/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21989563]

Based Chomsky
https://www.insider.com/noam-chomsky-mit-wsj-wall-street-journal-jeffrey-epstein-2023-4
>When the Journal reached out to Chomsky for comment, the linguist had some choice words.
>"First response is that it is none of your business. Or anyone's. Second is that I knew him and we met occasionally," Chomsky, 94, told the Journal in an email.

[Anonymous No.21989588]

[Anonymous No.21989694]

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[Anonymous No.21989708]

>>21989694
hebrew is greek, he is not a jew

[Anonymous No.21989723]

>>21989563
>>21989563

>"Listen Noam, we got the tapes, you can keep doing what you're doing... but just keep the goys away from talking about 9/11, Tower 7 and Urban Moving Systems"

[Anonymous No.21989729]

>>21989723
nobody died it wasn't illegal

[Anonymous No.21989733]

>>21989563

They probably had long, deep conversations about linguistics.

I can't think of any other reason they'd hang together.

[Anonymous No.21989789]

>>21989708
Hebrew is not Greek

[Anonymous No.21989797]

>>21989789


You lie.

[Anonymous No.21989853]

>>21989723
>MUH URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS
And yet, you still don’t know who Alfreda Bikowsky is, very telling, almost like those kike Mossad agents were doing an obvious hangout to distract morons like you

[Anonymous No.21990490]

>>21989563
Fucking teens or even pre-teens is not pedophilia according to Talmud as long as they are not Jewish, respect foreign cultures, chud.

[Anonymous No.21990530]

>>21989563
Epstein was so hot bros

[Anonymous No.21990803]

>>21989563
Epstein was probably entering into negotiations to whore out Nim Chimpsky, the world's first talking ape, in Jeffery's prostitution ring. Chomsky, still seething that a shit flinging chimp was named after him, was filling in for Richard Stallman who ran into computer trouble and couldn't attend. MIT has been struggling for years, Noam knows that, and as much as he questions the logic of pimping a chimp to humans who pump and dump animals, not to mention cutting deals with lazy capitalists. But even revolutionaries need to pay the bills and Chomsky knows if he doesn't get this done MIT will fold and stinky Stallman will end up camping out in his house and won't shut up about programming languages. My anonymous source, which I cannot name for condidentiality's sake, also claims that Epstein was interested in brokering some kind of peace between lazy capitalists and anarchists, who've been doing their best to kill each other for years. Whether these talks were fruitful I cannot say, however MIT got the money and that's all they would tell me.

[Anonymous No.21990815]

What does the producer for Brace Beldens podcast have to do with /lit/?

[Anonymous No.21990821]

>>21989563
So awesome. I wish I got an invite.

[Anonymous No.21990826]

>>21990490
It wasn't a crime anywhere a few decades ago.

[Anonymous No.21990827]

>>21990490
It's objectively not pedophilia. It was also the global norm until the late 19th century.

[Anonymous No.21990884]

>>21990827
Well, 16 is still the age of consent so fucking teens is not against the global norm.

[Anonymous No.21991181]

>>21990490
Epstein was based and did nothing wrong. People act like he was some sort of psychopath hunting twelve year old girls for sport and sacrificing babies to moloch, but really he was more like James Bond with a harem of sixteen year old whores and a private island.

Truly an underrated figure.

[Anonymous No.21991291]

>>21991181
>Intellectual brow
>Dominant jawline
>Masculine forearms
>Full head of hair
The man did nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.21991345]

>>21991181
Wow I love international intelligence blackmail operations now

[Anonymous No.21991358]

>>21990884
wow there's a global AOC?

[Anonymous No.21991374]

>>21991181
In all seriousness, what ages and what acts was he accused of? If it was post pubescent girls and it was consensual, he really wasn't the biggest monster ever, just a dirty old man.

[Anonymous No.21991382]

>>21989563
What a surprise, the Jew rat hung out with another Jew rat and together they fucked kids.

[Anonymous No.21991448]

>Ephebophile/esptein apologists in this thread
kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.21991477]

>>21991448
No u

[Anonymous No.21991582]

>>21991448
This is what happens when you read too many fr*nch philosophers, they're gateway drugs to becoming a pedophile commie. Many such cases!

[Anonymous No.21991588]

>>21991582
Almost all of them grew out of communism though

[Anonymous No.21991599]

>>21991588
not wily nilly
and France i still controlled by leftists, both intellectually and very concretely in the brueacrcy

[Anonymous No.21991688]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say being a pedophile isn't based and is actually a bad thing that should be punished violently.

[Anonymous No.21991703]

>>21991688
You're so brave for zealously affirming the 90+% consensus of the present day against all of human history and civility itself.

[Anonymous No.21991708]

>>21991448
>>21991688
>Are you sleeping with a sexually mature young woman who's above the age of consent in 90% of countries on the planet???
>You sick fuck

[Anonymous No.21991717]

>>21991703

The point is that the assertion carries more weight on this forum, because this forum is notoriously and reflexively contrarian. And this particular sub-forum enjoys discussing stupid political systems like fascism and communism, all's good as long as it's extreme. But let someone come along in sincere defense of neoliberal governance, republican forms of government and the like and they lose their minds. Because the point is to hate what is popular, what is the case, what obtains.

[Anonymous No.21991721]

>>21991708
>if nogs in 3rd world shitholes think something is ethical then it must be okay!

[Anonymous No.21991736]

>>21991721
"3rd world shitholes" here meaning Eurasia.
And before you say something along the lines of "Exactly", kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.21991743]

>>21991721
The point that we are making isn't hat Epstein wasn't a perv, but that he wasn't a monster. Is 16 creepy at 50? Yes. Is it demonically evil? Eh....

[Anonymous No.21991748]

>>21991721
>Fucking niggers in Italy, France and Japan. Goddamn animals. Only thirty years old single mothers are capable of truly giving informed consent.

[Anonymous No.21991764]

>>21991743
Is it really even that creepy? If he was an average 50 year old sure, but the guy was a jacked millionaire socialite with a full head of hair. I'm pretty sure half of all romance novels today are written about somebody resembling Jeffry Epstein and women eat that shit up.

I mean, when I first heard about it sure, I thought about all the MK ULTRA Boys Town USA Satanic Panic stuff I've heard about over the years, and I'll admit I even got pretty excited to hear about all the dirty shit that Jeff was getting into... But so far all that's come out of this is that some sixteen year old girls had sex for money (a lot of it) with some of the most desirable men on the planet and now feel taken advantage of. How much am I really expected to care?

[Anonymous No.21991786]

>>21991736
Seething mongoloid

[Anonymous No.21991795]

>>21991764
Some of the girls were as young as 12. The point is not the actual predation though, its that he was very obviously collecting blackmail for some organisation, and then his case was treated in an extremely suspicious manner.

[Anonymous No.21991805]

>>21989563
>Chomsky
Two MOSSAD contract players getting together, is all...

[Anonymous No.21991825]

>>21991795
>Some of the girls were as young as 12.
Still most likely past the menarche

[Anonymous No.21991850]

>>21989563

>Since our ill-starred 2008 email exchange I have leaned towards acknowledging the likelihood that Chomsky is a lying, gaslighting Zionist scumbag. But I wasn’t sure until a few days ago, when the news broke that Chomsky had repeatedly hobnobbed with then-convicted-sex-criminal Jeffrey Epstein, including meeting Epstein together with pervert and 9/11 suspect Ehud Barak, apparently even flying on Jeffrey Epstein’s Lolita Express. Characteristically, Chomsky dissembled: “If there was a flight (with Epstein), which I doubt…” If Chomsky hadn’t flown with Epstein, of course, he would just say so. His mealymouthed evasions of the truth, whether of JFK, 9/11, Israeli occupation of America, or his relations with Epstein and Barak, have a vacuously passive-aggressive tone that is inimitably Chomsky-esque, but jarringly incommensurate with his reputation as one of the world’s greatest linguists.

>Chomsky’s response to journalists’ questions about his relationship with Epstein began: “First response is that it is none of your business. Or anyone’s.” That is, of course, exactly what many people would say when questioned about their sexual activities with consenting adults. So why is Chomsky proffering a stock “don’t ask me about my sex life” response when questioned about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his stable of underage prostitutes?

>Methinks the gnome doth protest too much.

>More troubling than whether Chomsky (statutorily) raped young girls is the question of why he was meeting with Israel’s top blackmailer of American leaders, Jeffrey Epstein, alongside the likely mastermind of 9/11, Ehud Barak. Barak resigned as Prime Minister of Israel in May of 2001 and disappeared from public view, presumably spending June through early September working on plans to demolish the World Trade Center, attack the Pentagon, and blame the carnage on Israel’s enemies. Barak’s work on the lead-up to 9/11 recalls Ben Gurion’s resignation as Israeli Prime Minister and disappearance from public view in June, 1963, after which he went underground and presumably orchestrated the assassination of John F. Kennedy in November. The moral: When Israeli PMs resign in the spring, get ready for something big come fall.

>Ehud Barak was conveniently pre-placed in BBC’s London studios so he could go live an hour after 9/11, where he recited what would become the official story

https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/chomskys-ties-to-jeffrey-epstein-and-suspected-9-11-mastermind-ehud-barak-exposed/

[Anonymous No.21991858]

>>21991825
I dont really care to debate the AOC with you, I'm just telling you what actually matters about this case. It's not the abuse itself, which is mundane and happens all the time at every level of society

[Anonymous No.21991890]

>>21991374
Some of the new documents that were just released describe one example where he had a 13 year old girl who he threatened to "deal with like he did with [Still missing girl]" if the girl didn't have sex with him and his friends.

[Anonymous No.21991892]

>>21991708
>are you actually using underage girls in an international conspiracy to blackmail the governmental, financial, and academic elites of the western world to unseen groups?
>this is totally okay!
I smell astroturfing in this thread

[Anonymous No.21991916]

>>21991892
This premise seems pretty implausible.

[Anonymous No.21991919]

>>21991850
>Ehud Barak
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-tweet-ex-pm-barak-seems-to-confirm-israel-has-nuclear-weapons/
>“In conversations between Israelis and Western diplomatic officials, there are deep concerns raised of the possibility that if the coup in Israel succeeds, a ***messianic dictatorship*** — that possesses nuclear weapons and fanatically wishes for a confrontation with Islam centered on the Temple Mount — will be established in the heart of the Middle East,” tweeted Barak in his latest criticism of the government’s judicial overhaul effort.
>messianic dictatorship
Pic related, you know things are fucked when even those calling out the endtime cultists are blackmailed

[Anonymous No.21991924]

>>21991916
Oh yeah, covert intelligence agencies that operate internationally would never want heavy blackmail their own allies and their enemies, right? Totally unfounded and paranoid, they would never, ever do anything like that. In fact, we should stop carrying about what Epstein was doing, and just eat our cheeseburgers and drink ourselves into a coma like good goyim do.

[Anonymous No.21991948]

>>21991924
>Oh yeah, covert intelligence agencies that operate internationally would never want heavy blackmail their own allies and their enemies, right?
Intelligence agencies generally do not blackmail their allies, no. They do spy on them to make sure they don't get too friendly with their enemies but that's not what's happening here.
>In fact, we should stop carrying about what Epstein was doing, and just eat our cheeseburgers and drink ourselves into a coma like good goyim do.
Yes - even if you're right, why should I care? The trouble that random public figures find themselves in has nothing to do with me. Foucault fucked little boys in Tunisia and Arthur C Clarke fucked little boys in Sri Lanka, were those foreign subversions as well?

[Anonymous No.21991955]

>>21991948
>Intelligence agencies generally do not blackmail their allies, no.
Lol

[Anonymous No.21991973]

>>21991948
>Intelligence agencies generally do not blackmail their allies, no.
>generally do not
Lol, lmao even. Are you even listening to yourself? You don't even have the means to disprove or prove your statement anyway, so its worthless. We do know however that Epstein was fucking kids with everyone ranging from Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Trump, Barak, Chomsky, the current head of the CIA, JPMorgan executives, the list goes on and on and on. You are acting like such a naive normie moron its actually laughable.
>why should I care? The trouble that random public figures find themselves in has nothing to do with me.
This effectively destroys your credibility, none of them are random. You might as bluntly rephrase this to say "it doesn't matter that the upper echelon of western society are blackmailed pedos/ephebos with leverage over them directing them towards policy ends not in my interest. It doesn't matter to me even though I don't even know what my own interests are in the first place because I'm a stupid fuckface."

If I had to guess, you have no kids, and have no plans to have kids, or you're a shill. Either way, you're as stupid as you are naive and come off as a massive r*dditor.

[Anonymous No.21992002]

>>21991955
Give some examples.
>>21991973
>You don't even have the means to disprove or prove your statement anyway, so its worthless.
Neither can you, and the idea that Epstein was serving a foreign intelligence agency is the positive claim here.
>This effectively destroys your credibility, none of them are random.
What about Stephen Hawking? Woody Allen?
>directing them towards policy ends not in my interest
How do I know they're not in my interests (assuming they exist)? Do you even have candidate nations for who might be behind it in your narrative?

[Anonymous No.21992015]

>>21992002
>literally collecting videos of famous powerful people diddling underage girls
>meets with Israeli and us spooks
>get outed for some reason and is arrested
>""""kill himself""""" in jail while the cameras just happen to malfunction
>court prosecuting his friend Maxwell for her role in his sex ring refuses to publicize any of the names involved let alone arrest them
>fbi mysteriously allows the video footage he had to disappear
Read between the lines a bit lmfao

[Anonymous No.21992029]

>>21992002
>Neither can you, and the idea that Epstein was serving a foreign intelligence agency is the positive claim here.
Demonstrating your ignorance again. Epsteins relationship with G. Maxwell, whose father was a Mossad agent, makes it perfectly clear that they were tied into intelligence circles. Pretending otherwise is sophistry
>What about Stephen Hawking? Woody Allen?
Hawking was a high level academic, and Woody a petty celebrity fucking with forces he didn't understand. Pretending like either of these two disprove anything when Epstein was trafficking and raping kids with presidents, princes, prime ministers, and billionaires again reeks of sophistry/r*dditry
>How do I know they're not in my interests (assuming they exist)?
Its literally in nobody of the general publics interest to be governed by unaccountable, blackmailed politicians and internationalist billionaires whose levarage belongs to a billionaire interested in eugenics and cloning, in tandem with his unknown glowie handlers. This entirely goes against several of the key ideas and institutions of Western liberal-democratic society.
>How do I know they're not in my interests (assuming they exist)?
The CIA and Mossad. Try to keep up retard.

I honestly have better things to do that explain this to the most naive person on 4chan right now.

[Anonymous No.21992054]

>>21989733
Epstein has always been a cunning linguist

[Anonymous No.21992097]

>>21992015
I agree it's likely he was murdered, but the obvious explanation that he was murdered by someone connected to one of his clients because of the dirt he had on them doesn't require such a global conspiracy. Epstein was arrested for soliciting underage prostitutes long before he started taking clients.
>>21992029
Calm down.
>G. Maxwell, whose father was a Mossad agent
I didn't know that, but that's a fair point.
>Its literally in nobody of the general publics interest to be governed by unaccountable, blackmailed politicians
Deep states exist because they're stable and functional.
>The CIA and Mossad. Try to keep up retard.
This doesn't answer anything. Both of those agencies are mainly interested in national and international security, destabilising themselves and their allies would not be logical. Maybe in your mind they've gone rogue and serve their own ends now, but they're far too antifragile imo, any human elements that could lead to such a thing are temporary.

[Anonymous No.21992104]

>>21992097
You know empires collapse right? Its a thing that happens, and people loot the corpse while it dies

[Anonymous No.21992119]

>>21992104
It's usually more of a managed decline once the cost/benefit equations get unfavorable than a collapse.

[Anonymous No.21992127]

>>21991448
>>21991582
>>21991688
Perhaps reddit is more your speed

[Anonymous No.21992130]

>>21992097
>Deep states exist because they're stable and functional.
This is completely beside my point. Their methods and actions are anti-thesis of transparent, open democratic society, and as time goes on they will continue to subvert all the institutions we take for granted on multiple fronts. Their influence combined with conglomerated international capitalism is a recipe for Orwellian-tier super totalitarianism.
>destabilising themselves and their allies would not be logical
They're not doing that, they're shackling them up in blackmail-leverage schemes to increase and maintain cohesiveness internationally. Its systemic-reinforcement of oligarchic interests, which as already mentioned, is flirting with totalitarianism. Its preventing dissent within the highest ranks of society from forming and countering the abomination globalist power.

[Anonymous No.21992137]

>>21992127
>being anti-pedo is r*ddit
go back retard

[Anonymous No.21992148]

>>21991291
let's see his teeth

[Anonymous No.21992152]

>>21992137
Yes. Now fuck off moralfag

[Anonymous No.21992154]

>>21992152
dilate

[Anonymous No.21992167]

>>21992137
It is

[Anonymous No.21992171]

>>21992167
KYS

[Anonymous No.21992202]

>>21992171
Kill moralfags, behead moralfags, roundhouse kick a moralfag into the concrete

[Anonymous No.21992265]

>>21992015
Not the anon you're talking to, since Epstein was obviously an asset and high profile sex trafficking/blackmail rings are a well documented phenomenon.

But accepting all of that to be true, Epstein was a cunny James Bond, and that's based.

[Anonymous No.21992299]

>>21992265
I think the reality is far less charming than whatever you're imagining. Just a bunch of dirty old men and confused, likely frightened and coerced girls. Hes no james bond, hes just some unpleasant jew.

Either way it doesnt matter, the blackmail ring is the important part

[Anonymous No.21992394]

>>21992299
>Either way it doesnt matter, the blackmail ring is the important part
What stands out to me is the extent that it's being outed in popular culture. Epstein, for all the cover-up, was an extremely public phenomenon, and the Prince Andrew scandal as well as Bill Gates divorce were also extremely public and well broadcasted. Then you've obviously got popular media trends, the True Detective series for example, which was directly based on the blackmail rings going on in Nebraska and makes some pretty direct nods to the involvement of, well, everyone surrounding the Bushes and Clintons. We know that this stuff doesn't necessarily need to see the light of day, so why the massive public attention and limited hangouts? Was it some sort of factional power struggle? Cleaning house of the degenerates post cold-war? Keeping the right people in line during COVID? I'd guess it's the last one, but again, why? What I've heard on fairly good authority is that the vaccinationa were a massive beta testing of MRNA technology by allocating different lots of different populations to study the effects... But to what end? Probably not global genocide or whatever shit coat was used to smear criticism, and it clearly hasn't created any human-monster hybrids (although there has been an uptick in heart related fatalities). Maybe to induce.increased levels of PARP1 and Ku70 in certain sections of the population, among other things, in an attempt to test age extension?

Population control has been already masterfully dealt with by simply prioritizing women in education, so there's no need to burn through that much social capital for any reason short of global genocide.

It's weird in any case. Plus it all happened around the pandemic, which has had the effect of burning through a substantial amount of social trust among the population. Add this with censorious moves by social media, World Economic Forum fuckery, weird social engineering efforts directed largely at private schools teaching the elite of the elite, and seemingly backed by ex-nazi financiers like Soros.

If I had to guess it's laying the groundwork for a coup. Once boomer population levels drop below a certain level there will be enough popular support for a fairly radical restructuring of systems of power, and then what? The Rockefeller foundation rides in on a white horse promising gay luxury space communism and total spiritual liberation in the form of applied Crowley-ism? Wouldn't be surprised if we get another Hitler or Lenin in the coming years, and wouldn't be surprised if he's being financed and controlled by the same people he claims to oppose.

But why? On one hand you've got Race Riots keeping the boomers in check and Me Too keeping young men out of positions of power, on the other you've got weirdos like the Moonies and Zionist backed psudo Islamists with Hollywood equipment and postmodern media techniques operating on the fringes. Is there a point beyond controlling all sides? Idk.

[Anonymous No.21992403]

>>21989563
His most famous work was stolen from Parenti except with all the anti-imperialism stripped out of it and now he'll just be discredited for associating with nonces.

[Anonymous No.21992408]

>>21989563
Taking a neutral position on this. While young women are best for reproduction, this is more of an early life thing.

[Anonymous No.21992412]

>>21989729
Really? Proof?

[Anonymous No.21992413]

>>21991717
Political hipsterism

[Anonymous No.21992415]

>>21992171
Saved

[Anonymous No.21992428]

>>21989797
Hebrew and Greek are distinct languages with demonstrably distinct origins. You've been spouting this schizophrenia for eons, often referencing that schizophrenic book. Give up the autism, my guy

[Anonymous No.21992443]

>>21991181
Let's just face it, it is just pesky goyim seething and thinking we live in a democracy. Seriously, they need to be put in their fucking place, I am sick and tired of putting up with all the pretenses.

[Anonymous No.21992450]

>>21992394
Lot of stuff to address here but my general take is "I dont know".

>Was it some sort of factional power struggle?
That seems like the most logical answer. Epstein pissed someone off or he was just a liability for some reason, idk.

As for Corona, bro I have absolutely no fucking clue what that was about. I mean there are a number of possible explanations that seem sort of credible, sort of but not really. It was genuinely the strangest thing to happen in living memory, just honestly surreal in every way. All the possible answers are basically way out in tinfoil land.

The problem is that we dont actually know who they are or what their ideology is so we are just fumbling around in the dark here. If they just want some kind of gay neocommunism well they're already heading that way, why the corona shenanigans. They already control the money printer and can just shoot anyone who fucks with them so what is their motive even? Was it all just about trying to create a biometric ID? I really have no clue

[Anonymous No.21992466]

>>21991448
Humans do not live by the same rules and standards as gentile hominids.

[Anonymous No.21992473]

>>21992466
Bold of you to assume you’re human

[Anonymous No.21992474]

>>21992466
Racial narcissism is rather tedious you know

[Anonymous No.21992602]

>>21992202
>>21992167
>>21992127
Imagine going through 2-3 years at the academy, being the son of an influential politician/bureaucrat, finally getting your job at the FBI *swoons* and spending all day shitposting on a Portuguese hiking enthusiast forum.

[Anonymous No.21992633]

>>21992602
Living the fucking dream.

[Anonymous No.21992647]

i think there should be a little 6 pointed star next to your post if you're jewish

[Anonymous No.21992654]

>>21991717
>sub-forum

[Anonymous No.21992667]

>>21991717
literally who the fuck defends neoliberal government anymore apart from shills?

[Anonymous No.21992681]

>>21992667

Please let me know what exactly is supposed to be wrong with governments and corporations tightly coordinating together for the purposes of economic growth. Happily, your indignation is along the lines of the sort of attitude that I was criticizing.

[Anonymous No.21992688]

how will leftoids recover now that internet reddit socialism jesus is fucking kids just like the badman and elong

[Anonymous No.21992693]

>>21992681
hey francis, how's the acceleration of history treating your hairline?

[Anonymous No.21992829]

>>21989588
Do people that say this sort of shit forget that we live in a democracy, where we have to be on our best behavior or else we're gonna end up with corrupt leaders?

[Anonymous No.21992844]

>>21989723
>9/11, Tower 7 and Urban Moving Systems
You forgot JFK assassination.

[Anonymous No.21992846]

>>21989563
Filthy kike being a filthy kike. Nothing new here. Fuck Chomskike.

[Anonymous No.21992848]

>>21989563
Are you telling me that the guy who tried to ruin the careers of the journalists exposing the khmer rouge's atrocities has no morals and raped children? What a shock.

[Anonymous No.21992852]

>>21992846
Right. They dont will fully integrate into the society where they live, then cry about racism..
>if you live in the states you are first American before you’re Christian / ki*e / muslim etc
It does make sense to me , although i dont like patriotism / nationalism (tribalism).

[Anonymous No.21993091]

>>21990827
>It's objectively not pedophilia. It was also the global norm until the late 19th century.
Teenagers it's not but pre-puberty has always been a fierce debate. That being said, for Catholics, it's pedophilia and thus for everyone it really is but they just choose heresy over salvation, truth, and goodness.

[Anonymous No.21993094]

>>21991948
>The trouble that random public figures find themselves in has nothing to do with me. Foucault fucked little boys in Tunisia and Arthur C Clarke fucked little boys in Sri Lanka, were those foreign subversions as well?
Weirdly - sin corrupts your mind and makes you less intelligent. Foucault and Clarke and any pedophile, fornicator, or masturbator will be less intellectually coherent than their pure hearted counterpart. St. Thomas Aquinas being the best example of this.

[Anonymous No.21993097]

>>21991916
>This premise seems pretty implausible.
No it's basic facts. Mossad uses women aged 15-18 because the actualy sex act with them is not egregious in a talmudic lens but the situation is satanic. I don't think these men should feel ashamed of their actions as 15-18 is not really a crime but the crime is participating in human trafficking at all.