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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Tue May 9 19:26:46 2023 No.22011738 [Reply] [Original]

/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 19:30:21 2023 No.22011749 /litrpg/ general >>22010612

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 19:32:18 2023 No.22011755 >>22011749 why are you shilling so hard for something no one wants?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 19:33:18 2023 No.22011758 >>22011755 >>22010612

>>	sage Tue May 9 19:34:51 2023 No.22011760 File: 119 KB, 583x482, 1559553918450.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22011738 Trash edition by shitty coomer

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 19:35:14 2023 No.22011765 >>22011760 Dumb fucking frogposter

Anonymous Tue May 9 19:36:39 2023 No.22011772

>>22011738
cant wait to go to bookstore tomorrow so i can flirt with that wench lady, allow her to take my money and still just leave with only books and spilled spagetti.
one time she had to search around the store for a book, it was boxed somewhere.
and i admit, when she bent over, ass up on full display, i just stared deeply into the curvy crevis, no shame.

Anonymous Tue May 9 19:37:07 2023 No.22011774
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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 19:45:30 2023 No.22011813 >>22011772 Ok

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 20:05:25 2023 No.22011879 File: 51 KB, 419x444, 20110725-beta.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can anyone tell me the difference between fantasy and youth fantasy? i see too many youtubes talking about youth fantasy shit on my feed

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 20:12:17 2023 No.22011902 File: 1.27 MB, 1920x1080, 1679415345209146.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22011879 >youtubes talking it's nothing then just don't even pay attention. Get off the internet. Go read R A Lafferty

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 21:01:49 2023 No.22012041 File: 231 KB, 480x491, 1681474851297160.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help a faggot out, bros. Any recs for a father/child(ren) driven story? I've already gone through the Witcher.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 21:23:47 2023 No.22012100 File: 125 KB, 1366x425, MV5BZGQ3ZTczYjItMzY5My00NmE1LWJlZWYtNzM2N2I1Yjg1ZWNkXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyTA1_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22012041 Between Two Faggots

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 21:36:03 2023 No.22012138 >>22011774 reading Hyperion now, is dan Simmons really bad at writing dialogue or does everyone on Hyperion have Aspergers?

Anonymous Tue May 9 22:03:57 2023 No.22012228

Just finished the first law trilogy and was quite disappointed with the author's inability to write a convincing setting or large battle. I'm a little discouraged by the fantasy genre after dropping Spellmonger due to terrible editing before this but maybe I just had bad luck in my book choices.
I did enjoy BoTNS so maybe I'll give another Wolfe story a try.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 22:06:10 2023 No.22012239 >>22012138 i really don't understand why this book is recommended so much, especially due to how people say the following books aren't good.

Anonymous Tue May 9 22:57:35 2023 No.22012404
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>>22011755
presumably so that in a thread or two he can start telling people here "you're not allowed to talk about that here go to the appropriate thread" whenever he sees a post about a book he doesn't like

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 22:59:32 2023 No.22012408 >>22012404 Cool so let's make a dying earth general, and while we're at it I don't like all this sci-fi being talked about here let's just make a sci-fi general, and fantasy romance probably should have its own too.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:05:28 2023 No.22012427 >>22012138 Hyperion is shit and the sequels are even shittier. Literally the only thing it has going for it is some of the imagery in the first book. I remember getting tricked into reading it back in the day and what a waste of time.

Anonymous Tue May 9 23:08:16 2023 No.22012438
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speaking of dying earth, I believe I finished my collection but I need help to know if I missed anything. I'm sure there are an obscure work or two you guys can recommend. Here is the list if photo sucks.

The Nightland
Awake in the Nightland
The Dying Earth
The Eyes of the Overworld
Cugel’s Saga
Rhialto the Marvellous
Songs of the Dying Earth
A Quest for Simbilis
Nifft the Lean
Gullible’s Travels (Fools Errant/Fool Me Twice)
Dark is the Sun
Zothique
The Last Continent: New tales of Zothique
The Pastel City
A Storm of Wings
In Viriconium
Viriconium Nights
An Alien Heat
The Hollow Lands
The End of all Songs
The Shattered Goddess
Book of the New Sun 1-4
Urth of the New Sun
The Castle of the Otter
Planet Engineering
The Book of the Long Sun 1-4
The Book of the Short Sun 1-3

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:18:54 2023 No.22012466 >>22011738 Anyone here heard of the Xanth books? I found the audiobook version of the full set and gotten through the first two but I am wondering if it gets better, or at least good enough to justify listening to 13 or so books.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:20:24 2023 No.22012468 >>22011738 ok, rec me something with this aesthetic please

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:22:16 2023 No.22012474 >>22012466 No, the first couple set the tone for the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:27:32 2023 No.22012492 >>22012438 >The Shattered Goddess any good? I loved The Mask of the Sorcerer

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:32:11 2023 No.22012503 >>22012468 Wandering Inn

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:36:17 2023 No.22012521 File: 85 KB, 500x500, 8407329685_a546ba9fa0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >waiting for Horus Heresy to get back in print

Anonymous Tue May 9 23:36:52 2023 No.22012524
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Anyone know of any SciFi/Fantasy office drama? I need some soul crushed, burnt out, the system works kino but with enough speculative fiction DNA to still be interesting. Stuff like Frank Herbert's Whipping Star was close but if anyone knows of something leaning more towards fantasy I'd be all ears.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:56:10 2023 No.22012577 >>22012503 >litrpg shit serious or joking

>>	Anonymous Tue May 9 23:56:15 2023 No.22012578 File: 95 KB, 557x605, SevNice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22012438 >Dying Earth collection

Anonymous Tue May 9 23:57:24 2023 No.22012584

>>22012438
>speaking of dying earth, I believe I finished my collection but I need help to know if I missed anything. I'm sure there are an obscure work or two you guys can recommend. Here is the list if photo sucks.
>
>The Nightland
>Awake in the Nightland
>The Dying Earth
>The Eyes of the Overworld
>Cugel’s Saga
>Rhialto the Marvellous
>Songs of the Dying Earth
>A Quest for Simbilis
>Nifft the Lean
>Gullible’s Travels (Fools Errant/Fool Me Twice)
>Dark is the Sun
>Zothique
>The Last Continent: New tales of Zothique
>The Pastel City
>A Storm of Wings
>In Viriconium
>Viriconium Nights
>An Alien Heat
>The Hollow Lands
>The End of all Songs
>The Shattered Goddess
>Book of the New Sun 1-4
>Urth of the New Sun
>The Castle of the Otter
>Planet Engineering
>The Book of the Long Sun 1-4
>The Book of the Short Sun 1-3

Anonymous Tue May 9 23:58:48 2023 No.22012588

>>22012041
Book of the Short Sun. The protagonist not only has a wife and three sons, he also has an aging father, stepbrothers and stepsisters. By the end, he also gets daughters-in-law.
Endymion has some wild adoptive family schemes. Farnha's Freehold has an interesting dynamic between a pinko son and a libertarian father set in post-apocalypse. Radix is a novel about a human father and a mutant son.
>>22012438
Supreme taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:01:47 2023 No.22012597 >>22012577 >only serious magical rogue girls, pls

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:07:03 2023 No.22012615 >>22012597 I'm willing to give it a chance. its free. is a magical rogue girl the protag?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:07:29 2023 No.22012619 >>22012438 saved for future use you should add it to the mega

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:09:01 2023 No.22012623 >>22012615 Not really. I dropped it. I just found your comment funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:31:01 2023 No.22012674 >>22012438 Shadows of the New Sun: Stories in Honor of Gene Wolfe Songs of the Dying Earth: Stories in Honour of Jack Vance

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:34:05 2023 No.22012684 Is TJ Klune worth reading or is it just gayshit?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:36:17 2023 No.22012691 >>22012438 I see you put Songs of the Dying Earth. There's also Shadows of the New Sun: Stories in Honor of Gene Wolfe. I haven't read it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:37:30 2023 No.22012695 >>22012438 where the fucking fuck did you get a physical copy of The Last Continent New tales of Zothique

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:39:23 2023 No.22012704 >>22012588 >dubs Based answer, thank you - love me a family man with plenty of sons. Will check these out after I'm through BotNS. Any additional suggestions with a father and his daughter(s)? That dynamic is comfy too.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 00:43:43 2023 No.22012717 File: 52 KB, 722x425, Gamera-vs-Godzilla.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there anything good with giant monsters? Even if it's a little bit pulpy?

Anonymous Wed May 10 01:23:38 2023 No.22012834
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Asking yet again. Has anyone here read this series? Been watching the show and just found out it's a book series. I don't mind the show but I might ditch it and pick up these.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 01:43:15 2023 No.22012873 >>22012834 i dont know the name of the show or the series

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 01:44:51 2023 No.22012878 >>22012717 Cradle? A bunch of xianxia do feature gigantic dragons, phoenixes and the like.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 01:45:19 2023 No.22012880 >>22012834 Warosu.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 01:56:14 2023 No.22012908 i have freed this general from shitrpg tyranny I am its savior

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:01:53 2023 No.22012919 >>22012695 >Only copy I can find is $1600 Wtf why

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:03:32 2023 No.22012928 >>22012908 No but you have freed it from harem posting, let's hope those shitheads never come back.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:06:19 2023 No.22012938 DCC 6 is supposed to be finished by the end of May. Anyone reading the patreon content? On kemono of course. I read part one and I'm waiting for the thing to be finished before continuining. It's easily my favorite litRPG.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:12:34 2023 No.22012952 >>22012908 24 replies in 12 hours. Its going to die soon. Nobody wants litrpg as a separate thread.

Anonymous Wed May 10 02:14:20 2023 No.22012955

>>22012952
>24 replies in 12 hours
Good
>>22012952
>Its going to die soon
I'd rather have a slow thread than one full of internet addled autistic globohomo shitrpg reading zoomers
>Nobody wants litrpg as a separate thread
I do, and most genuine people in this thread do
I am this threads savior

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:20:19 2023 No.22012969 kek it's the antireviewfag WOW what a surprise

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:23:42 2023 No.22012978 >>22012969 Go back to your general, litrpgfag

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:28:08 2023 No.22012990 Dungeon Cuck Carl is trash, pls stop talking about it here, no one cares, the author is a hack, carl is a cuck

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:29:55 2023 No.22012998 >>22012908 >>22012952 >>22012955 oh yeah start acting like a obnoxius kid :) dont cry when theres 500 posts under 1 hour every thread

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:37:10 2023 No.22013018 >>22012990 Already optioned by hollywood and the author is a massive success. But anon hates it so who should we believe ...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 02:37:52 2023 No.22013023 >>22012998 Litrpgfags really are seething pretty sad

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 03:45:46 2023 No.22013237 >>22013018 harry potter is also loved worldwide, doesnt change the fact that is trash monke cant even make a good argument

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 03:57:30 2023 No.22013270 >>22013237 Rowling may not be the greatest writer to ever live she's certainly not a bad one either. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it trash. But hey, you do you.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:01:41 2023 No.22013284 File: 463 KB, 820x1312, dcc 6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >samefagging to bump the thread after an hour Here's the cover for DCC 6. Please discuss books in the book thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:18:45 2023 No.22013321 File: 886 KB, 1050x1378, phb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22012695 Hippocampus have a selection of Zothique tales for $20. Or do you mean that edition? >>22011738 Is there anything good from this list?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:29:32 2023 No.22013346 >>22013321 No.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:38:27 2023 No.22013365 File: 495 KB, 1920x2560, 1658883113782044.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BORN TO SING CONSULT IS A FUCK 鬼神 Kill Em All 4132 Year-of-the-Tusk I am Mandati Man 478,638,637,782 CULLED SRANC

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:45:03 2023 No.22013378 File: 968 KB, 738x743, DUNC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These are some of my favorite covers. They're just so clean looking.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:50:03 2023 No.22013385 >>22013378 Too bad the only good book is the first one

Anonymous Wed May 10 04:51:12 2023 No.22013389
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>Often the publishing house will accidentally get the cover art wrong. In this case they expended great effort to make sure they got it completely fucking wrong.
t. Poul Anderson

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 04:53:02 2023 No.22013391 >>22013385 God Emperor is right there

Anonymous Wed May 10 05:07:47 2023 No.22013414

>>22013391
That book blows, man. What do you like about it? The God emperor is spewing out monologues about the themes we experienced in the first 3 books. There's nothing interesting the universe explored in that book. it hugely ignored the possibilities Herbert could have used in this world to make it an actual decent read. Nothing happens. The rebellion plot line is abandoned quickly, and it takes the character in it to basically set up Heretics, which most people don't read anyways. I think God Emperor is overrated as hell by fans.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 05:33:14 2023 No.22013457 >>22012438 I think The Deep would qualify. I know Moorcock wrote a novel titled something like the City at the Edge of Time that might fit. The Time Machine is pretty dying earth too now that I think of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 05:36:13 2023 No.22013465 >>22013365 Based

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 05:44:06 2023 No.22013479 File: 118 KB, 894x648, dragons dragons and more dragons.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone gave me a fuckload of books from the Dragonriders of Pern series for my birthday recently. Are they good? What am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 05:56:28 2023 No.22013500 >The Prince of Nothing why so much gay in here? teacher gey loving students, father gey stuff with son. like wtf?

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 06:30:48 2023 No.22013570 >>22012474 I will give one more a shot but if it's more of the same I will drop the series.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 06:43:13 2023 No.22013591 >>22013500 women are slaves and prostitutes to higher caste men so men who cannot find themselves a woman embrace a man instead

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 06:46:53 2023 No.22013594 >>22013591 thats..... gay

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 06:59:04 2023 No.22013627 >>22013591 Ah, so it's Gor, but gay.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 07:17:36 2023 No.22013664 File: 24 KB, 297x475, AlongTheRazordsEdge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Read the war eternal series. And no, it isn't YA.

Anonymous Wed May 10 07:39:22 2023 No.22013732
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This is the horniest book I've ever read, what the fuck. There's awkward sexual tension in every chapter and the full blown sex scenes are grotesque, weird and jarring. I couldn't imagine reading this as a virgin.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 07:40:57 2023 No.22013738 >>22013479 dragons and no sex

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 07:43:46 2023 No.22013741 File: 191 KB, 310x379, rob.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22013664 >why yes i self publish and shill the book on /sffg/ as often as i can

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 07:46:42 2023 No.22013753 >>22013732 You should read some JG Ballard sometime, that guy was a true freak.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 07:47:04 2023 No.22013755 >>22013741 I'm not the author anon, but I am recommending the series because it is good.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 07:54:39 2023 No.22013775 >>22013732 SFF is an erotic genre.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 08:10:56 2023 No.22013806 >>22013775 It's not. Fuck off to the new haremlit general and don't come back.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 08:21:44 2023 No.22013829 >>22013806 I actually came into the thread to ask if anyone has read Cookie Monster by Vernor Vinge, but assumed nobody would have and made a joke instead. Why you mad?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 08:49:08 2023 No.22013873 What is some good modern Sci-Fi? I'm interested in RF Kuang but am worried she'll have that clinical and boring world building certain American authors have and it'll just be a dumb vehicle for colonialism and racism bad lol. Am I wrong?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 09:11:47 2023 No.22013900 >>22012438 THE SHELF THAT SAVED /SFFG/

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 09:13:12 2023 No.22013905 >>22013457 >The Deep This filtered me quite hard. I found it difficult to follow.

Anonymous Wed May 10 09:20:13 2023 No.22013914
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>Aurang posessing Esme
>Akka wakes up to Kellhus' manipulation technique but he just pushes through his awareness and brings out his childhood trauma

That was some fucking WILD shit. Now I'm fully on board on the Bakker train. This is probably the most transgressive series in the entire dark fantasy genre that's not a self-published fanfic or weird shit for the sake for being weird. This is the American Psycho of fantasy. Bakker is truly out there as a writer.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 09:41:17 2023 No.22013949 >>22013873 Expanse books

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 09:47:06 2023 No.22013961 >>22013949 I've already watched the show, maybe I'll give it a go but I would like something even more modern but more fantasy if possible (didn't mean to write sci-fi before)

Anonymous Wed May 10 10:33:49 2023 No.22014035
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>>22013753
I have Vermilion Sands but haven't read it yet. Isn't his writing innately sordid and sexual though? Like that's kind of the point of it? Silverberg just throws in these weird unnecessary sexual interjections throughout A Time of Changes that interrupt the flow of what's happening. It's thoughtful and fairly plodding, then there's someone having an earth-shattering orgasm, then it's back on track.
Yes, I can understand that the character is a sexual, liberal being in a clandestine, pent-up society, but how many times do I need to be reminded about how many people he's fucked, or how many 'clammy puddles' he's jizzed, or how much he wants to bang his bondsister, or how hairy and virile and well-hung he is? Which, btw, is made even weirder when you consider how Silverberg looked back then and how the main character is described as having a beard, long hair, dark eyes etc.

Anonymous Wed May 10 10:42:10 2023 No.22014046

>>22014035
>Isn't his writing innately sordid and sexual though?
Not always. Although Ballard is famous for sordid novels, his career had different phases and that was the second one. Can't speak to Vermilion Sands, I'm sure it has some sex scenes in it, but he wrote it as pure speculative fiction - trying to accurately imagine what the future would be like.

Anonymous Wed May 10 10:54:10 2023 No.22014061

>>22013385
Messiah is best.
It's got the most tense writing and atmosphere, and the gut punch that drives at the heart of what Herbert is trying to say with the series.
Most who are disappointed with it weren't paying attention while reading the original.

Anonymous Wed May 10 11:06:21 2023 No.22014088

>>22014035
>Silverberg just throws in these weird unnecessary sexual interjections throughout A Time of Changes that interrupt the flow of what's happening.
Silverberg might be particularly odious, he also wrote many porn novels for money, but this sort of thing is relatively quite normal. He wrote it at the turn of the decade in 1970, nobody was going to bat an eye at themes of sexual liberation.

Anonymous Wed May 10 11:09:29 2023 No.22014093

I'm enjoying Jack Vance a lot.

I'm happy with what I have but I don't know what options I have after this. Are there comparable authors in terms of world building and comedy? Because his understanted absurdity and ridicule is probable the thing I love the most.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 11:10:29 2023 No.22014096 >>22013385 The basic hero story? Well, at least you can be happy that you have unlimited books with the same appeal.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 11:17:20 2023 No.22014112 anyone has know of good anti-hero novels where he actually wins and takes over the kingdom/world/universe?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 13:00:00 2023 No.22014285 >>22013664 NTA but if this isn't good you're gettting it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 13:12:29 2023 No.22014313 Who is the most unique and interesting POV in scif-fi/fantasy and why is it Karsa Orlong?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 13:20:40 2023 No.22014335 >>22014112 War For The Rose Throne

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 13:31:11 2023 No.22014364 >>22014285 You can have my cummies anon :)

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 13:47:24 2023 No.22014420 File: 737 KB, 404x687, frazetta.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sword & sorcery is so fuckin based http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0600831h.html

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 15:22:47 2023 No.22014703 Why does goodreads export-to-Excel function not work properly and renders a lot of fucky entries?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 15:41:57 2023 No.22014758 >>22014703 I don't know how a company like Amazon can have such low quality web services in general, let alone a solved problem like excel exports not working

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:04:43 2023 No.22014824 >>22014703 It exports to .csv and I assume you mean the characters encodings, especially with the publishers, though also the author names in some case. Other than that it's always worked perfectly fine for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:10:35 2023 No.22014846 >>22014703 Amazon bought the company for the data and then fired 99% of the developers. The site has barely been fixed in 5+ years.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:14:13 2023 No.22014863 >Writer's strike happening meaning TV production stuff is shutting diwn for a while Does this mean we might get Winds quicker since GRRM can't do any TV stuff at the moment? If soI hope it drags on longer

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:16:56 2023 No.22014873 >>22014863 There was a writers strike back in 2004 that affected most tv shows and movies by being delayed for a year.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:17:49 2023 No.22014875 >>22014863 You think he needs a strike as an excuse not to write?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:18:10 2023 No.22014879 >>22014846 It was bought in 2013. 10 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:19:24 2023 No.22014880 >>22014863 >I had a very productive weeks over the Writers Strike everyone! I hope you're all ready for....more Wild Cards!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:20:38 2023 No.22014882 >>22014879 My point still stands.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:22:56 2023 No.22014891 File: 28 KB, 126x285, gay.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22014824 Shit like this is unacceptable.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:29:42 2023 No.22014906 >>22014891 You need to extend the columns anon, they are broken. Excel does that if there isn't enough space to show the content.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:30:32 2023 No.22014910 >>22014906 Oh wow I'm retarded. That goes to show how little I interact with Excel.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:32:17 2023 No.22014917 >>22014910 I only know because I've used excel and seen it happen.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:43:14 2023 No.22014957 >>22013457 How is The Deep dying earth? Isn't it some flat earth alien world?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 16:46:12 2023 No.22014969 >>22012695 Etsy for $250 last year

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Anonymous Wed May 10 16:56:33 2023 No.22015021

>>22014863
I truly pity the fans who still cling to this delusion. I read ASOIAF way back in 2003 because my local library had his books on the recommendations display and I gave them a try. I enjoyed them and read A Feast for Crows when it got published 2 years later, but forgot about them during the 6 year interim for A Dance with Dragons since I was busy with high school and later into college.

Also, how does one get into writing for Hollywood? I'm not gonna quit my day job, but I'm legit curious because I might want to write a screenplay for a movie idea I've been toying with.

Anonymous Wed May 10 16:56:43 2023 No.22015022

Odd question but how do I learn to write? I've always been absolutely terrifed of writing and the only writing I'm good at (and I do for work sometimes) is technical documentation. I'm looking for some book, some course, just some sort of structure that talks about writing in general. I'd got a ton of ideas in my head for fantasy short stories but I don't know where to start.. I don't know anything about character development, world building, prose..just the absolute basics.

Anonymous Wed May 10 16:59:14 2023 No.22015031

>>22015022
just have a story in your head and write it out
it's that simple
you will write it out, it will be shit, if you keep writing you will get better (although i've seen some delusional self published authors who have been writing for years and they're still shit)
there's no books that can help you with this

Anonymous Wed May 10 17:00:46 2023 No.22015038

>>22015022
>>22015031
and ultimately the truth is that you either have it or you don't
the internet is filled with the shitty self published novels of people who think they're good writers who have good ideas and they aren't. it's something you're born with

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:02:48 2023 No.22015045 >>22015031 Not the anon you're responding to, but I've been trying to write for years. My biggest problem is dialogue. I try to avoid forced speeches and convos. I want my characters to speak like normal people do and make it realistic, but it's hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:04:41 2023 No.22015052 >>22015021 you send a spec script and cross your fingers someone will someday read it. And/Or you go around attending classes hoping a teacher will like you enough to hook you up. Those are the two success stories I heard about, both 100% luck.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:06:31 2023 No.22015056 >>22015045 just go somewhere where people are talking and listen to their conversations and most dialogue in books, movies, tv isn't realistic

Anonymous Wed May 10 17:08:17 2023 No.22015064

>>22015045
yeah, it's a bad goal.
Characters don't really speak like real people, real people sound like shit and you're giving up on using dialogue as a way to characterize them. You should aim to make them sound a certain way, something that works with your story. A fantasy story can afford super pompous dialogue because the genre allows it, just like scifi is open to people just throwing around made up jargon. Your characters can sound like they're tripping if that works for the story, or they can just throw single words at each other. Trying to make it sound like real people is both super hard and a waste most of the time.

Anonymous Wed May 10 17:15:47 2023 No.22015087

>>22015052
Hmm, I guess I'll take a shot.

>>22015056
Yeah, I eavesdropped on an occasion and wrote down what they were saying if I found it was good to use. I know it's cheating, but I polish it up within my narrative.

>>22015064
Well in fantasy or science fiction, you can get away with the characters not sounding realistic, but in stuff that's grounded, I want to be able to write something that's poignant, but not too forced.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:20:05 2023 No.22015105 File: 364 KB, 747x941, IMG_20221215_150540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22012955 holy based thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:24:03 2023 No.22015123 File: 3.89 MB, 200x200, 1647799815137.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >self published works is... LE BAD!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:28:16 2023 No.22015138 >>22015123 Most self published works are bad, yes

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:37:27 2023 No.22015164 >>22015123 They are mostly low quality, yes. The publishing industry might be an awful, gate-keeping dinosaur but it does weed out a large amount of incompetents.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 17:53:31 2023 No.22015228 >>22015138 How does one self-publish? I'm so out of the loop of modern trends.

Anonymous Wed May 10 17:55:46 2023 No.22015234

>>22015045
Honestly, it's best if you have your characters just sound like characters. Try to avoid too many characters sounding similar in their dialogue, that's how you get a very homogenised-feeling cast. Try to avoid too many lines that are just "plot talk" without any characterisation involved, for example.
Exposition is the biggest offender here, people will have their characters drop all their personality to blandly deliver information, when you could dress that up in some way. Have it be delivered in a very 'from-a-textbook' way by somebody who's bored of having to explain it. Have it be delivered in a very hyperactive way by somebody's excited to explain it. Have it be only vaguely explained in confusing contradictory ways by somebody who didn't pay enough attention, but they're the only one who knows anything. Stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:04:14 2023 No.22015279 thanks writing bros.. I'm just gonna write!!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:10:42 2023 No.22015307 >>22015022 >>>/wg/

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:25:37 2023 No.22015376 >>22015307 thank you but I like to stick to a plain black wallpaper

Anonymous Wed May 10 18:36:47 2023 No.22015448

>>22015228
>How does one self-publish? I'm so out of the loop of modern trends.
Amazon, mostly. Optionally ordering print of your own books by doing most of the job and then selling them directly either through a website or straight to customers physicaly.
But overwhelming majority just uses Amazon because it's basically free.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:37:59 2023 No.22015455 >>22014917 It threw me off considering some of the date values were fine, so I thought the entire thing was fucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:41:38 2023 No.22015478 >>22015448 I see. And how do I market these books?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:50:26 2023 No.22015535 >>22012908 >>22012952 add chinkshit as well

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 18:54:11 2023 No.22015549 >>22012908 >>22012952 add female authors and works that have female main characters as welll

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 19:21:59 2023 No.22015684 >/sffg/ with litrpg fags posting >full of autists arguing >/sffg/ without lirpg fags posting >is comfy, good conversation i deserve a thank you for saving this general

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 19:45:11 2023 No.22015746 File: 3.38 MB, 1920x1080, 1679487355368882.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22013365 I would buy this shirt.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 19:45:43 2023 No.22015748 >>22014335 ima check out

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 20:13:11 2023 No.22015858 File: 176 KB, 556x790, 1591233561255.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22015549 >>22015535 >>22015684 Bless you all Maybe sffg can be great again

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 20:43:32 2023 No.22015970 >>22013914 >the honey of unwashed man anus

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 21:37:08 2023 No.22016149 I'm like 800 pages into Dance and it's getting to the point where I'm dreading Dany chapters. When does something moderately interesting happen bc it feels like essentially nothing of real consequence has happened yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 10 22:03:45 2023 No.22016237 It's amazing how much worse Abercrombie gets with every book. Except for The Heroes, it was decent before the garbage ending.

Anonymous Wed May 10 22:15:34 2023 No.22016274

>>22014093
The Lankhmar series by Fritz Leiber is a fun collection of swashbuckling stories with witty humor.
There's also Nifft the Lean by Michael Shea, who also wrote A Quest for Simbilis, a Cugel pastiche.
And then there's also Matthew Huges who writes a lot of Vance pastiches.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 01:04:49 2023 No.22016856 Looking for fantasy short story collections; I can find plenty of sci-fi ones but barely any of those

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 01:12:01 2023 No.22016877 >>22016856 Collections by a single author can be found by looking which fantasy author you want to read has them. Anthologies, by many authors, can be found by looking at lists of them. If you need to be spoonfeed let me know.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 01:30:33 2023 No.22016929 File: 407 KB, 499x826, morda-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22011738 hey i look like that

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 01:31:20 2023 No.22016930 >>22016856 The Dying Earth

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 02:37:33 2023 No.22017169 >>22016856 >pastiche Swords and Dark Magic, We are all Legends

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 02:41:37 2023 No.22017184 >>22017169 >We are all Legends great book, incredibly overlooked, i feel like i'm the only bloke whose ever read it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 02:43:42 2023 No.22017191 File: 2.07 MB, 1374x1978, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is Sword of Kaigen?

Anonymous Thu May 11 03:02:58 2023 No.22017262

>>22017184
Darrell Schweitzer is the most overlooked fantasy writer as also >>22012492 can tell you.
He wrote The Mask of the Sorcerer, which might be the best single volume about shadow wizard money gangs. And because no one cares about him you can even talk to him on ebay he sells all the books on there and signs them. Nice guy.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 03:04:29 2023 No.22017266 >>22011774 I thought Between Two Fires was just awful.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 03:08:15 2023 No.22017278 >>22017191 Click on view activity where you saw it saw and search in the archive. Or, wait and hope someone here replies.

Anonymous Thu May 11 03:08:57 2023 No.22017283
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>>22017262
>And because no one cares about him you can even talk to him on ebay he sells all the books on there and signs them.
This is simultaneously awesome and disappointing

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>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 03:50:15 2023 No.22017400 >>22013914 You ain't seen nothing yet

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 03:51:57 2023 No.22017403 >>22014093 Gormenghast

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 03:55:42 2023 No.22017419 >>22014957 It's got the same vibes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 04:05:02 2023 No.22017438 File: 385 KB, 1890x2048, 1683777856432.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22017364 One of the most popular scifi/fantasy booktubers is a right winger from Texas.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 04:15:44 2023 No.22017463 Thoughts on Old Man's War novels? Been thinking about maybe checking them out and their audiobooks.

Anonymous Thu May 11 04:18:18 2023 No.22017470

>>22013479
>dragonriders of pern
>what am I in for
a shocking amount of sex (as a core, indivisible plot point in most of the books no less). The dragons are psychically bonded with their riders, and when they mate their riders end up fucking each other in what is basically an orgy. Also certain colors of dragon bond with certain personality archetypes of humans.

It was enough to get teenage me to read nearly the entire series.

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>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 04:53:40 2023 No.22017570 >>22017463 good books

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 04:54:06 2023 No.22017571 >>22011765 Sexy "dumb fucking frogposter" poser

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 06:29:55 2023 No.22017756 >>22017571 Post your boobs

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 06:33:20 2023 No.22017765 >>22017756 You show me yours and I'll show you mine.

Anonymous Thu May 11 06:44:39 2023 No.22017782
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>>22013479
I finished the 7 book long Pern series last year. I found it to be overall entertaining, but there were some hiccups.

The read order is: Dragonflight > Dragonquest > Dragonsong > Dragonsinger > Dragondrummer > The White Dragon > All the Weyrs of Pern.

I went into the first book led to believe that it would be about dragonriders fighting aliens. Turns out that it's they're just incinerating rain, and there are hardly any combat sequences in the series. Still enjoyed it, though.

Book 2 was probably my favorite since it had the most tension, ie conflict.

Book 3 (Dragonsong) was okay. Book 4 (Dragonsinger) was very boring and took me a few weeks to get through.

The last three books (Dragondrummer, the White Dragon, and All the Weyrs of Pern) are uneven. They have stretches where there is a lot of tension and I'm on the edge of my seat, staying up late at night flipping through the pages to find out what happens next. And then there are also boring moments. They also soured me on one of the main characters (Master Robinton) and I started rooting for the antagonists to succeed.

All of the Weyrs of Pern was a satisfying ending. I would advise not googling anything about Pern so you can avoid spoilers.

Overall enjoyed the series. A couple years ago I threw out a lot of books when I realized I would never reread them (Warcraft, Warhammer 40k, Dragonlance, etc), but I've decided to keep Pern. I might reread them in a few years.

>>22017470
>a shocking amount of sex
Not really. It's all offscreen and only happens maybe like 5 times across 2,000 pages (once in book 1, once in book 2, once in Dragondrummer, and then twice in the White Dragon). You will be very disappointed if you want titillating sex scenes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 07:04:05 2023 No.22017815 >>22014285 So did you read it?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 07:24:47 2023 No.22017873 >>22012466 That whole series is the author's fetish. It takes place in fucking Florida. Why would you expect it to change?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 07:52:42 2023 No.22017942 >>22012438 Dying of the light by Martin can be considered dying earth?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 09:36:01 2023 No.22018108 >>22017470 Thanks. Sounds like some liberal lgbt trash, I won't be reading it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 10:35:56 2023 No.22018185 Does Silverbergs bibliography have anything good besides Dying Inside?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 11:17:02 2023 No.22018256 I used to like trad fantasy and sci-fi now i like Lit-rpg and the occasional xianxia. Can anyone recommend me new worthwhile books in the a fore mentioned genres that will cure me of this?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 11:30:13 2023 No.22018276 /sffg/ reigns supreme.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 11:42:06 2023 No.22018302 >>22018256 Purgatory Mount for sci-fi. It dabbles in trad themes. The Lies of Locke Lamora is a fun caper-fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 12:34:22 2023 No.22018450 I got my first first (actually second) edition Silmarillion for $2 bucks in near perfect condition Feels good man Love the fold out map Now I have 4 copies of the Silmarillion, 3 paperback and 1 hardback and I haven't even read it yet

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 12:37:33 2023 No.22018457 >>22018450 M-MUST CONSOOOM

Anonymous Thu May 11 12:43:47 2023 No.22018475

>>22018457
I can't help myself
My first edition was new in paperback and I spent $20 on it
The next 3 were all used and cost me $1-$3 each, at that price point why not consume?
It's not like the next guy at the shelf is some kid who loves Tolkien, it's going to be some guy scanning the books looking for to flip them on ebay

Anonymous Thu May 11 13:07:01 2023 No.22018546

Someone from the last thread asked if anyone read Arthur Machen and I'd just like to ask - are you kidding me?! I love Ol' Blimey!

In all seriousness I first started reading him last fall and plan on finishing up most of the rest this coming horror season. Upon reading I found his prose has a certain pleasing quality to it that gives a unique effect when combined with the horrific atmosphere of his works. One thing that struck me early on is how proto-Lovecraftian some of his work is. There is one story in particular which may have been the first cosmic horror ever written, and he also has this focus on things like antique buildings, objects and history. Apparently Machen had a real fascination with old London in particular. And this isn't to say Lovecraft ripped him off btw. I really like him as well and I think he matured into his own thing in the latter half of his works, and he does I believe mention being inspired by Machen in his essay on the horror genre.

Another thing I'd like to point out is if you enjoy his Little People stories I know Karl Edward Wagner wrote a couple stories like that set in Appalachia and the South. He is best known for his Kane stories and is imo the second best S&S writer behind Howard.

Finally check out this channel if you like - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B4S_Kfq3L8 he is a soft-spoken English bookshop owner and collects Machen books and he has a little series speaking on this with a certain comfy ASMR quality.

Anonymous Thu May 11 13:07:58 2023 No.22018550
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Here's the amount of readers of specific fantasy and SF books taken straight from the japanese equivalent of Goodreads, in order from the most popular to the last one. Keep in mind that this is only based on the amount of people that have read Vol. 1 so It's probably not fully accurate but might give an insight.
>1. Harry potter (around 18k readers)
>2. Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy (4.8k readers)
>3. Legend Of The Galactic Heroes (4k readers)
>4. Lord Of The Rings (3.6k readers)
>5. Earthsea (2.1k readers)
>6. Hyperion (1.9k readers)
>7. Foundation (1.5k readers)
>8. ASOIAF (1.5k readers)
>9. Guin Saga (1.4k readers)
>10. Dune (1.3k readers)
>11. Lodoss War (942 readers)
>12. Book Of The New Sun (577 readers)
>13. Elric Of Melnibone (451 readers)
>14. Vampire Hunter D (411 readers)
Surprised at the numbers Vampire Hunter D has, was expecting somewhat higher results (even the amazon.jp digital volumes barely have more than 100 ratings). Hitchiker's being higher than LOGH is also kinda funny for some reason. Light novels also seem significantly bigger than both western and japanese SF/Fantasy books combined in terms of readership which isn't that surprising.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 13:09:18 2023 No.22018552 >>22018475 >I can't help myself throwing my money away if you have no need for money then send it to me, I will put your money to good use

Anonymous Thu May 11 13:11:59 2023 No.22018561
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>>22018546
Oh I forgot one last thing, be sure to check out his book on literary theory Hieroglyphics if you are interested. He kind of lays out his philosophy on what he likes about literature and in particular likes works that have a certain ecstatic quality to them. One book that he singles out is Dicken's Pickwick papers, which he holds as far above the author's other works. I personally haven't read it but I intend to one day just on Machen's good word

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 13:16:24 2023 No.22018578 File: 12 KB, 300x168, Modern Britain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22018550 >harry potter kek, japanese in love with anything British.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 13:18:50 2023 No.22018591 >>22018578 Did you know Red Dwarf is more well known between japanese otakus than Doctor Who?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 13:23:29 2023 No.22018606 >>22018591 are those British tv shows?

Anonymous Thu May 11 13:33:59 2023 No.22018637
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>decide to listen to a Vance short story, Sjambak, while sick in bed
>recording cuts out halfway through
>every other version I can find is also incomplete
>download epub version
>the recordings weren't incomplete, it just ends abruptly whilst resolving nothing

Anonymous Thu May 11 14:09:57 2023 No.22018748

>>22018550
>Hitchhiker's Guide is second
That surprises me, honestly. It just doesn't seem the sort of thing to really have much appeal in Japan. I guess there is a bit of crossover between British and Japanese humour (a lot of focus on a pathetic dude, for example), but still.

Anonymous Thu May 11 14:10:02 2023 No.22018749

>He never saw Chori again, and heard that she’d been killed on active service some fifteen years later. He was told this news while they were regrowing his body on the GSV Congenital Optimist after he’d been beheaded on — and then rescued from — a planet called Fohls.
What was the point of this? To show Culture favortism or show that they're not as 'good' as they come off as, considering the juxtaposition of one SC agent (Zakalwe) being rescued while the other was left for dead seemingly?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:11:29 2023 No.22018753 >>22018606 Red Dwarf is a sci-fi sitcom made in Britain, yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:16:53 2023 No.22018772 File: 110 KB, 700x955, japan map.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22018578

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:18:49 2023 No.22018779 >reading dune >"usul moisture to the dead" >shed a tear myself

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:19:13 2023 No.22018781 >>22012834 >like game of thrones but cool HOLY KINO

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:19:51 2023 No.22018785 >>22018749 >show that they're not as 'good' as they come off as Yes, the Culture fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:22:11 2023 No.22018795 File: 586 KB, 1200x2024, little fuzzy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ewok legal drama This isn't what I expected from the guy that wrote Space Viking

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:32:48 2023 No.22018845 >>22018550 who cares

Anonymous Thu May 11 14:32:50 2023 No.22018846

>>22018749
>show that they're not as 'good' as they come off as
That is the running theme in the Culture series.

>we toppled the government of this nation and threw it into chaos because we disliked how they treated their own people

>we accidentally caused a bloody civil war in this species with our unchecked intervention in their affairs, which caused them to (perhaps justifiably) get mad at us, so we killed their leaders with a horrific nanoweapon that turned their insides into BEES
>we don't like the religion of this species, but we pledged to stay out of their affairs... let's secretly get involved to make sure the side we support wins in the end!
>let's have some human meatballs for dinner!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 14:40:58 2023 No.22018877 >>22018550 >japanese equivalent of Goodreads what is the site called? i'm interested to see what other books nips enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 15:01:23 2023 No.22018946 >>22018877 Bookmeter

Anonymous Thu May 11 15:06:54 2023 No.22018966

>>22018785
>>22018846
Mostly so far (CP/PoG/UoW now) it seems their main bad points have been meddling in others' affairs, which seems standard for any (yes I know they're technically ran by AIs) human society. Sure, this lame favortism/usefulness is shitty especially when Chori was working off a lifetime debt. I don't know why this scene in particular got to me.
Things are going to get much worse in further books, huh? And I'm definitely not piecing together whatever the twist will be in Zakalwe's reverse chapters so I got that going for me.

On another note, do you guys also notice that in many sci-fi novels, especially older titles, there's an essence of... dialogue that seemingly makes no sense/goes nowhere? Almost as if they're filling a word count. It can be frustrating at times.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 15:08:51 2023 No.22018971 >>22018946 thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 17:34:19 2023 No.22019414 File: 74 KB, 1254x958, s-l300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22018450 >Now I have 4 copies of the Silmarillion, 3 paperback and 1 hardback and I haven't even read it yet the fuck. This should be the /lit/ banner

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 18:12:21 2023 No.22019533 File: 196 KB, 704x1180, loghcheers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22018550 >>3. Legend Of The Galactic Heroes

Anonymous Thu May 11 18:38:13 2023 No.22019652

>>22018550
>>22018748
I haven't heard about it, but I feel that Hitchhiker's humor is absolutely compatible to things you'd see in manga. The type of non solution the plot uses as a joke could be in any gag manga. I have a hard time thinking of works directly influenced tho. Maybe Space Captain Tylor has some Ford Perfect in him?

>Book of the New Sun
That's another one I can totally see making it big in Japan but I can't think of anyone directly referencing.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 18:39:19 2023 No.22019657 >>22018637 you just got Vanced! Nah, that's not really his thing. You got bad luck.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 19:05:14 2023 No.22019725 File: 1.41 MB, 968x2600, 1666049967444326.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22012438 Where did that giga Wolfe hater go that seethes about this image?

Anonymous Thu May 11 19:12:49 2023 No.22019746

>>22019725
I have an issue with the dying earth concept, while technically true in a literal sense I feel the tone and style of Jack Vance and Gene Wolfe are completely incompatible. It's like saying that if you liked The Hitchhiker's Guide you could read Solaris, because they're both in a spaceship. And while that's true, it's an awful mixture.

Anonymous Thu May 11 19:13:05 2023 No.22019749
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Any books that have that sense of exploration between dungeon crawling and monster hunter like Made in Abyss manga has?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 19:23:49 2023 No.22019772 >>22019749 At the Mountains of Madness and Heart of Darkness are the go to examples for this. I feel there must be some late 70's author that went for this and was huge in the post pulp circles but I can't really think of any.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 19:43:40 2023 No.22019835 >>22019725 banned from posting images and i cant be asked to argue with a bunch of 90IQ wolfefags

Anonymous Thu May 11 20:13:04 2023 No.22019934
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So we're supposed to follow Mappo and Icarium for 8+ chapters over 300 hundred pages so far without knowing what the fuck they're doing? I understand Erikson's style of "don't tell" but so far Gardens of the Moon is way better than Deadhouse Gates

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 20:22:43 2023 No.22019963 >>22014093 Zelazny is occasionally a pretty funny fucker. Give Lord of Light a shot.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 20:29:43 2023 No.22019984 >>22012684 First half of the first book has some decent style going on, rest is just a cycle of gay and angst

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 20:54:46 2023 No.22020063 >>22019984 you cannot divide a book in halfs when it comes to lgbt, the entire book is ruined and is garbage if even a small part of it has that lgbt nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 20:58:01 2023 No.22020077 Does Shallan remain such an annoying unfunny bitch for the entirety of Stormlight Archive? Does anyone ever tell her "bitch just shut the fuck up your quips are cringe"?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 20:58:24 2023 No.22020079 >>22020063 >You can't like part of a book that has things that trigger me, you have to hate it like I do so I don't get triggered

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 21:02:50 2023 No.22020099 Anyone here in Europe who ordered books from BetterWorldBooks? Just wondering what the estimated time of delivery might be for me, as my books shipped on the 14th of April and they haven't arrived as of yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 21:04:35 2023 No.22020106 >>22020079 I never said any of those things, you are just projecting.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 21:12:10 2023 No.22020130 >>22020079 You lot told us the stakes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 21:33:10 2023 No.22020207 >>22019749 Not really relevant to your request but you should read From Star Strings if you haven't already

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 21:47:17 2023 No.22020242 File: 259 KB, 273x364, Wicket_W_Warrick.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22018795 >ewoks based

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 21:49:21 2023 No.22020250 File: 290 KB, 960x1536, Hayes-From-Cold-Ashes-Risen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Starting book 3, book 2 was kino.

Anonymous Thu May 11 22:06:14 2023 No.22020293

>>22019934
It's a fairly standard type storyline for Malazan, focusing on the emotional process of carrying something out rather than giving readers anything resembling checklists or progress bars.
Mappo & Icarium has a quite unique relationship though, which is possible to infer a lot about before the reveal(s).

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 22:14:08 2023 No.22020325 >>22018561 The Great God Pan was fantastic. He makes you think about what's going on which makes the situation more horrifying.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 22:21:54 2023 No.22020341 >>22020293 I'll keep going. These two's sections are the blindest I felt reading the series so far. Any tips about picking up what iskaral Pust is saying or is he supposed to be a wackier Kruppe

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 22:41:25 2023 No.22020399 >>22016877 Yes I know how to find stuff with that method

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 22:44:21 2023 No.22020413 File: 622 KB, 469x751, theaspectbook1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh, look, some coomlit with a foxgirl that is not only a human with animal ears and tail >she is a dyke >does not get dicked what a waste of potential hmofa...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 23:04:12 2023 No.22020482 >>22014035 Sounds like the protagonist reaffirms his taboo I-ness through his sexual triumphs. I'm speculating, I haven't read it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 23:07:29 2023 No.22020497 >>22020413 /coomlit/ general >>>/lit/litrpg

>>	Anonymous Thu May 11 23:15:57 2023 No.22020517 >>22020341 He's meant to be like Kruppe.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 00:26:43 2023 No.22020758 Anybody that writes "academy" shit is a lazy cunt and should neck themselves.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 01:10:41 2023 No.22020862 >>22020758 you don't have to read it you know

Anonymous Fri May 12 01:58:28 2023 No.22021028

I finished Prince of Nothing and I liked it a lot, thank you to the anons who recommend it. I felt that Warrior-Prophet dragged a bit during sections where Esme and others were praising Kellhus until purple in the face, but that's probably my only pacing complaint.
Does Aspect-Emperor disappoint as much as I've heard? I'm probably going to read them anyways, but if Bakker is never gonna get off his ass and finish the third leg of the series maybe I'm better off stopping here.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 02:28:37 2023 No.22021123 >>22020497 based

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 02:30:45 2023 No.22021133 >>22021028 Don't devote your time to authors who started a series who don't care enough to finish it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 04:24:42 2023 No.22021520 >>22019657 I've read enough Vance to expect his endings to be abrupt. Sjambak feels like it cuts out at the end of the first act

Anonymous Fri May 12 05:10:10 2023 No.22021611
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It's the lack of subtext that negatively affects me the most. With Sanderson I feel like I'm being spoonfed, every scene is telling me exactly what to feel and think at any given moment and it all ends up feeling hollow. I couldn't imagine getting emotional at a Sanderson scene because I'm not involved at all, it's like I'm just being told to feel sad.
>sadspren swirled around anon

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 05:25:55 2023 No.22021641 File: 111 KB, 600x973, based.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 05:41:52 2023 No.22021670 >>22021611 And? He has never claimed to be writing fine literature with deep prose. He writes easy to read books for the masses.

Anonymous Fri May 12 06:14:11 2023 No.22021722

>>22021611
he has some decent subtext regarding elhokar but otherwise, yeah, his stories are basic. they got me into fantasy though. my gripe is his fans are sanderson fans, and not strictly stormlight/mistborn fans. So as a result, they act like he's a prolific writer who delivers putting out books and completing his series when none of his series are completed.. he's working on several series at once and he knows his fanbases eat up whatever he writes. several years between stormlight books now he's writing these gay little YA series and people are like "ohhh he just doesn't stop writing what a god!"

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 06:58:45 2023 No.22021784 >>22015970 LMAO I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING BUT THERE IT WAS A COUPLE OF PAGES LATER WHYYYYYY

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 08:18:21 2023 No.22021940 How come even here shitty fantasy is thrown together with sci-fi? Is this plebbit central?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 08:43:31 2023 No.22021992 I just finished Dune. The ending was good enough for me. Is there any point in reading the other books?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 08:56:44 2023 No.22022015 >>22021992 Yes

Anonymous Fri May 12 10:39:19 2023 No.22022214

>>22021611
There's this scene in The Irishman where Russ is talking to Frank about Jimmy Hoffa and he says something like "we've done everything we could to help the guy". A Sanderson book would follow up with "the implication in Russell's words was clear: Jimmy had to die, and they were ordering Frank to do the killingt" or something along those lines
It's like he doesn't trust the readers to notice anything that isn't explicitly pointed out immediately after it's been said

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 10:47:03 2023 No.22022245 >>22012438 the phoenix in obsidian (aka the silver warrior) is kind of dying earth setting-wise

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 11:34:08 2023 No.22022339 >>22021992 You haven't read the ending until you've read Messiah.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 11:55:55 2023 No.22022384 need a feature on ereaders to replace words by filter like in a text document, just so I can replace fantasy swears with contemporary or archaic swears, they always sound so campy

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 11:58:30 2023 No.22022392 File: 684 KB, 2489x3551, gene wolfe package.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22011738 It finally arrived...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 11:59:41 2023 No.22022393 I'm in a reading slump... What's some casual light read that'll get me back in the sff mood, no grim doot please.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 12:02:37 2023 No.22022398 >>22022384 >stormfather! >preservation! >rusting rusts! >lord ruler! brando is particularly cringey with this

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 12:08:03 2023 No.22022414 >>22022392 wow the new illumocrate looks awsome!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 13:36:37 2023 No.22022591 >>22018966 >UoW Well shit. The reveal was underwhelming. Cheapens the entire story.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 14:00:33 2023 No.22022645 >>22022393 The Icarus Hunt.

Anonymous Fri May 12 14:23:07 2023 No.22022709

>>22021028
I'm on Aspect Emperor now and it's been a fucking riot. He really pares back on the people endlessly thinking about things pages which is overall an improvement but sometimes I miss it. But he really goes much, much harder with the adventure/war aspects of it. Highly recommend. It's been a blast.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 15:53:44 2023 No.22022954 >>22021940 Yes, we are trying to banish the shitty fantasy fags by sending them to rpglit generals, Sanderson fags should go there too. Any suggestions recommended

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:00:06 2023 No.22022969 Well after all the shilling I’ve finally caved and read worm and let me tell you cunts [/spoiler]it was kino[/spoiler] [/spoiler]now where do I go from here? Is pact and twig any use or do I just try n find the sequal[/spoiler]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:00:39 2023 No.22022971 >>22022969 newfag

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:01:27 2023 No.22022973 >>22022969 Ah god I cringe posted

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:04:09 2023 No.22022978 >>22022969 how long was the timespan you read it over?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:12:16 2023 No.22022994 >>22022954 At this rate just have no general if you don't want to actually talk about books at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:13:27 2023 No.22022998 >>22022973 ctrl+s

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:16:15 2023 No.22023003 >>22022978 A couple weeks

Anonymous Fri May 12 16:33:15 2023 No.22023045
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>>22022994
Thanks for outing yourself as a pleb. There is much to talk about. I will post this again:

Please read some Poul Anderson. Submit to the awe-inspiring Jack Vance. Rereads and reread Gene Wolfe. Try to wrack your head around the mad genius of R A Laffery, or the philosophical musings of John Crowley.

Many will attack. But just know you have fallen so deep into escapism that you refuse to be challenged. But of course, we have seen this decay in every art form. From /tv/'s obsession with capeshit, to /v/ and interactive movie gaymes. I won't even mention music and actual paintings. It's too grim. It's okay to be pretentious, and you'll feel better about yourself if you put down the slope. And maybe one day be can make sffg great again.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:36:50 2023 No.22023054 >>22022969 Depends on what you liked about Worm, Ward may be even more kino or it may suck.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:38:20 2023 No.22023057 >>22021611 >I'm reading this guy that writes for retards Uh oh.... I've got some bad news anon

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:39:23 2023 No.22023063 >No stop talking about litrpg! >Go back to talking about the same handful of authors ad infinitum no matter what Nah. But I see this will be yet another spammed pasta in every (other) thread. As if we needed more.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 16:43:28 2023 No.22023073 File: 10 KB, 173x290, skylark.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is slop. This feels like the kind of bad scifi that would have been made fun of in the 60s, excpet it wasn't written until the mid-70s.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 17:15:22 2023 No.22023150 >>22023063 I don't understand why people are unable to talk about books outside the few that constantly get talked about. I'm pretty sure those people don't even read and just come to post about those books because they don't know about any others.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 17:32:10 2023 No.22023190 Has anyone here read John M. Ford's posthumous fantasy novel Aspects? Was supposed to be a series but he passed obviously. I liked The Dragon Waiting.

Anonymous Fri May 12 17:51:16 2023 No.22023241

>>22023054
Gender bent sherlock holmes, the way powers were utilized to compliment eachother in conflicts, the politics between the villain and hero groups, Super powered joker and his Manson family, the kaijus (especially the one that would nudge causality for horrific outcomes)

Is ward more of that?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 17:56:03 2023 No.22023256 >>22023241 I think you will like Ward a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 18:06:07 2023 No.22023296 >>22023073 It's awesome and it was written in the teens.

Anonymous Fri May 12 18:11:41 2023 No.22023318
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Are the dorsai books worth it?
I remember really liking an album of songs inspired by the books, but I convinced myself it was closer to Dune than standard militay fiction and got a bit disillusioned when I checked one. But that's on me. I'd be willing to check them with an open mind but I never see anyone discussing them.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 18:15:58 2023 No.22023330 File: 10 KB, 320x180, bateman2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22023318 Dorsia?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 19:30:25 2023 No.22023584 >>22023241 you read worm in a few weeks- you'll like ward

Anonymous Fri May 12 19:41:13 2023 No.22023624
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>>22023256
>>22022969
DO NOT READ WARD. It fucking sucks. Majority of people who liked Worm say that Ward sucked. It's a different story. Different type of focus. To make it worse, it changes the conclusion of Worm to artificialy create conflict and make things retroactively worse.

Anon, for your own sake, do not read Ward. Take another of many stories Wildbow has written. At the end, no one enjoyed Ward. Not the audience, definitely not Wildbow. He wrote what he wanted to write, but in the post-mortem blogpost he straight up said he considered quiting due to the audience reactions to the story.

Those were the dark days, friend.
May they never come again.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 19:47:47 2023 No.22023649 >>22023241 >>22023624 ward is more character focused, society focused, power mechanics focused, while less fight focused, less constant escalation focused

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 20:36:31 2023 No.22023788 >>22023649 I wish it was story quality focused, but here we are. Overall it's a failure in character study and an utter failure as a sequel

Anonymous Fri May 12 20:49:02 2023 No.22023829

>>22023649
Well I can’t imagine how much more the story could’ve possibly escalated anyways

I was gonna pick up worm a while ago but was dissuaded because an anon gave me the impression that the writer was an edgy sociopath that loves to “break his toys” but anons here were so passionate about worm that I caved in and enjoyed it quite a bit

You’re to tell me that the sequal is hot garbage? Just slice of life stuff focused on the remaining characters?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 21:16:09 2023 No.22023927 Any good fantasy book with a fat ugly bastard as protagonist? Any kind of fantasy is fine but I prefer published ebooks with proper editor.

>>	31 of 20 (Currently Reading: Paladin of the Sword) Fri May 12 22:08:48 2023 No.22024100 Should I post my review of The Primal Hunter in /litRPG/ now? Cross-post? How are other reviewfags going about it?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:13:56 2023 No.22024115 >>22024100 Everything belongs here. /litrpg/ is a honeypot thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:20:08 2023 No.22024138 >>22024100 Ignore the fake general made by the guy getting mad that people are talking about books in the book discussion thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:27:01 2023 No.22024161 >>22024100 Post here, the guy that made the fake general is the same that says your reviews are trash

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:30:40 2023 No.22024171 >>22024100 Post it here. It was a faggot that hates that people are discussing books that made that general. They are just salty that people are having fun reading what they like, and is trying to unrustle his jimmies (protip, he can't)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:35:20 2023 No.22024184 >>22024100 If it bothers you that much then post it in both this time. Nothing will happen if you do.

31 of 20 (Currently Reading: Paladin of the Sword) Fri May 12 22:37:52 2023 No.22024194
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The Primal Hunter by Zogarth

[The Story, System, and MC]

Jake was the type to put his heart into a sole focus and pursue that path to the end, whether that be relationships or archery. After being cheated on by his first major girlfriend and having a career ending injury, he dedicated his focus to being normal. Finishing college and falling into a monotonous office job. It wasn't until then that other people took the time to spring him from his shell. Specifically his office manager Jacob, who invites him out to lunch with the rest of his coworkers.

Joining because a co-worker he has a crush on will be there, the group cram into an elevator... only to find themselves teleported to an empty space and being welcomed to The Tutorial. Having achieved a specific technological threshold, our universe has been inducted into the multiverse and introduced to The System. Jake is prompted to choose a class and seeing archer as an option jumps at the opportunity. After receiving a gear set and weapon, he finds himself on a platform overlooking a tiered wooded expanse with those from his office. They've all been integrated into the system and forced to participate in this tutorial...

Starting off as G-class humans with the class of Warriors, Archers, Mages, or Healers the group bands together to survive. After struggling for several days another group approaches them and tells them they need a healer. It doesn't matter if they join or not but they will be taking the group's healer with them, like it or not. While the rest of the group is willing to join this is when Jake decides to leave. Leaving their 'new leader' with a threat of repercussion should any of his friends come to harm.

Seen as a threat by this new group, Jake is hunted down by 5 of the leader's men but quickly kills them. This leads to his discover of a bloodline based on his experience with a bow and perception stats: The Primal Hunter. Empowered to go it alone, Jake quickly finds the hidden secrets of the tutorial... and the advantages he needs to survive.

[Final Thoughts]

Torn on this but am trying to judge on its own merit. Primal Hunter, Azarinth Healer, and Dissonance (started and stopped in favor of Paladin of the Sword) could be set in the same universe. It's starting to chap my ass how repetitive the systems are becoming. BY ITSELF, I think The Primal Hunter has the most realized one out of the set due to leveraging cultivation but spins out of control with the 'stat points are made up and don't matter' problem. The writer quickly has to handwave it away to 'Jake felt slightly stronger' or 'saw slightly further'.

I learned that this book covers half the tutorial, while the 2nd covers the other. I want to say 15-20 chapters here were solely based on learning alchemy, though the pay off was solid while the narrator had to read status menus constantly. LitRPGs suffer from glaring pace issues because of Royal Road serialization mentality.

The good version of Azarinth Healer.
6/10

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:38:02 2023 No.22024196 >>22024100 In terms of the archive search it doesn't matter where you post it. If you post it twice it will appear twice. This thread is starting to near the end of its life though.

31 of 20 (Currently Reading: Paladin of the Sword) Fri May 12 22:43:34 2023 No.22024216
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>>22024194
>Lord of the Mysteries by Cuttlefish – 9/10
>Dungeon Crawler Carl Series by Matt Dinniman - 9/10
>Cradle Series by Will Wight - 8/10
>Worth the Candle by Alex Wales - 8/10
>Mother of Learning Series - 8/10
>Ave Xia Rem Y by Mat Haz - 8/10
>All The Skills by Honour Rae - 7/10
>Iron Prince by Bryce O'Connor and Luke Chmilenko - 7/10
>Chrysalis by RinoZ - 7/10
>Forge of Destiny by Yrsillar - 7/10
>A Thousand Li by Tao Wong - 7/10
>Retribution Engine by Akaso - 6/10
>Beware of Chicken by Casualfarmer – 6/10
>Wandering Inn by Pirateaba - 6/10
>Virtuous Sons by Ya Boy - 6/10
>Bastion by Phil Tucker - 6/10
>The Primal Hunter by Zogarth - 6/10
>Sufficiently Advanced Magic by Andrew Rowe - 6/10
>Heaven's Laws by Apollos Thorne - 6/10
>Battle Mage Farmer by Seth Ring - 5/10
>I Shall Seal The Heavens by Er Gen - 5/10
>Reverend Insanity by Gu Zhen Ren - 5/10
>Soulhome by Sarah Lin - 5/10
>Soulship by Nathan Thompson - 4/10
>Azarinth Healer by Rhaegar - 3/10
>Reincarnation: Threads by Michael Head - 3/10
>Portal to Nova Roma by JR Mathews - Dropped
>He Who Fights Monsters by Shirtaloon - Dropped
>The Elevation Chronicles by Captain Capslock - Dropped
>Last Ship in Suzhou by Lungs - Dropped
>Defiance of the Fall by J.F. Brink - Dropped

>Still Reading (Cultivation)
18. The Human Emperor
19. Way of Choices by Mao Ni
20. Coiling Dragon

>Still Reading (LitRPG)
15. Paladin of the Sword
16. Dungeon Diving 101
17. Infinite Realm
18. The Perfect Run
19. Re-Start (Level Up Series)
20. Dissonance

>Currently Reading:
The Human Emperor

>Currently Listening:
Paladin of the Sword (pic related)

Home stretch now, boys. Also women are willing to narrate harem litRPGs? Kind of based.

Anonymous Fri May 12 22:47:16 2023 No.22024231

>>22024216
Thoughts on Paladin of the Sword so far? It's one of the few harem things I genuinely kind of enjoyed just because it's clearly going all-out on the protagonist being a blatant pulp-y power fantasy, but he's not a complete invincible boring hero because he's also just kind of a dumbass in many ways.

Anonymous Fri May 12 22:50:07 2023 No.22024239

>>22024194
I see your point with 'same-y' systems, but in effect there's often only so complex you can go before it just becomes busywork. Infinite Realm has a bit of an issue there, it's got a weirdly thorough system with its own intricacies, but the earlier books are a little bogged down by just "anyway here's 5 pages of somebody's stats just to give you a sense of scale".

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 22:51:12 2023 No.22024244 >>22024216 Yes, women will read text for money. People in general will do most anything for money.

31 of 20 (Currently Reading: Paladin of the Sword) Fri May 12 22:53:16 2023 No.22024252

>>22024231
Just started listening to it on my ride home, so only about 12 minutes in. The MC and his mother were fleeing into Hell. Audiobook narration was pretty good, nice change of pace from Baldree-types. Jessica Threet has this Tara Strong energy about her.

>>22024239
If the stats were more actionable or had observed thresholds every... 50 points or so, I'd be more forgiving. By the end of book 1 and only halfway through a tutorial, Jake was clearing the 200s easily. He's also evolved multiple times from an unknown threshold so... what's the expectation here? Will he be stuck with these values back on Earth? Or will stats just go on forever?

>>22024244
Whoa...

Anonymous Fri May 12 22:59:53 2023 No.22024285

>>22024252
Well, I think Primal Hunter at least does a decent job of making the stats seem effective by giving you points of comparison later on. It shows how much an outlier Jake is compared to other people, there's even some bits of narration saying that his walking speed is faster than a car, etc. It's not super concrete, but there's a lot of stuff pointing out just how outclassing he is, comparatively. It's generally sort of made clear that effects of stats outside of combat tend to have a sort of diminishing return effect on them, I believe, as well. But I get whatcha mean. The numbers are basically just power levels. Bigger better. That can work fine if there's interesting stuff around that, but Primal Hunter's skills and classes and whatnot are just very bog-standard.
I'm reading Apocalypse Redux which actually has a pretty neat System thing going on, and so far numbers on stats seem to be kept comparatively small, with a clear 'baseline' established.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 23:04:54 2023 No.22024299 >general for reading books is trash 99% of the time >general for visual novels is trash 99% of the time hmm

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 23:16:27 2023 No.22024328 >>22024299 sturgeon is eternal

Anonymous Fri May 12 23:21:26 2023 No.22024343
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>>22024138
>>22024171
>books
>>22024216
>harem litRPGs
lol so much slop brain rot. Embarrassing. Probably from porn addiction. Would bet half of you are video game consumer trannies as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 23:35:55 2023 No.22024394 >>22024343 There's nothing wrong in self inserting as a pussyfucker in coomlits

>>	Anonymous Fri May 12 23:50:08 2023 No.22024430 >>22024394 Theres plenty wrong with wasting your time reading that shit though.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 00:07:40 2023 No.22024472 >>22024216 >Coiling Dragon When are those fuckers going to release books two and three on audio? I saw they had it on their site a few years ago, but all audiobooks disappeared from that chink website when I checked back recently.

Anonymous Sat May 13 00:21:56 2023 No.22024500

>>22023829
>You’re to tell me that the sequal is hot garbage? Just slice of life stuff focused on the remaining characters?
Ward is full-blown character exploration of a group of mentaly disturbed metahumans. 90% is talking about mental ilnesses, boundaries, emotional problems, shit like that. You will feel drained. You will regret ever touching this. Even the fightining scenes will be boring.
It's not, like, offensive plot-wise aside of breaking the somewhat hopeful ending of Worm, but it's just fucking boring and exhausting.
All of Worm's deep character exploration, but with unlikable characters and every other element like world-building etc. being much, much less interesting than in Worm.

If you are a psychology maniac and want to deep psychological exploration of weird things then read it, otherwise dont touch. I personally read like 15 out of 20 arcs, and I was fucking done. I just closed the page and couldnt find strength to read it to the end, despite approaching the ending.

Anonymous Sat May 13 00:23:11 2023 No.22024504
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>>22024285
Zogarth spends more time on flushing out how the stats work mathematically, so I appreciate that he's got a hard system behind it. I don't think it's shown well in that first book beyond 'he saw clearer with each point he put into Perception until... until he basically had a bubble of constant awareness around himself'. Half that sentence is boring as fuck while the other half is interesting, but not expanded on outside of just being something all high-perception people have. Sometimes the litRPG system takes away describing or engaging the reader on interesting abilities.

>>22024343
It's all been brain rot, why would the harem aspect be what turns you off? You got me on video game consooming though... I beat Red Dead Redemption 2 recently which has a better story than half the titles I've reviewed.

>>22024472
Noticed that book 2 and 3 had been pulled from Audible when I picked up the first title. Wonder if it's some publishing dispute?

Anonymous Sat May 13 00:27:35 2023 No.22024523

>>22024216
>Home stretch now, boys. Also women are willing to narrate harem litRPGs? Kind of based.
Women willing? I believe all of the harem litrpgs are narrated by women, as far as I know. You see a lot of the same names in audiobook narration, I think the same woman that narrates The Wandering Inn also narrates many harems.

btw, I'm surprised you went wiht Paladin of the Sword. As an avid harem reader I always avoided Marvin Knight due to abysmal reviews. Still think Prism Academy would be a better choice.

Anonymous Sat May 13 00:33:16 2023 No.22024546

>>22024194
Judging Primal Hunter by the first book is kinda unfair to it, and I say it as someone who believes PH to be the weakest of the 'big' LitRPGs. The story only unfolds its wings after the tutorial ends.

>>22024504
I'm surprised you had a positive reception of the system. To me, it sucks. Like, it's the most dull, boring, uninteresting a cookie-cuter system I can imagine. Literal tasteless bread of LitRPG genre. Nothing truly interesting can be done with it. You just get skills and upgrade them. Oh, and they scale with stats. This is basic video game design transplanted into a story, which is not what LitRPGs are supposed to be. What works in games is not what's good in stories.

Anonymous Sat May 13 00:36:46 2023 No.22024562

>>22024546
>Judging Primal Hunter by the first book is kinda unfair to it,
I disagree. The tutorial arc is the most interesting one, after that it just kind of flounders about with no direction and nothing happens, introducing dozens of irrelevant characters that don't do anything.

Anonymous Sat May 13 01:15:38 2023 No.22024695

>someone in another thread recs cradle with nothing but asslicking positivity
>want to go in about how shit of a series it is
y/n
o sci fi and fantasy general of the literature imageboard be my conscience in my time of need and carry me down the path to salvation

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 01:29:23 2023 No.22024739 >>22024299 generals are trash 99% of the time which is why they shouldn't be allowed

Anonymous Sat May 13 01:32:02 2023 No.22024743

>>22024546
>>22024562
>Judging Primal Hunter by the first book is kinda unfair to it

The tutorial took too long, also book 5 had the same problem bc the fucking dungeon took too long, i just want to see the world and side characters, but the author wastes too much with him killing trash

azarinth healer does this better, it just describes the MC took X time killing X ammount of mobs to get X ammount of levels

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 03:27:54 2023 No.22025005 >>22024394 an entire country/media already dedicates itself to writing harems I don't think we need more of that garbage

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 03:38:14 2023 No.22025020 >of piss and poop what is this naming trend, STOOOP

Anonymous Sat May 13 04:23:16 2023 No.22025105

>>22012695
>>22012919
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175714854951
$300
The physical copies I'm interested on are not of science fiction nor fantasy books, so I won't mention them here, that would be for another board.
AND I DO NOT WANT TO BE OUTRAN BY FAGGOTS WHO CAN'T LOOK FOR BOOKS ON FUCKING EBAY

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 04:31:09 2023 No.22025129 >>22012438 Find shelf space for "Till A' the Seas" by R. H. Barlow and H. P. Lovecraft.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 05:31:57 2023 No.22025237 >>22020077 No, but the writer retroactively tries to convince us that nobody ACTUALLY thought she was that funny. Of course, he let slip that she was supposed to come off as funny, so it was pointless.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 06:25:10 2023 No.22025331 Gene Wolfe's Westwind is really cool. But which of his stories is the most puzzle-like? I heard he often leaves little clues for puzzles in his texts.

Anonymous Sat May 13 08:14:30 2023 No.22025494

>start new fantasy series
>"Alef was Ulothi, a Fallen, one of the Faith Runners of Remminath, on the Gerant coast of the Nensin ocean. His friend Tombo was a Dulam-sophor of the Berasta sect of Lower Jeranna"

someone needs to tell these authors that less is more

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 08:16:54 2023 No.22025500 New Thread time >>22025498 >>22025498

>>	Anonymous Sat May 13 13:09:18 2023 No.22026064 >>22024194 >>22024216 your """reviews""" are SHIT FUCK OFF TO SHITRPG GENERAL

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