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/wwoym/ – Napoleonic edition
Old >>21927020

>> No.21930768
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I wonder what other body parts he asked the kiddy to suck

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>>21930760
I wish my parents never came to the US. I hate it here.

>> No.21930785

The war in the west rages on and on
Ten thousand men for a step, ten million dollars per ton.
A red sun rises and it shall not set
So long as the war goes on in the west.
Like ants they go marching!
Look at the lines over the dunes!
In the west, they say, is harbored the world-doom.
Doves sing in the valleys of our snowcapped peaks
Where fruit grows by the river and nuts fall by the creek
In the west, says an old man, back from the front
The war is fought against skeleton empires of dust
He told us evil stories of men made of stone,
Of the forced abdication of all worldly thrones
He whispered of a moon that hangs shattered in the sky
When we children looked up, the sight eluded mine eye
The war in the west rages nearer by the day.
Soon, our green valley will burn all the same
Or so says a young man, with fire in his eyes -
Who whispers of killing immortals with steel in their spines
And told us of the sound of a giants death-cry
or the faded bone-white against the gore of dead lives
but when we listened for the footsteps of the giants, all we heard was our river.
And yet the war in the west is paid in full;
My own father deserted, long ago, in a lull
He sits at the table with crystal-clear eyes
He tells of the war and what it comprised
"In a land where the sun does not rise nor set -
there can be no war, no pain, no bloodlet
And yet, my son, i saw the sages
Of ancient days rise again
I saw the dragon-mother of the stars consume the waters of men
I felt the cold of deep-dwellers who crawled out from bitter seas
I smelled the ammonia-burn of dying xenoenemies
I tasted my own blood as a lance pierced my side-"
And then did my father lift his shirt, to our surprise,
For there was no lance-scar on his leathered flesh yet
And he smiled when he said,
"It isnt real, my son,
Until that red sun sets."
The war in the west rages on and on
Ten thousand men for a step, materiel by the ton
Never again will I question the war in the west
For I too have seen the bone-yards, and phoenix ashy nest
Where the moon hangs crying
And a red sun never rises
And the red sun never sets

Apologies to double post, missed the new thread while writing

>> No.21930798

>>21930785
Have you seen the recent All Quiet on The Western Front?

>> No.21930799
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Would thy be a way to achieve though state of drunken ecstasy? This Dionysian surge of emotion can only be unlocked through the music of Jimmi Hendrix or Jim Morrison.

>> No.21930808

>>21930773
Where is this? Also same in a weird way, its better than most places in the world and the fact I can just buy land and disappear makes it the best country to live in, but culturally its pretty bad.

>> No.21930812

>>21930799
Ok boomer

>> No.21930813

>>21930798
Never, ive heard the name. War in the west was inspired by a random one-off line in a book i read recently...

>> No.21930816

>>21930798
The Movie? They made a movie of it? How shit was it?

>> No.21930821

>>21930813
Based. Less read more write. [unironically]
>>21930816
Kino.

>> No.21930822

>>21930821
>Kino.
Nice, I'll look into it.

>> No.21930832

>>21930821
Indeed movies kill creativity, tiktok is the lethal injection of creativity, read sometimes to slake your thirst and write MOAR
i write a poem a day and I plan to harvest the good crop then publish them one day! Years away...

>> No.21930835

>>21930832
May your aspirations come to fruition. Don't forget to post it on this board.

>> No.21930839

>>21930799
Hell yeah.

>> No.21930853

>Dont have any ideas
>Cannot describe the ideas in a creative way
Writer career is off the table

>> No.21930857
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In recent years I've been buying academic works (both new and used) and the rate of my purchases of said kind of books has abruptly grown in the last few months to the point where I'm just dropping $50 CAD at a time per book from Harvard or Cambridge or whatever. This is meanwhile I'm a NEET and have almost entirely been so since I graduated from high school over a decade ago. All that extra money the gov't has given me because of inflation hasn't been commensurate with my personal, real-world expenses so it's of course gone to books. I've been buying a lot of bullshit on comparative study of esotericism and mythology as well as secret societies and conspiracy theories, for those wondering what I've been spending my money on in particular. I feel very blessed too and haven't forgotten that I'm more privileged than most and give thanks to the Lord for my modern-day aristocratic status.

>> No.21930870

>>21930835
Ill be the new F Gardner

>> No.21930875

>>21930857
Whats your rarest book?

>> No.21930879

I think I have a porn addiction, I find it really hard to not coom to porn and its killing me inside.

>> No.21930882

>>21930879
Get a voyeur to come over and stare at you

>> No.21930884

>>21930882
I appreciate the attempt at humor, even at my expense, but I'm being serious sadly.

>> No.21930886

>>21930884
So am I. You'll probably get creeped out and the memory will affect how safe you feel recreating any of it again. Give yourself some trauma to plaster the trauma you already got.

>> No.21930890

>>21930886
uhhhh.... I think there are better ways but thanks for the input?

>> No.21930891

>>21930890
No problem man, anytime

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>>21930875
Hmm, not sure. Maybe my copy of The Bell Jar, or The Magical World of Aleister Crowley by Francis X. King (which is currently going for over $200 CAD on Amazon). Not sure to be honest!
>picrel I just bought because today is neetbux day

>> No.21930910

>>21930908
Whats your endgame? Sole rebuilder of Library of Alexandria?

>> No.21930913

>>21930910
you can rebuild the Library all you want, the amount of books lost can never be replaced. That being said, there was a reason why all the Greek successor kingdoms failed.

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>>21930910
My endgame? Acquire many cool books.

>> No.21931061

I keep eating in order to fill the hole but I still feel hungry.

>> No.21931063

My new office slave job gives me plenty of free time to read articles during the day.
I am using that time to read the American Pravda right now. Wage slavery is making me anti semitic

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This is on my mind. He’s right tho

>> No.21931092

>>21931063
Just do the Bachelor Economics early retirement plan.
Prerequisites:
>Given up on Women, Society, and wants to be left alone to enjoy life.

Plan:
>Understand that almost all your money will go into savings and you are going poverty mode to get to where you want to be ASAP.
>Figure out where you want to live, find cheap land near there (or move to a part of the country that has a low cost of living).
>start building a cabin on it yourself, save up for an RV to put it on, or save up to contract builders to build you a house (if your building a house adding a second story is always cheaper than building outwards, so even if you don't want a second floor build a big and square enough first floor to build on top of later.)
>Once you have your home/rv/cabin done, start thinking about how much money you would need to live comfortably on. Start taking your money and putting it into stock markets or other options to start making a passive income or build wealth down the line.
>Figure out how much money you are willing to pay a year on living expenses, be strict and be 100% sure this is what you want to do.
>Quit your job early when you earn the amount that you think you need, move out to your land permanently.
>Optional: Get a part-time job or side job you can do to earn extra cash if you want/need too. If you can strike a balance that you want you can have your cake and eat it too buy living off your part-time wages, making your savings go farther.
>Enjoy doing w/e it is you ultimately want to be doing.
It isn't for anyone but it is an escape plan if your desperate to get out. I want to get out there to do some farming, landscaping, reading, writing, and spiritual goals. I'll probably gonna get an RV and just forego the internet all together too.

>> No.21931103

>>21931072
And where does all this fiction comes from- what is it, the author wanted to Express, what was so enduring that the story wanted to be told?
And by the words of proust, the reading of a Story is a reading of ones self, you can feel and observe your reaction to it, and you will have a gate to the sphere of ideas that lies within the book.
Forcing yourself into the hegelian choice will limit your experience.

>> No.21931106

Depressed about the past. Pessimistic about the future. Too old to feel like anything can really get better. Hopeless.

>> No.21931108

>>21931092
The average man makes something like $50k per year. He has no savings at all.

>> No.21931112

i'm out of myself i'm out of this world i want to wander everywher and be frogoten as soon as i die

>> No.21931115

>>21931108
Ive got some savings and am looking at a house I posted in one of these threads before.
It’s not a bad idea and there’s plenty of land to do some agricultural stuff. Plus I could weld shit to make some cash but I’m not sure if I have the money to stop wage slaving completely.
But it’s a nice dream to have

>> No.21931116

>>21930857
>comparative study of esotericism and mythology
interested in this, what are your suggestions?

>> No.21931125

>>21931108
I've made around 25k to 30k a year and managed to stash away 21k over the course of 3 years...

>> No.21931130

>>21931106
That makes two of us anon.

>> No.21931151

>>21930760
How many liters of sweat am I going to make before I shoot that dog

>> No.21931201

I really like The Bell Jar, not even memeing, and I'm not afraid to say it. I'm happy it's being shilled.

>> No.21931251

Imagine a book where main character would travel to Cold war era and completly fuck up the timeline of worlds history, would be cool I think

>> No.21931261

>>21931251
Thats somewhat plot of Kings 11.22.63 book.

>> No.21931391

Im 32...got no skills...im always tired as hell and theres no escape. At least i got neetbux but who knows for how long.

>> No.21931402

>>21931391
me but without neetbux

>> No.21931410

Art is a social phenomenon before it is an artistic one. Almost all sorts of art has a social function in the particular milieu it is created in, but not all art has an aesthetic function. Since "art" itself is an idea dependent on various conceptions of art vying for hegemony over the others it should be noted that calling something art and other things bad art or non-art can not tell us anything besides the waxing and waning of the popularity of these various ideas about art in the particular milieu that is being examined.

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I've been up all night shitposting about The Bell Jar and Aleister Crowley lmao. C'est la vie motherfuckers.

>> No.21931434

>>21931391
me but without neetbux and I never sleep, I recommend getting outside and going for a run or walk, start eating healthy, and unless your like me an prescribed medical meth for something, try to get at least 8 hours a night.

>> No.21931492

I want to take a year off to write, but I don’t know where to go to do it. I have to get out of mom’s house, but my entire 20s has been a series of back and forth between 3 places. I went to college in place A, moved to place B, moved back to A, then moved back to B.

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>>21930760
Doing a good work feels good. It's a shame procastination can come earlier.

>> No.21931525

>>21931520
What do you consider good work? Is it work for someone else or yourself?

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>>21931525
I work in the family's business so it means both.
I consider good work the feeling I get after doing a determined type of work (Tranquility). Or perhaps lacking the feeling one gets when something remains undone or "half-assed"

>> No.21931582

>>21931556
You’re lucky. I hated every job I ever had. I procrastinated because I don’t want to work for myself. I discovered what I really wanted to do very late in life, but I haven’t managed to put in a lot of work for that. I’m 30 now and I feel a lot like my failures in higher education and in my subsequent career have set me back too far to really recover. None of the people from history that I admire were this far behind at this age or made as many mistakes as I did. It makes me really depressed to think about.

>> No.21931592

Reading 4chan posts all day has given me brain damage. I've become less and less capable at reading actual books. I can barely focus on a passage without losing my mind.

>> No.21931597 [DELETED] 

>>21931582
Somehow I feel like I’ve ended up worse off than I had if I had just been a NEET. If I had been a NEET, I would go all in on pursuing my artistic passions and feel absolutely no remorse about the fact that I never worked. But I didn’t NEET. I went to college and had jobs and moved to different places on my own, but all of it was so mediocre in the end that it’s somehow even worse.

>> No.21931606

I almost masturbated last night, but wasn‘t into it enough to finish. Today women are being nicer to me but I‘m having a hard time focusing on reading. What did Satan mean by this?

>> No.21931638

Im 90% sure that I pissed my bed this night.

>> No.21931795

>>21930773
Sometimes I have the same thought but desu I also cant imagine I'd rather live back in europe

>> No.21931796

>>21931061
Try a butt plug

>> No.21931800

>>21931492
Try moving to place C

>> No.21931804

>>21931796
Im not a powerlifter

>> No.21931805

>>21931800
The only place C in mind is simply too expensive.

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When you’re bored at work

>> No.21931842

>>21931819
obsessed

>> No.21931846

I’m looking for books about moving on from regret.

>> No.21931861

>>21931819
Had so much free time today during work I managed to watch Hypernormalisation and still 'be productive'.

>> No.21931864

>>21931819
based

>> No.21931870

>>21931842
When I’m reading an article I like to Google the claims.
If you have some other interesting thing for me to read I’ll read that too.
But American Pravda was something I wanted to check out for a while >>21931861
I’m not comfortable enough to watch entire documentaries at work yet

>> No.21931883

>>21931846
What do you regret so much?

>> No.21931916

>>21930760
I just had a great dream.

>> No.21931983

>>21931434
I fixed the sleep but im still tired

>> No.21932012

>>21931883
There’s a lot. I don’t think you want me to spell out everything, do you? I think in general, I think I just failed to do what I should’ve done and what’s worse, I’m feeling pretty hopeless about the future because of it. It’s one thing to have regret, but it’s the feeling hopeless part that is intolerable.

>> No.21932024

Can the aesthetic appreciation of female nudity ever be separated from the sexuality of the nude female form? What do women see when they look at a naked woman in/on a work of art?

>> No.21932033 [DELETED] 

I almost regret that I didn’t NEET. Nearly a decade of trying and failing to put together anything resembling an admirable career and I now realize I would’ve been better being a leach and a bum spending my all of my time hiking and shooting like my friends did.

>> No.21932041

>>21931391
Depending on what you want out of life, you don’t really need skills. People talk about skills like they’re some magical pill, but they’re not.
I’m almost jealous of NEETs to be honest. I think that’s a far more interesting life than trying and failing for more than a decade to put together an impressive education and job history.

>> No.21932043

>>21932033
>>21932041
I'm a long term NEET but it's terrible. Half a decade worth of a job gap, no skills, no connections. Now I cant even land a simple job which requires uni diploma and logical ability. Grass is greener on the other side.

>> No.21932048

The state of the art of many branches of scientific psychology, the most relevant to my story being social psychology, are working with the notion that there are two extremes to mental processes: automaticity and control.
The reason for that is that around 2000 many theories were formulated as a culmination of the scientific work of many years prior, which started from Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman's research program on heuristics and biases in the late 1970s and many examples of which are readily found looking up "automaticity and control" on google scholar.

Automatic processes are characterized by four qualities, which here should be taken without the usually associated positive connotation of the word:
they are efficient, which is important because we have a limited amount of cognitive resources and it's paramount that we be able to allocate them towards what's useful and not towards what is not;
they are unaware, meaning that you can't know that process is occurring, in much the same way as you're not aware of the universe continuously expanding;
unintentional, meaning you can't choose when to start one, and
uncontrollable, meaning you can't actively stop one such process between when it starts and when it naturally reaches the end of its course.
Controlled processes are the opposite.
There are many interesting ways in which to apply this knowledge to the real world, all made maybe less spicy but much sweeter by the fact that we weren't involved in the multi-disciplinary reverse engineering process that this description stemmed from.
One such thing is forgetting to pick up something you don't usually carry with you when you get out of the house in a hurry; when you're in a hurry and you're stressed out you don't have as much cognitive resources at your disposal as you do when you're relaxed (and you know you'll arrive early even if there's some serious traffic along the way), so the controlled process that is you thinking of whatever you need to have wherever you need to go can't happen, and the automatic process of you getting out of the house like you do every morning happens.
That's good, because it means you can function under stress, and you do function under stress, but it's also bad, because it means that the guest of honor will receive that $55 bottle of wine the day after her birthday.
It's paramount to know, if you're looking to apply this concept to real life, that there are conditions under which automatic processes activate, and conditions under which controlled processes generally have the upper hand.
One of them we mentioned already: cognitive load; the more attention you're paying to something, the less you'll be able to start a controlled process.
The other good one is motivation.
If you're not motivated to do something your brain will keep running in power saving mode, and automatic processes will run everything backstage.

This is how, today, a german made an effort to scam me out of $220, and I let him.

>> No.21932062

Just went to the bookstore in my dream.
The haul:
- Against the Day (they didn't have it)
- Barnes and Noble 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea (they only had a bootleg copy with mismatched pages printed on printer paper)
- 15 gallon drum of nautical stories printed on rolled up scrolls
Don't think i was able to check anything out.

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Evil is winning everywhere in the world.

I will take as many nigger trannies to hell before I die.

>> No.21932089

>>21932082
Its like you’re begging for a visit from the fbi

>> No.21932150 [DELETED] 

I found in my dream the literal pillars of the world in a vastness of clouds and light.

>> No.21932162

I French kissed myself.

>> No.21932176

do you know da wae?

>> No.21932183

>>21932089
(in minecraft)

>> No.21932192

>>21932048
Don't feel too bad, shit happens.

>> No.21932233

I wish my boyfriend's ex girlfriend would get 3rd degree burns all over her body.

>> No.21932236

If passtheeories w'ere wrong, my dear sirs, and theeories bef'ore w'ere ev'n more wrong, then we must ponder upon the fact that theeories now be v'ry wrong, my esteemed companions. Today's theeories be as flimsy as the Flat Earth theory of yesteryear, and in a thousand yearths, they shall be ridiculed by future generations. But peradventure, they shall once again return to the Flat Earth theory. Heisenberg proclaimed that the universe be far stranger than our human minds can comprehend, and could we not observe that the passtheeories w'ere correct? But why, my fellow travelers, do we bother with the pursuit of knowledge if all theeories wilt inevitably be proven false with the passage of time?

>> No.21932237

>>21932233
She lives rent free in your head

>> No.21932245

nothing is done yet nothing is left undone
all things move to the will of the way
the rigid snap and the flexible bend
and all is accomplished without effort

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>> No.21932269

>>21932233
I can ~ see ~ why you're his ex!

>> No.21932271

>>21932043
I know it is. I just think there’s a lot of potential for a redemption story there. 32 isn’t too old to turn your life into something worthwhile. If it were me, I’d decide between trying for the career, family, house, etc. or I’d try to transmute all of that pain into something artistic. The latter sounds romantic to me.

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I can't stand women anymore. I'm not good enough and I never will be, despite being one of the greatest people to ever live

>> No.21932280

then you are blind if you cannot see their passion still burns for the one who is no longer with them
you are blind to the fact that they were together before
and you are folly to assume you know what future holds
all that is shown is an expression of pain and jealousy that another one is in the arms of the one who they feel strongly towards
and a blind man claiming sight

>> No.21932336

>>21930760
Dear Diary,

April 19th, 2023

I stumbled upon a thread on /tv/ a few days back about an anime adaptation of a manga that a friend had mentioned before. It was about an idol with reincarnated children, but I quickly lost interest and dropped it. I usually browse the Daily Mail for news articles, and I like how you can just scroll without having to click on each article.

Today, I read a headline about a famous K-pop star who tragically took his own life at the age of 25. It made me think about the whole celebrity craze in Asia, and honestly, I find it embarrassing for both the fans and the so-called celebrities. If you're an idol in Japan, you have to constantly maintain a facade, the "kayfabe," where you can't date or do anything "scandalous." You have to act all moe and pure, so that loser perverts who have no clue who you are as a person can fantasize about you.

But the truth is, you're not a songwriter, you're just a performer and dancer, and you're easily replaceable. There's nothing to be proud of in that. I don't understand the appeal from the fans' point of view either, waving their little light rods and tugging their weiners for someone who is obviously not sincere and probably harbors hidden contempt for them.

As I reflect on all of this, I can't help but feel disillusioned with the whole celebrity culture in Asia. It's disheartening to see how superficial and artificial it can be, and it makes me question why people are so obsessed with it. I long for authenticity and sincerity in the entertainment industry, where artists can be true to themselves without having to put on a fake persona for the sake of popularity. It's a sobering realization, and it makes me appreciate genuine connections and real emotions even more.

>> No.21932340

>>21932269
What? I'm his girlfriend.
>>21932237
She does. I hate her so much.

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>>21932340
Can I date your boyfriend's ex? That way I can help her destroy you so she can start dating him, only at the last minute to be betrayed by me and I'll get him, HE'LL BE ALL MINE!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.21932374

My dad sucked my penis when I was a baby.

>> No.21932375

>>21932367
You can date her if you want she's a whore. But she doesn't know I exist and she has like 50 other ex boyfriend's so you would have to find the one I'm dating.

>> No.21932381

>>21932375
I can just ask her... And desu, if you had sex then I would consider you a whore because I'm still a virgin and a based good boy.

>> No.21932396

My family sexually abused me.

>> No.21932400

>>21932396
move away from them and start a better life without them

>> No.21932401

>>21932024
Yes. It isn't often completely divorced, and most people have some ambiguities around sexuality anyway. Even for men attracted to women, there are naked pictures where they can admire the form and still not want to fuck it. However, there's also a social issue in some societies where men don't think fondness or beauty exists without sexuality, so you get people worried they're gay because the see male beauty even if they never want to suck or fuck anything male, or people convinced they must be into some kinky sex stuff because the idea they find something beautiful without wanting to have sex with it is a foreign notion. This also happens a lot in propaganda, such as films to persuade troops all hot women are diseased to cut down on antibiotic bills, or films to persuade a nation they wouldn't get turned on if a woman from the next nation over offered to suck their dick and drown them in her titties because that nation's women are somehow too genetically inferior to suck your cock.

>> No.21932405

>>21932400
They haven't abused me after becoming an adult.

>> No.21932410

>>21932396
I'm sorry to hear that, I know is rough but you can transcend your pain if you really work at it!

>> No.21932416

I don't know how to spoiler

>> No.21932417

>>21932396
what made it abuse?

>> No.21932421

>>21932396
Your whole family? You in a cult?

>> No.21932422

>>21932416
yeah I do I lied

>> No.21932424

>>21932416
lol, newfag. watch this


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>> No.21932431

>>21932271
>32 isn’t too old to turn your life into something worthwhile.
Only if you're going independent and creative. Wagies despise you for not being one of them for so long.

>> No.21932433

>>21932417
I said here >>21932374
My mom told me about it. Also bad touch and looking at me while naked that I realize now wasn't normal.

>> No.21932437

>>21932424
I'm actually an oldfag I just left for a long time and forgot everything cause i'm old.

>> No.21932439

>>21932431
Then do that. I could see a NEET being an incredible gallery painter or sculptor. For everyone else, 30s is probably too old to pick up an art for the first time and achieve anything great with it, but the first NEET to project his lifelong insecurity on a canvas or in marble can be remembered. You want to be the first, not the best.

>> No.21932445

>>21932439
>the first NEET to project his lifelong insecurity on a canvas or in marble can be remembered. You want to be the first, not the best.
m8 it's a bit late for that

>> No.21932447

>>21932043
32 year old, jobless but not a neet anon here. Go to your local employment office or call them. You 100% qualify for them to help you find a job. Just grab w/e you can and work it for 6 months to a year and save up money then jump to another job if you hate it. Your gonna be working at the bottom and it will suck and be frustrating but you'll work your way up.

>> No.21932448

>>21932437
same. i'm actually omnicient, i just got born into this imperfect world and forgot everything so i have to rediscover all of the knowledge i possess.

>> No.21932449

>>21932401
I feel like male nudity is mentally conceived of a lot differently than female nudity is thought of. Nude men are either comical (think of anime), tragical (like the dying gaul), or awe-inspiring (think of David, the Farnese Hercules, or the naked statues ancient rulers made of themselves), but practically never aesthetically pleasing in themselves like naked women are thought to be.

>> No.21932458
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>>21932448
Wow, thats hot lets kiss!

>> No.21932473

>>21932449
You do know they're all posed for effect right? Just like there's pictures of sexualised females for girls to look at to learn how to be sexy. Nude photos before we developed a language for photography are a whole trip. Photography can make a lot of things which seem like they're not porn but epic moral tales or myths (Bouguereau fans you should feel called out) in photography will read as graphic pornography which is banned in most countries. There's a set of poses, lighting, medium, and other choices which not just defines something as pornographic nudity or a jolly Sunday romp for all the family which has been constructed over the history of humanity and is in constant flux. Plenty of things which would get blurred in Japan don't get blurred or even thought of as sexy (unless you're a freak) in the west, just like there's plenty of things which make you a whore in Japan which in the west make you just not a fundamentalist nutjob Christian.

>> No.21932497

>>21932449
Well if your a man you have this magical thing called a penis that makes women look 100 times better than they actually look. I think most men are desensitized to it, but men can see women so pretty that it "hurts physically" to look at them. Women do not really experience the same thing, they may think they do, they may say that they do, but they don't. I think this is partly why Men can be so naive and trusting and why Women can be so cruel and fucked up. We see beauty almost every day, even if we don't consciously recognize it. Women don't see this beauty every day and I think it has a covert but profound effect on how they see the world, and why they can/are so manipulative, because they see most men as mundane/average at best.

>> No.21932528

>>21931805
Then try place D

>> No.21932540

>>21932449
This is the exact opposite of what the greeks thought and what all my weightlifter friends think

>> No.21932549

>>21932497
Thats you projecting your low self esteem and internalized misandry. YOU dont see the male form as sexy because you are not gay.

>> No.21932560

>>21932233
You are larping andare not even female

>> No.21932569

The pandemic was so stunting to my personal development. I feel so agitated and frustrated by it. A whole generation got fucked by media hysterics

>> No.21932570

>>21932192
yeah, thanks

>> No.21932574

>>21932560
I don't care if you think that I'm larping. I'm going to keep posting whenever I feel hate for my boyfriend's ex girlfriend.

>> No.21932596

>>21932574
That's ugly.

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>>21932549
I don't have low self-esteem and I'm a man, yah fag! If you had read it all the way through before jumping to pre-judge you would've known!

>> No.21932740

>>21932596
You're ugly.

>> No.21932747

>>21932445
That is, the first to do a thing in a particular way, not the first to do the thing.

>> No.21932752

I was going to type out my life’s story with the hope they I could get some advice, but I realize now that it would be pointless.

>> No.21932754

>>21932740
That's an ugly response.

>> No.21932757

>>21932754
Would you love me if I was ugly?

>> No.21932758
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21932758

About nine years ago, my dick stopped working. By which I mean, it did not ejaculate.

It was an unnerving and frightening thing. I would get aroused but nothing would come of it, and nothing would come out. I would get hard, and even feel arousal, but my dick shot absolutely nothing out, even as it climaxed. It was one of the scariest periods of my life. I of course worried I had some terrible illness.

My solution to this problem was to masturbate, masturbate, masturbate some more, multiple times a day. And lo and behold, it worked. I started shooting semen again. Whatever was wrong with me, I managed to cure it.

Of course this swung me hard in the other direction, and now I have a crippling physical dependency on jerking off that I've still not managed to shake, even as I have tried to quit porn and leave my degeneracy behind. It's very disheartening because I feel like I was trapped between a rock and a hard place, and couldn't win no matter what I did.

>> No.21932771

I wonder if that guy who works in university administration is here.

>> No.21932777

>>21932754
You're an ugly response.

>> No.21932783

I’m in such a deep pit of despair. I don’t know how to climb out.

>> No.21932839

>>21932758
True story or just shitpost, anon? I can cum perfectly with porn but everytime im with a person I cannot cum, no matter how much time passses, its pretty embarrassing.

>> No.21932844

>>21932783
What happened, fellow?

>> No.21932846

>>21932844
I’m just tired man. Another birthday and I’m depressed. Things haven’t gone for me the way I wanted them to. It’s half my fault but half just bad luck, and I’m starting to get to the point where I’ve lost hope.

>> No.21932848

Will is such a loose notion it just becomes dizzying and gets more and more muddled the more you think about it. I've met people who thought they were courageous, master of their own mind, pussy blasters, street fighters or whatever, but saw that those same people couldn't get up in the morning and go to work. Some guy would go play warrior in the streets only to return home and play fortnite till it's 3AM. On the contrary I've met people who couldn't hurt a fly but were determined to reach their goals, and waged wars against themselves for years only to have the right to exercise a certain job, and succeeded.

What is the real definition of will when taking these things in account? Are people limited by their will, or is the will of people limited by themselves? What makes a strong resolve? What makes a strong man? What is the average Joe supposed to grow as if everyone's definition of "will" is different? Is everyone supposed to do all of these things at the same time; grow muscles, fight people, cultivate a strong connection with God and be a successful businessman or are those things simply constructs of our society? I've already learned that women are not to be listened to, but even men seem to be manipulated by these ideals; nowhere is safe.

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>>21931116
Still reading my way thru the basic shit so I'm just gonna suggest you read picrel.

>> No.21932862

>>21932848
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_preference

Just a matter of where the will is directed imo

>> No.21933005

I’m considering becoming a monk. From what I understand about monasteries, they offer refuge and service to a highest calling. That is so appealing to me.

>> No.21933023

I think I need to do something really radical with my life if I’m going to save it.

>> No.21933107

>>21932846
Plan what you want and reflect on what you realllllly can attain. And stay safe

>> No.21933115

>>21933005
Yeah, i wanted to neet to a monastery to study history but then I remembered Im an unironic, unrepentant gay and theyd expel me after my first attempt to footjob a senior member.

>> No.21933120

Lately I have had to take oatmeal baths daily to stop the pain in my skin. One cup of oats ground up in the bath each time. Having some kind of allergic sensitization issue that makes my skin itch really bad.

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>>21930760
Is anyone else watching the World Chess Championship? It's been extremely kino so far, way more wins than usual. Normally I like the way Nepo plays better than Ding but they are both doing some crazy stuff

I find it amusing how like 90% of top level chess players are plainly autists. These events are always like an autist wrangling exercise

>> No.21933130

>>21933124
I got to 2000+ elo over a year ago and since then I can't stand chess.

>> No.21933139

>>21930773
Why do you hate it?

>> No.21933142
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21933142

>>21933124
What the fuck happened to him

>> No.21933143

>>21933130
I dont play chess at all. I like watching the analysis videos because it condenses the hours of tedious thinking into short bits of genius. The combination of simplicity and complexity in the game is just hypnotizing

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21933153

Well bros it's me intellektuelleanschauung bro. I left for a while to try to make a name for myself on twitter. But it was a mistake. You faggots and retards are who I belong with. I'll be shilling german idealism again. Soon.

>> No.21933159

just fucking talk to me I can’t get calm what do I have to do to reach uou

>> No.21933164

The last sentence.

>> No.21933166

>>21933143
It's hypnotising to your virginal newbie eyes. Play for a few thousand hours and you can easily see 10 ply ahead. Actually don't, there are better uses of one's time.

>> No.21933169

>>21933164
What do you mean?

>> No.21933180

>>21933166
I straight up lack the patience to calculate lines. Sometimes I will do the little puzzles but the idea of doing that literally every move for hours makes me feel ill

>> No.21933182

>>21933169
Like the end of history, like the last man, that was the last sentence. All sentences have been exhausted.

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Couldn't find a [vague enough] Christian general on /x/ or /lit/, so I'll ask here:

God created man, right? He gave us free will, right? He's all-knowing, and thus foreknowing, right?
This means (from what I understand) that God set the universe up such that humans are able to sin and defy Him, and if God is all-knowing, he knows if and when we'll sin, even if he doesn't want us to. In a weird way, he made some of us to sin, and he makes some of us sin.
So why punish us? If you program a robot to press a button (or be able to make the choice to press the button or not), and you know the robot will press the button, why punish the robot for pressing the button?

One explanation I've heard from JWs is that, to make free will fair, God can sort of "turn off" his foreknowledge, so there are instances in which he indeed doesn't know what someone's going to do. I suggested this theory to a friend of mine, and he denounced it, saying "I don't see why God's knowledge of what we will do threatens our free will."

Are there any passages or theological/apologetic works that try to answer this?

>> No.21933214

Did Tom Stoppard steal this from King Crimson?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/141729-i-got-dizzy-he-explained-i-should-think-you-did
https://youtu.be/vXrpFxHfppI?t=97

>> No.21933226

>>21933115
Well, you don’t really NEET in a monastery anyway. They put you to work. Have you tried praying about your perversions?

>> No.21933243

>>21933203
Free will is not really a coherent concept

>> No.21933245

>>21933203
Yes and not only that, but Christians dispute many of the points you mention as well, like free will. There are many Christians who utterly deny free will, most notably Calvinists, who take it to such an extreme that basically nobody understands how anyone could believe in that shit, not even a lot of Calvinists.

There are lines of thought and ways of talking about these issues but no obviously correct schools or ready made answers. Many Christians will explain it basically along platonist grounds, more or less close to how Augustine did it, by saying that punishment is actually just our finite and limited perspective of our own soul's movement away from God, and that there is no literal personal relationship between God and ourselves wherein he goes "you masturbated, I'm going to damn you now." It's more that because God is somehow pure goodness itself,* his commandments and will are goodness itself, and so if we choose to defy them we are really just moving voluntarily toward evil, and evil somehow entails our suffering either now or later, because it leads to the soul being lost and (in platonist terms) becoming more formless/dissolute.

* This is itself a very difficult concept. See the famous Euthyphro paradox or dilemma.

Some handle it by making God so utterly transcendent and faith so utterly necessary that it's literally just beyond our comprehension why He does what He does and it's not for us to question. This is unsurprisingly not very popular with philosophers. Usually there's a mixture of emphasis depending on the thinker.

The free will issue is very ancient but actually one of the interesting things about theism and belief in a personal God is that they are comfortable with just asserting the miraculous, which makes it easy enough to do the same for free will as well. It's one of God's greatest miracles. But other Christians, including very pious and even dourly anti-philosophical ones, reject free will on rationalist grounds, so like I said, it's not clear cut.

Platonism also has room for the miraculous, which you can see in the Seventh Letter for example, where Plato just says shhh don't talk about it using words/concepts, just have the direct experience and it'll all make sense. But platonism has both this mystical side and a rationalistic side, and it often collapses into the latter in the hands of lazy and autistic thinkers. So Christian miracle believers and platonist miraculous believers often have very fruitful dialogue. The utterly "other" nature of God is a good reminder to maintain Plato's insistence on the utterly "other" nature of the One / Good / True / Beautiful.

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>>21933142
He was buck broken by Hans "the machine" Niemann

>> No.21933261

>>21933120
Is it cold urticaria?

>> No.21933271

>>21933203
What he knows is the actions that we'll cause ourselves. Just because he already knows our actions doesn't mean they're no longer being caused by ourselves. No free will means you don't cause your actions, but you do cause the actions, and his foreknowledge doesn't change that we cause our own actions.

>> No.21933297

Why am I constantly fearing my own death? Every time I drive I imagine getting in a fatal accident. Every time I cross a street I imagine a car hitting me. Every time I go to the beach I don't want to go in the water because it will carry me out too far and I'll drown. And I know these fears are fucking stupid and giving them too much power will stop me from enjoying life, but I just can't rewire my brain to forget them.

When I think about why death would be bad I feel like I want to experience getting married and having a family, and I don't want to be cheated out of that at this point in my life. But everyone feels that way and there's got to be something deeper to it.

>> No.21933378

I have a ton of stuff to do, everything is late and here I am

>> No.21933453
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Slow day

>> No.21933466

>>21933453
>back below 4000
Based

>> No.21933470

>>21933203
It doesn't follow that because God allows you to sin and because he knows when and how you'll sin, that he made you sin. Your actions are your own. This is what it means to have free will. This is actually a very simple point that people seemingly do not want to accept.

>> No.21933482

I'm going to continue to write stories, but I think I'm going to have abandon my aspirations to do anything with them. Becoming a novelist is probably not in the cards for me.

>> No.21933504

>>21930760
trying to figure out an answer to this question

what is the term for someone who is capitalist otherwise but against large wealth accumulation and support trade barriers? in this sense they believe that people who move over a 1 billion dollar acquisition (roughly) must then have their excess money funneled into public works.but barring that, they believe in free trade?

>> No.21933515

>>21933504
Paternalist. It was the ideology of Benjamin Disraeli.

>> No.21933529

>>21933515
alright

>> No.21933562

>>21933482
Never give up without a fight
Write your whole life and in 10 years if you week even a page a week youll have your novel
Not everyone is a sanderson-tier autist or a stepehen king schizocoke prophet, just work normally and take it day by day, author is only a career once youve published something popular

>> No.21933608

Anyone have the webm of the woman putting coke and mentos into her ass hole? Asking for a friend

>> No.21933613

>>21932740
You admitted you were ugly as recently as last week

>> No.21933615

>>21932675
I read your post over 3 (three) times before responding.

>> No.21933618

>>21933453
>the steep decline correlating with when i got a job
Lol. I'm prety sure I single handedly ruined the board

>> No.21933624

where are you why are you doing this I need to talk to you!!!’b. M

>> No.21933642

Why are strangers scared when I tell them I love them?

>> No.21933663

>>21930760
Just found out about The Care Manifesto after my uni email got bombarded with notifications about events on campus where it will be discussed.
I started reading through it and I just hate the antichrist. I hate the antichrist. Career academics are not human beings and it should not be legal for them to publish anything.

>> No.21933692

>>21933663
lmao

i can't even imagine how dystopian the world is going to be if these people manage to shift things back toward ultraglobohomo and get another full century of unquestioned dominance, it will be like techno-stalinism with free tampon dispensers (for men)

>> No.21933725

>>21933615
should have been 4, ngmi

>> No.21933771

As a retail wagie, I spend all day watching blacks steal.

>> No.21933783

>>21930760
Going to read some philosophy of education and rhetoric next. Help me decide you guise..!

https://strawpoll.com/polls/wAg3Awzwoy8

>> No.21933788

>>21933663
Why do you think I have a soft spot for people like Pol Pot?

>> No.21933805

>>21933663
I was able to identify 4 of the 5 authors as Jewish

>> No.21933806

Egocentric monism

>> No.21933881
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21933881

I can honestly say I don’t like anything. Literature, movies, music, art. It’s all so boring. I’m panicking because I don’t like anything anymore and it’s been like this for years. I don’t want to wake up anymore.

>> No.21933910

Why do I get the feeling that Gen X loves scatological humor? Anytime I come across some idiot posting an image of shit on social media, like Styxhexandhammer or someone else, they're always Gen X? what is wrong with that generation?

>> No.21933923

>>21933881
I was really apathetic and disinterested in everything until I was about 25. My first real interest was literature and I got into it during in throes of a deep depression.

>> No.21933935

>>21933005
Go to Mt Athos

>> No.21933964

>>21933923
The reverse for me. I loved it all until the age of 25. I’m 33 now and everything is just hell for me. I can’t seem to care about any of it. I just mock it all.

>> No.21933983

>>21933642
Having a knife and trenchcoat sometimes does that.

>> No.21934010

I keep trying to come up with ways to salvage my career but I’ve got nothing. I’ve been in a dead end job and now I’m living with my mother at thirty years old. This is pathetic.

>> No.21934056

>>21933881
Go try and find real experiences in the world rather than just passively consuming media. You can't live vicariously through media even if it's "highbrow" or whatever.

>> No.21934067

>>21934056
I guess I’ve always enjoyed life the most when I could live vicariously through art. I’ve tried “living” more. I even went on a spontaneous date with a cute girl younger than me and we made out all night. It gave me a little rush and made me feel alive for maybe a few hours. Then I just crashed and am back to square one. It’s all extremely fleeting and not worth the effort.

>> No.21934078

>>21933910
Because most of us were alive during the “end of history” and felt like humor was a place where anything really goes

>> No.21934081

She may be trippin' but no amount of trippin' can send me to succumb to depression cause I know myself. Jordan Peterson really has made a generation of incels.

>> No.21934086

>>21933881
>I can honestly say I don’t like anything. Literature, movies, music, art. It’s all so boring. I’m panicking because I don’t like anything anymore and it’s been like this for years.
So? Not to sound patronizing but, then what?

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>>21933771
Enjoying surfing the Kali Yuga, anon? :=}

>> No.21934101

>>21934086
>then what?
Can’t live long like this. It’s either an hero or find a way to go back.

>> No.21934130

>>21933470
But God created me, all the way to my personality and predispositions, so yes, he would make me sin. Even if the decision was my own, God made my predisposition to make that kind of choice.

>> No.21934189

>>21934091
Oh man that takes me back.

>> No.21934204

>>21934130
Thats a very interesting point and it's worth looking at scripture for an answer. When Scripture says we must be "born again" it does not mean so metaphorically. It means it literally. Throughout the epistles it said that our "old man" our "outter man" must be killed. It says also that we must be crucified with Christ. Our personality and dispositions must be renewed. This is the meaning of ressurection. That new life in you comes from Christ as the Holy Spirit, and will thereby justify you.
>Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me
Romans 7:20

>> No.21934226

I got 0/3 right.
https://www.philosophyexperiments.com/wason/

>> No.21934238

Happy 4/20!!!

>> No.21934239

>>21934226
Thats just testing your understanding of conditional statements (I also got 0/3)

>> No.21934244

>>21934226
I got 1/3 right

>> No.21934245

>>21930773
You can travel back to Europe, like your parents travelled from Europe to the US

>> No.21934249

>>21934245
Europe is a hell hole man don't give him bad advice like that

>> No.21934283

>>21934245
I can barely speak or understand my mothertongue after growing up in America. It's not that simple.

>> No.21934377

I've had a dream about a girl I had a crush on but haven't seen for like 10 years now. It happens once in a while, always makee me feel like shit. I think I got over it but my brain didn't it seems.

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21934405

i have nightmares of my PC catching a virus or breaking completely almost every night

>> No.21934413

Video game addiction is better than imageboard addiction.

>> No.21934423

>>21934405
I try to backup my work and rare folders in multiple places that arent cloud. I am kinda scared I will forget to update for a long time and lose a yea of work or something.

>> No.21934426

>>21934405
>i have nightmares of my PC catching a virus
lmfao just run malwarebytes from safe mode, that will always clean whatever you can catch. Good exploits are 100% reserved for high-value targets, and your collection of hentai isn't it.

>> No.21934446

The road is still ahead of me but I'm dead tired.

>> No.21934503

>>21931410
>art can not tell us anything
Well, it does because interpretation is a thing. Humans trying to interpret things that had meaning to previous humans produced new meanings. Often it produces multiple meanings because at least one of the archaeological community will misread something, one of them will have some weird theory that came to them in a dream, and one of them will steal the key artefact that makes the rest of the find make sense. And in the original society who left the artefacts, people had different ideas about what was one man's treasure and another's trash. Art is open to interpretation and trends, so it can provide insight into social meanings, but current social meaning will also diffract those meanings through our own sense of meaning and importance. Any work of art is going to tell the viewer something seen through their own lens, and that is further warped by however many layers of interpretations viewers of the viewer layer on top of that.

>> No.21934505

>>21931410
Nah dog, I'm a platonist about beauty, as is anyone who is good at math.

>> No.21934569

>>21934405
bro get off your pc

>> No.21934580

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XyzIX87zuTw

>> No.21934587

>>21934405
Lol I had a virus nightmare months ago

My desktop became a distorted abstract piece of art with messages everywhere being like "click here to fix" *click* "lol idiot you're so stupid"

>> No.21934593

>>21933910
My 30yo friend on discord has said "I eat ass" hundreds of times

Hes kinda like an autistic npc who repeats the same few lines of dialogue

>> No.21934599

>>21933143
I just do mate-in-1 puzzles for funsies

https://lichess.org/training/mateIn1

>> No.21934619

>>21933023
Quit everything except eating, drinking water, exercise, buddhism books, and then meditate 10 hours a day

>> No.21934621

>>21934619
did you do that? what are the results?

>> No.21934699

>>21934621
Im a beginner and meditate 30 mins a day right now but its getting easier

My way of viewing things has improved since I rarely come to 4chan anymore and have quit many things (porn, caffeine, chocolate, alcohol, weed, games, music that isnt calming, mindless internet browsing)

Everything comes at a cost

What goes up must come down

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yYWvUoN4yt8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9Zd9qvJUr-o
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZrMOLqgv714
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Oswc-jAgwgo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iEIqVq7EZqE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TK-MbNj83NM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dy-RI3FrdGA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=toVNeTrwbtc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pPk-pxhyYeg

>> No.21934727

>>21931846
When you die you're not bringing any regrets with you so just leave them

>> No.21934730

>>21934727
>yeah bro, just ignore that malignant cancer. it will go away by itself xD

>> No.21934757

>>21934730
what does that have to do with regret

>just ignore it

Actually, yes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A9Av3W8ZFXk&t=273s
4:33
Also 29:35


https://youtube.com/watch?v=89yoeu9idGQ

>> No.21934768

Would you just pretend a bad job never even happened if you only had it for 10-11 months?

>> No.21934776

>>21931592
try audiobooks.

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>>21934699
or you could just stop trying to be better and go with the flow of what comes naturally to you instead of trying to uplift yourself so that you can revere your own ego for being so prim, proper and better than others through virtue
when you let go of the desire to be better than others you ironically become better because you're no longer wrestling with your shadow to hide your true self

>> No.21934788

>>21934783
>when you let go of the desire to be better than others
not that anon but as long as I live among other people, I wont stop comparing myself with them. I've already isolated myself from people.

>> No.21934790

>>21934788
>i won't stop comparing myself with them
that sounds like a very you problem to me, you've clearly made a choice with conviction and want to compare yourself to others so have fun with that

>> No.21934795

>>21934790
I just cant stop doing so because my worldview is that you're either a winner or a loser with no inbetweens. you lose if you're a weirdo like me.

>> No.21934797

>>21932279
ok Elliott

>> No.21934803

I’m thinking about going to graduate school or professional school. The main thing holding me back is that I’ll be in my 30s before matriculating.

>> No.21934805

>>21934795
you can stop doing it the moment you realize it isn't serving you at all and is only hindering your well being, you do it because you want there to be winners and losers and you want to be a winner, if you're not a winner then why do you still uphold the duality as the loser?
most likely reason is that you still hold hope that one day you'll be the top dog and then you'll have the fancy cars, the hot women, the fat wallet, the white picket fence, the loving wife, the successful kids and whatever else you got sold as the end goal of life, achievement and success
>my form of losing is being neurodivergent
then you'll never be a winner, you can't change what you were born as so your duality world view will always dub you as a loser, when you're tired of feeling like a loser for being born feel free to let go of that world view, it's literally just a thought you cling to because some boomer told you so or you saw it in tv or absorbed it from somewhere else
you can be happy right now if you chose to be but it would cost you to let go of that kind of comparative self flaggelating world view and to actually accept yourself as you are for once in your life

>> No.21934814

>>21934805
>it would cost you to let go of that kind of comparative self flaggelating world view
Yes. I would lose my anger that way and I'm nothing without my suffering. Imagine talented pianist cutting own his own hands. He's nothing then. Paradoxically, I do understand that my anger and tears cannot change anything which is important to me, yet I still feel anger and I feel angry at myself for feeling angry. Not normal enough to adapt to society but not weird enough to carve my own path. Do my ramblings come off as a self-flagellation? Ofcourse. I dont trust myself.

>> No.21934841

>>21934814
you sound like you have learned to infantilize yourself and that you think your resentment entitles you to something, you only get what you pry out of the cold dead hands of those who have it now, modern world has taught the citizens that yelling loud, marching outside in a group and being a victim is political power
real political power comes from the fact that you deciding not to go to work halts an industry to the point they have to react to it, real physical power comes from the fact that you're not only able but willing to crack heads if that is what it takes to hold onto what is yours or to take what you believe belongs to you

but those require a spine and modern world will tell you "just protest, just demand and your complaining will make a difference", only power those people have is boycott and they're not even using it right

>> No.21934877

>>21934783
Going with the flow is lazy nonsense that leads to society ending up where we are now

It's not about "being better than others".

It's about reducing suffering.

Try to follow the eightfold path and you'll see.

>> No.21934880

People are going to retard out over this question, but I'll ask it anyways:
Why are women now so compelled to show every inch of their naked bodies to everyone for literally nothing more than attention? I understand that they may benefit monetarily or materially afterwards. They may even use it to get a boyfriend. But why do they show off themselves to everyone for literally almost nothing but attention and validation? To most men/people who aren't coomers its disgusting and off putting. Its hard to believe that in decades past seeing a woman's ankle or thigh was considered taboo and exhilarating. Maybe its the female thrill of committing a social taboo? I just don't understand why someone would debase and devalue themselves to their body, then turn around and complain about it. It seems that feminism has convinced women that the male's perspective is the only valid perspective, that being that they are only as useful as their vagina and body and anything outside of that (besides education for some reason) is worthless.

>> No.21934890

>>21934783
>hide your true self

We're a sum of our genetics and environment. We've had little say in how we've become, but we can change things to reduce suffering in ourselves and others.

The eightfold path is the solution.

>> No.21934895

>>21934890
Are you going to eventually go to the tenfold path or are you just gonna stay at eight?

>> No.21934898

>>21934877
>try dogma to know the way
how's that going for you?
>>21934890
>understands tabula rasa
>thinks the solution is adopting even more dogma
max stirner is the solution

>> No.21934900

>>21934795
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9bHM-mhgQyk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sY8lYexr72U
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LEPUX4eMUSw

>> No.21934904

>>21934898
Watch the videos linked and dwell on them.

>> No.21934908

>>21934898
>max stirner is the solution
Why do you think that?

>> No.21934911

>>21934904
i don't need someone to tell me to be okay with how things are and to be indifferent and detached to the world around me
>>21934908
because he tells you that all ideologies, values and dogma are just a method of control that is useless to you if you know what you're doing

>> No.21934930

>>21934795
Binary and dogmatic thinking, these are the groups of people who think like you:
>The Nazis
>Right-wing Political Parties
>Christian and Islamic Zealots
>Fence Sitters
Yes, I know, very funny. But there are literally people who will dogmatically shrug and fence sit on things or violently argue to "just not care.". Its hard to conceptualize but there are people who see the binary and assumed that they must fabricate a 3rd option that stands for nothing then for some reason think that people will flock to it.
>Progressives and "The Woke"
>Racial Justice Groups
>Left-wing Political Parties
>The Communists
My point is to not demean you, but to point out that you have caged yourself mentally. You have caged yourself so well that you have convinced yourself that there is no way out while holding the key. Its one thing to be too lazy to do it, its another thing to make an excuse that your thinking is outside of your control. Its not, you just ceded power over to your emotions and your unconscious self because maybe you are afraid that if you fail, it would be on you? I don't know I'm not going to sit here and play "Magic 8ball" with your mind but if you don't struggle against the thoughts and feelings that make you miserable they will transform and dominate you.
>>21934900
Not a Buddhist or a Stoic, but I've read both books as well as almost all the videos you have posted and I really appreciate seeing someone else who while has gone down the Buddhist path, to cross ways with you and find out we share a mutual interest.

>> No.21934937

>constipated shits are now coming out in the shape of balls with the diameters of fists
I actually said, out loud, with fear in my voice, "this is bad" the last time I took a shit, because the fist-shaped turd got stuck in my sphincter.
I believe it was Nietzsche who claimed that it is the buttocks that prevent us from believing ourselves to be Gods. Supposedly, it was in relation to the apogryhpal story of Napoleon at Waterloo, who, suffering from a severe bout of hemorrhoids, was unable to sit on his horse, and hence, unable to properly survey the battlefield, and hence, lost. The conqueror of Europe, the zeitgeist itself in the flesh - defeated by his own ass.
There is wisdom in this.
I feel that I must soon go and strain out another football-sized turd. Wish me luck dear anons, for I am, unironically, gripped by fear.

>> No.21934942

>>21934880
Why are men now so compelled to show every inch of their dick and bank account to everyone for literally nothing more than attention? I understand that they may benefit monetarily or materially afterwards. They may even use it to get a girlfriend. But why do they show off themselves to everyone for literally almost nothing but attention and validation? To most women who aren't sluts or golddiggers its disgusting and off putting. Its hard to believe that in decades past seeing a man cry was considered taboo and exhilarating. Maybe its the male thrill of committing a social taboo? I just don't understand why someone would debase and devalue themselves to their dick and material goods, then turn around and complain about it. It seems that masculinism has convinced men that the female's perspective is the only valid perspective, that being that they are only as useful as their wallet and cock and anything outside of that (besides video games for some reason) is worthless

>> No.21934945

>>21934226
>>21934239
>>21934244
how? I don't consider myself to be the most logical thinker and I always sucked at math but those were very simple problems, though I did mark the first one incorrectly but I realized my mistake checking the yellow as well as soon as I proceeded to the second, so I should've just taken a moment longer. I genuinely don't understand how you can get all of them wrong though.

>> No.21934956

Having the police/legal system on your back after never drawing any attention is some spooky shit. Such a weird feeling to know you were just living as usual minding your own business and now the full force of the state could just reach out and squash your life like a bug is such a helpless sensation.

>> No.21934957

>>21934898
>how's that going for you?
Pretty good.
.

>> No.21934959

>>21934911
>>21934911
Chaos is not the way. Rules exist for a reason. Doing whatever you feel like is how we often end up in situations which lead to more suffering.

>> No.21934961

>>21934956
No idea why I wrote that like an esl

>> No.21934967

He changed everything for her, with his gentle words and tender touch. He made her feel alive, illuminating the heart and soul. He made her believe in something higher, something divine. She had been dreaming of him, without knowing his name or his face, and now he has arrived.

>> No.21934973

I have no problem talking to people and I don't get particularly nervous in social situations, but I still have trouble making friends. I'm good at making acquaintances that I meet a few times and then drift away from. It sucks ass.

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>>21930760
IT WAS MORE THAN SOFT PORN FOR THE GAYMAN
HE REMEMBER MY SPRINTER SAID I WAS IN THE RAPEVAN

>> No.21934975

>>21934911
>he tells you that all ideologies, values and dogma are just a method of control that is useless to you if you know what you're doing
Sounds like an idealogy.

Do people really know what they're doing and how it affects themselves and others?

Maybe they need a guide or at least a set of values to follow for themself.

But what if many people agree with those "values" because they seem to sound good and tell others about them?

>> No.21934988

All my heroes were manlets, Faulkner, Ravel, Mishima the list goes on. Yes, I was raised by the 4channel.org algorithm.

>> No.21934999

>>21934942
I know your being ironic and making fun of me but I'll break it down for you easily on why my question is valid but why yours isn't
>Why are men now so compelled to show every inch of their dick and bank account to everyone for literally nothing more than attention?
I know there was a case of dudes sending their dicks in DMs to girls, it probably still happens now, but they aren't doing it on social media, publicly, for everyone to see. Also, I think a few places made it illegal as well. As for the bank account thing, I've never, ever head that before outside of a handful of cases: most of them being youtube videos where they are attempting to dab on people saying they are poor. Both of these actions are arsine to me regardless.
>They may even us it to get a girlfriend.
There's a lot of debate over who controls the dating and sexual market as of now. I think Women were under the illusion that they were because they are ultimately the one that makes the choice from the courters they receive. They then mistook either Male sexuality or perceived Male naivete towards them as a chain that ultimately bound Men to Women and tried to squeeze more out of them by demanding "better quality men" and setting crazy high standards while also still going out with Men that they didn't like for the experience of a free meal. I don't think they were counting on Men just leaving Education, the Workforce, and the dating market in droves. The newest and biggest cohort of Men are virgin Men between the ages of 30 to 40 right now.
>To most women who aren't sluts or golddiggers its disgusting and off putting
Maybe I'm experiencing the same blinders as my Female counterparts, but I don't really know or even see any of these women. That being said, I'm not a very social person and I don't date. But most of tiktok and youtube is full of women complaining they can't find a man or that men won't date them because of their body count or because they didn't want to go on a "cheap" date or something.
>Its hard to believe that in decades past seeing a man cry was considered taboo and exhilarating.
It still is taboo to cry as a man unless your gay or on the left. If you go outside of the weird White Collar LGBT world, this is still the case.
>I just don't understand why someone would debase and devalue themselves to their dick and material goods, then turn around and complain about it.
I've never known a man to complain about material success, lol. I agree about the dick thing though, dudes would always brag in the locker room about how big their dicks are and shit and I just never got it.
>It seems that masculinism has convinced men that the female's perspective is the only valid perspective
Well the Government and Social Institutions seem to agree with how they are acting, but the Women's perspective does matter in courting and when your married to them. Outside of that a Woman's opinion on how Men live independent of that does not matter and vice versa.

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>>21931582
>None of the people from history that I admire were this far behind at this age or made as many mistakes as I did.
There's always a first.
>I discovered what I really wanted to do very late in life
I'm 27 mate, I still ponder about that. As long as little by little you invest in that you can achieve fulfillment. I do not wish to advice you on anything for I don't feel the right person to do so but I believe you will be better.

>> No.21935008

>>21934988
>heroes
>three draft dodger/too manleish to do anything meaningful in war
>faulkner even made shit up about it

>> No.21935161

>>21934937
Good post.

>> No.21935165

Lit is obsessed with Indian esoterica and metafisiks* because these works are public domain and spammed on the board.

>> No.21935193

>>21935165
They are also pretty interesting in the Buddhist context, some of the Hindu stuff is interesting too but I'm not gonna like the stories and the War and Peace level cast of Characters their religion has kinda scares me off, most of the Hindu I've actually bothered with heavily intersected with Buddhism. That being said, Ancient Greek metaphysics always interested me more.

>> No.21935198

>>21930760
I'm starting to realize that a lot of people have a lack of self-awareness and go along with what their brain tells them. Not in the instinct way, but that they can't sit back and observe their own mind and brain with their consciousness.

Like non-player characters.

>> No.21935210

>>21935198
Are there actually people who never introspect?

>> No.21935213

>>21934942
>any criticism of women is unwarranted and mend do it worse so men can't criticize women but women can criticize men
exactly the reason most men in the millennial and gen z are either going over seas to get brides or aren't dating period. The marriage industry in the west is starting to bankrupt too, which I think is funny.

>> No.21935214

Huge regret taking a staff job at university.

>> No.21935234

>>21935210
I think it's normal for people who introspect to think that's normal. Vice versa for people who don't. It's just that the vast majority never introspect.

>> No.21935261

>>21935234
That's fair. Do you think that there are limits when it comes to introspection?

>> No.21935276

>>21935261
The limit is when you have nothing to process once you've processed what's in your mind. You can't look into an empty room and try to analyze the emptiness.

>> No.21935285

realized today that "the beatles" is just retarded wordplay and feel a little stupid

>> No.21935291

>>21935276
So you cant analyze a life without experiences?

>> No.21935299

>>21935291
That's what you're looking into your mind for, right? A mind is an empty room, and when you feel something, like say a physical sensation (warm water), it starts existing. 'Seeing' a memory is also that same principle. Same with emotions. If you have an empty mind, there's nothing to process and introspect for.

>> No.21935303

>>21935299
What is the end goal of introspection according to you? An empty mind?

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21935305

Some of my friends keep saying they wanna have a drink and get together. But every time we plan on doing that, something or another keeps coming up to post-pone the plan ahead to another day.

At this point, I may as well give up on it.

>> No.21935311

>>21935305
we're your friends now

>> No.21935322

>>21935311
Never had that doubt on my mind ,Brother.

>> No.21935324

>>21935303
It's already in the word:
Intro, spection. That means looking inside. Introspection can't be a goal in and of itself. It's a tool you use to, well, look inside. *Then* you have things you can work with.

The ultimate end-goal of introspection is having the ability to look inside the mind whenever you please, like a reflex.

>> No.21935338

>>21935324
cont.

Like, you don't look through a telescope randomly into the sky to just 'look' through the telescope, do you? You do that so that you can point it somewhere and look at something specific. If there's nothing in the sky, including anywhere in the universe, then what's the point?

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I want to build a fantasy world but the moment I try to solidify an element and write it down, I instantly feel like something is "lost" from the idea space; like I'm not allowed to make a decision in my own imagination. I can't be sure this isn't a really roundabout way for me to procrastinate on a creative venture.

>> No.21935343

>>21935261
>>21935276
I think the limit is highly contextual. You are a physical being as well as a metaphysical one. You can't spend all your time in one and not the other but a couple of lifestyles demand that you do so its best to find a balance. Some people will always tilt towards one or the other innately, the trick is finding out which side you tilt too. With that being said, common sense and gut feelings should prevail on the judgement of this.

>> No.21935370

I tend to think I’ve screwed things too badly to move forward in the way I want to. I pray to God for help and sometimes it seems like I’m receiving a sign and other times not.

>> No.21935398

>>21934226
>>21934945
the common interpretation of the by far most common result, which is getting 1 answer out of 3 correct, is that people tend to assume bijection and to only check the cards that can be used to confirm the rule rather than disprove it, which btw is a widely researched phenomenon called confirmation bias, so they get the first two wrong as they're the same question with different symbols, but because the third question refers to a real situation that's easy to imagine because it's what happens in real life people pick what makes sense to them rather than what they think answers the logics question, so they get it right
the most likely reasons why one might not get even one answer right are, in order:
>overanalyzing the questions without having a good understanding of logics
>a good mix of stupidity and crippling autism

look up "Wason, Johnson-Laird" on google scholar or anywhere else for more in depth info, or the Oxford handbook of thinking and reasoning for a broader and more accessible introduction to these concepts

follow me for more psychology

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21935428

I wanna quit vidya. I wanna find a hobby that I can suck my life into that outputs something.

>> No.21935429

It would’ve been preferable to have no track record as opposed to a bad track record. I feel like my life has been a failure and I should have been a NEET.

>> No.21935431

>>21935428
what do you play?

>> No.21935435 [DELETED] 

>>21935428
Literally me for the last 10 years. Not finding the right footing from the start fucking sucks.

>> No.21935444

>>21935429
Can't you basically go NEET anytime if you're in the US?
Kinda jealous, in my shit country I can't get benefits even though I'm retarded aside from cheaper transportation.

>> No.21935450

>>21935431
Almost everything. Singleplayer to Multiplayers.
I'm playing Elden Ring right now and although I enjoy the soul series, its over stayed its welcome to me. I fortunately have not touched MMOs and MOBAs so I would say I did decent on that front.
But with 300+ steam games and countless hours playing PS2 games, its a bit much. I don't regret playing games, I just don't want it to be my main source of entertainment anymore.

>> No.21935458

>>21935444
Holy shit I always see number 44 lately and now my post is 444 at 18:44 I wonder what it means.

>> No.21935466

>>21935444
No. You only get unemployment benefits when you’re fired and as a single, white make with no dependents and no disabilities there’s zero chance you get any sort of welfare. I was speaking more about the past than the future.

>> No.21935490

>>21935398
I overanalyzed. I thought it seemed too easy, so it must be a trick question about the rule, but I only tricked myself.

>> No.21935513

Sometimes I feel like I had a chance to really improve my life back around 2020 but I blew it. Now I’m in my 30s and it feel like it’s just too late.

>> No.21935521

>>21935513
This but 2016 for me. I made a grievous mistake that year.
t. also in 30's

>> No.21935538

>>21935521
Mind sharing what it was?

>> No.21935555

>>21935538
Its simple. I moved back at parents place and isolated myself from the outside world for 5 years. I've never recovered from it even now. There were a couple even bigger mistakes but moving back was the most recent one.

>> No.21935569

>>21935555
Are you able to move out now? I’ve been living at my mom’s for a little while. I think it’s so common for our age dude. If it weren’t for student loan debt financing housing for the 18-25 year olds, we’d all be living at home.

>> No.21935607

>>21935569
Parents are paying for my studio apartment rent. I need to find job.

>> No.21935626

>>21935607
Oh, well you’re out now so I wouldn’t even worry about the fact that you lived with them for a while. I’m currently living with my mom and have been here for almost 2 years. I’ve had a job so in retrospect I probably should’ve just lived out where I worked, but instead I went remote and tried to save money.

What sort of job are you looking for?

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Next thread

>>21935657
>>21935657
>>21935657

>> No.21935728

>>21935626
Something that requires even a bit of brain. It's shameful for me to work in retail or construction.

>> No.21935771

>>21935728
I don’t think there’s anything shameful about it, but what you want is what you want. I think you should try to get more specific though.

>> No.21935797

>>21935771
I live in a small town so there's not much of an option.

>> No.21935802

>>21935797
Would you be willing to move for a job?

>> No.21935805

>>21934942
I know you tried to uno reverse that anon, but it didn't work because males dont behave that way

>> No.21935813

>>21935398
Yeah my problem was that I convinced myself that the question is not a biconditional and so therefore could not have two answers

>> No.21935830

>>21935802
I do but I really want to continue therapy. I dont want to run away from it for the 4th time.

>> No.21935904

>>21935830
You can’t continue therapy if you move?

>> No.21935918

>>21935904
Yes. I'd have to move to other end of country.

>> No.21935935

>>21935918
I don’t see why but if that’s true and therapy is more important to you, stick where you’re at so you can get the therapy. A job is just a job, man. It doesn’t have to be particularly good. It just has to pay the bills.

>> No.21935962

>>21935935
>It doesn’t have to be particularly good. It just has to pay the bills
That's my fools pride telling me, atleast something even half-smart. I'll call for that mailman ad tomorrow.

>> No.21936332

tummy full of french fries ughhh

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>>21934226
>>21934239
>>21934945
Deuces.