who read western fiction and argue with each other on internet forums about what is good and what counts as "gweiloslop"

Anonymous Sat May 20 10:04:58 2023 No.22053406

>>22053352
I tried it as well, it's pretty obvious if you have experience in chinkshit that its major positive quality is being average. Most of chinkshit is awful, boring or repetetive in the worst way. ISSTH is simplky competent enough to not be bad, and that alone elevates it above the sea of chinkshit shits. Only Reverent Insanity has actual original quality to it, despite being fucking boring most of the time.

Anonymous Sat May 20 10:06:12 2023 No.22053409

>>22053383
I'm quite sure niche fantasy discussion in china have 10x the amount of users compared to anything western. They are simply that big, population wise. Imagine whta % needs to be into fantasy, then which % capable of reading english. It's still more than west.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:12:33 2023 No.22053422 >>22052164 this pic reminds me of Stephenson's Diamond Age - which I started but never finished. how is it? I loved Anathem, Snow Crash was alright, and I dropped Seveneves half-way through.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:26:20 2023 No.22053447 >>22053422 Diamond Age is my favorite Stephenson book but also has the section I hate the most (the underwater cult), take that as you will.

Anonymous Sat May 20 11:02:02 2023 No.22053519
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So Rothfuss is re-releasing a novella because his editor said 'no' to him releasing the first chapter of DoS?

In the blog post/video he talks about
> editor having your back
> editor making decisions on what he can release and when

He said
> You are better than what I deserve (talking to his fans).

He pointedly did not bring up the chapter, and I think he only mentioned DoS once in the blog.

Why would an editor care if he posted the first chapter/ not want him to follow through on his promises?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:13:43 2023 No.22053542 Tony Ballantyne's Twisted Metal and Blood and Iron. Neat stuff. Anyone read those?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:17:20 2023 No.22053554 >>22053519 Why is such a faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:23:20 2023 No.22053565 File: 1.10 MB, 640x384, shadow-slave.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053237 the new gold standard of progression fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:35:49 2023 No.22053599 >>22053382 Yeah Im hyped desu. Really like his style

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:42:31 2023 No.22053626 Are the Dresden Files books good?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:55:41 2023 No.22053651 >>22053315 Why do chuds get so triggered over women?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:01:50 2023 No.22053667 >>22053315 Have sex.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:11:02 2023 No.22053680 >>22053565 Femdom?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:17:53 2023 No.22053697 >>22053565 I like that there's no stats or stupid quests being shoved in your face, the system is very minimal

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:48:21 2023 No.22053758 >>22053565 i don't see gene wolfe on there.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:02:38 2023 No.22053789 >>22053758 >new

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:04:00 2023 No.22053792 >>22053701 >>22053701 >>22053701

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:09:13 2023 No.22053812 >>22053792 tl;dr

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:23:15 2023 No.22053853 >>22053680 yeah yeah , i know it's hot to think that nephis will use her power over sunless to ride him from dusk till down . but you know he would rather die than be a slave . if she want the shadow serpent ,then she should ask nicely .

Anonymous Sat May 20 13:25:37 2023 No.22053860

>>22053119
Honestly, most space fantasy stuff tends to still use sci-fi technobabble to explain space travel. It's kinda sad. Apparently Sanderson's Mistborn series will eventually go spacefaring and we see the sort of origin point for that magitech in era 2, but it's basically just 'tech but fancy' at that point.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:26:50 2023 No.22053865 File: 373 KB, 533x800, cm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUCK he is good.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:28:22 2023 No.22053872 File: 33 KB, 305x500, 519+-mEzKZL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22052164 Ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh mmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..................

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:28:40 2023 No.22053874 >>22053237 >Cradle >second sentence has a spelling error and uses "life"/"lives" four times Will this be an issue going forward or am I just too autistic to have fun

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:31:24 2023 No.22053879 >>22053872 >whore chronicles

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:32:08 2023 No.22053883 >>22053879 >female sexuality is le bad okay??? grow up

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:36:20 2023 No.22053894 File: 395 KB, 972x1438, Mieville Tolkien.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053865 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:37:55 2023 No.22053900 File: 60 KB, 800x450, large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053883 >justifying whorishness simp!!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:38:27 2023 No.22053903 >>22052617 >sadeas is sadistic (omg his name! bravo sando!) Ever heard of Sade? There's sort a precedent for this kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:42:39 2023 No.22053921 File: 308 KB, 1200x1200, 1681360479995913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053900 >seething cuz he cant get no sloots Sad

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:43:39 2023 No.22053924 File: 41 KB, 500x500, avatars-000115013356-hkr7w5-t500x500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053883 >female sexuality >le >grow up i tip my fedora to you good sir . hail segan

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:44:54 2023 No.22053930 >>22053883 I wish I could be an enlightened pussy magnet like you, good sir!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:47:45 2023 No.22053939 >>22053930 Yeah you do

Anonymous Sat May 20 13:48:53 2023 No.22053944
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>>22053921
>accept and enjoy promiscuity or you're a virgin
i would rather remain a virgin if those are my choices.
enjoy the sloppy seconds ,and give a taste overview afterwards

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:55:28 2023 No.22053964 File: 58 KB, 540x253, 1675871714880285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053944 >choice I dont think its a choice for you, buddy

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:56:01 2023 No.22053967 >>22053944 Someone escort this Sanderson fan out of here

Anonymous Sat May 20 13:57:13 2023 No.22053977

Is this a raid? Did someone link us to a reddit thread or some other social-aggregate?
>15yo normalfags defending casual sex in a book thread
>random faggot licking rothfuss ass for 3 threads straight now
>spambot adds a litrpg list to his script
>lull between threads of antibookfag shrieking like a BPD whore any time someone posts a book he doesn't approve of

Anonymous Sat May 20 13:59:40 2023 No.22053986

>>22053894
Truth is, when I "dis" Fantasy, I'm not referring to Epic or High Fantasy; I'm more often than not referring to authors that call their books "Grimdark" and have this massive chip on their shoulder for not being taken seriously. Frankly, it's ridiculous to me that someone would hold opinions such as those Miéville holds, particularly that Fantasy is apparently better the more accurately it reflects reality (odd then, that he mentions Moorcock despite this). Why even write fantasy at that point? I think his ignorance is most clear in this one sentence, however, "Tolkien's clichés—elves 'n' dwarfs 'n' magic rings—have spread like viruses". He calls them "Tolkien's clichés", as if these weren't all just myths Tolkien himself was directly pulling inspiration from, putting his own, albeit slight, twists on them.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:01:43 2023 No.22053993 File: 120 KB, 1200x1220, 9f3a425dc5b4755a0af4c9ab42c12668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053964 >making assumptions on someones attractivness to justify your addiction to other men's cum. ok buddy , you win.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:04:25 2023 No.22053998 >>22053977 no reddit raid that i'm aware of. just some guy who get erections from reading on a whore and want to get everybody else on it to lessen his guilt .

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:04:39 2023 No.22054000 File: 435 KB, 942x1590, on vandermeer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://stjoshi.org/review_vandermeer.html

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:05:09 2023 No.22054003 >>22053986 I mean, you can make fantasy that reflects reality while still being overtly fantastical. Discworld does that, it's blatantly satirising the real world in many parts.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:05:12 2023 No.22054004 >>22053996 bad writer

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:07:48 2023 No.22054012 File: 881 KB, 750x920, 1681061684797481.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22053993 Kek so I was correct. >so ugly you have to cope by associating sex with something gross Truly a tragic existence

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:08:54 2023 No.22054016 >>22053998 Definitely reads like 15 year olds posting off-topic to me. The consequences of single motherhood.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:13:57 2023 No.22054040 >>22053996 basedboy beta cucks. This ST Joshi guy sounds based

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:14:50 2023 No.22054044 >>22054040 >based >beta >cuck >based again Almost had a newfag bingo there.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:16:54 2023 No.22054056 File: 170 KB, 1920x1080, 1544464513836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22054045 jesus christ

Anonymous Sat May 20 14:19:03 2023 No.22054067
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Reading pic related. About 3/4 of the way through the book and I enjoy it. Started a bit dry and boring, but it has started to pic up. A bit much on the coomershit at times, but I can tolerate. Worldbuilding is interesting, but I read fuck all in terms of Sci Fi, so it might be fairly generic in reality.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:21:45 2023 No.22054078 >>22053996 >In August 2014, Joshi opposed the campaign to change the World Fantasy Award statuette from Gahan Wilson's bust of Lovecraft to one of African-American author Octavia Butler, and returned his World Fantasy Awards in protest

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:22:05 2023 No.22054080 >>22053986 Morecock has elves in his own books.

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Anonymous Sat May 20 14:25:21 2023 No.22054092
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>>22053996
Following in Edgar Allan Poe's footsteps. Sure, Poe was annoying and often completely off-base on most of his criticisms, particularly his rants on plagiarism, but to think people are so affected by some no-name critic publishing what is really just criticism at the end of the day, because he is a critic after all. I suppose we're all just supposed to keep these thoughts to ourselves now? The whole, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all", kind of mentality?
>Much as we admire the genius of Mr. Longfellow, we are fully sensible of his many errors of affectation and imitation. His artistical skill is great, and his ideality high. But his conception of the aims of poesy is all wrong; and this we shall prove at some future day — to our own satisfaction, at least. His didactics are all out of place. He has written brilliant poems — by accident; that is to say when permitting his genius to get the better of his conventional habit of thinking a habit deduced from German study. We do not mean to say that a didactic moral may not be well made the under-current of a poetical thesis; but that it can never be well put so obtrusively forth, as in the majority of his compositions. . . . . .

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:25:43 2023 No.22054093 >>22054071 nice veniss and ambergris

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:25:48 2023 No.22054094 >>22054088 B A S E D A S E D

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:27:22 2023 No.22054099 File: 430 KB, 2047x1326, shelf vampire.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:29:34 2023 No.22054108 >>22054094 >>22054099

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:31:15 2023 No.22054114 File: 190 KB, 1331x998, lovecraft shelf 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:32:20 2023 No.22054117 File: 477 KB, 1684x2048, lovecraft shelf 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:34:28 2023 No.22054131 Recommended me a good standalone book, sci-fi or fantasy. Only restriction is it needs to be distributed by Penguin Random House.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:36:07 2023 No.22054143 >>22054131 Castle of Otranto.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:41:05 2023 No.22054165 >>22054131 Piranesi

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:45:04 2023 No.22054184 >>22054099 ...why? I mean, I like Kristoff too but that's a bit much.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 15:12:09 2023 No.22054274 >>22054067 I might get around to reading that sometime. I liked his more recent fantasy book, The Justice of Kings.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 15:22:16 2023 No.22054322 >>22054131 The Mask of the Sorcerer Engine Summer The Killing Star

Anonymous Sat May 20 15:35:34 2023 No.22054364

>>22053996
>uses the faggy acronym POC
instantly dismiss this subhuman's opinion, I have no sympathy for virtue signallers who shove woke shit into their books for social credit
there are lots of good reasons to put women, and blacks, and latinos, and asians, and muslims, and native americans and every other sort of minority or ethnicity into your fiction, but the mere fact of their existence is not a justification, if you write on the basis of a checklist you may as well publish LITrpg

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:03:28 2023 No.22054452 What are Heinlein's horniest stories

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:09:13 2023 No.22054473 >>22054452 Stranger in a Strange Land's second half is about a free love sex cult.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:12:07 2023 No.22054481 File: 26 KB, 166x200, 1430910528380.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >and then I summoned a peculiar thought with my brain elements >brain elements

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:12:43 2023 No.22054484 The canon for weird fiction is up >>22054477

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:13:41 2023 No.22054489 >>22053119 The last Dying Earth novel is about a group of wizards traveling through space

Anonymous Sat May 20 16:34:46 2023 No.22054559

>>22052164
Types of Book Interactions As I See Them

For Those Who Haven't Read The Book
Report: statements that summarize the content

Opinion: statements of personal experience

Critique: a determination whether arbitary technical standards were met

Review (informal): Report + Opinion

Review (formal): Report + Critique

Promotional: to get as many sales as possible, which may include emotional manipulation through hyperbole and otherwise inauthentic presentation

Zealot: to get as many readers as possible because they believe that everyone should be reading it and will say and do whatever is needed with no benefit to their self other than self-satisfaction

Substitute: Interaction with the content to a high degree that seems meant to have the reader feel that they no longer need to read the book because they generally understand what it's about now even if may be mostly the writer's thoughts rather than what's presented in the book. In other words the writer has done all your thinking for you and all that's left is for the reader to accept or deny their interpretation.

For Those Who Have Read The Book
Involving one person
Critical Analysis: An in-depth exploration with the purpose of providing one's perspective that may allow for a greater depth of understanding and appreciation for others. Its presentation has myriad varieties.

Involving two or more persons
Argumentation, conversation, discussion, etc

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:52:27 2023 No.22054618 >>22054559 Forgot to mention your own meta post.

Anonymous Sat May 20 16:55:00 2023 No.22054626

i've been sifting through 'free' TRASH on audibles, but Dragon Heart is actually pretty good. viridian gate and terra nova before it were not great, and got worse fast.
i don't get the reviews/ratings on audibles either. makes me think people have no fucking idea. but i guess i dont either.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:04:14 2023 No.22054868 File: 3.78 MB, 2011x4618, read the canon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Most of these are online for free. Read, read, read.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:10:48 2023 No.22054892 >>22054626 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:01:30 2023 No.22055042 File: 822 KB, 629x968, 1677585327819405.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22052644 lol

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:12:53 2023 No.22055076 has anyone here read any of Christopher Priest's works? I quite enjoyed The Dream Archipelago and The Islanders

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:17:20 2023 No.22055087 Post your biggest pet hates in fantasy literature, I'll start >bossgirl protagonist >hesitant soon-to-be-ruler >le name but...spelt wëírde!!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:18:34 2023 No.22055089 >>22055042 Yeah I agree, remove the criminal position of many immigrants and I wouldn't mind them too much

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:19:35 2023 No.22055094 >>22054364 Seconded

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:20:50 2023 No.22055100

>>22055042
What exactly about this empty way of thinking pierces so many people's hearts? Does the average person have the emotional intelligence of a twelve year old? I thought they might have been healing a little bit from their stupidity when they suddenly realized en masse that being "color-blind" is meaningless and naive, but I suppose they were again just following the common stance of the time.

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:26:19 2023 No.22055111

>>22055087
>name-dumping locations or characters with seemingly no significance
>constant preference for mountains as scenery/setting
>the world/setting may be split up into many distinct areas, but these areas themselves are almost totally homogenous within them
>object that gives massive power, but very little effort is put into someone actually getting it
>writer completely glosses over means of communication

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:30:26 2023 No.22055120

>>22052310
I read this entire series up to the 5th book as it was coming out, granted I was about 13 then and thus didn't have the highest standards for fiction
while I enjoyed it then and liked the plot, compared to stuff I've read since (like the Forever War, which I would consider to be along the same lines as this book but far, far better) it really doesn't stand up

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:30:38 2023 No.22055121 >>22055111 >>writer completely glosses over means of communication That's a weirdly recent one. I think it's because we're so used to having near-constant communication in real life that the idea of people WITHOUT it just feels off.

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:33:03 2023 No.22055128

>>22053996
Crying about Sunand Tryambak Joshi being a "Lovecraft apologist" is pretty embarrassing when you yourself are a white gen-x-er who cares more about placating audiences than making anything imaginative while you yourself are only successful because Lovecraft wrote A Colour Out of Space 100 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:33:12 2023 No.22055129 >>22054040 Joshi is great. He's not just trolling, that book has a section praising the modern writers he thinks are good.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:34:19 2023 No.22055132 >>22055076 Fugue for a Darkening Island looks interesting but I wonder if it's gay and libtarded

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:37:55 2023 No.22055145 File: 2.43 MB, 498x266, mads smoking.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my friend is a Sanderson fan and swears by all his work, what other fantasy books would he like? he's read Abercrombie and liked it, but not nearly as much as Sanderson

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:38:36 2023 No.22055147

>>22055087
In sci fi I don't like when aliens have weird names. There's no thought into who came up with the names? "Vulcan" and "Romulan" make sense and sound like a human's names for the aliens These ones live on a volcano planet and these ones look like romans, ok. Calling the aliens "bugs" or something makes sense. But when it's Z'lethķa or something, where tf did that come from?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:38:59 2023 No.22055148 >>22055145 I don't understand how someone can be retarded like that

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:46:27 2023 No.22055164 >>22055111 >>the world/setting may be split up into many distinct areas, but these areas themselves are almost totally homogenous within them welcome to the entire planet for all of history up until the invention of railways

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:50:17 2023 No.22055175 File: 2.94 MB, 330x167, bonewheel.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22055145 The Wheel of Time

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:51:15 2023 No.22055177

When I was younger, sci-fi was unquestionably my favourite genre. From about 11 to 16 almost all fiction I read was sci-fi, mostly from the local library and then later on on my kindle (yes I'm a zoomer). These were mostly not YA sci-fi - think Peter F Hamilton and Charles Stross.
However, now that I'm older at 19 I can hardly go back to any of these kinds of books without considering them incredibly surface-level, trope-filled, reliant on setpieces and clichés, and overall just bad.
Reading the latest entries in series I used to enjoy fills me with boredom and I usually put them down fairly quickly. That's not to say I don't like all of sci-fi, there are definitely books I continue to love, but the vast majority I really just don't want to read.

Anyone have a similar experience to this with the genre?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:54:08 2023 No.22055187 >>22055177 repent, zoomer. you are a fucking child.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:55:22 2023 No.22055191 File: 113 KB, 800x450, EXMTyA-UcAABW57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22055087 >bossgirl protagonist Cringe >Strong adult woman dominatrix protagonist Based

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:59:15 2023 No.22055201

>>22053860
Damn it, they all just kind of lean into converse of Clarke's law then?

That's lame, I want to see forests tended by dryads inside ships with stolen sunlight acting as life support. I wanted to see shit like a decanter of endless water at the heart of the plumbing system.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:06:01 2023 No.22055227 >>22055147 Without context hearing a name like that I would assume humans were late to the party and didn’t have the political or military power to come up with a name for a society that already existed that was able to stick.

Anonymous Sat May 20 20:06:56 2023 No.22055232

>>22055201
I'm sure there's some like that, but even ones I've read that have "magic and also tech", magic tends to be just still doing its own magic stuff because tech is more efficient/more accessible. Magic is just more potent and has its niches, but tech is more widespread because you don't need to know how it works to use it. Probably some of the more esoteric high fantasy dips into space now and then. I've read at least one LitRPG that was largely fantastical where one book has the protagonist stuck in the void of space for like the first half of the book and he's mostly using magic to make his life bearable.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:07:33 2023 No.22055233 >>22055177 That's simply developing a level of level of discernment in knowing what you like and what you don't rather than indiscriminately reading anything and think it's just about all the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:12:58 2023 No.22055253 >>22055120 >>22055177 >I was about 13 then (in 2017) >(six years later) now that I'm older at 19 Same poster.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:14:52 2023 No.22055260 >>22055253 13 for the first book you retard

Anonymous Sat May 20 20:19:06 2023 No.22055274

>>22055164
You couldn't be possibly more wrong. So if you have a fantasy kingdom, chances are that it has a pretty uniform identity. Whereas in reality, if you were to take say, medieval France, there was no monolithic French cultural identity. It was a creation of the 19th century nation state and its mass media.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:20:04 2023 No.22055278 >>22055274 dumb historical revisionist

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:21:43 2023 No.22055288 >>22055278 How am I wrong exactly?

Anonymous Sat May 20 20:25:31 2023 No.22055297

>>22055288
you have a naive view of historic populations. just because two French nobles warred with and "othered" their opponent does not mean that either group disputed being French. The concept of overarching society bounded by a state or city-state containing nominally-different groups has been known and recognized for 6000 years

Anonymous Sat May 20 20:35:35 2023 No.22055330

>>22055297
The concept of being French as we understand it today didn't really exist. Places which we think of as unequivocally French today were not even under the French king. They were ruled by the kings of England, the dukes of Burgundy, the dukes of Savoy, etc. There was no common cultural identity to all lands within or adjacent to those under the French crown. Nothing which made a resident of Foix closer to a Norman than to a neighboring Catalan.

Anonymous Sat May 20 20:47:38 2023 No.22055373

>>22054274
I just finished up the book and I would definitely recommend. I have a real hard time enjoying sci fi literature and I loved it. If you have ever watched Babylon 5 and enjoyed it, then it would be up your alley. Space opera with a lot of political underpinnings.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:51:39 2023 No.22055385 File: 162 KB, 662x1024, Spirphone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22052164 >Magical Engineering That is what this book is all about...

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:18:05 2023 No.22055466 >>22055297 >you have a naive view of historic populations Projection.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:19:58 2023 No.22055474 >>22055164 >posts a blatantly wrong ahistorical lie What the fuck are you smoking?

Anonymous Sat May 20 21:32:07 2023 No.22055519

>>22055474
Cultures didn't really mix before the advent of quick and convenient means of travel. Obviously you would have some intermingling of neighbors, but unless you were leading an army halfway across the world, people tended to stay where they were. The claim that societies weren't homogenous is largely a modern political fiction - outside of outliers like Rome which had people traveling thousands of miles to reach, multicultural societies didn't really exist. Not as we understand them today, that is.

Anonymous Sat May 20 21:32:21 2023 No.22055520

>>22055087
>Titles are The X of Y, or The X-Y.
>First person POV
>First Person POV of a teen protag
>First person POV of a teen female protag
>First person POV of a teen famale protag who "not like other girls!" and doesn't like her lot in life and blames it on the fact she is a suppressed woman but also doesn't have it nearly as bad as other girls in the same story/universe who are actually oppressed
>Of course her POV narration is snarky, quippy, and insufferable
>Caste or class systems based around colors/flowers/what-the-fuck-ever
>Prince or some wealthy noble is the obvious love interest but have no chemistry, interesting scenes, and both of them have the personality of wet cardboard
>Schools that teaches nothing and doesn't have any interesting lessons or events
>The totallynot!prom or dance/ball event
>Kingdoms have absolute monarchies, but also have freedoms/woke/liberal policies
>Kingdoms are defined by their adjective i.e. "Kingdom of Stone" is le master stonemakers and shiz! They have absolutely nothing else going for them culturally, music, art, etc... unless it somehow ties back to rocks
>Protags named James, Josh, Aiden, what the fuck ever
>In LitRPGs, protags named Jake/Jason (pretty sure it's a rip on Primal Hunter/HWFWM)
>In LitRPGs, the lack of overarching direction in story.
>In LitRPGs, ability/stat/buff bloat - literally pages of pointless bloat.
>Real-world-fucking-references that date and makes a story show its age (I remember reading a scene about the protag playing CoD on an Xbox and it made me angry)
>Sex scenes
>Vanilla sex scenes
>I mean fuck, if you're gonna do a sex scene, at least make it interesting. It's always in some romantic setting. Why not fuck in the stables and describe the horses neighing in unison as they climax? At least grrm had the balls to say 'pink fat mast' or 'her cunt became the world' to make it over the top bad

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:39:38 2023 No.22055558 >>22055087 >le name but...spelt wëírde!! I would rather characters be named shit like Edwyn, then Earsilduril or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:42:11 2023 No.22055576 >>22055519 This comment is so off the mark and full of bad assumptions that I don't even know where to begin. You just make a broad general statement with ignorant confidence that sounds true, but is ahistorical and plainly wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:43:48 2023 No.22055588 >>22055576 I'm right, you're wrong, cope harder.

Anonymous Sat May 20 22:17:50 2023 No.22055752

>>22055519
The flip side of that was that polities were internally diverse because there wasn't a centralised cultural identity disseminated across the whole territory.

And there were (and to a large degree still are) places where numerous different ethnic groups or communities lived side by side in a pre-industrial context. Its more evident in most of Asia and Africa where the nation state is a more recent introduction than in most of Europe. But its still very evident in places like Transylvania or Bosnia, and was even more so before modern nationalist ethnic cleansing and assimilation efforts.

Anonymous Sat May 20 22:28:16 2023 No.22055791

>>22055087
>Every country or culture is just a straight up ripoff of a real historical one
It can be cool to make the odd nod here and there to something from real history, but I really hate it when everything tries to be a direct parallel to something in real life. It comes across as just a lazy way to write pseudo-historical literature without having to actually research history in much depth and to not have to put much imagination into your worldbuilding.

Anonymous Sat May 20 22:31:33 2023 No.22055808

>>22055576
He's right though.

It was very difficult for any society to become multi-cultural expect in the case of conquest (the conquerors often becoming their own separate class/caste retaining their own culture). Hell look at the food words in English for a great example. Societies were very homogeneous. People are tribal you like your tribe/group more than someone else's. You're not going to adopt the ways of someone else unless they are extremely beneficial in some manner. Travel was also more limited and dangerous so only the most ground breaking ideas and advancements of a culture tended to get spread and then adapted to fit into the culture of the area. There was mixing brought about by merchants but for foreigners that settled down in other cultures they tended to group together into ghettos with their countrymen. Just like modern cultural groups do the exact same thing in modern 'multicultural' cities.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 22:53:14 2023 No.22055915 >>22055520 >>In LitRPGs, protags named Jake/Jason (pretty sure it's a rip on Primal Hunter/HWFWM) Honestly I see way too many Ja- names in LitRPGs. Or Alex. There's a lot of Alexes.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:15:39 2023 No.22055988 >Protagonist's name is Jason Alex

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:18:58 2023 No.22056004 File: 322 KB, 803x1065, leshiggy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22055988 -ander

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:20:15 2023 No.22056011 >>22056004 >It's current year - 3!

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:28:48 2023 No.22056037

>>22053599
long shot, but do you anon have any idea if the Babel short stories actually exist?
that would be these:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51729390-short-stories-vignettes-from-the-babel-verse

the only info I've found on them is one (1) leddit post referencing the GR entry with a user claiming it might have been a patreon thing.
honestly not sure if vaporware

would very much like to read them

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:29:49 2023 No.22056041 >>22055087 The protagonist picking up some orphan and it sticking around for the rest of the story. Jesus fucking Christ do I hate this shit hijacking the plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:31:49 2023 No.22056048 >>22056037 nothing on mobi

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:41:27 2023 No.22056085
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>>22055087
every single fucking "epic fantasy" author doing the "20 different povs" meme where half of them are characters you don't care about and only serve to interrupt and cockblock the plot of the actual interesting characters

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:45:41 2023 No.22056092

>>22056085
I feel like if it's just "character who's alongside a major protagonist getting a POV so we can get an outside perspective on the protagonist", I'm generally okay with that, especially if it's just a one-off. Hell, one of my favourite bits in a lot of stories is "fight where the POV switches to the bad guy's side so we can see just how terrifying the protag is".

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:47:53 2023 No.22056097 Dream would be to write a novel capturing everything Event Horizon failed to capture. The closest thing I have discovered is Brian Evenson’s Dead Space series

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:53:37 2023 No.22056116 >>22056085 I almost always drop books that do this. Already hated it in LoTR, and it was a lot less obnoxious than these PoV switches every two pages writers love to do nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:53:39 2023 No.22056117 >>22056085 What if the interesting characters were the ones removed and it was only ones you don't care about. That's a lot of trust that the author will choose the characters you specifically enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:55:45 2023 No.22056123 >>22056117 Find another book, duh.

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:57:58 2023 No.22056133

>tfw when you know that people don't like more than one pov because it interrupts their self-insert and takes them out of the story

>tfw when you pity the autists who after expending all of their mental energy trying to understand the mind of a single character find that was just the beginning and they react in rage because they've been pushed far beyond their capacity for emulated empathy

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 00:38:56 2023 No.22056248 >>22056037 Wayback machine anon, I found one in early 2020 still up buzzard man. https://web.archive.org/web/20200318110809/http://www.thebooksofbabel.com/vignettes-from-the-tower

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:07:09 2023 No.22056318 >>22054143 To be fair, Otranto is really bad. The Monk on the other hand, is also a penguin classic and is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:08:54 2023 No.22056320 >>22056318 I decided to read Castle of Otranto for its novelty and influence on Gothic literature and I was definitely very underwhelmed.

Anonymous Sun May 21 01:14:04 2023 No.22056332

>>22056117
You're already trusting the author to write a non-shit story. I do not support the idea of "throw a bunch of random stuff into one book and hope that each reader is going to like a bit of it by force of quantity". As >>22056123 pointed out, if the author's choice of narrative focus is really so unpalatable then reading something else is a perfectly viable option.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:14:52 2023 No.22056333 >>22054452 Friday, Stanger in a Strange Land, Farnham's Freehold. All of his work that isn't YA is horny, really.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:18:14 2023 No.22056338 >>22056320 I hit a few of them after finding out the Northanger Horrids were real. Mostly terrible, but The Monk is a hilarious standout.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:20:47 2023 No.22056342 >>22053903 Please tell me this is an meta ironic comment and not a post by someone even marginally well read.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:28:13 2023 No.22056357 >>22056333 How's Friday?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:37:36 2023 No.22056386 >>22056357 Not him, but it's forgettable unless you liked the bobs on the cover.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:50:43 2023 No.22056434 >>22056117 Then at the very least it would be a much tighter book for a fraction of the readership

Anonymous Sun May 21 02:09:40 2023 No.22056477

>>22056342
Sade > Sadisme/Sadique > Sadism/Sadist
You could make the argument that this is wholly different, because whereas Sadism was derived from Sade's name, Sadeas' name was derived from Sadism, giving Sadeas a subaltern relation to Sadism instead of a superaltern one as Sade has, but I don't believe it truly matters. Rather, the idea that a character name's being derived from their primary traits is tacky or in any way inherently bad is wrong, as I see it. Do we not already tend to give our Fantasy protagonists nice sounding names which reflect how we as authors wish our audience to view them? And further, do we not also refrain from naming our ancillaries in the same strain as our protagonists? It's empty criticism, doing absolutely nothing to clue one in on whether or not the character is well written or not. Are we going to lob criticism at the late Tolkien because Gandalf the Grey, echoing the transfiguration of Christ, was from then on appellated "Gandalf the White"? I'm sure someone will and/or has already done so, but I don't think it'd make for very convincing criticism. I don't think Sanderson's work is exactly deserving of such acute criticism, but even so.

Anonymous Sun May 21 02:13:27 2023 No.22056483

>>22053519
>Why would an editor care if he posted the first chapter/ not want him to follow through on his promises?
Maybe the chapter sucked so bad that it would've burned out all the goodwill he has left and the editor, knowing that, forced him to publish the novella (which is probably better)?
>>22054071
>The Weird by Jeff VanderMeer in the front
We were just talking about you anon, over here >>22053996 >>22054000

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:45:24 2023 No.22056572 >>22054000 I haven't read much from "lovecraft scholars" but Dunwich Horror really is goofy. I didn't know it was a late period Lovecraft story.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:50:28 2023 No.22056584 Should I read Philip K Dick if I’m sick of idea guys

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:52:02 2023 No.22056591 >>22056584 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:19:52 2023 No.22056674 Can anyone recommend me SF/F mystery novels? I like mysteries/noir/detective/police stuff that has a science fiction or fantasy twist or is set in another world

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:21:28 2023 No.22056677 >>22056584 he's really not good

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:27:45 2023 No.22056697 >>22056674 Cadwal Chronicles

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:31:49 2023 No.22056707 >>22056677 Retard

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:50:43 2023 No.22056755 >>22056674 you could read the series that begins with A Talent for War though I stopped reading after the first book because it switched to a f*male narrator

Anonymous Sun May 21 04:39:37 2023 No.22056858
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Got baited into reading Super Minion without knowing that it's perma unfinished. I've been avoiding capeshit like the plague ever since the Worm/Ward incident but I found that I quite enjoyed this particular novel. Anyone have recommendations for other capeshit to read?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 04:47:52 2023 No.22056875 What books feature multi-route mysteries?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 05:00:34 2023 No.22056898 >>22056875 do you mean like a CYOA?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 05:47:56 2023 No.22056983 >>22053519 So he has managed to write a novella instead of working on the book? Curious. What is this illness called? Martinitis?

Anonymous Sun May 21 05:56:01 2023 No.22057006

>>22053519
>Why would an editor care if he posted the first chapter
It means that his editor does not believe that DoS will be finished for at least another 5 years, minimum. Publishing teasers to build up hype for a release is a common marketing strategy. Cockteasing people but then not actually releasing the product is a good way to piss people off and burn you audience's goodwill.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 06:31:19 2023 No.22057071 File: 437 KB, 1920x1344, 1671644172203276.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22052176 Why don't they just put a sprin in it?

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Anonymous Sun May 21 07:37:32 2023 No.22057181

>>22056572
Dunwich Horror is mostly praised because it's le Cthulhu story, and everything HPL Cthulhu is automatically good. It's not bad, but goofy is a good description. There's little mystery and thus no tension, the scary part isn't that scary (or rather somewhat diluted by the rest of the story), and the resolution is rather underwhelming.
The Whisperer in Darkness is much better in all of these aspects. I also loved The Horror at Red Hook, which reminded me of Baskervilles hound, and was strikingly different from HPL's earlier works. Both are better at mystery and implicit horror, and are simply written better.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 08:06:16 2023 No.22057227 File: 37 KB, 318x450, saving supervillains.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22056858 Unironically try Saving Supervillains by Bruce Sentar. It's a harem, but the story's suprisingly good.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 09:55:29 2023 No.22057378 Finished The Way of Kings yesterday. Felt like nothing truly happens until the last 200 or so pages Also it felt lame how Dalinar didn't chop Sadeas' dick off and feed it to him before killing him

Anonymous Sun May 21 10:09:42 2023 No.22057403

>>22056048
thanks for checking

>>22056248
wow nice, thanks bro.

forgot to mention this from the reddit post also
>I AM here to at least contribute that in addition to the upcoming Hexologists series, I heard in an interview that he will also be releasing a collection of BoB short stories pretty soon. It was unclear whether this would be a repackaging of some of these previous short stories, or new ones, or both. It seemed like new stories, as it was discussed in the context of JB coping with leaving that world and moving on to other works.

would be awesome, hexologists is finished now so a man can hope

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 10:09:49 2023 No.22057404 File: 82 KB, 1200x1200, cute ayy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22057378 I'm happy you read another book my guy

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 10:17:20 2023 No.22057420 >>22057227 Bro, just how low are your standards if you thinking recommending trash like that is acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 10:21:46 2023 No.22057431 >>22057420 Hes a coomer

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 10:25:37 2023 No.22057443 File: 4 KB, 226x223, 1657537438646853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22057227

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 10:59:41 2023 No.22057517 File: 110 KB, 1252x1252, 1471422914701.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Old Neil's death wtf bros.... I was prepared for chink shounen, not this......

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:08:20 2023 No.22057530 >>22056041 I'm so glad that in the most recent example of this I came across the orphan gets vaporized after like 2 chapters.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:10:04 2023 No.22057533 The Name of the Wind is the best fantasy book in existence

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:10:30 2023 No.22057535 >>22056041 Witcherbros...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:11:31 2023 No.22057538 >>22055191 Do you have any examples of the latter? Asking for a friend.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:12:08 2023 No.22057540 >>22057533 Is that the one with the cuck monologue about how the protagonist has a deeper connection to the whore than all the men who actually got to fuck her?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:15:42 2023 No.22057545 >>22057540 she's not a whore.

Anonymous Sun May 21 11:30:23 2023 No.22057570

>>22057006
I doubt that. I think his editor is pushing him to publish this as a cash grab/ way to hype up DoS in the next 1-2 years.

His publishing house was sold to chinese company though. I am curious as to the implications of this sale.

He seemed more positive in the video.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:30:48 2023 No.22057571 >>22056898 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:32:07 2023 No.22057576 File: 129 KB, 768x1024, cuckkiller chronicles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22057540 Yes. We've attracted some faggy rothfuss asslicker too over the past few threads.

Anonymous Sun May 21 11:35:32 2023 No.22057584

>>22057540
Yep that's the one. It kinda weird. Pat gas said a bunch of weird things in blog posts about his ex-wife and how he wouldn't mind if she pined after younger men. Uts a coping method I guess.

What mental illness would you diagnose Rothfuss with?

> depression/ anxiety/ self-loathing
> some form of narcissism
> Perhaps OCD

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:37:31 2023 No.22057585 >>22057584 he has diagnosed adhd

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:37:42 2023 No.22057586 >>22057584 Low-T

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:36:28 2023 No.22057744 >>22057530 My most recent example had the orphan be a main character for the rest of the book but then she committed suicide at the end and was never mentioned again. What a relief.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:39:54 2023 No.22057754 >>22057744 >she stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:09:40 2023 No.22057821 >>22057744 name?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:14:05 2023 No.22057834 >>22057821 When True Night Falls

Anonymous Sun May 21 13:22:16 2023 No.22057862
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>>22055519
>Cultures didn't really mix before the advent of quick and convenient means of travel
How does your bitch ass think Buddhism ended up in Japan. Fucking telepathy?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:24:56 2023 No.22057875 >>22057530 Sword of the Lictor?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:58:47 2023 No.22057972 >>22057875 What was the point of lil sev?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:10:50 2023 No.22057995 >>22057862 Ideas spread, not people, retard. Merchants exist.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:12:18 2023 No.22058000 >>22057995 >Merchants are not people Interdasting

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:17:12 2023 No.22058015 >>22058000 Merchants were itinerant at their core, so unless you mean to say that tourists existing make a society not homogenous I don't understand your point.

Anonymous Sun May 21 14:30:15 2023 No.22058046
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>>22057538
Pic related, romance warning since i know some autists get triggered by it. Mercenary woman in her late thirties teams up with a sheltered monk in his early twenties to recover a stolen sacred scroll.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:31:35 2023 No.22058053 >>22058046 Is she really a dom?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:36:51 2023 No.22058070 >>22058053 Ye, she wears the pants in the relationship.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:45:57 2023 No.22058099 >>22058070 Neat.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:23:06 2023 No.22058348 >>22057545 she's a literal prostitute

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:27:01 2023 No.22058360 >>22057875 That's the one. >>22057972 It's multi-layered. At the very least he causes some introspection.

Anonymous Sun May 21 16:42:37 2023 No.22058436
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The Risen Empire, Scott Westerfeld, 2003.

Despite being better known for his YA-oriented works, I found this book to hold quite nuanced story with some good commentary on its own world. Its depiction of space combat was also surprisingly grounded and detailed, not shying away from the enormity of distances and minute time-scales involved. It's written from a few differing perspectives, including from one of the "antagonists"', and kept me quite engaged.

overall 3.5/5

Anonymous Sun May 21 17:04:36 2023 No.22058516

>>22058348
More like a scam artist. She lures guys in with the promise of sex and doesn't deliver, at least it doesn't seem so. She's like the only fans of Temerant, but she leaves town. If she actually fucked dudes she wouldn't be broke all the time.

But yeah she's a dumb whore.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:16:23 2023 No.22058546 >>22058516 you can hear the name of the wind in her blown out whore ass and pussy

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:18:01 2023 No.22058549 >>22058546 You should write something.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:18:08 2023 No.22058552 >>22056674 Galactic Bounty

Anonymous Sun May 21 17:48:07 2023 No.22058681

>>22058516
>She lures guys in with the promise of sex and doesn't deliver, at least it doesn't seem so
False. It is literally stated that the guys Kvothe sees her with are fucking her, 'holding her in their arms'. She gets railed by paying dudes all the time, meanwhile Kvothe deludes himself in thinking he has better connection with her. In real life if you saw this you would know how pathetic it is. Real prostitues at least fuck the guys they like outside of work, meanwhile his cute whore didn't give a single fuck outside of being casual acquaintance.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:52:27 2023 No.22058703 isn't the whole point of kingkiller that teenager Kvothe was a clueless little shit of course he'd find a way to cope with seeing his crush fuck everyone in town instead of manning up and telling her to fuck off

Anonymous Sun May 21 18:08:30 2023 No.22058772
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>>22052176
Fabrials made their society lazy and set back their mechanical engineering by a hundred years. Say no to magic.

https://youtu.be/pwglOlD7e0M
https://youtu.be/Ny-ighFGg98

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:10:11 2023 No.22058779 >>22058703 But he hopes one day she'll fuck him. And when she doesn't he fucks off to a small little inn jacking off to the thoughts of her fucking another dude

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:15:53 2023 No.22058802 >>22058779 yeah but then one day he bangs the fairy goddess of sex

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:18:09 2023 No.22058814 >>22058779 If Denna doesn't turn out to be a virgin I'm going to kill myself

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:59:36 2023 No.22058998 File: 190 KB, 270x414, nealasher.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man, these covers... But seriously, I love Neal Asher Anyone here even read him?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:01:30 2023 No.22059004 >>22058998 Warosu.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:11:08 2023 No.22059058 File: 19 KB, 666x173, Bot Account.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've seen this faggot praising new books that barely have no reviews (and also look like trash). How correct is my hunch that this is a paid reviews bot?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:12:37 2023 No.22059067 >>22059058 Not a lot of content to this review..

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:21:16 2023 No.22059094 >>22059058 >someone with the name trusted reviewer might actually be untrustworthy You don't say

Anonymous Sun May 21 19:34:32 2023 No.22059118

>thought people meant the back half of Martial World when "True Martial World" was brought up
>it's some gay spinoff about an isekai who ends up in Martial World
who would even read that gay shit
anyway I finished Ancient Phoenix Clan and started TRUE MARTIAL WORLD now, ready to see Lin Ming keep shitting on niggas and his eventual ascension into Ninefall

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:37:29 2023 No.22059132 >>22059118 they say True martial world was written by the same author, that is hard to believe because it's completely different, read like 20 chapters and dropped it

Anonymous Sun May 21 20:09:16 2023 No.22059250

>>22058436
I will never accept "enormity" as it's true definition of "utter wickedness".

After looking at the free excerpt of the book, I don't think I'll read it. The author really did find success later in YA though. It's good for a person to know what they're suited for.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:18:53 2023 No.22059294 >>22053315 Jordan's female POVs are awful

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:32:17 2023 No.22059356 >>22053626 It's a fun series, great even if you like urban fantasy. Would also recommend Repairman Jack

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:35:41 2023 No.22059385 >>22053315 >this consoom mentality of looking at chapter wordcounts disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:38:26 2023 No.22059402 >>22058772 Oh noes, boobs on a blue board. Think of the children.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:43:18 2023 No.22059417 >>22053119 The Storm comics by Don Lawrence? That is not /lit/ though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:51:34 2023 No.22059460 >>22058772 Shallan wouldn't make such a dommy sultry face

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:53:29 2023 No.22059470 >>22059460 what are u talkin about. adolin and kaladin don't take initiative in the bedroom

Anonymous Sun May 21 20:57:02 2023 No.22059485
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>>22052164
This is very offtopic, but I'm asking here on the remote chance someone can help because of some overlap with fantasy.
Does anyone have a scan of this memebook? A transcription, not a scan of it, is available on Z Library.

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:18:26 2023 No.22059601
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT;

what a shit show!!

how did i end up wasting my time on this garbage??
the protagonists have an arranged marriage and he tell his new wife she can come to him when she's ready because he doesn't want to 'rape' her.

and what does she do ? cheat on him with her lover . get pregnant ,give him some pity sex to convince him that the kid is his .

he find out using his magic , confront her ,and kill her lover. and then?
spend the next 7 books of the series dealing with an annoying cheating whore . the reason he won't out her and get rid of her?

he doesn't want to 'break the peace' ;;;;what?
by the end of the book ,he's the most powerful magic user in the world and he still doesn't want to divorce the whore .

he tell his mother the kid isn't his and she doesn't even change her attitude towards the whore.

he can hear the kid whining in his house and he think it's a good revenge that the whore won't sleep well....
throughout the whole serie . the only detailed sex scene is the whore with her lover . the protagonist has sex once . when his wife is duping him.

in the first book ,he even sit camouflaged in a corner watching them fuck and crying while ' pushing his 'magical limit' ....

the serie end with him still married to a cheating whore who won't even look at him while providing for the child of another man while he is childless,and this is somehow presented as win.....

yeah ,i'm going back to harem lit at least they give you what they promise . fuck this cuck shit

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:21:28 2023 No.22059612 >>22053996 I love how white male leftshits will brag about putting grrrl power and POC garbage in their novels, but then deny they put them in their for virtue signal reasons when called out.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:21:31 2023 No.22059613 File: 41 KB, 313x500, 51OVv7DFzrL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where the fuck did book 2 audiobook go? It disappeared off the net.

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:22:05 2023 No.22059616

>>22058681
Being held in her arms isn't explicit.

Maybe she fucks, maybe she doesn't. Now if she came to Kvothe saying

> oh shit I'm pregnant
> so and so fucks like a God.

That's explicit. Pat seems to have purposefully left it vague whether or not she fucks these dudes.

Also there is the conversation between Kvothe and the older guy who owns the bar (can't remember his name, Stanchion maybe). Where he says something to the point of she leaves town when the dudes get ready to fuck and consider her bought and paid for.

I think most young teenagers go through something like this and most of them end up getting another girl and not letting friendzone bullshit happen again.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:26:08 2023 No.22059639 File: 121 KB, 848x686, smug_doggo2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22059613 >wushu lit

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:27:48 2023 No.22059643 >>22054000 >could best be classified as surrealist or absurdist He doesn’t even know what these two terms mean

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:27:51 2023 No.22059644

>>22052392
Couple of points:
1. You're gay.
2. Legend is based if flawed.
3. Gemmell wrote Legend only because he thought he was dying of cancer at the time. It was his first novel and reads like a writer's first novel.
4. Legend was groundbreaking for its time. I'm sorry a highly influential 40 year old novel doesn't feel all that fresh anymore.
5. You seem to not understand what 'heroic fantasy' is to begin with. That or you're a fag who needs LE SUBVERSION to enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:30:51 2023 No.22059660 >>22056674 Neon Harvest

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:35:24 2023 No.22059681

>>22059613
Is there a way to rip a soundcloud hidden files?
The entire book seems to be there, but only chapter one is avaiable.
https://soundcloud.com/jonathan_tratar/coiling-dragon-book-2-chapt-1?si=6daaba9701d843639b3d35dd98ba572a&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:35:40 2023 No.22059682

>>22059601
I normally hate cuck stories but this was ok because its hardly even relevant, it is at best a subplot.
Mc didn't even love her, but married her due to arranged marriage, I don't remember now exactly but I think at one point he was ok with her running away with her lover because he just didn't care, she chose to stay with mc but then eventually cucked him, and he got mad and killed her lover because of it and didn't divorce her to make her life difficult.
That's about it. Love story ends and then real adventure begins.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:38:12 2023 No.22059690 >>22053996 Damn I can't find this book to download for free.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:42:33 2023 No.22059707 >>22059613 It was deleted off the net the chinks got some legal battle going on. None of the books sites on the web have the audiobooks. Only book one. The chinks won and you aren't getting the sequels (even though they did up to book 4) ever.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 21:47:47 2023 No.22059725 >>22059682 Feels like a... Sort of why even have it at that point?

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:53:32 2023 No.22059740

>>22059725
One assumes it's part of the power fantasy - either lack of care towards a woman to the point he doesn't pay attention to her whoring, some MGTOW shit...or a revenge fantasy, the anon did say he becomes the strongest mage in the world by the end of the book, maybe it's the typical 'I outpaced you' shit?

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:00:04 2023 No.22059767

>>22059725
That's what I'm asking. What's the point?
Why not just write the story without any relationship.
I literally felt the humiliation in the protagonists place .
And how can the ' real adventure begin' when he's still married to the cheating whore in the last book ?
Imagine being childless for the foreseeable future ( because not only won't he touche the women, she couldn't even look at him without feeling disgusted) while the child of the man of fucked your wife on your bed is living of your money and take your name and everyone treat it as your child ?
What a weird experience this book was .
Thank out I figured out something wasn't right by book 3 and just speed read the rest .
I need to go clean my brain of this shit now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:01:47 2023 No.22059778 File: 264 KB, 1200x819, adrian_tchaikovsky.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wries

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:04:13 2023 No.22059793 >>22059660 gonna check this out. looks interesting

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:05:47 2023 No.22059805

>>22059767
>>22059740
Like, if I compare to something that seems similar as a starting point, Dungeon Crawler Carl. Carl starts the book off having just broken up with his long-time girlfriend after learning she was cheating on him. After that, she barely figures into his life at all except for as regards to Donut, the cat she owned that he's now in charge of because reasons. He has bigger issues, and romance seems to be the furthest thing from his mind because humanity is on the line and he doesn't have time.

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:06:42 2023 No.22059809

>>22059725
I know, I think the author just wanted to provide a solid reason for the main character to abandon any and all romantic pursuits in future so he could just concentrate on magic, he probably could have come up with something else rather than cuck subplot but it served it's purpose.

>>22059767
because he had not provided any reason for mc to be uncaring character devoid of any love, something had to happen to push away from from people and society and towards magic

>I literally felt the humiliation in the protagonists place .
I didn't, it felt it was cliche, it was so fake it was almost funny

>And how can the ' real adventure begin' when he's still married to the cheating whore in the last book ?
Imagine being childless for the foreseeable future ( because not only won't he touche the women, she couldn't even look at him without feeling disgusted) while the child of the man of fucked your wife on your bed is living of your money and take your name and everyone treat it as your child ?
this is like a western progression story, it is not a love story or a drama, main character literally does not care about anything other than magic and things that help in advance in magic,

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:17:13 2023 No.22059849 >>22059809 ...Why don't authors just write blatantly asexual characters if they want that, I wonder?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:19:23 2023 No.22059858 >>22059849 Asexual characters don't seem realistic.

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:23:19 2023 No.22059871

>>22059809
If he didn't care then maybe. But there is an entire chapter in book 1 where he sit hiding and watching the cheating ensue. That doesn't seem like not caring.
And I can't understand how someone can be so passionate about a profession or a topic that they're fine with their enemy just replacing their bloodline.
But Maybe I'm the abnormal one here . Who knows

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:24:49 2023 No.22059883 >>22059871 >Hiding and crying while watching the cheating ensue

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:30:23 2023 No.22059905

>>22059849
>...Why don't authors just write blatantly asexual characters if they want that, I wonder?
Keep in mind most of self-pub, power progression or litrpgs books are written either by virgin 18-25 young men or 35-50+ guys doing a hobby. Next to zero in-between people. And it's mostly the first group. These people don't even comprehend how to write relationships or how people act. You reading endlessly derivative characters inspired by other characters, not actual real people.

Don't expect self-pub to become better until 5-10 years pass and the generation of writers grows up. One of the flaws of the internet, everyone is fucking young. There are no old people on the internet, if you were a young writer 50 years ago you could have brilliant ideas but at the same times you had people of all sorts of ages ahead and behind you. On the internet everyone's fucking young and blind lead the blind.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:31:56 2023 No.22059912 >>22059849 because he wasn't asexual. >>22059871 the entire whole chapter? kek I think it was at the beginning, he also cared about his family and other things, but after magic took over, his priorities changed

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:32:32 2023 No.22059917 I want to read ASOIAF, but the first three books are apparently near straight adapted into the show, and it is not until book 4 that things really change. I feel like 3000 pages of stuff I have already seen will be too much to wade through.

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:42:40 2023 No.22059954

>>22059912
We're basically going in circles . I will stop with this post so I don't ruin this thread any further.
All I wanted to explain is this .
The whore explain in her monologue that the reason she's about to have sex with her husband is to fool into believing the child is his so she can the life of her child with her lover .
The protagonist discover her cheating. He's hurt . He want revenge. And he accomplish that by..... protecting the whore from the consequences of cheating and providing her and her bastard with a safe home and his name as a noble . Which you know. Is what she wanted .... from the beginning...
I really can't the logic or the progress that you see . Maybe I'm just not cut out for it .

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:46:29 2023 No.22059975 File: 189 KB, 500x494, cat_tired.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22059849 back in the day, authors just didn't bring up sexuality at all if they didn't want to.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:49:58 2023 No.22059995 >>22057584 >Pat gas said a bunch of weird things in blog posts about his ex-wife and how he wouldn't mind if she pined after younger men Link them

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:51:05 2023 No.22060000 >>22059793 Based.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 23:02:15 2023 No.22060061 >>22059995 https://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/2014/02/love-redux/ It's the last several paragraphs. It's odd.

Anonymous Sun May 21 23:23:06 2023 No.22060143

>>22059917
Sure, they're adapted, but overall it's still a small amount of everything that happened. It's mostly the same, though the majority has been omitted to streamline the story for the tv series. What matters most is how much you'd enjoy it. Either start from the beginning of not at all

Anonymous Sun May 21 23:40:59 2023 No.22060205

>>22059954
tell me, what do you care about in novels? are you person that concentrates purely on romance and romantic drama and/or male and female relationships and feelings?

The whole point of the entire wife subplot was to have main character abandon his wife and his family and have it as a starting point for main character to pursue magic. It could have been done better, he could have just killed her off and be done with her instead he chose to "torture" her and never give her freedom. Now it's been a long time since I read it but soon after he starts learning magic he hardly ever thinks about, he hardly even remembers her. So technically she is there but the premise is more like she doesn't exist to the main character anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 00:00:00 2023 No.22060297 >>22060205 Greet your wife's son from me, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 00:15:53 2023 No.22060348 What are some book with Christian themes like Tolkien and CS Lewis?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 00:29:53 2023 No.22060398 >>22058998 I tried one and didn't connect. I might try again.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 00:35:25 2023 No.22060418 >>22060348 Byzantium by Stephen Lawhead and The Golden Queen series by Dave Wolverton have great conversion stories. The Sparrow is very christian.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:03:01 2023 No.22060492 File: 360 KB, 400x400, based salvation chad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22060348 >>22060418 based

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:24:21 2023 No.22060558 File: 1.03 MB, 498x793, Screenshot_3799.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just finished this is not that bad, is not that good either, just comfy

Anonymous Mon May 22 02:58:45 2023 No.22060948

>>22060348
Do you mean explicitly Christian, like where they actually talk about Jesus Christ's sacrifice and resurrection as the son of God, or those that follow this belief? Or do you mean allegorically Christian, where the names are masked but the meaning is unmistakable? Or do you mean any story with an internal religion vaguely or superficially similar to Christianity?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 03:54:30 2023 No.22061104 >>22055087 >Author restates actual real world proof/philosophy verbatim but attributes it to a character Fuck niel stephenson

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 04:09:41 2023 No.22061141 >>22055087 >character constantly being extremely willing to sacrifice themselves

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 04:40:46 2023 No.22061221 >>22060948 Allegorical

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 04:59:56 2023 No.22061269 File: 9 KB, 254x300, 1454969966131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22059767 >I literally felt the humiliation in the protagonists place .

Anonymous Mon May 22 05:02:48 2023 No.22061274

>>22061221
Most books by Stephen Lawhead - Dream Thief, The Song of Albion, The Dragon King, etc
Guy Gavriel Kay's Fionavar Tapestry (he has another series of books in which a fictionalized version of Christianity exists but I don't know that it actually has any meaningful philosophy behind the narrative so much as set dressing)
The Pilgrim's Progress (also The Postmodern Pilgrim's Progress, which is more readable and topical for an audience living after the 1600s when the original was written)
you might be interested in Declare and The Drawing of the Dark by Tim Powers, and possibly Inferno by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, God's Demon and Heart of Hell by Wayne Barlowe, and The Eighth Arrow by J. Augustine Wetta
there's also the peculiar example of Jewish-themed portal fantasy called the Prophecies series by Michael A. Rothman, which is broadly similar to Christian-themed fantasy for obvious reasons

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 05:09:41 2023 No.22061295 File: 261 KB, 1146x1712, R - 2023-05-22T004906.148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any way to get book recommendations from chatgpt that aren't reddit shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 05:17:11 2023 No.22061309 >>22061295 Please stop using "Reddit" as an adjective.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 06:02:05 2023 No.22061416 >>22060558 I don't like starting a new series until it's finished.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 06:04:09 2023 No.22061422 File: 452 KB, 740x976, reading.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my reading list

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 06:21:10 2023 No.22061465 Are there any Discworld novels not really worth a read? I've heard some of the earlier ones like Equal Rites are skippable

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 06:23:36 2023 No.22061474 >>22061465 If you're looking for excuses not to read something, maybe you should just not read any of them and spend your time on something you actually enjoy, like browsing 4chan

Anonymous Mon May 22 07:14:50 2023 No.22061618

>>22052389
It’s a shame because the final novel has the best setting (The Lanky home world A rogue gas giant system with a series of moons in total blackness only accessible by accidentally piggybacking off a seed ships FTL) out of all 8 and then abruptly ends after multiple interesting twists, revelations, and a 3 year time travel jump from hitching a ride on said lanky ships FTL drive, after which the protagonist retires anti climatically with no resolution to the war or the plot lines introduced

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 07:25:07 2023 No.22061639 File: 365 KB, 740x976, Untitled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22061422 Only author I've read but wouldn't recommend is Niven. Kind of surprised that Night's Master was an inspiration seeing how it feels almost post D&D

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 08:24:21 2023 No.22061754 >>22061618 That's not the last book though. The next book is called Scorpio. >Today I can announce that SCORPIO, the first novel in a new series called Frontlines: Evolution, has an official release date: November 14, 2023

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 08:49:10 2023 No.22061816 >>22059858 In 2023 they're completely logical. Plenty of adult people never had sex.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 09:06:00 2023 No.22061847 I expected to really hate Titus Awakes but it wasn't bad. I did not anticipate such a sad book.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 09:17:19 2023 No.22061870 The Deep filtered me hard. I did not expect a 170-odd page novel to be such a difficult read. Anything else by this dude worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 09:50:37 2023 No.22061928 >>22061754 Oh wait what, interesting, still he wasted 6 books worth, it could have been condensed into a trilogy, such a waste

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 09:52:58 2023 No.22061936 >>22061870 how? don't say the character names like the GR reviews

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 10:10:00 2023 No.22061989 >>22061422 Is this the original Appendix N?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 10:11:16 2023 No.22061995 >>22061465 Tiffany Aching / wee free men storyline

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 10:16:06 2023 No.22062009 >Tolkien is a le fascist! Bravo, China, bravo

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