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is it possible to get /lit/ back to it's glory days?

>> No.21952994

>>21952985
>we hope that at least one of us can last longer than all the failed book clubs
"..."
We still have book clubs anyway. There was a Plotinus one going for months. I think there was a Joyce one too like in the past year or so

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>>21952985
Might as well try to get the whole site back to its glory days.

>> No.21953030

>>21953017
would be like trying to get slashdot back to its glory days. can't roll back time, man.

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>>21953030
we can atleast try

>> No.21953083

there should be atleast 2-3 threads of book clubs running concurrently.
this board is filled with dead threads, we can atleast try to change to that

>> No.21953118

>>21953017
yeah that's not gonna happen, but getting a board to function in a proper way is not a big task

>> No.21953121

I've considered trying to start a continuous book club for short stories, nut I never actually go through with. Didn't want to choose any particular theme, and I thought it would be a good way to get people directly engaging with texts and reading a greater variety of authors.

>> No.21953122

>>21952985
Oh hey I remember participating in this book club

>> No.21953125

>>21953083
Then make one.
I genuinely would, but have term papers/finals coming up and won't have the free time to run a regular thread.

>> No.21953129

>>21952985
I remember I used to get flamed on /a/ if I wrote grammatically incorrect sentences.

>> No.21953133

>>21952985
4chan is dead in general
only board that seems popular is /v/

>> No.21953134

>>21953083
Every time I try to start a thread about literature one of the tranny jannies deletes it and bans me
>hey, here's some news about book bans in schools
BANNED
>hey, here's some statistics on reader demographics
BANNED
>hey, let's share our favorite quotes or passages
BANNED
>lets talk about "sensitivity readers"
BANNED
>can you believe the bullshit in these manuscript wish lists?
BANNED

At this point every time I start a thread on /lit/, no matter how mundane, even if it's a repost of something I found on /lit/, I have to prep myself for a no-you-cant-refute-this 3 day ban.

>> No.21953137

>>21953134
Is this a joke? Because this
>hey, let's share our favorite quotes or passages
Is the only thing you listed that is actually a thread about literature

>> No.21953139 [DELETED] 

>>21953134
i'm sorry anon and fuck jannies

>> No.21953142

>>21953134
based jannies. most of that shit belongs on /pol/, which leads me to infer that the stuff which doesn't belong on /pol/ is also justifiably removable, and you sound like you contribute nothing positive to the quality of this board.

>> No.21953151

recommendation-fags and philosophy-fags should have their own generals

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>> No.21953203

>>21953142
Jannie is that you calling yourself based

>> No.21953207

>>21953142
>>21953137
Yeah, you're right. What /lit/ really needs is yet another bookshelf thread, and another discussion on ballpoint pens, and a handwriting thread, and let's discuss Harry Potter-- no, not the books, lets discuss the video game and the HBO series and J K Rowling's problematic beliefs. Yeah, these need to be on page 0 all day every day, forever. Fuck me for wanting to talk about books.

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blooooood meridian posters should be executed on sight.
i get that it's a great book, but holy shit make a general thread or something rather than shitting all over the board

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>>21953207
it's all show off

>> No.21953231

>>21953227
vanity

>> No.21953232

>>21953137
They're all topics related to literature, dumbass. Kill yourself.

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21953237

this belongs to >>/adv/

fuck jannies

>> No.21953240

What we really need is another Unreal Press shill thread where they casually dox people who make fun of them. That will save /lit/.

>> No.21953274

>>21953122
>>21953129
good times

>> No.21953279

>>21953200
>screenshotting your own threads.

>> No.21953303

>>21953279
are you retarded?

>> No.21953309

>>21952985
>tripfag
>glory

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21953346

Can I say something potentially controversial?

I think /sffg/ is a mistake and should be discontinued. I think ghettoizing discussion of science fiction and fantasy is a bad idea. You may not like the average sci-fi and fantasy book, but it's still a book, and having individual threads on this or that sci-fi or fantasy book, even if it's random and not popular, is a better use of space in the catalog than yet another religion thread or yet another thread about Nietzsche by someone who clearly hasn't read him.

Honestly I even miss the days of regular ASOIAF threads. Though there's nothing for that, the fat fuck is going to go to his grave never releasing another book.

>> No.21953358

>>21953200
>>21953207
Dont forget the tattoo discussion thread. That's what I come to /lit/ for: to share my sick tatts.

>> No.21953361

>>21953134
>I'm a /pol/nigger who posts /pol/nigger ragebait and culture war bullshit on /lit/, why am I getting banned?
Based janny.

>> No.21953366

>>21953361
Please explain how those are /pol/ topics.

>> No.21953367

>>21953346
In all honesty, I bet that the genre fiction readers probably read more and are more willing/able to actually discuss books than the rest of us on this board.

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>>21953358

>> No.21953381

>>21953367
i agree with this sentiment

>> No.21953385

>>21953366
he can't

>> No.21953389

>>21953125
which book should we pick? any suggestions

>> No.21953410

>>21953389
>anna karenina
>crime and punishment
>in search of lost time
>don quixote
>dickens
>grapes of wrath

>> No.21953416

>>21953346
>I think /sffg/ is a mistake and should be discontinued.
Based.
>I think ghettoizing discussion of science fiction and fantasy is a bad idea.
Cringe.

>> No.21953421

>>21953410
something different?
>the tartar steppe
>Waiting for the Barbarians
>The Fortress
>Nostalgia (Mircea Cartarescu)
>The Dwarf - Par Lagerkvist
>The Magic Mountain
>Hunger

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>>21953133
>go on /v/
>10 fapbait threads, webm thread spammed with non-/v/ posts, reposts upon reposts of the same shitflinging topic with zero change in discussion, occasional ERP and monkey torture
Yeah, shit's grim. Some of the hobby boards that lend well to consistent output from the anons that populate them are alright, though, /lit/ somewhat included.

>> No.21953476

The problem, other than just the redditification of the entire internet, is that /lit/ is a board with a high floor for discussion. /v/ is like playing in a sandbox and so is /int/ it’s all just memes really. To have an actual discussion, even if it’s just parroting other’s viewpoints Good-Will-Hunting-bar-scene style, on literature and philosophy requires a degree of knowledge of history which is both broader and deeper than most people will ever achieve or aspire to. 90% of people live in the last 150 years of the world and 9% live in the last 300. Seriously, what person do you know who can tell you enough about the political and economic atmosphere of Ancient Greece such that Plato and Aristotle can make sense as not only historical figures but as thinkers as well. Specifically, I mention this because this is baseline understanding for then understanding Marx. But, you also have the tradition of German Idealism to reckon with both politically and ideologically if you’re to understand why Marx came to the conclusions he did (for example, expelling Christianity from Hegel’s dialectic by way of the left and right Hegelian divide to arrive at a secular dialectical materialism). And that’s not to say that’s everyone here is master of philosophy, far from it, merely that the baseline for having generative conversations that don’t devolve into “well I think this” “cool, I think this” is slightly higher than making 20 Lucky-Star threads on /a/ per day. Additionally, there’s the general problem of the internet becoming more hierarchical and openly antagonistic/addictive such that thinking has been rigidified into general frameworks incel/chad, chud/troon, blackpilled/whitepilled, etc which has aestheticized internet discourse into a pre-determined zone for each viewpoint which carries its own essential logic and makes further engagement with content redundant as pre-formed opinions are already presented to you aestheticized to your own personal narrative. It’s kind of like how TV sitcoms have laugh tracks for the jokes so that you can “laugh” at them vicariously thereby taking the last vestige of engagement with the content and control the viewers reaction to it. Most of all internet traffic is bots… strange, where are they?

>> No.21953485

>>21953133
/v/ died when the YouTube generation started spamming eceleb shit, just before gamer gay. Visiting now, it's just full of anime horseshit.

>> No.21953543

I have a plan and I'm going to execute it. we will read the most influential book from century starting from the 1st century to 21st. It's not a easy task but I'm willing to do it.

>> No.21953550

>>21953543
/BOC/ - book of the century

>> No.21953597

>>21952985
Too many r*dditrefugees, also have you seen our faggot jannies that turned this board to shit for free.

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>>21953083
Nobody even talks about books written by authors from here, why would you think this place is actually going to start thriving?

>> No.21953744

The currently failing Old Testament reading book club is disappointing.

>> No.21953745

>>21953550
/bbc/ - best book of the century

>> No.21953757

>>21953721
I liked Infinite Money Jest and Chicken World just fine. Latter has the touch of genius, but kinda cackhanded, former pretty professional without aiming too high.

>> No.21953766 [DELETED] 

>>21953757
I gotta get a copy of Chicken World!

>> No.21953777

>>21953744
the bible is a disappointment

>> No.21953894

/lit/ was only good when it had Nick Land/accelerationism discussions or Jünger-fren was still posting.

bring those two things back and this place will be worth something again.

>> No.21954228

>>21952985
No, sorry, no more discussion of cool and interesting books to read. It is now mandated that 90% of threads must consist entirely of pseud dickwaving and RETVRN faggotry for people with poor father figures

>> No.21954234

>>21953375
>just realized these are real threads
Jesus man.

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nope. /lit/ became terminal after the invasion of reddit refugees and /pol/ in 2015. They viewed /lit/ as some kind of intellectual epicentre of 4chan (lmao) so felt obligated to brigade and "conquer" it. they scurred away the anons who actually read literature. They're not coming back. The mod is a colossal faggot for letting this happen and was probably paid.

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>>21953476
>Most of all internet traffic is bots… strange, where are they?
They'll be here to kill the rest of the internet shortly. You can hardly tell the difference between a chatbot versus the average 4chan shitposter nowadays anyway

>> No.21954248

>>21952985
No. Enjoy your endless threads about Evola, Spengler, e-celebs and insecure high schoolers.

>> No.21954253

>>21953410
>>21953421
I'll try to start a bookclub on here this May when I got out of uni for the Summer. I'd be fine reading any of those.

>> No.21954259

>>21953030
>can't roll back time, man.
Natalie Portman, naked and petrified, covered in hot grits, you insensitive clod.

>> No.21954605

>>21954253
please do

>> No.21954613

>>21954253
it's don quixote for me, if you're gonna really start, start with that

>> No.21954838

>>21953721
kill yourself you fucking shill

>> No.21954870

>>21953069
Flag and ignore all the shitposters.
Ah, but the shitpost respondents outnumber the serious posters.
Could apply for the janitorial position.
Ah, but the moderators hamstring them greatly

No, it was death by a thousand paper cuts started many years ago. Anonymous image boards are not conducive to quality information and serious community. Just trolling, with a few hints of truth in the free speech.
But even this free speech aspect is going to be compromised or used

>> No.21954872

>>21953083
Jannies abandoned this hellhole years ago, m8. Retarded /pol/ and /his/ threads are the new norm.

>> No.21954966

>>21954613
Got it, I'll start it around the 20th

>> No.21955018

>>21952994
>Plotinus
damn I missed it. I just bought the enneads a few weeks ago. haven't started on them yet but I want to

>> No.21955029

>>21953134
Because I am posting right now that niggers fucking suck, and that jews have destroyed our world, some faggot jannie will give me a ban. Fuck all trannies. Fuck all niggers. Fuck all jews. Fuck the jannies. they do it for free.

Also, jannies, can I get a few more threads about ballpoint pens and book covers. Can you maybe NOT delete the other fifteen threads about Blood Meridian. lol, fucking idiots.

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>>21955029
You need original insults to get banned.

>> No.21955036

>>21953721
I have talked about my books here a bit.
Just published my third book last night. Pretty happy about it.

>> No.21955039

>>21955034
No, I don't. I have been banned for saying kike like one time. So no, anon, I don't need to be original. This is /lit/. Original is not allowed. Now get back to the 17th Cormac thread.

>> No.21955163

>>21955029
uber-based

>> No.21955184

>>21953421
I just picked up a copy of The Magic Mountain and was thinking about starting a book club for it. If anyone beats me to it I’ll do my best to participate.

>> No.21955190

>>21953017
It's sad... the internet culture that made 4chan what it was is long dead. Small forums, 1337 speak, flash games, lightweight websites as the norm, memes with impact font, emoticons (not emoji), old YouTube, personal websites, instant messengers, IRC, and some effort on the part of the user to access the internet itself are all gone. These are just a handful of the things that existed side-by-side with 4chan, and they influenced and shaped each other.

Now the fact of the matter is that the internet outside of 4chan is centralized, uniform, sterile, corporate, bloated, and, most importantly, over-moderated if not outright censored, as well as being flooded with individuals who only go there not to participate in the culture of website or forum, but just to spew the thoughts in their mind into a "status" or "tweet." Through sheer numbers, they have made that the culture of every website which is built around user-participation, and we should be glad that this website has been (mostly) spared that fate.

There is also little need for more than a small selection of websites for the modern internet user. Videos, instant messaging, forums, and more have all been rolled into single websites, which has made smaller websites or software specializing in those things unappealing to anyone other than a minority of people who used visit those websites, or utilize such software.

What's more is that major media websites like YouTube are no longer about channel customization, small channels, and individuals. Now they are about large corporate channels, or celebrity "creators" who are grown men yelling and doing exaggerated body motions and facial expressions for 60 second videos to entertain children and manchildren for the purpose of collecting ad revenue. This same corporate philosophy is also reflected in Twitter, Facebook, and others.

It seems to be that there is no going back. 4chan is like the beautiful ruins of antiquity, and modern websites the glass and concrete boxes of modern construction. The internet as a whole, especially in the 1990s and 2000s, was like brilliant flash that burned brightly for a instant. The internet as it is now is just the glowing ember leftover, slowly growing duller, and colder.

>> No.21955195

>>21954966
this anon is also creating a book club with don quixote, you can create one with magic mountain
>>21955184
I'll participate

>> No.21955212

>>21955190
this hits like a train, you should write a book anon or atleast short stories with these themes

>> No.21955394

>>21955212
Thank you for your kind words anon. Glad it resonates with you. I'm extremely fond of that era of computing and internet culture, so it's very enjoyable for me to write about it.

>> No.21955532

>>21952985 yes, bring back Nick Land threads

>> No.21955592

>>21955190
I wanna hear more on your thoughts about this. Do you think there is a solution or examples outside of 4chan of old internet antiquity. I always associate Minecraft with the rise and fall of the internet, it came really around the last hurrah, and the nostalgia and aesthetic of it + the change as Microsoft slowly eradicated it really seems to be a nice test case / isolated example of the rise and fall. Early Minecraft vs what it is now is like night and day, and all stages of it really correlate to the state of the internet. Not /lit/ related but I am curious if anyone else has examples like that or just more thoughts on the whale fall of the internet.

>> No.21955641 [DELETED] 

>>21955592
Just look at this board, if you're a writer, anonymous people here just attack you and talk shit. There are no organic communities and the crab-in-bucket mentality rules all.

When you're not anonymous, you just get banned, and when you're on an anonymous forum, the loser crabs just attack anyone who stands out from the crowd.

>> No.21955827

>>21955641
You just suck at writing, Jason. This board has tried to push you into improving for years now but we've figured out that you're just too retarded. If you want a hugbox, go back to Reddi--oh wait hahahahah

>> No.21955895

>>21955190
Https makes an independent internet impossible

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>>21955827
The Shitkickers is a 5-star book:
https://a.co/d/bfDaICM

City of Singles, which I didn't even edit, would have a higher rating if I didn't have so many troll 1-star reviews.

The 2nd edition of City of Singles is just about done, and it is so, so, so much better. I think it also completely vindicates me as being right, again, in my predictions, as in 2023 the dating market by all accounts is completely fucked.

https://medium.com/hello-love/study-predicts-45-of-women-will-be-single-by-2030-1fbc99bad6a8

The birth rates in places like B.C. are an abysmal 1.17

https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E210US91166G0&p=bc+birth+rate
>South Korea is less than 1.0

Where's your books, faggot? Oh wait, you're a nothing and a nobody.

>> No.21956113

>>21956062
post full pdf or epub of shitkickers and i'll read it with an open mind

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>>21956113
ePub:
https://afterworkfreeporn.com/The-Shitkickers-Amazon-Version-Ready.epub

PDF:
https://afterworkfreeporn.com/FINISHED-AMAZON-VERSION.pdf

Enjoy! There are several /lit/ easter eggs in the book, the easiest one to spot is probably the Gardner COTC reference.

>> No.21956214

>>21956200
>After work free porn
Oh c'mon I don't want viruses.

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>>21956214
I don't have viruses or any BS on my site.
>an honest smut dealer
I just posted a mirror on my paranormal test site:
>epub
https://ghostfriendly.com/The-Shitkickers-Amazon-Version-Ready.epub
>pdf
https://ghostfriendly.com/FINISHED-AMAZON-VERSION.pdf

Wordpress on my personal site, jason-bryan.com, won't allow PDF or epub uploads and the FTP is somehow fucking fucked so I can't link it from my personal site, but I can use FTP for my domains hosted on the same account. I'll have to ask my host why, kind of annoying.

>> No.21956285

>>21953240
Unreal Press’s doxxing campaign is ruining this board.

>> No.21956292 [DELETED] 

>>21956285
I've been doxxed so many times and absolutely nothing has happened as a result of it.

>> No.21956571

>>21955592
(1/2)
Minecraft is a good example, from the little I've played in the past 5 years or so.

>Do you think there is a solution or examples outside of 4chan of old internet antiquity.

I don't know that there's a solution. I think it is the nature of the means of access to the internet which had, and continues to have, a tremendous impact on the culture of the internet. When effort was required to connect, it almost necessarily meant that the people who where there wanted to be there, and thought that it was novel thing. They often assimilated to the culture of whatever forums they where a member of. But now that it's easy to connect, anyone with two hands can do so, and clearly, this influx of newcomers did not assimilate to the old internet culture, and I do suspect corporations may have played some role in that. I don't think you can as easily narrow down the motivations for people using the internet in the modern day, but I suspect there are a few common ones.

The first, especially for those now older than 18ish, is that you are expected to use the internet. For example, many workplaces, even small business, use the web-based services to do payroll, and manage the scheduling of employees, and in turn, the employee needs to use those same web pages and services to see his payroll and get his schedule. I am speaking from experience here. And of course, for anyone in college, almost all the assignments, rubrics, and supplemental course material is hosted on web pages, and sometimes exclusively so (e.g. video). I even remember the early days of this sort of thing in highschool.

The second reason, especially for those who are the youngest among Gen Z, is that they grow up with it. I have a job where I work with the public, and I can't tell you how many children I have seen given a phone and a tablet, with mindless, endless "content" with no real substance whatsoever. They become phone drones. Many children these days are raised with the internet from day zero. Action figures, plastic soldiers, blocks, and the like have taken a backseat to endless children's videos. In contrast, growing up, I needed permission and often supervision to use the internet.

The third reason, which is probably universal, is that it is extremely convenient to use it. Any phone or tablet made in the past 15 or more years can connect to the internet in some capacity. Now combine this with the fact that everyone has an opinion about everything (which is not wrong in itself, it's human nautre), and mega corporations advertising services to broadcast that opinion with no barrier whatsoever. The result is the cesspools of modern social media. Now many thousands of smaller websites integrate those social media websites and services in them, and the corporate tone is driven from the top down. The most common example I can think of are websites which encourage you to "Log in With Facebook/Twitter/Linkd In!"

>> No.21956583

>>21954248
Still better than gay pedo books.

>> No.21956644

>>21956571
(2/2)
As for examples of old internet, there are only a few examples I can think of off the top of my head, so I'll just link a search engine instead.

http://wiby.me/

This is a search engine that only indexes pages according to the philosophy of the old internet. That is to say, the pages here usually very lightweight in nature, do not contain excessive amounts of advertising, are not bloated with unnecessary Java Script or CSS, and are (often) hosted by individuals instead of corporations. It is not as if the old ways are completely dead. What makes this search engine special is that it only indexes pages submitted by it's users, and which conform to it's requirements:
http://wiby.me/submit/
Admittedly, it's kind of a novelty, but it's a nice way to find oldschool-style websites.

Anyone who likes the old internet and longs for it's return should host a personal website, either on a computer at home or from someone else's server. Whether it's a blog, a small file hosting site, a tutorial site, or something else. The basics of HTML are not difficult to learn and you can be motivated by the fact that the old internet was made great by individuals, not corporations (they only provided the infrastructure). And of course submitting it wiby is probably a good idea.

Finally, I know people make fun of this person on /g/, but his video about the basics of HTML is actually pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJadKSKA7Mg

>> No.21956656

>>21956644
One thing I forgot to mention about small websites: consider hosting a 4chan-style website. There are FOSS ways of doing so the barrier to entry is not massive (although, I admit I do very little web stuff in my programming). Even if you don't host it for more than a couple years I think it's worth it. Small chans come and go, and I always think they're just neat.

>> No.21956659

>>21956583
Are these "gay pedo books" in the room with us right now?

>> No.21956718

>>21953134
I know this is bait but these kind of people are literally the ones ruining every single board, not just /lit/. /v/ and /tv/ are basically no different than /b/ these days with all the tranny and nigger spam.

>> No.21956733

>>21954613
>>21954966
The 20th for Quixote it is then. But I really wish it were sooner since I am 150 pages in rn.

>> No.21956747 [DELETED] 

>>21956718
I visited /b/ recently and it is a complete shitshow compared to pre-2016

>> No.21956754

>>21956583
>>>/pol/
>>>/his/

faggots, shitting up the board

>> No.21956770

>>21956733
just wait a bit, reminisce on the 150 pages until then.

>> No.21956780

>>21956747
it's absolutely chaotic on /b/

>> No.21956800

/tv/ discussing their favorite movie:
>the furnishings of the character's home really illustrate the internal conflict between his loyalty to his family and his own ideas of justice and honor. It ties into the jarring transition in framing between the interior and exterior shots, itself a commentary on the erratic manipulation of tension in the film's soundtrack, on par with the longshot revolution in cinematography of the mid-2000s. That's what really establishes this film as the pinnacle of the director's ongoing thematic exploration of man's eternal struggle to separate himself from nature.

/lit/ discussing their favorite book:
>uh... can you say based?

>> No.21956814

>>21956800
it's because /pol/ and /his/ fags are trying to one up each other

>> No.21956838

>>21956800
You're really relying on your audience here knowing nothing about /tv/ lmao

>> No.21956974

We desperately need a Religion and Philosophy board for all the pseuds and proselytizers.

>> No.21956983 [DELETED] 

>>21956974
yes. if it's not literary theory or aesthetics, it should be off-topic. not to mention none of the people in those threads even read the shit they spam. also all the wannabes shilling their books need to get moved to /biz/ with all the other lame shills.

>> No.21956998
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>stay true to you, anon

>> No.21957009

>>21956974
agreed

>> No.21957047

>>21956983
Why did janny delete this? Anon was right.

>> No.21957078

my interest in /lit/ is winding down. there's just very little that interests me on here anymore. i think blood meridian will be the last book i discussed on /lit/. it wasn't even a good discussion.

>> No.21957180

>>21957078
well there are few good thread coming up, possible group reading of don quixote on 20th of may

>> No.21957200

>>21957047
you know why

>> No.21957224 [DELETED] 

>>21957078
We're at the end of history, nobody gives a fuck anymore about anything... just give people vidya, booze, weed, porn and a society to conform into... and that's it, the establishment won! Trannies on ALL the beers!

>> No.21957246

>>21957224
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

>> No.21957269

>>21954248
Evola discussion has died down. Keep up.

>> No.21957308 [DELETED] 

>>21957246
Hey, I did post a couple links to the full The Shitkickers book above. You could be reading it tonight and having a laugh!

>> No.21957319

>>21957308
kys

>> No.21957325 [DELETED] 

>>21957319
You are a complete fucking faggot. I posted a book I lovingly crafted and posted for free, while you are nothing more than a piece of shit who doesn't write and tells an actual, real author, to kill himself on a literature board.

You should kill YOURSELF, I'm going to keep writing, bitch.

>> No.21957330

>>21957325
you should keep writing, but don't fucking dare to shill your book to me

>> No.21957331

>>21953744
what did you expect? /pol/tards only like christianity for the aesthetics. it's all an act.

>> No.21957334 [DELETED] 

>>21957330
It's free you fucking loser. Free. How is it SHILLING you stupid fuck when it is FREE you absolute fucking loser?

>> No.21957337

>>21957334
if I want to read it, then I'll read it. who the fuck are you? telling me what to do. what a miserable life you have

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>>21957337
You fucking loser, I dropped the link to my 2nd novel that I spent countless hours writing, so that people here could read a book by an independent artist and be entertained. The book has some nods to the culture from /lit/ and /pol/, and you tell me to kys?

Do you ever wonder why the literary world and entertainment business is full of faggots, cunts, kikes, niggers and every other mystery meat but very few straight white guys? YOU ARE THE REASON FAGGOT. YOU FUCKING LOSER.

>> No.21957362

>>21957344
I understand that you are a human being (mentally deranged as you might be) and you care about things, in your case, your book. but you can't just fucking insult me and tell me to read your book.
and I love independent artists btw.

>> No.21957370 [DELETED] 

>>21957362
kys

>> No.21957385

>>21952985
>no question begging bait OPs
>no jezebel OP pics
>jannies that actually prune redudant non-catalogue checking OPs
>no snowflake critique OPs, writing general pinned
Effort posters come and go.

>> No.21957395

>>21957370
after you

>> No.21957418

>>21957385
true

>> No.21957420

>>21957344
Jason, cool your boots man. I understand that you're mighty proud of your work (as a man should be) and you want to defend it but don't lash out like this, it's unbecoming. Think of your son; what would he feel, seeing his father like this? Take your meds if you haven't. Calm down. Breathe. Be here now.

Also, going on racist/sexist/homophobic tirades is not a good look if you want to be taken seriously as a writer, here or elsewhere. I strongly advise against it.

>> No.21957426

>>21957420
this is what I wanted to say, thank you for this. I hope he acts rationally

>> No.21957431 [DELETED] 

>>21957426
>>21957420
There is no path to being a "writer" when you're banned from all social media already anyways. I'm already an outcast, and I'm fine with it, but this fucking faggot told me to KYS after I posted a book for people to enjoy, for free!

Straight up FUCK that piece of complete shit crab.

>> No.21957453

>>21957431
look m8, I appreciate you for posting you book for the enjoyment of people, "for free!!". But why are you being so aggressive? I apologies for telling you to kys. I hope you get better. no joke, no troll

>> No.21957454

>>21957431
If this >>21957426 is the same anon you had a spat with, he seems like a reasonable enough lad to me -- perhaps he would like to offer an apology for his rather harsh comment? Then we can all have a puff on the peace pipe and go on our merry ways.

>> No.21957458

>>21957453
See, he didn't even need me to prod him. Good on ya anon!

>> No.21957464

>>21957454
I do apologies. I don't like to hurt people's feelings (believe it or not), and I do regret offending him. I can see that he is not in his best state of mind and I hope he gets better

>> No.21957492 [DELETED] 

>>21957464
I mean, why would you tell an author on a literature board to kill themselves after they are giving a gift to the people of the board? Like are you fucked in the head or something? Why are you a fucking crab?

>> No.21957505

>>21957492
meds, now!!

>> No.21957511

>>21957492
you are beyond redemption

>> No.21957516 [DELETED] 

>>21957511
>>21957505
You people make this board so shit. What a useless fucking place full of losers.

>> No.21957517

>>21957308
>>21957319
>>21957325
>>21957330
>>21957334
>>21957337
>>21957344
>>21957362
>>21957370
>>21957395
>>21957420
>>21957426
>>21957431
>>21957453
>>21957454
>>21957458
>>21957464
>>21957492
>>21957505
>>21957511
>>21957516
FAKE and GAY manufactured """""feud""""" to whip up viral interest in jewish shillslop of the week
You should ALL kill yourselves (especially the guy who goes on about crabs)

>> No.21957526

>>21957516
What is your major malfunction?

>> No.21957529 [DELETED] 

>>21957517
Jewish shillslop?

>> No.21957532

>>21957517
anon it's not fake, that jason guy or whatever his name is, he's calling me a crab. kek

>> No.21957535

>>21957532
i think he's trying to use the analogy of 'crabs in a bucket'

>> No.21957587

>>21957516
pls eat a creampie and chill, cuck

>> No.21957654 [DELETED] 

>>21957587
You do realize that if you're a straight white male writer there are SO few groups or organizations that will actually promote your work, right?

If I were a queer black woman, it would be SO much easier to get my work out into the world. SO many organizations that would tweet and talk about your work.

As a straight white male, literally there are no organizations designed to help promote art by your group. None.

>> No.21957664

>>21957654
>If I were a queer black woman
you can become one if you want

>> No.21957678 [DELETED] 

>>21957664
It's just funny to witness how there is ZERO support for the straight white male artist. You cannot be based on social media, you cannot find any organization to promote your shit. You are completely and totally alone if you are not beholden to some kike organization or some mainstream publisher that will cancel your ass the moment you step out of the cathedral.

There is a total stranglehold on culture, and even in the dark places of the internet full of fellow outcasts, you can't get any support. I don't think a single person even read my free book from here.

I mean, if you ever complain about shit being woke or the themes in modern TV and movies, you only have yourself to blame. There are brilliant writers like myself with fresh ideas and dissenting views, but if we have nobody to pump our tires, you get the goyslop media you deserve.

>> No.21957708

>>21957678
I'll read your book anon, don't worry

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It's very simple, force high-effort posts and recieve high-effort posters. Ban and delete any of the following on sight and you'll get a slower and higher-quality board:
>Any post with a wojak/pepe
>Any post about politics
>Any post about race
>Any post about culture wars
>Any post where the OP uses the following "LE X is BAD/GOOD", "What did I/You think of X", "Who was in the wrong here?" "Now that the dust has settled...",
>Any post about e-celebs
>Any self-promotion outside of /WG/ because fuck Card, Gardner and Ma
>Any post on /WG/ that amounts to "Nobody will make it", "You are shit" and other crab bullshit because it's gotten to the point some threads don't have anything posted because of those faggots
>A general for "showing off": book editions, shelf threads etc.

>> No.21957791

>>21957745
it could be done

>> No.21957795

>>21957791
>>21957745
basically, we need to gatekeep /lit/ more. if you keep your house open, all sorts of faggots will come in and shit all over it

>> No.21957806 [DELETED] 

>>21957745
Some good ideas, anon. I'll try my best to not get angry and drop slurs. I spend like 90% of my time on this board anonymously encouraging other people to write and to enjoy an adventurous life in a time where everything is as corporate, sterile and cucked as possible.

>>21957708
I am confident that if people actually read my book, they will like it. It really gets fucking crazy after the 1st act. Very proud of my work. It is a dark book with a little humour mixed in.

>> No.21957823 [DELETED] 

>>21957795
Would be nice if people could be a little more kind to each other. We're mostly all here because regular society has deemed us as outcasts. I remember when I stood outside the government liquor store in Westbank Kelowna, in about 4 hours on the Friday from 6 PM-10 PM in -15 weather, then the next day, Saturday, it was even colder and I stood outside for 6 hours holding my sign. I made $300 + some tips, and the first thing my mother-in-law said when she heard about the money I made was "Why doesn't he get a job driving a truck or something?"

It wasn't "oh, he sold 15 books standing in front of a liquor store?" It was right away a dig at me for even trying to do art. I looked up local truck driving jobs for kicks and the wages out here were like $20 an hour to drive a truck. Only $6 an hour more than the $14 an hour I made driving a truck nearly 25 years ago when my rent was only $400 a month and you could buy like 4-5 bags of groceries for $50.

People like us truly have nobody on our side, at all.

>> No.21957834 [DELETED] 

>>21957823
The best part is, I actually did apply for a bunch of driving jobs because I love my family. I got 3 interviews and all three required the COVID vaxx. Fuck that shit. I did manage to score a part time job and I made a living this winter shoveling snow for like 7-9 hours a day. Would be nice to be able to make money with my strongest asset, my mind, but when you're banned everywhere on social media, it is difficult to sell a book.

>> No.21957845

>>21957678
Have you tried to get your work publish at all? Just because you heard that they "don't accept manuscripts from straight white male artist" doesn't mean you shouldn't try (unless you have already).

Also stop bitching like this, not even F. Gardener acts like this and people somehow still read his garbage.

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>>21957834
Dude wtf is this? The first sentence doesn't even make sense.

>> No.21957862

>>21952985
Do you mean bullying book reviewers on YouTube?

>> No.21957867 [DELETED] 

>>21957845
I've been to several Writer's Fest type events, at least a dozen since 2015, and I was the only straight white guy at nearly every one of them.

When I was trying to hire an editor before, I had about 2-3 replies in a couple of months.
>I switched the ad to a gay sounding name like Starla Wonderchild or something equally mystical and gay, then advertised I was working on an LGBT novel and needed and editor and I had 50+ applications in like 2 days.

I don't believe for a second that a straight white guy with even mild dissenting views like mine would ever get published traditionally. I'm not even allowed on social media, either. It's completely fucking useless to try the mainstream route because there is no organization that would take the risk of working with me JUST on my anti-COVID vaccine stance. That alone makes me untouchable, let alone my views that Canada has been completely sold out and that we are in a generational war of the old and established VS the young and totally ass-fucked.

I mean, sure, I could try a pen name and pretend to be someone else to get published, but that feels like a total bitch move. Why would I want to hide? Because I'm a non-person in the conformist world of 2023?

Is there even a SINGLE "rebellious" publishing house? When I toured all of the bookstores in my hometown of Vancouver, every single one was extremely woke and had tons of commie shit on the windows, the books front and center were all "decolonize" and other bullshit. Then when I moved to Kelowna, I hit the bookstores up locally and every single one was also extremely woke, then I joined a couple of book clubs and all four of them only wanted to read books about queerness and First Nations stories. I'm not opposed to broadening my horizons, but when the ENTIRE community and industry is hyper-focused on woke performative shit, it is hard to even want to be a part of it.

Hell, when I stuck around for the lectures and workshops at the Writer's Fest in either 2017 or 2018, I shit you not that each speaker that got up on stage ALL OF THEM did a land acknowledgement. I sat through like 3 hours of speakers and must have heard "I'd like to acknowledge that I'm speak on native land of the Fiefhweflwsehfwefhow people", I almost thought I was watching a parody sketch. Do we need to know we're on "native land" more than a dozen times in 3 hours? What kind of ass-fuckery is this?

>> No.21957870 [DELETED] 

>>21957855
"The vigilante story is well-worn and used, it is still a popular topic, however, as I pour my own version into the literary world."

>> No.21957884

>>21957855
what did he mean by this?

>> No.21957889 [DELETED] 

>>21957884
"The vigilante story is well-worn and used, it is still a popular topic, however, as I pour my own version into the literary world."

>> No.21957906

>>21957870
Still doesn't make it good.

>>21957867
Do you have to express your views? Even as a writer whos just writing fiction? Do people really need to know you didn't take the vax? Are you trying to fuck with your own career to "look oppressed"? It doesn't even sound like you tried to show your "amazing masterpiece of prose" to the libs to try to get it published. You just assumed they won't take your shit for being a "cis-white male" which by your account are the only one whos even writing books in your area. Judging by the way you write, I doubt anyone would actually take your shit. How about you man the fuck up and fix your shitty prose and STOP BITCHING.

>> No.21957911

>>21957906
this

>> No.21957921

>>21957862
it didn't happen that often

>> No.21957940

>>21957889
what did he mean by this?

>> No.21957975 [DELETED] 

>>21957906
"shitty prose"

Get fucked loser, read the fucking book. It is excellent writing and these fucking idiots have only criticized the opening line because they are fucking morons who need to be spoon-fed. It's hard to be intelligent and have to write for an audience of fucking morons.

>> No.21957982 [DELETED] 

>>21957906
Are you a fucking moron? What about 2023 tells you that a straight white male writer with dissenting views can get a fair shake? I'm not even allowed on social media you fucking idiot, why would any mainstream publishing company even look at my shit when they can publish some tranny who wrote 30 chapters about the smell of their neo-vagina and easily sell it and market it, when how the FUCK are they going to market a book called "The Shitkickers" to an audience of mostly women you absolute fucking retard? Name ONE traditionally published alternative writer?

You're clearly delusional if you think dissenting voices have any fucking place in modern, traditional publishing. We do not even have a place on social media, instead, we have shitholes like this with complete faggots who do nothing but attack you over the opening line of your book because they are too stupid to understand shit without being spoon-fed.

Next book I'll make sure to write for a dumber fucking audience.

>> No.21957991 [DELETED] 

>>21957224
this is part of why /lit/ sucks. i made a post about how i am no longer interested in participating in /lit/ and some guy replies with a bunch of culture war bullshit. the masses have always been plebs by definition. the problem is they're now all over /lit/, and i don't want to be a part of that.

>> No.21957995 [DELETED] 

>>21957982
the thread was about the state of /lit/ and one of those narcissistic wannabes comes in and makes the thread all about himself. this site is done.

>> No.21958001 [DELETED] 

>>21957995
>>21957991
Go fuck yourselves, I'm going back to lurking, but instead of encouraging people to write and telling people to follow their dreams, I'm going to shit all over them, tell them they are NEVER going to make it, and tell them to kill themselves. I sincerely hope I can bully someone into actually taking their fucking lives, that would be funny!

Fuck all of you faggots, I'm going to enjoy anonymously shitting all over people who aspire to write on here. I'm going to become the Megacrab.

>> No.21958066

>>21957975
>>21957982
>>21958001
You're an absolute bitch Jason. Sorry. The way you act is unironically moronic. F. Gardner is less of a bitch then YOU. Let that sink in. You are unironically acting like a woman. You are not making things look better for yourself. Now get off /lit/ and rethink your life choices. Maybe then you can actually come up with a good story that isn't shit.

>> No.21958121

>>21957975
>>21957982
>>21958001
man the fuck up faggot

>> No.21958198

>>21952985
I might get a good deal of shit for this post but fuck it.
I started using Kiwi Farms years ago after /cow/ died. I was genuinely shocked at how well limiting user registration and slapping "date joined" tag on user accounts was at filtering people. It really helped maintaining a consistent quality of discussions. Unironically the best replacement for /biz/ is on there and its surprising to see just how many categories of discussion there are beyond stalking internet retards.
If you don't mind a slow moving forum its actually a pretty comfy.

>> No.21958251

>>21958198
nah fuck that m8, I don't want to get doxxed

>> No.21958437

The innate structure of having to respond to keep a thread alive and the limited number of active threads and limited size of threads makes it impossible to have a truly deep meaningful conversation about anything on here. Books don't end on a character limit. You should write your 80 page essay and maybe a decade from now someone will write an 80 page essay in return. And that's how it should be. Long form communication is a lost art. Why go on /lit/ when I can just read a topic of interest?

>>21957745
You can't force a high effort post with the innate nature that is 4chan. Anonymity is not even an issue. Heavy moderation would just lead into a ghost town.

>> No.21959302

We did it guys. We turned the 44-year-old burnout into a Megacrab.

>> No.21959321

>>21959302
shut up fag, why are still here

>> No.21959348

>>21959321
Just woke up.

>> No.21959364

>>21959348
anyway, tell me about your writing process, how did you wrote your magnum opus, so to speak

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I was the anon who shitted on Lewis Woolston in his AMA thread, which was why Jason was so convinced that /lit/ has a "crabs-in-bucket" mentality. I didn't talk bad about Lewis Woolston because he was a "writer" but because he keeps shilling his book everywhere. Jason is the same. He claims to be an excellent writer whose work is equal to God's and will be loved if simply read, which is why he keeps posting images of his book's cover, and that /lit/ is some sort of hate-machine, but, simply put, his book is bad. It's the sort of ironic one-vacuous-random-attempt-at-shocking-you-moment-after-another claptrap that David Foster Wallace belittled in the 90s. There's no real human emotions or ideas in that book. More importantly, Jason can't seem to comprehend the possibility that his book is bad, and believes that any suggestion to the contrary is the utterance of wrathful "crabs". Reading this thread and seeing him so royally pissed off is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. His narcissism is hilarious.

>> No.21959480

>>21953017
I miss /l/ :(

>> No.21959482

>>21959433
and what happened to narcissus?

>> No.21959491

>>21959482
He lived happily ever after.

>> No.21959506

>>21959491
yeah nah, I've heard different things m8

>> No.21959571

>>21959433
I was sad to see the Woolston thread deleted, because a published author (even if it's a small press) taking questions from /lit/ without hiding his identity is pretty unique, and his advice can be helpful to other aspiring authors. I don't see it as strictly shilling. Woolston is not just some hate speech peddler from Twitter who wants to put his favorite /pol/pastas in a kindle book and make a quick buck; he's the genuine article, if only for picking the route he did. Now I can understand that cover-spamming can get on anyone's nerves though, and in the end Woolston's answers weren't all that enlightening. Still, anything and anyone that pushes /lit/ just a little bit out of selfpub hell is okay in my book. YMMV.

Jason is a dumb cunt who thinks art works like porn affiliate marketing. But hey, his book has one five-star rating on Amazon, what do I know? Perhaps his "fresh ideas and dissenting views" on feminazis and land acknowledgement are simply too hot me to handle.

>> No.21959957

>>21953346
this isn't /book/, it's /lit/. sci-fi isn't literature. kys

>> No.21959958 [DELETED] 

>>21959571
Kill yourself faggot.

>> No.21959960 [DELETED] 

>>21958121
Kill yourself nigger.

>> No.21959973 [DELETED] 

>>21953346
Kill yourself loser.

>> No.21960227

>>21958251
>I don't want to get doxxed
Yeah nobody cares who you are and here's a huge cyber security tip never use the same username and have several unconnected burner emails.
Congrats you just protected yourself from the doxing ability of 99% of the internet, outside of being fished or releasing personal info yourself you are practically undoxable.

>> No.21960231 [DELETED] 

>>21960227
How about you just kill yourself?

>> No.21960265

>>21952985
>implying that tradlarpers haven't saved the board

>> No.21960275

>>21960265
It didn't need saving, but now it needs saving from them.

>> No.21960298

>>21953894
>>21955532
At least some anons get it. There's no beating this board with Cioran, Land, Mishima, Evola and Spengler. Enough about Lolita and Blood fucking Meridian already.

>> No.21960300 [DELETED] 

>>21960298
Just end it all, anon, you know you want to

>> No.21960316

>>21960298
>Cioran, Land, Mishima, Evola and Spengler
permavirgin convention

>> No.21960392

>>21955895
Explain.

>> No.21960521

>>21955184
I just picked it up too, please do.

>> No.21960540

>>21953543
Start with 8th C. BC (Iliad), fool.

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>>21959433
Don't worry that fat fag deserved it for facefagging on 4chan and not being able to take banter. That thread had me rolling with laughter and I was half-considering joining in myself.

>> No.21960654

>>21952985


That was 2010 to 2011.


>That suspended anticipatory feeling when one was, both: a child during the "Y 2 K" era, and an adolescent during /lit/'s glory days: old enough to remember, and to partake of, the pulchritude of both, yet too young to participate in the itricacies of either.

Verily, born for the end.

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>>21952985
nope
quantum computers will burn to the ground everything what we knew about information technologies
Q-tech era + AI + wireless + BrainDirect + all owned by jewish pedophile trannies

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>>21957745
The average anon here doesn't even have the attention span to read a high-effort post nevermind reply with one of their own. Go find some friends who read irl instead relying on a group of losers at the ass-end of the internet.

>> No.21960976

>>21959957
>sci-fi isn't literature
but it is tho

>> No.21961059

>>21960521
don quixote reading - 20th may
the magic mountain reading - possible
the moby dick reading - weekly
the homer reading - 10th may

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>>21952994
I've been out for a while. What happened with the plotinus one? Did y'all akshually finish it? Or did it just fizzle out as usual?

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>>21955190

>> No.21961106

>>21960654
As a /lit/ OG, who barely even bothers to lurk here anymore, let alone post, this is true.

And most of the people talking about a return to /lit/'s glory days would go insane with how slow the board used to be. The sticky still talks about this place being slow, but it's light years faster now than what it once was.

>> No.21961111 [DELETED] 

>>21960540
>>21960626
>>21960654
>>21960743
>>21960807
>>21960976
>>21961059
>>21961070
>>21961084
>>21961106
kys

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>>21961111
kys to you too fren

>> No.21961146

>>21954242
What happened at this meeting? I recognise the 4chan mod, Tim pool and the podcast comedian.

>> No.21961232

>>21961059
Alright, I'll start the Magic Mountain reading myself.

>> No.21961237

>>21961232
thanks, I'll join

>> No.21961242 [DELETED] 

>>21961232
Kill yourself faggot nigger

>> No.21961244

No its not the purpose of the 4chan psyop is to destroy the lives of young men and erode society. 4chan will only get progressively worse as ot poisons everything it touches. Get out while you are not totally idocraced beyond salvation.

>> No.21961263

>>21961242
You can stop seething now Jason, someone already said they'll read your book.

>> No.21961270

>>21961237
Do you have any preferences or recommendations for timeframes?

>> No.21961283

>>21953134
>hey, let's share our favorite quotes or passages
There's nothing wrong with. this. Your other points are ok. /pol/bait, Chudcels, and /sci/ posters have to be banned and sent back to where they belong /pol/ or reddit.

>> No.21961298

>>21961270
>By most accounts, the German Nobel Laurete's novel is a difficult read. At over 700 pages, it is thick, dense, and occasionally a slog.

i don't know anon, what is your opinion

>> No.21961328
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Jason Bryan, on this very board two years ago:

>I won't make a single thread about [The Shitkickers] myself. You can mark my words. I hate Gardner and Waldun and everyone else who forces their mediocre writing with incessant threads as much as you do. My plan is simply to buy ads. If it catches on, it will be because people have seen its merit for themselves. If not, it will quietly fade away and never be seen here again.

>> No.21961337 [DELETED] 

>>21961328
kys

>> No.21961348
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>>21961337
Take cover! It's the Megacrab!

>> No.21961349

>>21961337
seeth, cope, dilate

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>>21961328
Is... is that him?

A man his age writes like pic related?

>> No.21961352

>>21961348
holy kek

>> No.21961362

>>21961351
To be entirely fair, that's a series of text messages. Them being terribly written is probably the only authentic thing in his "book".

Now, as for the rest of it... mama mia, the proses...

>> No.21961368

>>21961362
To be honest you're right; but if I ever wanted to be taken seriously as an author I would never use "uwu" in my novel.

>> No.21961389 [DELETED] 

>>21961368
kys

>> No.21961391 [DELETED] 

>>21961362
lol I haven't seen a single person quote anything beyond the first page

kys

>> No.21961418

>>21961368
Well, see now JB here is blazing a new path -- paved with self-pity and strewn with expired redpills -- and turning his back on establishment trifles like grammar, tenses and taste. He's the truth-slinging outlaw of Gastown, the coke dick crusader, the midlife crisis supernova set to swallow all of British Columbia. You come at the king...

>> No.21961429 [DELETED] 

>>21961418
>>21961368
You guys are total faggots, I'm going to just keep writing but profit off porn while you people struggle to even get 10 readers with your shit books

If you DO get any following, it is because you study what the market wants and needs and you'll write for a market and not for yourself, your writing will be the equivalent of flipping burgers at McDonald's because nothing you do will be from the heart, it will be written for a market for profit and not because you genuinely believe in your work or pour your heart out.

Fuck you all

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>>21961429
Yes Jason; but never call yourself a good author who "is based and redpilled".

For you'll forever be known as a man who writes about gay sex.

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>>21961429
>my "darn kids these days" talking points and 2016 /pol/ buzzwords are from the heart
>rest of y'all are just fake fake fake!!!
How does one get this delusional? You're such a huge pussy Jason. It's like you've got foreskin all over your body. You claim to speak and write for them, but you're an embarrassment to straight white dudes worldwide. Momma not hug you enough? Or too much, perhaps? It's like planet Earth orbits around your massive wounded ego. The only thing that sucks harder than your personality is your sorry excuse for "writing", and no matter how many hissy fits you throw about that objectively settled fact on 4chan your glory days of skeezy rape dungeons are not coming back you saggy old cunt. Pack it in.

>> No.21961482

>>21961477
Uh, Shitsisters... our response?

>> No.21961497 [DELETED] 

>>21961479
Did you take your vaccine faggot bitch?

>> No.21961500 [DELETED] 

>>21961477
Wasn't me nigger kike, I'm banned from Goodread since 2013, lifetime ban for saying "50 Shades of Grey is for fat women who wish they could be slutsd"


kys

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>>21961500
Jason you're lying and you know it.
Also happy early birthday!

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Hey guys! It's me, Jason Bryan, peddler of gay erotica!

>> No.21961537

>>21961521
>jasonjuststopbroplease.png
you really have to stop jason. you are permanently damaging your reputation for no gain

>> No.21961540 [DELETED] 

>>21961521
kys

Why wouldn't I promote faggotry if I wrote it, retard?

So much easier to sell books about being a tranny or a faggot than a straight white male

>> No.21961543 [DELETED] 

>>21961537
What reputation? Like I give a fuck at all, I am already banned everywhere, I have zero ability to speak online outside of here and YouTube comments

kys

>> No.21961544

well this thread derailed

>> No.21961547

>>21961543
>kys
you know those words don't mean nothing coming out of your mouth

>> No.21961555

>>21961544
yes, because jason here, forgot to take his meds!
>meds, now jason!!

>> No.21961593

>>21961544
You know what's funny, many of the "acdemica" based boards on 4chan have been having these similar threads about how shitty the site has become. Mostly on /lit/, /his/ and /sci/.

Has it really gotten that bad?

>> No.21961601

>>21961593
>Has it really gotten that bad?
yes it has, and I think many of the "people" here are looking for entertainment rather that having an actual thoughtful conversation.

as the anon said above:
>Any post with a wojak/pepe
>Any post about politics
>Any post about race
>Any post about culture wars
>Any post where the OP uses the following "LE X is BAD/GOOD", "What did I/You think of X", "Who was in the wrong here?" "Now that the dust has settled...",
>Any post about e-celebs
>Any self-promotion outside of /WG/ because fuck Card, Gardner and Ma
>Any post on /WG/ that amounts to "Nobody will make it", "You are shit" and other crab bullshit because it's gotten to the point some threads don't have anything posted because of those faggots
>A general for "showing off": book editions, shelf threads etc.

>> No.21961609 [DELETED] 

>>21961593
kys

>> No.21961612

>>21961601
On that remark, I meant to say that most of all the boards here have become worse; not just the academic boards. Is 2023 the worst year for 4chan?

>> No.21961613

>>21961609
this >>21961547

>> No.21961614

>>21961601
Noooo we can teach them our ways while remaining a free speech website without paywall and accounts based on interests, not using personal information as stakes for not taking a literal shit in the public square or using branded bandanas as 38 inch dildos. I bet the 4chan godis would appreciate that! *trans trans trans trans trans*

>> No.21961621

>>21961612
yeah, it very well might be. I also think it will get worse as the time goes by. I'm a web developer and i was thinking that maybe I should create my own site for the discussion of literature, but getting the traffic on that type of site in 2023 is close to impossible

>> No.21961628

>>21961621
Will, there's a website called wapchan thats already planning to have a /lit/ board.

link:
test dot wapchan dot org slash lit slash

>> No.21961634 [DELETED] 

>>21961628
kys

>> No.21961635

>>21961621
A chan with different boards depending on the topic at hand (scripture, philosophy, drama, fiction, poetry, nonfiction, etc) would be ideal, but yeah, getting it going would be real tough.

>> No.21961636

>>21961628
i will check it out. thanks

>> No.21961640

>>21952985
Yeah.
It is easy. Stop shitposting and actually start reading books.

>> No.21961652

>>21961612
Eh. Every gen says the one that comes after is worse. Every year anons say 4chan got worse. Does anything really change?

>> No.21961664

>>21961652
I mean; if anyone has screenshots of this place before 2016, it'll probably be a completely different environment then it is now.

>> No.21961666

>>21961111
Boys should kys boys, and girls should kys girls

>> No.21961669

>>21961664
https : // 4chanarchives . com/board/lit/1476

>> No.21961682

>>21961298
There are 7 chapters. How about one a week starting on Monday the 8th?

>> No.21961693

>>21961682
all right, I'm in

>> No.21961705

>>21961669
It's surreal not seeing "nigger" and "tranny" not being repeated in every thread.

>> No.21961718

>>21961612
>Is 2023 the worst year for 4chan?
I would say 2022 was worse simply because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. That event alone killed one of the sites best boards /k/, which has turned into a proxy war for /pol/ and /int/. With the next US presidential election on the horizon we can expect 2023 to become significantly worse though. Hell even /an/ was killed because of reddit catfags post 2016. Lucky /out/ has managed to stay pretty unaffected so thats become my bastion on this dying site.

>> No.21961721

>>21961664
As that OG, I can say that's definitely true. But a tipping point was reached many years ago. Maybe even a decade.

My hazy memories of early days /lit/ were how incredibly slow it was (kind of like /trv/ outside of Japan threads). There was much more philosophy and religion talk before /his/ took a bunch of that. We memed Tao Lin, bitched more about whether it was pleb or not to read in translation, discussed more the nature of art and its value. This was probably all over by the time of The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra. Maybe that was the last gasp.

>> No.21961723

>>21955029
>>21957078
>>21960298
Difference is that it's now an even lower quality discussion

Blood Meridian thread 8 years ago:
https ://4chanarchives. com /board/ lit/ thread /7380 990

>> No.21961744

>>21961721
nostalgic : (

>> No.21961748 [DELETED] 

>>21961744
>>21961723
kys faggots

>> No.21961809

>>21961652
I started browsing /lit/ during the heyday of accelerationism and cosmotechnics/spacetaoism on /lit/. People were more articulate and erudite, and you could have interesting discussions on even the more obscure thinkers. These days a thread about Kant or Hegel will be 95% /pol/lacks shitposting.

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>>21961652
>Eh. Every gen says the one that comes after is worse.
If given the choice would you prefer to have been born in 1970 or 2000?
>Every year anons say 4chan got worse.
Its really something you just kinda had to be there to understand.

>> No.21961867

>>21961840
Anon, I was there in the early years. And I ain't necessarily proud of it. But 4chan hasn't changed much on a macro level. Yeah, /lit/ was better back in the day, yeah /x/ used to be more original, /asp/ was funnier than /pw/, but overall there was stupid, overused meme spam back then and there's cancerous meme spam now. It's just a different flavour.

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>>21955190
It's not, you've just been browsing the same dozen or so sterilized websites for over a decade and now you've been shut out of niche internet culture. You want the old days? They exist, small forums still exist, personal websites still exist, but no. You're comfortable here on 4chan, on reddit, Facebook, etc. and now you're bitching that the culture has changed. It has, you're just too much of a normie to see that you've also changed. If you want that niche internet culture, go find it. Otherwise, stay on your precious Mongolian basket weaving forum, old man.

>> No.21962321

>>21952985
>glory days
Lol there are no glory days.
Board was made to late for it to develop any culture of its own.

>> No.21962417

>>21962321
/thread

>> No.21962420

>>21962417
thread

>> No.21962780

>>21962321
>>21962417
>>21962420
Zoomies mad!
Five and ten year olds when we wuz a damn good board. Now that you’re here, the place is shit.

>> No.21962809

>>21953134
Most of that is /pol/ shit except for the favorite quotes and passages thread. The janny is doing his job, that shit shouldn't be clogging up a board that's intended to discuss literature.
>b-but it indirectly relates
Kill yourself

>> No.21962829

>>21953209
This for Ulysses, Moby Dick, Stoner, White Noise, Magic Mountain, Gravitys Rainbow, and Infinite Jest

>> No.21962946

>>21962829
yes but BM thread are keep popping up like hydra agents

>> No.21962955

>>21956644
Found this website by chance, with the Surprise me option of the SE, it's hilarious
http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/classics.shtml

>> No.21963645

>>21962829
>Stop discussing literature
You are the problem

>> No.21963725

/lit/ is a noreads board
it's that simple
people larp and use the classics and canon as a fashion accessory like narcissistic women to posture having high intellect and being well read when they're just wikipedia warriors or archive scrollers spouting other peoples opinions
>X author said this Y philosopher said that
>im gonna screenshot this anons takedown of an author and use it as ammunition
the only way this board gets saved is people discussing current literature which won't happen because this is a noreads board and anything that comes out isn't worth reading because it's not dostoevsky or melville

>> No.21964324

Well it's official, no real solution other then:

MAKE MORE GOOD THREADS AND KEEP IT GOOD!

>> No.21964414 [DELETED] 

>>21964324
kys

>> No.21964450

>>21962103
Yeah I still post on an obscure anime forum that's been around since 2008 and just the other day on /tv/ someone posted a contemporary old-school gore site. It's out there.

>> No.21964498

>>21964324
>this is a slow board
It was a slow board which could have threads survive for more than a week for quality to persist. That now requires jannies with discernment, taste, and not too heavy a hand. Moderation across the site is comped, so the odds of that apart from some concerted infiltration effort is off the table.

>> No.21964599 [DELETED] 

>>21964498
kys

>> No.21964616 [DELETED] 

>>21964450
kys

>> No.21964634 [DELETED] 

>>21964616
>>21964599
kys

>> No.21964650 [DELETED] 

>>21964634
kys

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Is there a reason why these shills are so narcissistic?

>> No.21964682 [DELETED] 

>>21964664
kys take my photo down faggot.

>> No.21964694

You would first need to purge all remnants of /pol/ and /r9k/, and then anyone who discovered 4chan from tumblr, twitter, reddit, instagram, or tiktok.

>> No.21964699

>>21964694
what are the kosher ways of discovering 4chan?

>> No.21964701

>>21964699
from something awful forums and encyclopedia dramatica in the 2000s

>> No.21964705

>>21964699
by looking for 4 Jackie Chan best movies

>> No.21964714

>>21964701
I came here from SA and I'm very /pol/ although I find actual /pol/ unusable

>> No.21964728

>>21964664
>JDC
>Gardner
>Unreal Press
Any other wannabe ecelebs that should be banned on sight?

>> No.21964729 [DELETED] 

>>21964694
>>21964699
>>21964701
>>21964705
>>21964714
>>21964728
kys

>> No.21964738

>>21964699
I genuinely dont even remember how I found it. I think the first time I ever stumbled across /b/ was in 2007 but I dont remember what linked me there. It was probably something like funnyjunk

>> No.21964740

>>21964728
>BAP
>Michelle Ma
>gay erotica author Jason Bryan

>> No.21964744

>>21956062
>The Shitkickers is a 5-star book
>he says for one review he gave himself

>> No.21964752 [DELETED] 

>>21964744
How do you even give your own book a 5 star review? I'd add another 5 star right meow if I knew how!

>> No.21964858

we could always write another Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra

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>>21956800
>/tv/ discussing their favorite movie:

>> No.21964942

>>21953757
Was I the only one who thought Chiken World prose was stilted?

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>>21964664
Some are just run-of-the-mill grifters who chanced upon writing as their scam of choice. Then you have the other, sadder category. The genuinely mentally ill. Graphomaniacs and manifesto-pushers, sometimes egged on by anons who profess an infantile penchant for "schizo lit".

Both display a complete ignorance (or utter rejection) of established literary culture. Like any coping hack, they're "above it". "It" might even be a conspiracy to keep them down. They unironically think that the conditions that were in place hundreds if not thousands of years ago, the primordial chaos, can be transposed to 2023 bean-counter world. The grifters believe in the "Old Weird America" snake oil method of making it big, which they hilariously apply to literature of all things. The schizos see themselves as standing shoulder to shoulder with the Penguin Classics of the past who bravely defied the Roman Empire, the Church, the Soviet censors. In total contrast to any normal human being's response, they take the blanket indifference to their "work" as a sign that they're right. "They" are stamping out fresh ideas and dissenting views. If only "they" listened. Why won't "they" listen?

But the most interesting cases are the ones who mix a bit of both into a daring synthesis. Take our guy Jason Bryan here. In his mid-30s, he basically tanked his entire career (if not his life) to "speak the truth" about... dating in Vancouver. By his own admission, he gets thrown out of every website he frequents. The man is insane. Nothing he writes will ever match up to the rubbernecking pleasures involving the unmitigated disaster that is his life, the details of which we're generously treated to whenever he suffers a manic episode.

For every eccentric genius there's a million non-geniuses; plain weirdos who should be kept away from children and vacuum cleaners.

>> No.21964955

>>21957325
Thank you. Will read next.

>> No.21964960 [DELETED] 

>>21964955
kys

>>21964954
kys

>> No.21964963

>>21957855
Is he ESL?

>> No.21964972 [DELETED] 

>>21964963
kys

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>>21957855
>>21957870
Now these are some deep plots.

If the first line is this pregnant with meaning, imagine the rest of the book!

>> No.21964984 [DELETED] 

>>21964981
kys, we won't know until people actually take quotes from the rest of the book in context

>> No.21965004

>>21964752
you are absolutely retarded

>> No.21965013

>>21952985
OP here, how tf is this thread still going, don't you faggots have work or reading to do?

>> No.21965024

>>21965004
kys

>> No.21965026

>>21952985
>death in venice
LMFAO

>> No.21965032

Look how they massacred my boy...

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Kek, his posts got deleted!
Luckily, I was busy screenshotting this thread.

>> No.21965036

>>21965032
>Look how they massacred my boy...
what did he mean by this?

>> No.21965037

>>21965034
Jason, why are you capping your own posts and pretending to laugh at yourself? It this some cool new marketing strategy?

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Kek, his posts got deleted!
Luckily, I was busy screenshotting this thread.

>> No.21965040

>>21965036
he got snuffed

>> No.21965045

>>21965037
I'm not Jason, I just screencap interesting threads. I screencapped the guy who bought "elephant hide" Lord of the Rings edition, too, actually.

>> No.21965046

>>21965038
too much effort, seek grass

>> No.21965047

>>21962829
Moby dick, GR and Ulysses aren't nearly as constantly gay

>> No.21965056

>thread snatched from of the jaws o' bump limit death because JB got got
MODS=GODS

>> No.21965061

>>21965046
Jason, it's against the rules to evade bans.

>> No.21965062

>>21965056
kek'd

>> No.21965066

>>21965061
that's me, the OP you moron. jason is not here

>> No.21965078

>>21965066
>jason is not here
That's exactly what Jason would say

>> No.21965085

>>21965078
lamo, he would've said:
>kys kys kys
>faggot kys
>crab

it's fascinating how mentally unstable people think

>> No.21965095

>>21963645
Discuss literature, sure, but its the same circle jerked books and you're lying to yourself if you pretend there's no echo chamber

>> No.21965119

>>21965095
then introduce new books to /lit/, make threads about them, let us know your taste. it will inspire at the very least one anon to read the book

>> No.21965120

>>21959480
i miss world4ch

>> No.21965141

>>21965120
>the world you grew up in, no longer exists

>> No.21965155

>>21962955
>A screaming thing comes across the sky. It's a V-2 rocket carrying twelve thousand pounds of symbolism, and it's coming down on your poor, deluded, postmodern head.

>>21965141
Was that a post successful screen? I only remember the "here comes a chopper" and "flag on the moon... how did it get there?" ones

>> No.21965163

>>21965155
idk anon

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>>21964897
Yeah /tv/ has really gone to shit since about 2017, worst part is that all this "woke" "pozzed" race swapped shit just keeps bringing more and more of /pol/ over. Now we got Vidya shit bringing over /v/ and /a/ posters, even more recently we got Fishtank and Oppenheimer shills destroying the board.
Honestly what I am dreading more than anything is whatever the fuck Amazon or Netflix or whomever is doing with Warhammer. We had that announcement, just the announcement that they were doing something with that IP, we didn't even know if it was /co/, /a/ or /tv/. Within minutes those motherfucking /tg/ spergs were spamming thread after thread before they finally made a general to discuss Warhammer on fucking /tv/. Even still they had the gall to complain about the Avatar 2fags. Avatar 2 something that has been a meme on /tv/ for over a decade.

>> No.21965343

>>21965341
>faggot /pol/whiner "oldfag here" is a reddit spacer
die of AIDS pussy, /tv/ is great

>> No.21965346

>>21965341
you need to off this website anon, for your own good. touch some grass

>> No.21965351

>>21965343
coping hard

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>>21965343
>faggot /pol/whiner "oldfag here" is a reddit spacer
Kek its turning into /v/ for movies. I know you newfags hate being called out but we used to have this thing called board culture and it was a lot more fun when people used to engage with it.

>> No.21965444

>>21962955
gold

>> No.21966475

>>21965341
Why is Fishtank so big? Have zoomers never seen an episode of Big Brother?

>> No.21966489

>>21965095
Discussion of an argument is not the only way to be able to engage people.

Are you a bot?

>> No.21966609

>>21966489
yes

>> No.21966958

>>21965119
I do, a few respond who are knowledgeable. We stay in our lane and I come to these threads to make fun of you.

>>21966489
Yes

>> No.21966981

>>21966958
>and I come to these threads to make fun of you.
Is the autism that speak.

>> No.21968171

>>21957855
A 5-star book.

>> No.21968183

>>21966958
>I come to these threads to make fun of you.
retard

>> No.21968217

>>21964954
Well put. Reminds me of that faggot who spams the "i" video all the time.

>> No.21968434

>>21966981
>>21968183
Go read your Stoner, faggots

>> No.21968500

>>21968434
Go stone your Faggot, reader

>> No.21968509

>>21968500
Checked and kekd

>> No.21968690

>>21952985
zoomers dont read

>> No.21968782

>>21961621
Just shit up the board with posts about it its not like it'll matter not seeing 50 blood meridian threads

>> No.21968805 [DELETED] 

>>21952985
>4 days and 3 hours ago
good lord