/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22039264]

Yeah, I fell for the meme and I read it... Well the guy has a good point not gonna lie, not so sure as having children now.

[Anonymous No.22039289]

Kill yourself, hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.22039295]

>too broke and unattractive to have a good-looking wife and many kids
>uh yeah it’s uh because of philosophical stuff

If life were bad then antinatalists would support euthanizing kids and killing as many people as possible

[Anonymous No.22040260]

>>22039289
>>22039295
Why do you people always think that anti-natalism is about death?
Not coming into being is not death. The fact that you can be killed and will die regardless is just part of the absurdity and cruelty.
Telling someone to kill themselves is an aggressive reflex from your death terror.

[Anonymous No.22040270]

>>22039295
>too broke and unattractive to have a good-looking wife and many kids
and yet the brokest, ugliest people are the ones shitting out the most kids

[Anonymous No.22040291]

>>22040260
Because the propoents of it are literally mentally ill rejects projecting their personality disorders onto the world and acting like the butthurt little bitches they are whenever someone gives them a reason to fuck off with their sadsack shit. They're the /lit/ equivalent of emo kids.

[Anonymous No.22040342]

>>22040270
as a anon living in a third-world, I can confirm. arrange marriage is a blessing for ugly fags. even tho I'm an incel, my parents will find me a good wife and would want some grand-kids from me lol.

[Anonymous No.22040413]

>>22039264
I try not to read books by Jews if I can help it

[Anonymous No.22041881]

>>22039295
Life is POTENTIALLY bad not universally bad. You probably can raise a child who will lead a long and happy life, but you also could raise one who dies in a world war. You shouldn’t roll odds on other’s lives, it’s selfish. No one is harmed by not being born but a great many billion have been harmed by being born.

[Anonymous No.22041896]

>>22040291
Yeah, you're just expressing death anxiety, like the other poster said.

[Anonymous No.22041923]

>>22039264
I wish I'd never been born. Life is so miserable. I wish I could kill myself.

[Anonymous No.22041962]

>>22041923
Confession

[Anonymous No.22042068]

>>22039264
This is one of those works that make you question whether philosophy just mental masturbation. I can't refute antinatalism but against my intuition I know it's bullshit, and that's all that's need to be said.

[Anonymous No.22042207]

>>22040342
As an anon from the third world, i can't confirm. Arranged marriage isn't a popular thing anymore here. Ugly man could not get pretty woman, ugly woman could not get handsome man. The solution? Both ugly man and ugly woman commit a romantic relationship and then get into marriage.

I know this by observing my social circles. When the less interesting person wants a companion, he or she tries lowering his or her standard.

[Anonymous No.22042233]

Nah dude fuck it have children have like 30 of them if you don't muslim subhumans will

Antinatalists should be the ones having children. Make the sacrifice.

Death has sanctified life. Literally zero consequences for having children

[Anonymous No.22042258]

I cannot understand a point of arguing with antinatalists.
My children will inherit the world, theirs will not. My children will potentially spread my culture, theirs will not spread their culture.

[Anonymous No.22042281]

>>22041896
>death anxiety
Go listen to Blood on the Dancefloor you projecting emo faggot. I'll bet you've never even been in a room with someone whose dying.

[Anonymous No.22042296]

>>22039264
Get the fuck off my board you mentally ill retard. This your 50th thread. Kys already

[Anonymous No.22042309]

>>22039264
>implying you're not the same faggot who has been spamming this thread for the last 2 months

[Anonymous No.22042334]

>>22040260
"Anti-natalism" is not about anything. It's just an analytic continuation of lexical negative utilitarianism which is a batshit worldview full of obvious holes that requires an unhealthy amount of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance just to be made theoretically coherent, let alone to become a framework that can actively inform someone's life. The reason people leap to killing and suicide is because it's the shortest path to expose the myriad ad hoc ackshuallies and schizoid non-sequiturs that hold together your FOMO colossus on clay feet.

[Anonymous No.22042679]

Breeders reproduce mostly out of pride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeN2RRR3xQ

[Anonymous No.22042684]

>>22042679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OlsIZb31Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnnOhZuny_M

[Anonymous No.22042691]

>>22042679
tldr on this guy?

[Anonymous No.22043137]

>>22042679
Bummer he offed himself
Would have loved to fuck him and cuddle and explain why in LW agentic terms that he's probably not actually in a simulation
But that's what schizo brains do, they can't help assigning meaning to everything until reality gets too complicated and you break.

[Anonymous No.22043145]

>>22042691
narcissistic wacko who killed himself

[Anonymous No.22043156]

>>22039264
AGI is probably going to kill us all sometime in the next 20 years. Maybe if I survive (presumably the human condition is much better if we have aligned AGI) I'll have kids

[Anonymous No.22043164]

You let another man tell you what to do with your life? That sounds pretty homosexual to me buddy.

[Anonymous No.22043330]

>>22043137
>explain why in LW agentic terms that he's probably not actually in a simulation
Redpill me in LW agentic terms on why we don't live in a simulation

[Anonymous No.22043347]

>>22040270
Yes because they don’t think or care about the misery of being stuck in a union with of paying child support to an ugly personal and tearing kids in poverty. People who are fearful of that put it off until they have the means and those with looks are typically more selective about whom they commit to. No doubt most antinatalists would not be so if they could have â beautiful wife and easily afford a family

[Anonymous No.22043902]

>>22042068
I feel this way but my intuition is the opposite, so what now? I've nver wanted kids, never saw myself as having a family, and as I got older it just really dawned on me how wrong it is.

[Anonymous No.22044648]

>>22042207
fake and hetero

[Anonymous No.22044705]

>>22042068
It gets refuted every time this same faggot makes this same thread. There's an interview Benatar did where he had a breakdown walking through a park on a nice sunny day with families around him. He raised his voice to the interviewer and pretty much started crying, kek. The guy is unstable and in the same interview he admitted his ideas cause harm (but it's ok because it's academic and only people who want to hear it will seek it out--guess he conveniently ignores his ideas attract mentally ill rejects with personality disorders who sperg his nonsense over and over to anyone and everyone). And yes, it's been studied and proven that people who champion antinatalism are likely to have mental illnesses and personality disorders. They're hardly the people you'd want standing as an authority when it comes to "quality of life." On top of all that you have the fact Benatar's arguments can be shown to be logically consistent with moral absurdities and all antinatalist can do is demand you agree their thesis is about reducing harm. Fuck, even the WikiHow on antinatalism is mostly devoted to telling them not to be annoying fuckheads, kek.

[Anonymous No.22044939]

>>22044648
Okay homo.

[Anonymous No.22045636]

>>22039264
Great to see eugenics in action.

[Anonymous No.22045662]

>>22039264
anti-natalism because of principles or whatever this book talks about is retarded, I don't want kids because kids are gay

[Anonymous No.22045842]

>>22045662
When I was about 17 years old, I already knew that it is wrong to have children. And I didn't even know antinatalism existed.

[Anonymous No.22045863]

>>22039264
The moral thing to do is to not only kill oneself - that is selfish - but to kill all those one loves, to spare them too the pain of existence. A good man will kill his parents, his siblings, his wife, and his children, if ever he was foolish enough to have any. A better man will love more than his immediate family, and will seek to kill many more - not only humans, but any life form capable of experiencing and hating pain. It is not realistic to expect that a single person can do this great deed of absolute murder, and so our aim should be to encourage as many as we can to see the value of ending all suffering. One day, I hope, our species will collectively decide to end all life everywhere, on this planet and on others, destroying to such a point that no life will ever exist again.

[Anonymous No.22046417]

>>22039264
Hmm...

[Anonymous No.22046431]

>>22046417
Oh, that explains it.

[Anonymous No.22047157]

>>22039264
>an incel board? i need to convince them not to have sex!
hmm

[Anonymous No.22047648]

bump

[Anonymous No.22047726]

>>22043347
>blah blah blah I'm a retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.22047792]

>>22043330
I second this

[Anonymous No.22047814]

>>22039264
Now read Christine Overall's book Why Have Children.

[Anonymous No.22048406]

>>22039264
Anti-natalists are retards because they ignore that by the time an organism reaches the state of development necessary to contemplate the tediousness of existence its already too late. Life just keeps pushing forward regardless of how you feel about it. You can stop having children, some bug will just do it for you.

I don't kill myself because I want to be sure I kill the soul when I go and I'm not confident that death can do that but I am hopeful some action within life can.

[Anonymous No.22048418]

>>22039264
where was that background picture taken? it looks like new mexico or arizona

[Anonymous No.22048779]

>>22042691
Insecure autistic weeb who almost made it beyond pseud but an heroed instead.