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Shakespeare >>>>>> Cervantes

>> No.21926385

Both are good. No need to fight over two of the greatest writers of Early Modern Europe.

>> No.21926387

>Shakespeare
>Shake Spear
>A warrior

>Cervantes
>Servant Ass
>A donkey

>> No.21926395

>>21926387
Funny because Cervantes was the one who actually fought in battle at sea and even lost an arm because of it, whereas Shakespeare was just a gay actor.

>> No.21926407

>>21926377
Bold opinion.

>> No.21926408

>>21926395
He was a slave

>> No.21926411

>>21926377
Clearly. Who says otherwise?
Though one has the advantage
of being a 'pastiche' of several
different authors, last I read, so...

>> No.21926413

>>21926387
Cervantes was an actual warrior.

>> No.21926418

>>21926377
delusional anglo subhuman.

>> No.21926432

>>21926413
He was a slave

>> No.21926443

>>21926408
>>21926432
Cervantes fought in Lepanto before he became a slave.

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21926451

Rabelais >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shakespeare

>> No.21926458

>>21926451
Rabelais was the French Cervantes, very funny and rich in social commentary but lacking in artistic finesse.

>> No.21926459

>>21926458
>but lacking in artistic finesse
What about all those words he made up? He was Finnegans Wake 400 years before Joyce

>> No.21926467

>>21926408
No, he was in prison after the war.

>> No.21926473

>>21926387
>shakespeare
>warrior
lmao

>> No.21926482

>>21926443
So? He was a slave. You read slaves books. Gross.

>> No.21926486

>>21926482
b8

>> No.21926487

>>21926467
Cope. He was a slave.

>> No.21926496

>>21926486
Cope. He was a slave. Reading books by slaves is a sign of spiritual impoverishment however you try to rationalize it.

>> No.21926501

>>21926487
Cope for what? He fought in a war and was imprisoned. Meanwhile Gayspeare was writing faggot sonnets and taking it up the ass. I don’t read writers who never went to war.

>> No.21926518

>>21926459
Coming up with words is not the same as having artistic sensibilities and good taste. There are many good French writers who had an eye for aesthetic refinement, but what Rabelais is known for is quite the opposite.

>> No.21926524

>>21926496
Everyone is a slave before they are set free. Reading the writings of a warrior who laughed at the face of death during war is one of the most spiritually enriching experiences for a heterosexual man.

>> No.21926541

I say Cervantes, Rabelais, and Shakespeare were just a bunch of sick fuckos who liked making books full of jokes about Jews, fat people, cunts, and women .Cervantes wrote plays, and so did Shakespeare. Rabelais wrote novels, and so did Cervantes.
Their humor primarily appealed to the lower classes of their respective countries, despite writing stuff full of words that only highly educated people with a classical education would have understood.
They all just serve to indicate to us that no amount of knowing Latin and Greek will make you any less of a bawdy, lecherous old man who makes bad taste jokes.

>> No.21926550

>>21926482
Yeah well you're gay, you live a gay life. Gross

>> No.21926564

>C*rvantes
One hit wonder

>> No.21926581

>>21926458
I love the style of both Rabelais and Cervantes in literalist translation (Frame and Ormsby respectively). It is ironic that Ormsby himself says Cervantes lacked artistic finesse and clearly seldom bothered to do much as proofread his rough drafts, yet I find Ormsby’s translation of this sloppy style to be delectable

>> No.21926640

>>21926387
>>Shakespeare
>>Shake Spear
A Spear Chucker? Old Bill was a black. I knew it!

>> No.21926656

>>21926564
Yeah, unlike 'lais, who was a two-hit wonder with 'tua and 'gruel

>> No.21926665

>>21926408
He was a pow; and respected to the point that he was permited to write in his reclusion.

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>>21926377
>>21926387
>>21926408
>>21926432
>>21926482
>>21926487
>>21926496
>>21926564

>> No.21927263

>>21926564
Having read Persiles and Sigismunda, can't argue with you. What a shitty, boring trash to write after Don Quixote

>> No.21927381

My thoughts hold mortal strife;
I do detest my life,
And with lamenting cries
Peace to my soul to bring
Oft call that prince which here doth monarchize:
But he, grim grinning King,
Who caitiffs scorns, and doth the blest surprise,
Late having decked with beauty's rose his tomb,
Disdains to crop a weed, and will not come.