/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21949579]

>Being a selfish rat and not caring for your community is good!
When did you grow out of Randism?

[Anonymous No.21949582]

>>21949579
Choke on a cock you lazy parasite

[Anonymous No.21949598]

>>21949579
>caring for your community
The rallying cry of the leech

[Anonymous No.21949603]

>>21949579
>When did you grow out of Randism?
I never even started

[Anonymous No.21949615]

>>21949582
>>21949598
>Billionares GOOD! Rich people GOOD! Baaaaaahhhhhhh, baaaaaahhhhh

[Anonymous No.21949651]

>>21949615
All of the antagonists are rich business owners that use their money to manipulate politics to steal money and other property from others. John Galt worked as a poor laborer for years to facilitate his plans, Dagny Taggart was an underpaid and unrecognized manager that had her competence exploited by her brother who actually owned the company she worked for, Henry Rearden invented a stronger form of steel that was prohibited for being too effective compared to competing products before the patent was taken from him under the threat of putting his employees at risk, etc. Have you read the book? It's about how innovative, hard working people have their work exploited by fortunately born capitalist heirs and the rewards of their labor stolen under the name of 'fairness' and 'equality' when the people doing the stealing are more privileged and out of touch than the people being stolen from, and what's being stolen never actually makes it to serve "the people" for which equality and equity is supposedly being fought for. All of the antagonists are absurdly wealthy members of the upper class using the poor and oppressed as an excuse to justify their own self gratification, and all of the protagonists give up incredible amounts of wealth to live simpler lives taking up trades in a small hidden community in the mountains.

[Anonymous No.21949730]

>>21949651
/thread

[Anonymous No.21949821]

Fountainhead was better, but yeah randists are autistic

[Anonymous No.21949914]

>>21949579
>Being a selfish rat and not caring for your community is good
Clearly didn't actually read the book.

[Anonymous No.21950005]

>it has been 7 trillion years later
>leftoids still cant argue against atlas
lets say you are a worker, you know, employed, not someone who larps 20 hours a day on reddit page called 'antiwork' (cant make this shit up)
lets say you are MORE productive, more efficient, more profitable, BETTER worker than the average
why would you want to collectivize?
why collectivize yourself with the inferiors, when you can just have private property and contract law?

no leftist has ever answered me
there is a reason leftism only ever produced famine and gulag, when you equalize superior and inferior, no one wants to try harder, all you get are inferiors, famine, and gulags

[Anonymous No.21950008]

>>21949579
Our "communities" put BLM signs on their lawns and simp for WW3 just so they can add another flag to their online bio. They deserve nothing but contempt and disdain.

[Anonymous No.21950018]

>>21949651
This makes sense, considering she was a commie under deep cover performing cultural terrorism to undermine capitalism in the USA.

[Anonymous No.21950026]

>>21950018
>>21949651
no retards, you forgot the central piece, the government
you cant exploit without a government
you cant have monopolies without a government
you cant have corruption and lobbying without a government
you cant have exploitative licences and regulations without a government

capitalism is not when a government does thing, abusing government is communist ideology
in atlas shrugged, atlas types just shrug the government off and create utopia based on private property and contract law, and zero government

[Anonymous No.21950067]

>>21949579
>your community
what community? My family lives in different states. I don't know my neighbors. Even if I did know them, they wouldn't want to spend any time with me. We have no social safety nets. We are completely alone. The social contract is gone.

[Anonymous No.21950078]

>>21949615
>Rich people are... le bad!
Is there any lazier and more public school worldview than this?

[Anonymous No.21950231]

>>21950005
It's normal for the stronger to help the weaker, it's a hardwired trait that has come to create the social contract. We do the hard stuff, they raise our babies, then the next generation takes care of us when we are old, etc
The problem is in the modern state we are just slaves, like the horse in animal farm we do all the shit work for those weaker and less capable and get none of the benefits, just more and more abuse and exploitation

[Anonymous No.21950532]

>>21949821
Cringe

[Anonymous No.21950685]

What's the appeal of her doorstoppers? She's an okay writer at best and her ideas aren't complicated. Even if you're drawn to her, why not just read Anthem and/or some essays, and save your reading time for basically anything else?

[Anonymous No.21950688]

>When did you grow out of Randism?

[Anonymous No.21950696]

>>21949651
Look at that, this guy actually read the book. Unlike faggot OP.

[Anonymous No.21950809]

>>21950685
her characters are an inspiration

[Anonymous No.21950853]

>>21950809
>Rapists and socipaths are inspirations
I'm glad to see the right wingers finally admit to who they are

[Anonymous No.21950883]

>>21950853
the only mass murderers in history are leftists

[Anonymous No.21950913]

>>21949579
When did leftists actually read anything they critique?

[Anonymous No.21950916]

>>21949579
Rand developed a reactionary cult of ideology that lures people in with veiled self-help. "Existence exists! Adopt these truths and you will master reality--just like John Galt. Those who criticize are 'collectivist' subhumans too weak to stand as an individual and understand that 'A is A.'" Her takes are overly simplistic and define reality by simply denying complexity. She promotes jargon/labels in an attempt to predefine perameters and negate actual discussion/criticism--just like Marxism, her ideas aren't falsifiable. Followers will assert that monopoly on semantics and retreat to tautological assertions instead of meeting criticism head on. Buying into Rand is payment for a self-esteem that proves unwarranted as the actual expense is a self-indoctrination that retards thinking. Randtards are ideologues and ideologues don't think, they regurgitate.

The easiest way to underscore her bullshit is to point out she asserts that the free market be characterized as an infaliable arbiter, basically deifying it in the process, when the reality is that it's a complex social mechanism that is never pure in the way Randianism requires. It's an emergent phenomena made up by inputs coming from limited human understanding and both moral and immoral impulses.

On top of all that you have the fact the leader of the cult didn't live up to her own ideas and accepted social security and medicare. The Randtard will assert she paid into these things and deserved them. They will not acknowledge they constitute a social safety net that Rand, due to her failure to plan for her financial future and poor life decisions that lead to ill health, reluctantly accepted. Basically, Randtards don't like it when you point out the flaws in their leader. They maintain the cognitive dissonance of seeing themselves as both free-thinking individualists that confront absolute reality and yet refusing to criticise the failures of their Dear Leader.

[Anonymous No.21950920]

Private property is the only way to care for your community.

[Anonymous No.21950922]

>>21950005
get a job and then you'll probably understand why workers organize

[Anonymous No.21950947]

>calling a democracy of appetites a community
retard

[Anonymous No.21950961]

>community
I don't even know my neighbor's neighbors. I moved far away from my birthplace to get away from brown people that have turned it into islamabad. I am an incel and women apparently don't owe me anything. My main contact with society at large is that I do make very decent money and half of it is stolen to fund boomer pensions, single moms, fatasses and drug addicts straining hur NHS, wars for man-on-man sex in the Donbass, and the above mentioned brown invaders.
Muh community.

[Anonymous No.21951006]

>>21950922
>get a job and then you'll probably understand why workers organize
Funny the one thing i realize is that people hate the government more for taxing the shit out of them rather than hating their employer when they actually get a job. Have you actually worked a day in ur life anon?

[Anonymous No.21951077]

>>21950922
its the leftists who feel entitled to a yacht for mopping floors or serving fast food
your hungry santa was the first on record to not understand value
the fuck is there to organize, when you have no value???
the issue has always been that you have no value

start a business, try to self employ, employ yourself, would you even pay yourself?

[Anonymous No.21951098]

>>21951077
Nta, but you have completely lost your mind. Move out of your parents house and get a fucking job. Oh, or start a business. So easy to do, right?

[Anonymous No.21951163]

>>21951098
i worked construction and had bleeding blisters on both hands and feet unlike your average leftist, learned a bunch more trades on the job, and got certified as electrician and a welder
im not even 30 yet ive built a restaurant and a warehouse for people, on top of countless fences, gates, stairs, shelves, roofs, concrete tile walkways, barns, i dont even fucking know all the places i got done or helped get done
im the go to guy for a bunch of people in my city when ever they want to renovate or physically expand their business

so why the fuck would i collectivize with you retards when contract law exists? im a worker, i am THE worker, what do i need marx for?

[Anonymous No.21951194]

>>21951163
Wait, why did tranny janny delete that post?

[Anonymous No.21951235]

>>21950026
>abusing government is communist ideology
Destroying government is a communist ideology.
They just explicitly say they need to use the State to get to communism first but, then, as soon as communism happens, the State will cease to exist.
So they stupidly believe.

[Anonymous No.21951284]

>>21950532
No u

[Anonymous No.21951471]

>>21949579
About 12 years ago

[Anonymous No.21951486]

Atlas Shrugged is a book about a wealthy heiress who is better at everything than everybody. She meets a man who creates a magic metal and together they search for man who built a magical friction-less motor. Standing in their way are parodies of socialist thought and the rest of the stupid unwashed masses. Eventually they find the motor man living in a hidden valley that can only be seen by smart people. In the valley, all of the smart live in a utopia where they've cured numerous medical maladies and refuse to share this with humanity. Also the residents believe society will collapse without their greatness, but just to be sure they've cut-off vital supply lines to the greater public. Eventually magic motor man is captured by evil stupid people at which point he launches into a 100 page tirade laying out in autistic detail his personal philosophy, destroying any subtlety encountered thus far. Super heiress and metal man, along with Beast and Jubilee, take the blackbird to rescue motor man just as he's being electrocuted by stupid people. After they successfully extract him using the powers of objectivism, a magical sound weapon built by stupid people explodes and the country is reduced to covered wagons within hours.

[Anonymous No.21951509]

>>21951486
She's right about socialists and the masses; they don't deserve anything.
They are, after all, Hegel's 'Knechtschaft'.

[Borderline !j94MBGdWC6 No.21951516]

>>21949579
Millions of years of evolution culminated in the zenith of human achievement with the formulation of the Randian tautology:
A=A

[Anonymous No.21951521]

>>21949651
He could be a villain
>muh effective altruism

[Anonymous No.21951935]

>>21949579
When did you gain some reading comprehension? The book never says that. It says that to people who it offends for asking them not to be lazy parasites on their communities.

>>21949615
>I CANT READ
>MOMMY MAKE COMMUNISM HAPPEN!
>BLM!

[Anonymous No.21951962]

>>21949579
>caring for your community
Yeah but is it voluntary? That's the part you guys seem to not address. Because if it's not voluntary then the people who decide what exactly "caring for your community" means suddenly have a whole lot of power to make you do whatever they want

[Anonymous No.21952093]

>>21951486
Nice.

[Anonymous No.21952174]

>>21949579
How's the fountainhead in comparison?

[Anonymous No.21952201]

>>21950026
>private property and contract law
>zero government
pick one

[Anonymous No.21952215]

>>21949579
I'll never read this yankee doorstopper but not supporting a diseased system is the only way to cure it

[Anonymous No.21952462]

>>21951235
that what they claim, but every time it was attempted it resulted in totalitarian states
every single time
abusing the state is communism in reality

[Anonymous No.21952517]

>>21950916
>Name calling
>Strawmen
>Complaining about semantics

Wow, such a solid and unique critique of the ideas put fourth by objectivist and Atlas Shrugged. I am totally convinced by your argumentation and thus will become a freedom hating collectivist of some sort. Probably some flavor of socialist.

[Anonymous No.21952558]

>>21952462
state can be abolished only globally
>arguing without knowing basics

[Anonymous No.21952676]

>>21952517
>Name calling
Go tell your mommy you thick skinned rugged individualist, kek.
>Strawmen
Nope.
>Complaining about semantics
I outlined how Randianism uses loaded terms in order to monopolize semantics and frame the conversation in its favor. Randtards won't acknowledge criticism and will attempt to assert their overly simplistic worldview instead of engaging complexity.

Everything I said is true and if you can prove it wrong feel free to try. The problem you're having is that I pointed out how Randtards debate and you won't be able to retreat to the regurgitation you confuse with thinking in this conversation. Cope.

[Anonymous No.21952695]

>>21952558
How does that make any sense. "Uh yeah this thing blatantly doesnt work but if we do it everywhere then it will work" ???

[Anonymous No.21952787]

>>21949598
>>21949582
>implying the leeches and parasites aren't the rich people

[Anonymous No.21952798]

>>21949579
My favorite thing about this book is that the rich asshole protagonists fight the scourge of collectivism by forming a commune.

[Anonymous No.21952815]

>>21951194
Because he was a lying 15 year old.

[Anonymous No.21952870]

>>21952695
how do you think abolishing government should work?
>How does that make any sense. "Uh yeah this thing blatantly doesnt work but if we do it everywhere then it will work" ???
brilliance of self awareness...

[Anonymous No.21952895]

>>21952870
>abolishing government should work?
It doesnt. It would just be anarchy briefly and then another state would emerge

[Anonymous No.21953027]

>>21952895
If communism ever comes back, I'm joining the Stazi so I can torture and execute true believers getting what they deserve.

[Anonymous No.21953153]

>>21952815
Even if that was true, which i doubt. Why would nigger janny delete that post?

[Anonymous No.21953156]

>>21952787
>Providing you with housing,water and electricity is leeching
>NOOOOO! LET ME LIVE ON YOUR PROPERTY FOR FREE!!!
Get a job nigger.

[Anonymous No.21953654]

I've never seen a successfull randist. No, 2000 karma on r/atheism isn't success

[Anonymous No.21953770]

>>21953654
There is literally a single type of successful randians - nouveau riche dipshits who lucked out into their petty wealth and then need to retroactively invent a belief why they deserve it. All serious people are some sort of weird combination of technocrats and ecofascists, or even marxists who turn the table and say "capital is good, actually".

[Anonymous No.21953977]

>>21953654
Its same as saying i have never seen a succsessfull communist.

[Anonymous No.21953992]

>>21953977
Yes it shouldn't need to be said considering how retarded both are but here we are

[Anonymous No.21954014]

Should I start with AS or Fountainhead?

[Anonymous No.21954053]

>>21954014
Start with Funtainhead. I read Atlas first and am about to finish Fountainhead today. I think foubtainhead might be the better book overall. Atlas is taking place all over the world, while Fountainhead is USA only. Start with the "smaller" book. Its fucking great, dont let the parasites discourage you.

[Anonymous No.21954066]

>>21949579
I still like Anthem, but after high school and I decided to do more psychedelics. I feel like I was less empathetic and wound up gaining that. Now I'm a commie SJW desu

[Anonymous No.21954071]

Arguing about Ayn Rand is the oldest and most authentic form of internet culture. Glad to see it is still alive.

[Anonymous No.21954101]

>>21950078
>>21950026
>>21951935
>>21952517
It's sad to see you seethe at people who want a better world. Private property is a plague from white people. We come from nothing, are nothing, and return to nothing. There is no need to own property in this transitory existence. It's your own selfish egos who do not want to help your kin

[Anonymous No.21954105]

>>21954101
>Private property is a plague from white people.
Is this a cope for you shitskins and ur failures as a civilisation?

[Anonymous No.21954112]

>>21953156
Stop sucking leech cock
Stop acting like landlords are here to help
They take your money and do fuck all on the property you live on with it
There's enough land to live on, but wealth hoarders would rather claim it as their own then give people means to live

[Anonymous No.21954114]

>>21954105
Every indigenous or spiritual culture understands that we are of the earth and its bounty should be shared. Inbred kings and queens want to stuff their faces and coffers while people suffer

[Anonymous No.21954124]

>>21954112
>Thinks he is entitled to someone elses property for free which they paid and worked for.
>Calls someone else a leech.
Again, get a job nigger. And learn to handle ur finance better so u can actually buy ur own property.
>>21954114
Which is why those indigenous people or spiritual culture live up to 30-40 years old before they die to some disease or starvation. You are using a device that was created on private property by a white man little shitskin hypocrite. If you dont like it why dont you go back to using smoke signals to communicate like those cultures used to.

[Anonymous No.21954153]

>>21952676
>Go tell your mommy you thick skinned rugged individualist, kek
Don't really need to read more then that to figure out it's a waste of time communicating with someone so childish and antagonistic.
How about you deal with what your issues are and grow up a little before trying to have grown up conversations.

[Anonymous No.21954163]

>>21952798
By all definitions of the word it isn't a commun. You're confusing commune for intentional community. All communes are intentionally communities but not all intentionally communities are communes.

[Anonymous No.21954171]

Radical individualism since the 80's has destroyed the west

[Anonymous No.21954179]

>>21954171
You wanna blame someone for individualism then the 80s is the wrong year, that shit started with the french revolution.

[Anonymous No.21954197]

>>21954179
nah, the type of individualism that fuelled neoliberalism became mainstream and tangible in the 80's. You can trace its ideological roots back in time, but it was in the 80's that it became a dominant ideology.

[Anonymous No.21954204]

>>21954101
>>21954114
You are talking out your ass.
There are plenty of examples of Asian, middle Eastern, and even African civilizations that had the concept of private property. It's just that those rights were subject to the truth objective law of might, which is part of the reason Rand was in favor of something akin to a night watchman state that defended it's citizens property rights against invaders or strongmen military dictators declaring themselves kings.

Even simple tribes that didn't have strong personal property rights had extreme strong tribal and clan property rights that they would war with other clans and tribes nearly constantly and extremely brutally over.

[Anonymous No.21954205]

>>21949579
Why do brainlets shill Rand so much instead of an at least somewhat respectable libertarian like Nozick?

[Anonymous No.21954449]

>>21954205
Because this board favors things that count as literature and Rand created relatively popular narrative books that got mainstream attention that also explained in detail her particular philosophy.
Nozick didn't and is more obscure as a result.

[Anonymous No.21954466]

>>21950026
“The government causes every ill of capitalism” is the right wing equivalent of “that wasnt real communism”

[Anonymous No.21954506]

>>21954466
>right wing
>right wing
>right wing
Libertarians are literally liberals, anon.

[Anonymous No.21954511]

>>21954466
none of you retards even know what capitalism even is
you think modern economies, with fiat currencies and central banks, where the government is the biggest employer, is capitalism?

we are already living in communism
>centrally planned, collectively owned, monopolistic, government backed zombie corporations
>who do not even have any products in the marketplace, but exist thanks to tax subsidies and government contracts
modern corporations are exact fucking same as soviet bureaus and 'peoples department of', whole 'tech' sector like apple and google are the same old soviet 'national department of propaganda' equivalent
they exist because of government regulations, not because mom and dad shops and small business got promoted by the market
there is no market, we live in a socialist economy dominated by government departments larping as pseudo corporations
just like in soviet times where average prole was broke and the only way to advance was to marry into politburo/central committee, you cant start a business in our economy without being backed by the government

[Anonymous No.21954517]

>>21954511
>we are already living in communism
I refuse to believe there are people who sincerely think this

[Anonymous No.21954541]

>>21954517
modern corporations are communism, there is a reason you cant respond with arguments instead of ad hominem to this
>centrally planned
>collectively owned (bitch you werent going to be the politburo central planner in communism either)
>monopolistic
>virtually the same as the government because of all the lobbying and interconnections
>incompetent because they do not compete in free market
>have zero connections to any kind of market at all
>exist thanks to tax subsidies and government contracts
>their only 'product' is shadow banning, censoring and political pandering, not physical marketplace products, they are fucking politicians

we live in the fucking communism with different symbols
'communist china' on the other hand has less regulations and better ease of doing business
imagine having 80 iq and being confused by the fucking symbols, its as if i called my horse ferrari, jesus christ look at the thing for what it is

[Anonymous No.21954568]

>>21954541
>we live in the fucking communism with different symbols
Based Marx was right as always.

[Anonymous No.21954606]

>>21954205
Rand not only couches her though in classical subject-predicate logic, but her philosophy is contingent on it. Its all very Greek/Scholastic. Atheistic Thomism. So it doesn't require a "conversation" with the entire body of western thought to be intelligible, it simply proceeds from its axioms in a simple "if X then Y" fashion that anyone can pick up.

She was the last Greek.

[Anonymous No.21954640]

>>21954171
The eighties were the last based decade though (including the capitalism). I don't know what you're talking about. Social programs (for example, the ones that lead to an increase in the cost of college and a decrease in the quality of students matriculating there) are the REAL devils here.

[Anonymous No.21954682]

>>21954114
>le noble savage

honestly how is this still a thing?

[Anonymous No.21954703]

>>21952558
'The only recourse of the Marxists consists of saying that the delays are simply longer than was imagined and that one day, far away in the future, the end will justify all'.

[Anonymous No.21954707]

>>21954101
>It's sad to see you seethe at people who want a better world.
Never trust people who want a “better” world.

[Anonymous No.21954708]

>>21954197
>hippies were neo-liberals
Really activates my almonds.

[Anonymous No.21954714]

>>21954568
>Based Marx was right as always.
'...without drawing the conclusions, as Marx does, that the German rebellion against Napoleon is explained only by the lack of sugar and coffee'.

[Anonymous No.21954784]

>>21954703
Historical process is unjustifiable - it unfolds regardless of cultural superstructure that it is a product of it's own events.

[Anonymous No.21956158]

>>21954101
Private property is the only thing keeping white people from being wiped out by giant feral hordes of not-white hominids.

[Anonymous No.21956180]

>>21956158
It's unfair to nonwhite people to lump them in with anti private property c*mmunists. Most of them are not that retarded

[Anonymous No.21956183]

>>21954707
this.
Amazing how the ones talking about a "better world" are also the last one to die for that cause.

[Anonymous No.21956203]

>>21956180
Most of them have socialist countries because they have been that retarded for 100 years and refuse to get onto the private-property-civilization train. They keep electing socialists and demanding more and more material stuff.

[Anonymous No.21956206]

>>21956183
Because they want to live in the better world someone else made for them. They're not interested in making it better for "others" they claim to be fighting for. They're the others. We fight for them.

[Anonymous No.21956228]

>>21956203
This is unironically in large part the fault of NATO though. Look I'm not saying their forms of governance are usually very good but they arent the ones who came up with communism and social democracy and similar memes. The only truly right wing(sort of) governments in existence today are the arab monarchies

[Anonymous No.21956235]

>>21949579
You are either putting the boots to others to live a better/easier life
>or others WILL put the boots to you
I'm 44 and if life has taught me anything, it is to be greedy and to be as selfish as possible. Don't think for a second that altruism will buy you any favours with people. All you need to do is pretend and that's good enough for 99.99% of people who will simply admire you for being rich, no matter how you got the money. Feed toddlers into a woodchipper to be a millionaire? Literally would not stop a single roastie from blowing you in your Mercedes.

[Anonymous No.21956238]

>>21956206
How is this any different then "fighting for billionares and bussiness"? hell at least they give me the services I ask for

[Anonymous No.21956251]

>>21954517
he has a point...No modern classic liberal is pro big bussiness, unless that big bussiness is alive thanks to actually innovating

[Anonymous No.21956264]

>>21956251
>big 'business' is actually the government, that's what makes this business big, its the government
>retards keep calling this government intervention "capitalism"
how do i reach these kids?

[Anonymous No.21956273]

last time we had capitalism was at cowboy frontiers and medieval free cities and merchant republics in europe
modern economy is dominated by the big business, and big business is big because of the government meddling

unskilled, unemployable zoomzooms who bash capitalism dont understand that its not the capitalism that is making them poor, its the mixture of government monopolies (aka big business, lobbying, tax subsidies, govt contracts) that have historically only created famines and gulags
and the second thing that makes the poors poor these days is that not even these poors would hire themselves to do any job because they are so unproductive and unskilled

[Anonymous No.21956288]

>>21956273
You forget to mention how a house should not be 1+ million dollars. It is all 100% fake and gay slavery by design. NOT capitalism.

[Anonymous No.21956297]

>>21956273
It's the combination of retarded regulation, idiotic lending, and currency debasement. An entire clusterfuck of fraud and dysfunction

[Anonymous No.21956307]

>>21956288
if we had capitalism, you could just buy the fucking land
whatever the fuck you do on said land is your business
if you want to build housing because there is astronomic demand, you could
but no... we dont have fucking capitalism
we have communistic, centrally planned, collectively owned by 1% (politburo was 1% too), monopolistic, incompetent (because it does not compete, its monopolistic, people still dont get it) big business corporations

we have to show to these kids that corporations are communism because big business corporations are just government monopolies (communism in action)

[Anonymous No.21956319]

>>21956307
Yes, it is all fake, gay, and supported by the boomers who profit from mass immigration and the class war. The young of today have it SO MUCH WORSE than I did, and I was only born in 1978. I had it SO good growing up. After 2008 things started getting fucked, after COVID Canada is like a different fucking planet.

[Anonymous No.21956467]

>not a communist
>hate the exploitative systems of power in the workplace and the corporate fatcats getting massive paychecks off the labour of the proletariat
>also contribute to this system because I need dosh
How am I supposed to reconcile these conflicting points

[Anonymous No.21956550]

>>21956467
Vote RFK Jr

[Anonymous No.21956551]

>>21949579
Interestingly enough, the thing that Rand always got the most flak for was her cartoonishly evil villains who just wanted to make life worse for everyone purely out of spite, and it ended up being one of the truest depiction of what American leftists are in the current decade.

[Anonymous No.21956587]

>>21956273
>>21956251
so what would actual classical liberalism actually look like in practice, then, if it is not pro big business?

[Anonymous No.21956592]

>>21956551
Yep, the ideas who are criticized the most vociferously are often the ones who end up being the most true.

[Anonymous No.21956594]

>>21956587
1830s America perhaps

[Anonymous No.21956768]

>>21954703
>longer than was imagined
it were said from the beginning
you are only confirm lack of any idea of subject

[Anonymous No.21957154]

>>21956768
How long?

[Anonymous No.21957187]

>>21956551
That's a very good observation and it's why people flock to her philosophy. They see the truth in how humans really are... they're just evil and cruel.

[Anonymous No.21957604]

>>21949579
it's meant to be read like the talmud. you're supposed to be either jewish, or killed if a gentile.

[Anonymous No.21957719]

>>21954071
Glad I read it recently so I can see when people give dumb arguments for and against the book. Kind of messed up that this shit has been going on for so long though. The book's end is actual dog water. However, I did enjoy the book overall

[Anonymous No.21957847]

>>21954101
Lol smoke some more crack you fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.21957865]

>>21951486
Close, but can tell you still didn't read it fully. You read spark notes. Also you're gay.

[Anonymous No.21957924]

>>21950026
Can you come the fuck down, though?

Because the problem isn't big government, we don't have a big government, what little we have is corrupt, rotten to it's core, yes, but it is the minimal, vestigal bureaucracy that is in front of, is the scapegoat for, a far bigger, far more amoral corporate bureaucracies of finance and industry.

[Anonymous No.21957994]

>>21954153
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.21957999]

>>21954112
All talk and no game. Land Chads will just read this, laugh, then raise your rent. By the way next you owe for May. Full $2000 rent is due no later than April 29th. Don't pay or get evicted. No refunds on the security deposit.

[Anonymous No.21958035]

>>21949579
I actually still like it despite shifting away from libertarianism myself

[Anonymous No.21958199]

>>21950231
Well said, especially when the money we get paid in loses value because of central banks printing more, causing inflation.

[Anonymous No.21958207]

>>21949579
I agree, the book disgusted me very early on. Surprise surprise the author is Jewish

[Anonymous No.21958209]

>>21956297
Agreed, currency debasement should be illegal.

[Anonymous No.21958455]

>>21949615
Yes unironcially. Never met a poor person who didn't deserve to be poor. Poor people are stupid, lazy, and impulsive

[Anonymous No.21959736]

>>21958455
I have met some, but it's true of >90% of them, and the rest were just decent people. Romanticizing poor people (outside monk vows) was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.21960162]

>>21949579
>your community
I rarely see another white face living here anymore
I wouldn't lift a finger for these animals, they're opportunistic parasites not a community
and oddly enough if I could go back in time to before this was the state of my home I'd be ready to participate solely by killing all those boomer traitors who sold the west away

[Anonymous No.21960204]

>>21960162
Why do so many people itt blame communism or marxism for the state of the west? Liberalism going insane and the invasion of the third world is purely a result of profiteering businesses. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can object to this. Globalism is an economic principle, not a social one. Do the words 'international elite' mean nothing to you? 'Capitalism' doesn't care about civic virtue or national coherence and readily expends these things for profit, with the development of modern technology this isn't just a possibility but an inevitability. Capital will always flow down the path of least resistance, it's completely antithetical to long term planning as all of the endless buyouts and bailouts should make obvious.

[Anonymous No.21960229]

>>21956288
>You forget to mention how a house should not be 1+ million dollars. It is all 100% fake and gay slavery by design. NOT capitalism.
If the house isn't worth a million dollars then why do people people that much for it? This is capitalism 101 dude. Stop seething just because you're a lazy poorfag.

[Anonymous No.21960237]

>>21960229
A house is worth a million dollars because it is part of the white genocide, they import a flood of chinks and pajeets while doing nothing about the poison drug supply. All that remains in society are the most cucked and beta faggot white people who take the COVID "vaccines" and bow their heads like faggots while the country turns to complete shit. Houses 20 years ago were 150k within 30 minutes of Vancouver and the place was great.

Now? Total shit country.

Kill yourself faggot.

[Anonymous No.21960241]

>>21960229
Cucked whites literally paid for this with their tax dollars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb55teb1gJ0

Kill yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.21960606]

>>21960162
Canada?

[Anonymous No.21960828]

>>21956587
Ever been to a flea market?
That's what unrestrained free market capitalism looks like in practice.
Boring yet functional.

[Anonymous No.21960836]

>>21957994
>Sling insults until the other guy gets fed up and leaves
>Declares victory days later

Petty and pathetic.