New &ampamp Interview

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New &amp Interview Anonymous Fri Apr 14 02:04:45 2023 No.21909823 [Reply] [Original]

Hi everyone. We did an interview with Ryan/K. R. Hartley, the editor of &amp magazine. It'd mean a lot (especially, I'm sure, to him) if you could check it out and hear his voice and the enthusiasm he has for /lit/ and the work he did for &amp. He goes into some neat history about former /lit/ projects like the Quarterly and the Moby Dick commentary, as well.

https://youtu.be/GqFXfR9BYZk

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 02:12:14 2023 No.21909861 >&amp Christ how long have I been on this fucking website?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 02:32:18 2023 No.21909946 >>21909823 I never submitted to &amp but really pulling for this dude. I hope we see him on the other side clean and sober because he gives off great vibes

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 02:36:39 2023 No.21909961 >>21909823 Can you post a link to the Unreal Discord?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 03:30:38 2023 No.21910142 >>21909961 There is no Unreal Discord. Whatever you have heard is merely rumors and creative fiction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 03:33:08 2023 No.21910150 Reminder that the appeal to retarded schizoposting is what killed &amp. The first few issues had some genuinely good shit tho, The Justice System is still hilarious to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 03:34:36 2023 No.21910153 >>21910150 Many would argue that drugs killed &amp

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 03:43:46 2023 No.21910172 editor is alive. dude was posting on the &amp insta earlier today. hope he’s stayed off the crack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 03:53:18 2023 No.21910203 >>21910172 I'm more concerned about the fentanyl.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 04:02:45 2023 No.21910219 >>21910203 We all have our vices. I bet you drink too much or something. Don’t act so superior. If life throws enough shit at you you could end up just like him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 04:06:00 2023 No.21910229 File: 267 KB, 816x816, A84D7A15-F011-4307-8015-6BEEE8F4F406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so are we still getting more &amp ?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 04:22:31 2023 No.21910273 >>21910142 the hosts shut it down after getting exposed for doxxing someone they had drama with

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 05:48:57 2023 No.21910475 So is it pronounced 'lamp' or 'amp?'

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 05:53:13 2023 No.21910483 >>21910475 It's "ampersandamp"

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 06:14:22 2023 No.21910514 >>21910475 It’s pronounced “amp.” That’s short for “Amplify Trans Voices”

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 11:05:45 2023 No.21910981 >>21910172 Finally, some good news. I hope he wasn't just high on coke when he did the interview.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 11:11:28 2023 No.21910990
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>>21910273
Ok, one of the editors for /unreal/ here. I was behind the Oriental project
None of the editors (nor any contributors to our projects as far as we are aware, but that's a lot of people who we are not responsible for anyway) have engaged in doxxing of any sort

For about half a year now however, a number of individuals have taken issue with us, very likely for no other reason than we are trying to do something that goes beyond the board (because people here can be stupidly bitter and unhinged as we should have been prepared for) and this is the source of such rumours. Our server was first targeted by a number of raids by what we believe to have been a group of two or three, but utilising many more alt accounts than that.
We then did what we could to identify the people behind this (not their real identities, just what information they themselves had already made available) and when this was discovered several of us received threats of violence and doxxing ourselves. Now, we aren't too worried about that actually happening, but this is the source of the rumours that we engaged in doxxing ourselves.

Most posters saying this are probably from one of these individuals and if not they are responding to it being posted by these individuals at an earlier time

Because this situation became so much of a headache we decided to shut down the public server, what is the point after all if it leads to stupid shit like this instead and actually harms productivity?

However, someone convinced us to simply give the server to a trustworthy individual and let him turn it into a server for Writing /General/. A lot of those guys were already in the server, have contributed to unreal projects and so they can have it. The server should no longer be a target as unreal is not involved in admin any more or using it. We will however continue to drop by in order to share our podcast and ask for submissions for future projects

You can join the new server here https://discord.gg/HpuC4XPB

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 11:31:21 2023 No.21911034 >>21910981 update: sent the account a dm and it’s not editor, it’s some other dude running the account while editor is sorting out his life

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 11:43:05 2023 No.21911059 [DELETED]

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>>21910990
Here is literal proof of one of the Unreal hosts talking about doxxing another creator. Ignore the bullshit fake statement above. It’s a ploy they’ve cooked up to make Unreal look innocent when they all know they’re guilty as sin. Don’t trust them. Don’t submit to them. Don’t buy from them. Don’t help to promote the trash they peddle. Boycott Unreal Press if you care about internet privacy and anonymity.

/unreal/ press !!KJI2/HgsJdT Fri Apr 14 11:55:12 2023 No.21911088

>>21911059
Please explain how this is evidence of doxxing on our part?

Ari, the individual mentioned in your screenshot (possibly was not one of those involved in the raiding/ threats but we won't ever be able to confirm) was not doxxed by any of us. That is a discord username

In no sense is identifying malicious individuals openly in the way we did (not revealing personal information or going after them in real life, if we even could) doxxing

It is also very clear from the way you communicate you are a member of this malicious group, it's entirely transparent, any outside viewer can see.
You will be banned on site if you are found under a knew name stirring trouble in the new server btw, this is the agreement we have with the new owner

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 12:27:47 2023 No.21911159 >>21911034 Maybe it's one of the guys the &amp editor mentioned in the interview. I wonder if anyone is going to pick up &amp in his absence either

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 12:35:10 2023 No.21911177 I just wanna write for gods sake. How dare you interfere with /lit/ publications?

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 12:40:35 2023 No.21911188

>>21911034
There is a pathetic guy dead set on stealing the editors social credit so probably him. Since editor doxxed himself I'm not gonna give a shit about any account claiming to be him until he emerges again.

>>21911159
>is going to pick up &amp in his absence
I saw Ogden Nesmer debating some kind of mini-&amp issue to keep the torch burning, some others might be too

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:27:42 2023 No.21911315 It's weird hearing these guys talk about a thread in which people were shitting on the HMS Mariana story for having plot holes. I remember that thread and posted in it. We're almost famous bros

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:39:07 2023 No.21911344 File: 98 KB, 753x1200, FrzG2OJaQAE1xRV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is some of the gayest shit to come out of lit. i can't wait for the &amp saga to be over.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 13:54:38 2023 No.21911386

Judging by this podcast the &amp guy seems pretty cool. Where do you guys place accent from? I'm not even sure if he has an accent per se or if it's just the rhythm of his speech and his voice or what but I think he talks differently than what I hear where I'm from but he also doesn't sound southern or like a northeastern New York/ Jersey guy. Anyways all this talk about and activity from &amp and unreal really inspire me to write and make me want to write at my best level. Cool stuff they're doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 14:22:01 2023 No.21911460 >>21911386 He's Canadian. And same. Shit like this gets me pumped.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 14:29:09 2023 No.21911477 >>21910990 So dumb to shut down the server though. All momentum immediately lost.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 14:30:08 2023 No.21911480 >>21909823 Whatever we might think of the actions portrayed as of Unreal as of late, they've always been good at interviews and this—this is something special. &amp. Let that be the focus. Great stuff. Hoping all will be all right with the Editor.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 14:57:37 2023 No.21911557

Is the guy in this podcast (&amp editor) the same guy that made that thread a couple weeks ago? The thread that read like a series of strange, rambling stream of consciousness journal entries. If so he seems alright in this podcast compared to that thread, for sure.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 15:00:30 2023 No.21911570

>I was away from /lit/ for awhile, and when I came back F. Gardner had 17 new books.
Kek. He's such a prolific world famous author of Call of the Crocodile and other books from the Horrors Call series which are books set in Chicago that are connected but can be read in any order.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 15:14:30 2023 No.21911606 >>21911557 Yep. I believe this interview was recorded before that though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 15:56:02 2023 No.21911744 >>21911460 Have you ever submitted anything to &amp or unreal or any others?

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 16:06:46 2023 No.21911781

I have a section of a notebook that I use just to jot down ideas for potential novels, poems, essays, and mostly short stories. At this point there's hundreds of things in there ranging from one sentence ideas to paragraphs to short outlines. Whenever I decided to try to write I can't think of anything I want to write about so I refer to my ideas notebook and flip through it and don't want to write from any of the ideas I have written down so I just put it all away for next time. I think I'm just lacking the self-discipline to be a writer. I'm not going to make it guys.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 16:51:23 2023 No.21911981 >>21911781 Post skitzobook

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 17:13:01 2023 No.21912083 >>21909823 Honestly listening to this and hearing how on the roll Unreal and &amp and the lit scene in general is has inspired me to dig out some old stories I was working on. Will submit to Unreal if the stories are worth anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 17:46:57 2023 No.21912244 >>21909823 damn. didn't know he was that into Unreal. They had a genuine literary circle going it seems. Shame editor went and fucked himself over with drugs, there were sparkles of greatness there.

Anonymous Fri Apr 14 17:59:21 2023 No.21912296

>>21912244
Honestly, seeing how buddy buddy the two were kinda vindicates all those "writer from Unreal here hope you get better" comments on the thread where editor was saying goodbye and talking about being arrested for crack. Sounds like ryan didn't have a lot of other friends in his life who were sound minded, and once he got arrested there was no way for the discord guys to contact him and send their condolences save for through that thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 18:35:53 2023 No.21912481 >coronameron and annotated Moby dick anons worked on &amp I ironically very cool to know

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 19:00:22 2023 No.21912579 >>21912296 Losing his buddy the first year of COVID hit him really hard. You can tell in that thread where he had hoped his buddy would read and tell him what he thought of Chicken World.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 19:36:12 2023 No.21912720 This is an &ampersnapdt post based based based based I'm going to reply to my own post with based based

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 19:39:25 2023 No.21912734 >>21912720 based

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 14 21:02:37 2023 No.21913002 >>21912720 >>21912734 Not that anon Based >inb4 samefag Lol Baded

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 00:06:06 2023 No.21913579 Great listen desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 01:55:01 2023 No.21913944 >>21912083 We'd love to have you. Rising tide, and all that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 04:55:46 2023 No.21914549 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 09:09:59 2023 No.21915083 Did my essay on overpopulation ever make it in?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 13:40:00 2023 No.21915688 >>21909823 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 14:50:40 2023 No.21915880 >>21909823 Is there any way I can still get the moby dick /lit/ commentary?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 15:01:02 2023 No.21915894 >>21915083 Was that for the nonfiction anthology?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 15:12:29 2023 No.21915927 >>21915880 https://www.lulu.com/shop/herman-melville-and-anonymous/moby-dick/paperback/product-7wgny7.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 16:25:40 2023 No.21916203 >>21910229 Probably not for a long time but I’m thinking of starting a successor magazine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 16:55:34 2023 No.21916357 >>21916203 cool, I’m down to collab if you need a coeditor. do you have any experience with publishing or design?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 17:20:15 2023 No.21916462 >>21915927 >https://www.lulu.com/shop/herman-melville-and-anonymous/moby-dick/paperback/product-7wgny7.html THANKS

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 17:40:17 2023 No.21916554 >>21916357 No, no experience obvs

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 22:44:37 2023 No.21917814 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 23:38:03 2023 No.21917994 >>21916554 Why do you say 'obvs?' If someone says they're thinking about doing some project, and that's all they say about it would you think it's automatically implied that they have no experience with the thing they intend to do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 05:53:09 2023 No.21918902 Bump editor where are you

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 12:37:09 2023 No.21919722 >>21918902 I don't think he's coming back for a while. This is just like his hiatus from earlier where he vanished inexplicably due to being arrested.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:37:33 2023 No.21921314 >>21910219 Fentanyl isn't a vice; it's a substitute for suicide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:50:16 2023 No.21921352 >>21909823 saw F Gardner shilled this magazine recently. never heard of it before that. might check it out sometime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 01:58:49 2023 No.21922374 >>21921352 Thanks for stopping in Frank

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 02:00:32 2023 No.21922380 >>21922374 Is that what the F stands for? I thought it stood for Fag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 13:45:15 2023 No.21923995 Bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 15:04:18 2023 No.21924255 Strike 2.

Anonymous Mon Apr 17 16:28:15 2023 No.21924489

>>21917994
Wasn’t me there lol but I’ve self published already. I love &amp’s magazine format and would ideally aim to replicate it to a T. But no, no experience stringing together multiple stories and making graphic art but it sure looks fun to trial and error it!

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 21:20:43 2023 No.21925473 >>21924489 Keep us posted man. I'll contribute or at least support it in any ways that Im able to as long as it seems like it will be cool and not some bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 21:35:54 2023 No.21925523 >>21925473 Glad to see the interest. Tell you what, I'll learn how to actually publish magazines the way Hartley did and THEN I'll eventually return for some schizo call threads for submissions, help etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 04:41:40 2023 No.21926807 Bumping

Anonymous Tue Apr 18 12:46:58 2023 No.21927676

>>21924489
i feel the same, i just want to see it continue at a reasonable and steady/reliable pace, and give the editor room to be healthy and focus on his health and what he loves sans the stress. im just one anon with less talent than i act like i have, but im willing to step up. who else is?

Anonymous Tue Apr 18 20:07:16 2023 No.21928894
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Hey boiz.
Editor anon here. Or I guess you know my name now anyway. I want to apologize for seriously lolcowing myself, going crazy and abusing myself (it’s not the first time as most of you know). I am out of jail now for a sec but I’ll be back there soon for some more comeuppance.
I’ve decided to share the inbox and some website assets with some anons to better democratize &amp and help secure a brighter future for it. I don’t go back to jail for about another month, and in the meantime I’m going to be finishing some book reviews before I jump into a new issue of &amp or any other projects. I have a tendency to fill my whole plate while I’m sober and motivated and then let my efforts spoil and rot once I’m down and out, but I’m very serious about the book reviews and &amp in general so you can count on me to do that.

My gf and I read this thread last night and, man. There were tears. Which sounds gay but I have to say that the support blows my mind and breaks my heart. I’ll leave it at that lest I expose myself as emotional (okay).

I’m setting up everything now to hand over some of these reins, so bear with me, and bump the thread, and I’ll give an update this afternoon. Also if you don’t believe me when I say that I’m him, the only proof I have to offer before I drink this coffee and eat breakfast is this super shitty webpage template that I stashed when I was working:
https://lamp your.com/test
Talk very soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 20:08:31 2023 No.21928900 >>21928894 Lampbylit.com/test

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 20:24:13 2023 No.21928948 File: 2.75 MB, 1887x946, 4scren.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21928900 wtf? Is this where you're staying while you recover, bro?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 20:33:24 2023 No.21928987 >>21928894 Bump and wishing you the best man

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 20:55:44 2023 No.21929076 >>21928948 Heh nah. I made that website for them a couple years ago. I just often use the &amp site as my professional dumping ground for work projects. >>21928987 Thanks king. A bit embarrassed desu but I’ll live.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 21:07:52 2023 No.21929118 >>21928987 >>21909823 >>21909946 I’m mad at interrupting people kek Great interview tho. Miles and Oggy you guys are real princes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 18 23:49:36 2023 No.21929632 >>21928894 Sure thing pal, besides -- you're the only game in town without LitQuarterly and PineCone guy. Keep up the good work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 00:29:25 2023 No.21929748 >>21928894 I hope your GF helps you get your life in order.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 01:03:13 2023 No.21929798 >>21929748 Thanks man. Means a lot. I’ve just passed over the keys to the Cadillac. Some new editors and administrators coming onto the scene.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 01:13:41 2023 No.21929821 >>21929798 who are the new editors? are they the same ppl who’ve helped you edit in the past?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 01:49:09 2023 No.21929898 >>21928894 ey man, we're all human here. ive said to you before, im in it for the long haul and am here to help out any way i can.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 01:50:12 2023 No.21929903 >>21929821 >who are the new editors? also, this^

Anonymous Wed Apr 19 03:09:01 2023 No.21930082
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>>21929821
>>21929903
my friend jet and my friend fin are in the cockpit now. i'm going to focus on the book reviews and start prepping for issue sixteen and they're going to handle the Greatest Hits and some other Compilation stuff respectively. i'm excited. i lost access to my Canva account so all magazine design going forward is from the drawing board. keks for miles

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 03:10:02 2023 No.21930084 enormous shout out to Unreal for being the heroes we deserve

Anonymous Wed Apr 19 03:22:43 2023 No.21930111

>>21929798
Sucks about the drugs. Do they seriously keep sending you to jail over it? Who does that help?

Tough call handing things over but I can respect it. Do you trust these new people or are they just internet randos? The benefit of a dictatorship is unity of command. I can easily imagine this whole project disintegrating once its fate is decided by more than one. Internet autists will fight over any scrap of imagined power they perceive can be possessed. They can be extremely narrow-minded and may not buy into the idea that this project is cooler than them.

Question: can this process be reversed? Are you temporarily delegating in absentia or are you officially relinquishing direction over the project? Because you have done an admirable job despite your issues.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 03:27:08 2023 No.21930122 >>21930111 I’m pretty sure that the greatest hits guy is the best-of editor switching identities again. Both of the new guys might be him considering his track record.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 03:34:10 2023 No.21930141 >>21930122 Ah. Are we dealing with a fabulist here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 10:44:06 2023 No.21930964 >>21930082 >all magazine design going forward is from the drawing board. This might be an issue

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 11:03:26 2023 No.21930995 >>21930082 We’re all rooting for you editor anon. You’ve done a lot of work to make a bunch of weirdos feel good about their writing.

Anonymous Wed Apr 19 17:31:49 2023 No.21931885
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>>21930082
>i lost access to my Canva account so all magazine design going forward is from the drawing board
3ditor here. I can send over the Canva projects for 008 and 009. Who should I contact?

Anonymous Wed Apr 19 19:56:05 2023 No.21932352
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>>21930111
Checked. Can’t say too much about why I’m going to jail but I’m pretty sure I posted some actual documents the night I lost it. Pretty faggoty of me afterall. But no, jail doesn’t make things better, it’s part of the war machine and population control.
Jet and Fin are old contributors and I trust them. I’ve always encouraged people to take &amp and make it different. I’m excited. I’ll probably help Issue Sixteen and play it all by ear. And thank you. Slay on.
>>21930995
Slay queen.
>>21930964
>>21931885
Fucking hero. lamp.lit.magazine@gmail.com
Is my new Canva account.
God, what an absolute G Mensch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 19 19:57:09 2023 No.21932355 >>21931885 Once more, thank you, ancient and illustrious three dimensional editor

Anonymous Wed Apr 19 23:42:27 2023 No.21933105

>>21911781
The only thing you need to do is fucking write, man.
Stop deluding yourself by thinking that all writers come up with a total and completed work and then sit down and finish it in one shot.

Do writing exercises that actually require you to do some background work, scripting, whatever. Get practice for the real deal. Stop jotting down cool ideas.

Write scene sketches and intros and endings and middles and quilt and work from there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 00:08:10 2023 No.21933186 I need to talk to you I know you’re lurking here I know you read these threads I don’t want to resort to making this shit public but what other choice do I have stop stonewalling me I’m so tired I can’t do this anymore I can’t go on like this

Anonymous Thu Apr 20 00:34:10 2023 No.21933256

>>21933105
>Stop deluding yourself by thinking that all writers come up with a total and completed work and then sit down and finish it in one shot
Im definitely naive at best because I honestly thought that's exactly how it was done by real writers.
>Write scene sketches and intros and endings and middles and shit and work from there.
Im going to start doing this, starting tonight after dinner.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 01:21:37 2023 No.21933357 >>21933256 if you’re the kind of person who submits to amp no wonder it is the way it is

Anonymous Thu Apr 20 01:30:33 2023 No.21933391

>>21933105
>Stop deluding yourself by thinking that all writers come up with a total and completed work and then sit down and finish it in one shot.
I mean, if it's short enough. I wrote a 5000 word schizo rant in one go that came out pretty kino.

Still gotta suck it up and submit that to traditional mags.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 01:36:25 2023 No.21933405 >>21933357 ok :'(

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 01:37:08 2023 No.21933406 I know you check these threads I’m losing my mind stop doing this I can’t get calm why are you doing this the silent treatment is making everything worse

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 08:27:22 2023 No.21934383 >>21909823 dam they still putting these out. Dope.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 12:31:15 2023 No.21934786 >>21934383 Thanks. We're trying our best to continue making videos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 18:17:45 2023 No.21935783 UNREAL PRESS SRE KING AMONG MEN AND WE ARE NOT WORTHY

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 21:28:20 2023 No.21936463 >>21933186 >>21933406 Are you his girlfriend or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 20 23:04:56 2023 No.21936730 File: 791 KB, 1024x576, vlcsnap-2022-11-29-20h33m14s246.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21909823 I consider myself an... inconsistent &amp reader. I'd like to try writing reviews of previous material for an upcoming issue.

Anonymous Fri Apr 21 01:47:56 2023 No.21937157

>>21936730
You want to review writing from &amp and have those reviews in a new issue of &amp? That would be very strange, I think. Especially for bad reviews. I don't think any publication would be interested in printing bad reviews of their own work. And publishing only good reviews wouldn't look too good either. I think the whole idea is weird, but then again I don't know much about that kind of stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 21 01:58:14 2023 No.21937178 >>21937157 >I don’t know much about that kind of stuff then why offer your opinion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 21 07:08:12 2023 No.21937836 >>21936730 Yeah I’m into it. &amp will print anything you give them

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 21 10:52:38 2023 No.21938310 >>21937178 like you do

Anonymous Fri Apr 21 14:14:09 2023 No.21938737

>>21937178
Because it was a stupid ass idea. Sometimes when someone has a stupid ass idea the nice thing to do is let them know so maybe they reconsider and instead spend their time doing something worthwhile. Printing reviews of writing in the same book series that the writings came from, dude. Does that not seem absurd to you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 21 14:42:49 2023 No.21938826 >>21936730 Given the replies to this post: Don't submit it to &amp. Go about it in an independent way. Would still be interesting.

Anonymous Fri Apr 21 14:56:34 2023 No.21938865

>>21938737
&amp isn’t a book series, it’s a magazine. that’s the important distinction here. pulp magazines have a long history of publishing critical letters to the editor/author that contain negative feedback on stories from past issues as well as supportive letters containing positive feedback. it helps to foster discussion and garner attention from people who like the drama, for better or for worse. an example of
this would be the rivalry between HP Lovecraft and Fred Jackson that played out in the letters section of Argosy magazine, with each criticizing the other’s stories. their correspondance became an in-joke among the magazine’s readers, and helped launch both of their reputations. so no, it doesn’t seem like a weird idea to me. if a story garners a negative response it’s not a slight against &amp as a publication, it’s just commentary on that particular story. &amp publishes anything, good or bad, so incorporating a monthly section with some reader responses and reviews—like a combination of actual short reviews and shitpost responses screencapped from the previous month’s release thread—could be a way of acknowledging the sometimes absurd disparities in the quality of the content, as well as a funny homage to &amp’s message board origins. since you openly admit to knowing very little about magazines and publishing, perhaps you’re not the ultimate arbiter of whether an idea is stupid or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 21 16:53:23 2023 No.21939144 >>21938865 >someone not retarded in an &amp thread A “letters to the editor” and spread of screen caps with the initial reactions when the issue drops is a cool idea.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 21 19:27:52 2023 No.21939614 >>21939144 this seems reasonable.

Anonymous Fri Apr 21 20:29:09 2023 No.21939805

>>21939144
>not retarded

I’m definitely retarded, though perhaps not in the same way as the other commenters that you were comparing me to. I’m glad that you liked the idea of the monthly section, though. The inclusion of reader critiques and commentary through letters to the editor are a major part of what I find compelling about the whole magazine format, and why the distinction between book and magazine is so crucial here.

A novel is the product of a sole author’s vision—it’s a monologue of sorts, to which the reader becomes a passive audience. But a magazine is by its very nature collaborative: it may be curated by a single editor, but it is always comprised of other people’s creations. The inclusion of multiple voices and multiple forms of content (photographs, art, fiction, poetry, reviews, letters, classifieds) make the magazine format into a fascinating dialogue in which the reader can actively participate by offering his or her own contributions. Because the roles of creator and audience become blurred, I think that the magazine format acts as a sort of equalizer, curating and
facilitating the creation and discussion of art and media in a way that hadn’t been done before the pulp zine was created. The format embodies one of the unique qualities of the internet itself: a variety of content that can be responded to and engaged with publicly, not simply consumed in isolation.

Anyway, sorry for the autistic rambling; I just find this topic really interesting. I had a whole editorial vision for potential future issues of &amp, but I don’t think that those ideas will ever be actualized now.

Anonymous Fri Apr 21 22:28:39 2023 No.21940198

>>21939805
based effortposter, that gets to the heart of what makes &amp and lit so special to me. its about working together to make something bigger than one person could make on their own. nice that the editor is passing the torch, i hope the &amp spirit doesn’t burn out

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 02:10:18 2023 No.21940949 >>21932352 how can I get in touch with the new editors?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 04:42:10 2023 No.21941361 >>21940949 Host a séance and their spirits will approach.

Anonymous Sat Apr 22 05:26:15 2023 No.21941458

>>21939805
Editorfag here. I wholeheartedly condone your vision. Email me.
>>21940198
The fire remains inside. The torch is carried still. Thank you.
>>21940949
Same email. I gave them Gmail Delegate Access.
>>21941361
Yes that is still the best way to contact &a move Magazine.

This is actually an Unreal Thread tho so I’ma sage this bitxh

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 05:32:34 2023 No.21941479 Also remember: https://lampbylit.com/elite/ Login: anon Password: god

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 06:31:47 2023 No.21941610 Hold up Frank made a CYOA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 06:39:20 2023 No.21941621 >>21941610 Hi Gardner Please drown yourself All fields

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 07:04:38 2023 No.21941646 >>21941621 wow anonymous was a mistake I was literally curious

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 15:01:05 2023 No.21942557 >>21937157 In my estimation, a feature like that fits the spirit of &amp and /lit/. It's an extension of a forum. So why not include critical discussion?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 16:49:46 2023 No.21942882 >>21942557 I think so too. At least, when it's marketed as a reader's letter; I understand the sentiment of &amp seemingly reviewing itself to be a bit off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 16:57:40 2023 No.21942919 >>21909823 'So if maybe someone can be the Roeper and I get to be the Ebert-- I don't know-- "fat dead guy, dibs!"' Kek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 19:43:26 2023 No.21943582 >>21941610 nesmerniggers and unrealcucks are seething rn

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 22 23:51:48 2023 No.21944353 >>21932352 Sent the projects. Sorry, I was away for a few days.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 00:22:37 2023 No.21944440 >>21930122 >greatest hits guy is the best-of editor switching identities lol, fucking obviously. ari’s new pseudonym isn’t exactly subtle.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 00:31:31 2023 No.21944465

>>21944440
>yea i’m totally a different person haha, i just coincidentally happen to have assumed creative control over ari’s project after all of the drama and bullshit that he caused! it‘s not like i’m him or anything though, why would anyone think that? -jet, probably

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 00:39:06 2023 No.21944492 Issue 016 when

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 00:41:09 2023 No.21944499 WHEN CAN WE EXPECT BOOK REVIEWS

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 01:08:18 2023 No.21944577

>>21941458
I would email you, but I suspect that your buddy “Jet” wants me blacklisted from &amp and would just immediately delete anything that I sent before you actually got the chance to see it.

>>21944465
Nice. I know you’re in this thread, “Jet” (I won’t deadname you). When the best-of releases I don’t want to see anything in it that is even vaguely inspired by any of the graphic design that I did or the cover mock-ups that I made or the font choices that I suggested. I’m talking absolutely *nothing.* You don’t get to treat me like I’m stupid, ridicule me, insult me, devalue my contributions, threaten me, cut contact, come back and trick me into seeing all of the cruel shit that you said about me because you want to inflict maximum emotional pain, refuse all communication, force me out of &amp, and then still take advantage of all of the work that I put in to prop up your project. If you want to do it solo then start from the beginning and actually do everything yourself. I was involved in the project from its inception and spent significant amounts of time helping to curate the content for it, bump the threads, and generate ideas for you. If you don’t want me to be involved then don’t take advantage of any of my ideas. Use the original cover you created that everyone liked less than my redesign. Use your original font choices that everyone liked less than mine. Do it all yourself and see how that works out for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 01:33:03 2023 No.21944641 >>21944577 yikes &amp drama is heating up out here whos side should we take, &ampchads?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 02:21:21 2023 No.21944789 >>21944499 reviews of what books?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 02:41:14 2023 No.21944841 >>21909823 unrealcucks &amp interview not as based as f gardners &amp promo vid

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 02:42:15 2023 No.21944845 >>21944841 watch, it’s kino https://youtu.be/v3fmnCBHoIc

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 03:30:19 2023 No.21944971 File: 20 KB, 580x548, ECAB4FFE-C2FA-40A6-9D39-4904368EE355.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21944577 >>21944641 Best-of bros… it’s over

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 04:29:56 2023 No.21945133 >>21944641 >>21944971 this bad blood between graphic design anon and best of anon has me feeling like i’m a kid watching my mom and dad fight and stressing out because i know i’m gonna have to choose who to stay with when the divorce is over

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 05:20:25 2023 No.21945257 File: 58 KB, 498x412, pepewtf.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21944577 >mfw people are posting their private beef in a public thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 06:54:58 2023 No.21945497 I don't wanna read this whole thread and schizo drama I have no fucking knowledge of. I just wanna know, regardless of who, what, why, or where - what is happening with the next issue of &amp?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 06:57:11 2023 No.21945507 >>21944577 No disrespect but this all sounds really gay. Your post before re. letters to editor was insightful and in good spirit and now you act like a fag like this? Honestly cringe man. Forgiveness is the only way in life. Have more strength.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 08:14:25 2023 No.21945664 >>21944789 &amp said he was gonna review books on his yt man.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 14:06:31 2023 No.21946330

>>21945507
lol, the drama is that she’s a chick and they know each other irl and she was in love with him but after he said a bunch of fucked up shit about her in the unreal press discord she tried to an hero and then went crazy which is why he never finished the best of. it’s all very gay

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 14:46:54 2023 No.21946405 >>21945664 &amp has a yt? Do you have the link?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 15:36:47 2023 No.21946592 >>21946405 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vhVkTUV7bPI

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 17:08:13 2023 No.21946932 >>21946330 Ah. So what we’re witnessing here is a lovers’ quarrel?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 17:36:22 2023 No.21947037 On behalf of all &amp fans: >fuck graphic design >fuck jet >fuck tails of the unreal >fuck mobb deep >fuck biggie >fuck bad boy >fuck Frank Lopez >and fuck the Diaz brothers long-live editor anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 17:40:44 2023 No.21947051 >>21909823 I'm glad I didn't submit a work to this shit storm. They even wanted to interview me and asked for a short story

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 17:42:34 2023 No.21947061 >>21947051 It is still far and away the best and most successful /lit/ collaborative project in history. Don't fall for the propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 18:19:25 2023 No.21947216 >>21947051 Same. I was just about done with my non fiction anthology submission before the doxing shit happened. Dodged a bullet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 18:28:44 2023 No.21947264 >>21947037 >this

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 18:37:11 2023 No.21947311

>>21947061
What propaganda? &amp has been failing since it stopped releasing monthly issues at the end of 2021. The original editor is so troubled that he never follows through and vanishes for months at a time, and now he’s apparently handed over the reins to someone equally unrealiable, considering that the best of lost all momentum months ago and is nearly forgotten. The threads stagnated because he never came up with any clear schedule and took what was originally a group effort private. He got pissy when anyone asked for updates or criticized the way he was handling things and at the end doubled down and tried to shut down the graphic design talk which was the only thing drawing interest to the threads by that point. Now even that draw seems to be gone, considering that the main graphic design/critique anon claims to have been blacklisted because of whatever issues he has with her even though working on &amp was always open to anyone with the right skillset before. He’s alienating other contributors and tainting &amp with his personal problems like a fag instead of working them out privately for the sake of the magazine. And he’s apparently involved in the Unreal doxxing and trolling drama to boot. We all know that this site is full of schizo autists who hold grudges, so a transparent name change isn’t going to fix this mess or do anything to quell the backlash.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:02:19 2023 No.21947424

>>21947311
>what propaganda
the "stupid drama is more relevant than the work that's been produced so far" propaganda
> The original editor is so troubled that he never follows through and vanishes for months at a time
as opposed to past organizers making one or two shitty things then abandoning ship? the guy made how many issues in rapid succession?
>now he’s apparently handed over the reins to someone equally unrealiable, considering that the best of lost all momentum months ago and is nearly forgotten. The threads stagnated because he never came up with any clear schedule and took what was originally a group effort private. He got pissy when anyone asked for updates or criticized the way he was handling things and at the end doubled down and tried to shut down the graphic design talk which was the only thing drawing interest to the threads by that point. Now even that draw seems to be gone, considering that the main graphic design/critique anon claims to have been blacklisted because of whatever issues he has with her even though working on &amp was always open to anyone with the right skillset before. He’s alienating other contributors and tainting &amp with his personal problems like a fag instead of working them out privately for the sake of the magazine. And he’s apparently involved in the Unreal doxxing and trolling drama to boot. We all know that this site is full of schizo autists who hold grudges, so a transparent name change isn’t going to fix this mess or do anything to quell the backlash.
you are taking this thing way too seriously. Name a single other /lit/ project that turned out better and more productive than this one.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:18:56 2023 No.21947498

>>21947424
&amp’s success in the early glory days is irrelevant to the issue at hand. The original editor did good and consistent work for a while, but his chaotic life has gotten in the way and &amp has been in decline since then. When he’s back in jail and has handed over the reins to this new guy, the future doesn’t look good. The stupid drama doesn’t diminish &amps previous succcess, but it’s very relevant to &amp’s future. With the best-of editor at the helm I doubt that &amp’s productivity will continue. This shit has already caused Unreal to close their server and cancel upcoming projects, multiple contributors have walked out, and people are posting about not wanting to submit work to them anymore. I don’t want to see the same thing happen to &amp.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:21:47 2023 No.21947508 >>21947498 I repeat: >It is still far and away the best and most successful /lit/ collaborative project in history.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:23:36 2023 No.21947525 >>21944577 thom-gunn-anon? is this you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:26:20 2023 No.21947545 >>21947508 Sure, when &amp was consistent it was great, so I’ll agree with you there. But you’re missing my point. The current drama likely means that &amp’s days of success are over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:27:27 2023 No.21947554 >>21947498 Unreal is doing just fine. There’s only one cancelled project and that’s unrelated to the drama which was a mountain made out of a molehill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:29:46 2023 No.21947564 >>21947498 >With the best-of editor at the helm I doubt that &amp’s productivity will continue. Wasn't the best-of guy one of the two people that Unreal doxed and fucked with IRL?

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:29:57 2023 No.21947566

>>21947545
Again, nothing to do with the assertion I made. I didn't say, "&amp will be good forever" I said it is still far and away the best and most successful /lit/ collaborative project in history. You have not been able to rebut that statement at all, which tells me that you're either interested in trashing the project generally for surreptitious reasons, or you don't have any reading comprehension.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:46:13 2023 No.21947645

>>21947566
The one lacking reading comprehension is you. You responded to someone calling &amp a shit storm by telling him not to fall for the propaganda, seemingly denying that the current drama is an actual problem for &amp’s future. Your point that &amp is the most successful /lit/ project to date has nothing to do with what that anon was saying, which is that the shit going on right now makes him wary of &amp in general and he doesn’t want to be associated with it. I don’t want to trash the project. I want it to stay successful and that’s why I’m concerned.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 19:57:11 2023 No.21947687

>>21947645
the propaganda being that this drama is more relevant than writing and publishing. Yes. &amp has a great track record and was more productive and successful than any other project (by far) that this board has produced, so it's bad advice to say, "Abandon the project" because of some internal strife.
If you want to protect your babies, get an agent and go the traditional route.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 20:12:02 2023 No.21947759
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>best-of
i only wanted a neat package where all my favorite &amp pieces and the revised and much improved versions of my stuff could coexist and i could show it to my mom and my english teachers and if there was a physical copy i would cherish it and it would be the most consistent thing to come out of /lit/ and &amp

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 21:38:59 2023 No.21948182 >>21947554 >Unreal is doing just fine The main host who edited Tales of the Unreal left, lol. Doesn’t sound like a mole hill to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 21:41:34 2023 No.21948193 >>21948182 the only person who would know that and care is the one anon trying to besmirch unreal and trash the best-of edition. So, hi I guess. how you been since the last thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 21:53:37 2023 No.21948258 >>21948182 It wasn’t just him. Krake told all the unreal discord trannies to fuck off after the doxing. Unreal is gasping for air right now as the one guy left attempt to keep the project afloat.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:06:53 2023 No.21948309

>>21948193
I’m not trying to besmirch Unreal, just pointing out that the drama has caused tons of problems for the press and people aren’t over it. I was in the Unreal discord until a bunch of people got fed up of the drama and left and then I left too after it was announced that the server was under new management. That all played out publicly, so anyone who was around for it would know. The best-of edition started out as a good idea but quickly failed due to being mismanaged, and pointing that out doesn’t mean that I’m trying to trash anything. I don’t want this guy to take over &amp and run it into the ground by mismanaging it in the same way as the best-of and letting his personal problems with other contributors get in the way of the magazine’s future.

/unreal/ press !!KJI2/HgsJdT Sun Apr 23 22:20:30 2023 No.21948354

>>21948182
Thankfully we have two other editors on standby, and the guy who helped us get that cover art plus all the illustrations is still on the team. We've got high hopes for Tales volume 2 and anticipate a call for submissions later this summer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:22:15 2023 No.21948363 File: 317 KB, 625x1000, tsk-amazon-1000-625.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I send Ryan a copy of my book? I'm sure he'll like it since it is written about the neighbourhood he lives in!

>>	/unreal/ press !!KJI2/HgsJdT Sun Apr 23 22:23:26 2023 No.21948369 >>21948363 We're still hoping to grab an interview with you, Jason. Anytime you like

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:28:49 2023 No.21948381

>>21948369
I'm definitely interested as I have a lot to say, just need to finish building my adult site so I have some extra money this summer to actually buy ads for my books... been working on it for like 12+ hours a day for a month. Will be in touch soon!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:30:40 2023 No.21948387 >>21948381 What’s it like being a pornstar?

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:40:05 2023 No.21948404

>>21948387
I'm not a pornstar, although I filmed a pornsite in Costa Rica 15+ years ago. I could've been a pornstar but I just have never had the desire to get my erect cock out in front of a group of guys just to fuck some paid chick.

I actually don't even like strippers or pornstars, I'm more into women without tattoos, who dress modestly and are at least a bit redpilled and, of course, unvaxxed.

I actually really enjoyed doing caregiving for disabled seniors, that was my favourite job. Better than selling porn. Literally getting paid a $1000 to just hang out with some old people and make them smile. So wholesome.

Much more wholesome than looking into the butthole of some anally-gaped pornstar just so you can take a screenshot and add it to a website.

I wonder if Ryan agrees that Vancouver has been in such an incredible nose-dive over the last 10 years. Right around 2015 when I moved out of Gastown in Vancouver, like 8 people I knew died that year. Dagger Mike, my old coke dealer, died from an overdose a couple days before I was supposed to pick up an 8ball! I pretty much quit right after that. I hope Ryan can get off those poisoned drugs and stick to weed and booze, if anything, as I'm 100% convinced the drugs are poisoned on purpose to kill off society's misfits so Canada can be an even more pozzed, conformist hellscape than it already is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:44:52 2023 No.21948415 Damn, Nesmer sounds like a grown-up man. Don't know why I pegged him as a twink

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:46:35 2023 No.21948423 >>21948415 his online persona somehow has twink energy despite him being a grown ass man with a family

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:52:09 2023 No.21948443

I've been around this board for years and due to my own apathy I've never checked out &amp or lit quarterly and all I've read of Unreal is the Tales of the Unreal book with the green cloaked being on the cover so I'm not very familiar with any of these publications (if that's the correct term. Presses? Magazines? Idk) With that being said I've been catching up on all of them lately (drama and scandals included) and Im whole heartedly rooting for them to survive, and then to thrive and grow. I thought initially that having only one lit based publication would be best for everyone involved if the cooperation and ability to make that a reality was possible. Now it's clear to me that the different ones are doing distinctly different things from one another and they should all exist concurrently. I just worry that the non-writing related shit surrounding &amp and unreal could result in.one or both of them.splintering off into more groups and next thing we know we have 8 different lit publications with everyone choosing sides and having the writers spread out thinner amongst more groups instead of having at least a little unity with all the best writers we have to offer contributing to and being presented by only a couple publications/presses with different aims. Since I know where I'm posting I don't want to sound like a retard by saying we need to stick together but I think it would help all of us most if we did that. Obviously we can't control the actions of the editors and people in control of these projects but I just really hope everything works out for &amp and Unreal and that the majority of us that are interested in what they're doing can support them and help them be the best that they're able to. I'm very excited about the future of the things we have but the (admittedly excessive at times) pessimist in me feels like it may be anxiously awaiting the landfall of a sinking ship. I don't even know why I care but I feel invested at this point and I'm hoping for the best for all involved.

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 22:58:40 2023 No.21948473

>>21948443
It will take a miracle for any of our writing to make it out of this board.

Writing is just not cool. Writing is about the least cool activity in the world and there is nobody who cares less about what you write than the average person.

Like seriously, if you have aspirations to get rich from writing, you'd have more luck drawing crude anime porn for gay furries than writing. Literally nobody gives a fuck about writing and writers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 23 23:16:56 2023 No.21948537 >>21947525 No idea who Thom is but it seems like >>21944577 is the anon from the best of threads who used to go by Atlas. Guess they had a falling out

Anonymous Sun Apr 23 23:37:00 2023 No.21948614

>>21948473
>It will take a miracle for any of our writing to make it out of this board.
It's been done by &amp and unreal. Granted the readership of those is probably entirely people from this board, but that could change in the future.
>there is nobody who cares less about what you write than the average person.
Sure, but maybe there's writers who aren't writing with the intention of reaching every average person. There are still readers out there. It's not like people who idk, breed hamsters are all going to quit when they realize that no average person gives a shit about hamster breeding. Not everything is done with the intention of pleasing or even reaching every average Joe.
>if you have aspirations to get rich from writing
I personally dont, and never have. Id still write (poorly, lol) even if I had to pay a monthly fee to be able to do so. I don't think the people putting these projects together are doing it with the intention of getting rich either, but I have no evidence to back that. I think you're overestimating the amount of people who are writing to get rich. Sure they're out there, but I think most of us are more realistic than that and have different intentions and motivations to write than getting rich.
>Literally nobody gives a fuck about writing and writers.
I'm not convinced that this is true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 00:05:57 2023 No.21948733 >>21948614 99% of the people who read &amp and Unreal content are from this board. How have they made it out?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 00:19:56 2023 No.21948773 >>21948614 We are literally society's outcasts. Nobody will ever talk about us other than us, and crabs that hate us for even daring to try and self-express, haha.

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 00:27:03 2023 No.21948789

>>21948733
Re-read what you're responding to. I know the readers of &amp and unreal are from this board (I said that in my post, in fact) but that could change in the future meaning that it gains a wider readership that includes people from outside lit. Is it likely? Probably not, but who knows? If &amp and unreal continue on without ever growing beyond being something made for us by us, I'd be happy with that too.

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 01:05:57 2023 No.21948905

>>21948789
any 4chan group project is doomed to fail because this site is a watering hole for antisocial weirdos who can’t work together longterm bc theyre incapable of acting normal and will inevitably start shitfights and sabotage each other. the unreal hosts fucked over the press themselves by doxxing and harassing their own contributors and i have proof

>>21948182
he left because he and his homie were about to be exposed for doxxing. he caused the drama, he’s not a victim here

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 01:31:07 2023 No.21948994

>>21948905
I don’t even know who did what, and now I don’t care. I was starting to believe this drama stuff. But the more I think about it, you seem like you’re just out for blood. I don’t even know whose or why. Post the proof or quit whining buddy. People like you irk me.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 01:44:48 2023 No.21949027 What exactly is doxxing in this situation? I thought most of the contributors used their real names. Is it revealing the real name of writers that use a pseudonym?

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 01:55:22 2023 No.21949066

>>21949027
the one dude had already used his first name in &amp and on discord but they posted pics of him in multiple threads then tripfagged using his full name to do a bunch of retarded trolling. the second dude went by a pseudonym but after he called them out for harassing the first guy they pulled his full name from a submission email he’d sent and posted it + pics of his workplace + info about his parents

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:00:15 2023 No.21949085 >>21949004 I’m not seeing the proof. This is just a bunch of discord trannies

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:03:00 2023 No.21949094

>>21949085
all the people referenced are unreal members. rhyme was the main editor of tales of the unreal. toottoot was an assistant editor. melville was a server member. how is this not proof? all the unreal people are discord trannies, what more proof do you need

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:07:17 2023 No.21949101 >>21949085 id link the archives of threads where they doxxed people but i dont wanna spread that shit even further

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:10:50 2023 No.21949107
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>>21949094
Its true. I am a previous unreal contributor and instead of paying me for my story (like they promised) they actually swatted my house. When the cop groped my HRT breast he shouted "this is a tranny!" and he sexually abused me. But when he looked closer to my face he realized that I'm not a tranny, I am actually the world famous author F Gardner. Ever since I am the laughinstock of my neighborhood and they all know I contributed to a mid online magazine willingly. The unreal menace must stop!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:10:52 2023 No.21949108 >>21949094 Did they get someone swatted or something? Did someone prank someone’s house? I’m not getting it. I keep hearing dox, but what actually happened?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:16:00 2023 No.21949121 >>21949108 If I'm reading the logs right it sounds like they called up his workplace in the hopes of fucking with his job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:19:02 2023 No.21949126 >>21949121 Yeah I see that. Who’s the South American? And did the guy lose his job over this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:33:01 2023 No.21949155 So can I still submit to &amp or what?? I've been saving my schizo stories for it...

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:33:42 2023 No.21949158

>>21949126
the south american is the assistant editor mentioned above. dunno if he lost his job but its possible. the shit he wrote about in the unreal server was some type of weird horse sex shit that could def ruin his rep if his irl friends and coworkers found out he’d written it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:38:33 2023 No.21949173 >>21949155 >>21944577 Seconding this. Is there any contact information for this Jet character? I'm confused what the beef was but willing to hear anyone out

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 02:44:30 2023 No.21949188

>>21949173
lol, if the jet guy really did some bad shit do you actually think he’s just gonna own up to it if you ask him? ofc he’ll say whatever makes him look good. impossible to find out what really happened but dragging his personal drama into &amp is enough of a bad sign on its own

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 03:06:12 2023 No.21949243 How does it even happen that 1 or 2 anons decide to make an online magazine and this amount of faggot drama is able to generate from it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 03:09:45 2023 No.21949255 File: 499 KB, 496x216, F00D7654-696B-432B-AABE-1115BC0E6AE2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21949243

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 03:11:38 2023 No.21949264 >>21949243 1 or 2 anons succeed, 3 or 4 anons get jealous

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 03:23:43 2023 No.21949291

>>21949264
This is behind most drama in my experience. Also a lot of people just have shit work ethic and rather than actually write something or say produce a single magazine/anthology/podcast on their own they will leach onto a successful start-up and just hang around the threads/discord of that group all day while giving themself titles and talking about 'their project'

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 03:27:14 2023 No.21949302 >>21949291 basically >>/lit/thread/21870704#p21873214

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 03:40:25 2023 No.21949339 >>21949302 Not even trying to bully that guy but yes.

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 04:12:22 2023 No.21949392

>>21949291
Writing is the easiest part of being a writer.

Getting anyone to read and review your shit is the most difficult part. Someone gave me a 5-star review on Amazon, but didn't leave a review. I just want my first fucking review, and it is the hardest shit. I could get laid much easier than getting one fucking person to read my shit. Writing is, by FAR, the easiest part of being a writer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 04:26:39 2023 No.21949409 >>21949392 >someone gave me a 5-star review on Amazon I bet it was your mom, kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 04:34:48 2023 No.21949421 >>21949173 The editor said he has delegate access so you can email lamp.lit.magazine@gmail.com to talk to him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 05:42:51 2023 No.21949557 >>21949409 My mother killed herself when I was 19

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 05:43:29 2023 No.21949559 >>21946932 lol, so there was something going on between bestoffag and his tranny sidekick? i thought this shit couldn’t get any gayer but i was wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 05:55:21 2023 No.21949578 >>21949557 RIP anon’s mom, she’ll live forever in the hearts of those who knew and loved her

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 06:36:16 2023 No.21949661 >>21943582 Nesmernigger checking in

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 06:42:45 2023 No.21949674

>>21945497
Editorfsg again. I’m gonna take care of 026 ca. June/July. I have very little grasp on the drama kek so I’m laughing along. &amp has love for Frank because he’s not just any fag, he’s our fag. And I have love for any nig that wants to play in the sandbox. Fuck you fsggots that want to gatekeep writing. If dudes got exed from Unreal then fuckem. &amp is officially teamed up with Unreal for life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 06:48:54 2023 No.21949684 >>21947498 I’m still piloting Print Issues™. No control over that has been relinquished. Yeah I’m a faggot drug user but please. This isn’t my job. Nahm sayn? Yall get what yall get

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 06:50:08 2023 No.21949685 >>21949684 The hard copies are very high quality and I cherish the few that I bought.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 07:42:10 2023 No.21949752 >>21949557 >unkills herself just to give her son a good review Capital method

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 07:57:28 2023 No.21949769 >>21949108 Unreal tried to have Lucas Bineville assassinated. Very overblown!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 10:43:35 2023 No.21950024 >>21949769 I'm thinking based

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 11:12:21 2023 No.21950069 >>21949674 Okay I can just submit to the email? A print issue sounds great. Also don't take drugs you miserable fuck I don't judge you for it but it's not good to kill yourself. I listened to you on the podcast and you sound like a good guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 12:01:16 2023 No.21950179 >>21948537 Yes. I didn't want to name names, but it seems to be Atlas. Hey, Atlas

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 12:06:38 2023 No.21950195
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>>21948363
Email me bro. Admin@LampByLit
Going over the whole thread now. Fucking wild the amount of samefagging and impersonating goes on. I’m pretty sure there’s one fag ruining everything. And there’s only like four of us ITT IRL. And I know Oggy is rangeb& so that leaves three.
>>21949107
(You)>>21949158
>>21949126
>>21948404
Buddy. Thank you. I’ve lost five homies now. Not as hard as 8 and not all of them brothers but it’s a curse for sure. Vancouver is a cursed land my dude. I mean that. Zulu said he wants to roadtrip this summer. I’m saving up for this. If anyone can make it happen it’s him. And I’m moving out of the city to my nazi compound in the gulf islands after my court. Jk sorta. Need to go back to the sea. Absolutely devastating the mess I’m in. Love you my Niagara.
>>21948473
Based. I swear god zulu wrote this. Do you see how clairvoyant I am?!
>>21949108
>>21949121
>>21949126
Samefag. Sounds like Gardner. Remember I’m clairvoyant.
>>21949155
I’m officially opening submissions for 016 right now. HMU. And if I don’t see movement on Greatest Hits soon I’ll move on that too. The dudes in the inbox would never fuck with it. I have a drive backup for all emails and I can tell who does what. They will behave themselves. They’re either in the lab or procrastinating, very normal editor behaviour.
>>21949243
Because Reddit-tier amounts of grooming and faggotry inevitably generate on Discord. Put a name above anybody’s comment, and watch the fun disappear.
>>21949557
Pics or it didn’t happen
>>21949769
Man I’m actually reading his book. It’s not good but it’s huge. Says something doesn’t it.
>>21950069
Okay deal. One step at a time. Submit to &amp now. Issue Sixteen shall hereby commence. I’ll put a thread up after this epic/gay thread dies. I want to hold space for Unreal.
>>21909823
https://youtu.be/989-7xsRLR4

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 12:12:21 2023 No.21950216 >>21949302 This comment is so based it gets it own reply.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 16:15:56 2023 No.21950854 >>21949674 who’s trying to gatekeep writing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 16:35:01 2023 No.21950917 >>21950854 Trannies obviously

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 17:18:05 2023 No.21951046

>>21909823
Reminder that these guys are loons. They sent an associate of theirs to my hometown, harassed my mother, asked questions about me. Luckily I wasn't there. Whole neighborhood was in a ruckus. All just because I wouldn't publish with them. Fuck Unreal Press.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 17:27:17 2023 No.21951074 >>21951046 then everybody clapped

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 17:30:44 2023 No.21951088 >>21951046 They threatened Spencer Weedman’s family, they’re dangerous

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 17:48:56 2023 No.21951159 Oh yeah? You know what they did to me? Right after I submitted a story they somehow found out where I worked and sent a male stripper to my workplace. But jokes on them, everyone enjoyed it, and hey, free lap dance! Dude had a huge schlong too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:11:52 2023 No.21951231 >>21946330 >>21946932 wait so best of anon and graphic design anon know eachother irl? is there a source on that or is it some fag just spreading false shit? this shit just gets gayer and gayer

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:38:24 2023 No.21951294 >>21951159 Unrealcucks don’t have enough funds to pay for a male stripper, so it was probably one of their associates doing it on a volunteer basis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 18:52:55 2023 No.21951342 >>21951159 >>21951294 >dude had a huge schlong That rules out anyone involved in Unreal

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 19:46:40 2023 No.21951585 >>21951088 Who the fuck is Spencer Weedman. It's probably you cause no one knows who that is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 19:51:06 2023 No.21951605 >>21951585 The dude who wrote Egregore, one of the more successful /lit/ books

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 20:17:52 2023 No.21951702 File: 383 KB, 749x923, 1715020E-6781-4490-AC5E-00A17CB0A002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21951585 this guy

>>	tm Mon Apr 24 20:37:41 2023 No.21951773 Lots of bullshit here, but Lampguy - if this is you - best wishes. You're the real deal.

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 20:52:30 2023 No.21951820

Don't expect this post to stay up long. Unreal is in my house right now. I declined to publish with them a week ago and today they sliced circles from the glass of my windows and killed my wife, children, and dog with a series of silenced gunshots before they let themselves inside, pistols drawn and ready. I am hiding in a closet and I can smell smoke. The only reason I could have survived is because it's Monday and they expected me to be at work. That's all I can think about right now as my entire world comes to an end: they were just trying to send a warning. I called 911 and told them what was happening and the dispatcher told me to come out of the closet and stop wasting people's time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:06:49 2023 No.21951852 File: 42 KB, 327x327, evil_rat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21951702 same energy

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:08:55 2023 No.21951861 >>21951820 >I called 911 Ari’s back at it again, LARPing as usual.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:12:10 2023 No.21951870 File: 254 KB, 676x670, 1679021142200604.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21951861 What will we ever do with the boy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:16:05 2023 No.21951876 Holy cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:19:56 2023 No.21951881 >>21951876 which part

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:21:14 2023 No.21951885 Why are Unreal people like this? I thought this was supposed to be a fun collaborative project?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:26:43 2023 No.21951898 >>21951885 There's two sides to every story. Some of us don't know what to make of all this yet. There is a lot of accusations flying around though.for sure.

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:38:41 2023 No.21951938

>>21950195
Do you have my American Psycho essay submission? Emailed it a while ago. I didn't put my pen name in the doc but you can use the name I used for "Face of Carthage." Also don't forget: repeating digits, Silian Rail font and Bone color background (like Patrick's card of course).
Do you want anything else from me for 016 like a short story? Or should I wait until 017?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:40:52 2023 No.21951946 File: 805 KB, 828x1524, CB9F4262-0715-4EC5-829A-5E36F977B998.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21950179 I doubt that she’ll be back. Using the same username for her email and her Twitter was a big mistake.

Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:43:13 2023 No.21951953
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Guy guys guys, I just want you to know that I'm so heckin CONCERNED right now with the way things are going with these writing groups. Yea they're productive but do they realize how CONCERNED I am? I just hope everyone is as CONCERNED as I am about REPUTATION and WHAT OTHERS THINK, because I think all /lit/ adjacent groups need to make a joint press conference live on YOUTUBE.COM AND TWITTER.COM to just address just how dang CONCERNING some things are that I- I mean totally random and uncoordinated people are spamming in every thread about months old very very SERIOUS e-drama.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:44:57 2023 No.21951959 >>21951953 stop concern trolling

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:49:04 2023 No.21951973 >>21951953 It IS CONCERNING. I’m also CONCERED and I think I’m going to post my CONCERN everywhere I possibly can, even on REDDIT, because SUBSTANTIATED or not, it’s a BIG cause for CONCERN CONCERNING THE CONCERNED!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:57:47 2023 No.21952003 File: 17 KB, 163x68, Screen_Shot_2023-03-16_at_10.30.52_PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CONCERNINGLY CONCERNED about these things that I'm CONCERNED about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 21:57:50 2023 No.21952005 Yeah this thread's dead. Going to email Ryan tonight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:04:58 2023 No.21952019 So this is gonna be every &amp thread now? An Unreal circlejerk until they get annoyed and start posting people's faces? I think I'm good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:06:27 2023 No.21952026 File: 4 KB, 197x54, 8C45CD4E-D8CB-410B-8C73-1147F12B4DC8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21952003 Yes you are RIGHT, everything is VERY CONCERNING and everyone should be CONCERNED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:09:51 2023 No.21952036 >>21952019 >unreal circlejerk It’s unironically some bitch fucking with a boy she likes. Nothing to do with unreal, &amp, or /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:11:33 2023 No.21952043 >>21952036 proof?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:12:56 2023 No.21952048 File: 330 KB, 2000x1324, CONCERN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21952026 Oh so VERY CONCERNING! But let us not worry! Tis just a little CONCERNING! Oh me, oh my!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:16:29 2023 No.21952057 >>21952043 You see the faces being posted? One is the guy, the other is the girl trying to fuck with him. Don’t believe me if you don’t want, but the giveaway should be the doxxing of some girl considering there are literally no women on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:18:52 2023 No.21952061 File: 123 KB, 1200x650, DNK-cincinnati-apartment-building-architects1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Concerning ahhhhhhhhh please pay attention to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:21:00 2023 No.21952066 >>21952057 They shd just get it on allready

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:22:01 2023 No.21952068 >>21952057 probably unrealcucks posting a random girls face or dragging up her info from sm in one of there secret doxxing dm groups

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:22:28 2023 No.21952070 Another great showing from Unreal. Surely this newest dox will save 4chan's literature scene.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:29:14 2023 No.21952085 >>21952070 Haven’t all of these people been doxxed before?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:31:37 2023 No.21952087 >>21952085 Am I supposed to follow your discord tranny drama close enough to know that off hand?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:34:10 2023 No.21952094 >>21952005 Who the fuck is Ryan? Your husband?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:56:19 2023 No.21952151 File: 954 KB, 224x336, 1665026106782256.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21952094 The editor being interviewed in the OP video. Did you even watch it or are you just here to shitpost?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 22:57:56 2023 No.21952153 >>21952151 Unreal Press podcast episodes hit different when they’re on mute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:04:02 2023 No.21952166 File: 315 KB, 220x174, AC39768E-0BF1-4CCC-A2C3-733F485CAA2A.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] EDITOR-SAMAAA! Come back and save us from the Unreal brotherhood’s coordinated doxxing efforts!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:20:15 2023 No.21952199 >>21951820 KEK

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:22:43 2023 No.21952210 >>21952043 fuck you. Blow a proctologist and jump in a volcano.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:23:45 2023 No.21952216 >>21952070 unironically yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:27:11 2023 No.21952228 >>21909823 >365 views How small is this garbage heap?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:29:11 2023 No.21952233 >>21952228 This is the 4th thread they've made advertising this one video. It's actually embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:33:04 2023 No.21952247 >>21952210 no fuck you man. i’m just asking for proof that unreal isn’t behind this shit, which it seems like they are

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:47:03 2023 No.21952287 >>21952216 How exactly will it do that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:51:48 2023 No.21952310 >>21952287 Every enemy of Unreal is an enemy of /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:51:51 2023 No.21952311 I like Zulu Alitspas writing. Is he a villain in any of this or can I continue to root for him?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 24 23:53:27 2023 No.21952318 >>21952310 Who is an enemy of Unreal? The &amp best of guy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:02:56 2023 No.21952346 >>21952311 t. Zulu

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:09:51 2023 No.21952367

>>21952311
Fuck off Zack Alan Smith, stop trying to shill. Your writing is garbage and you’re a 30’s NEET living with his dad who somehow thinks he’s going to be an award winning author and filmmaker. You have a room temperature IQ and you’ll never make it in this business.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:19:02 2023 No.21952396 >>21952048 TRANderSEN is doxxing himself and trying to frame Rhyme for it. Believe nothing that he says.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:27:35 2023 No.21952438 I can't believe all of these sociopathic haters would dox themselves to spite Unreal. Does their evil know no limits? We should all watch this OP video again to show support for Unreal in these trying times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:36:44 2023 No.21952476 >>21952438 why would they doxx themselves? unreal is behind this 100%

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:39:23 2023 No.21952484 >>21952476 That was sarcasm, dipshit.

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:39:43 2023 No.21952486

>>21952476
Bro, come on. It's obvious. multiple unrelated people posted their home address, workplace and full names because Unreal was growing too fast. They're haters. It's what they do. Unreal had to be stopped. How would the haters feel if Unreal reached 400 subs after 18 months of consistent uploads?

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:47:46 2023 No.21952509

>>21952367
Jesus Christ. Unreal is never going to live down the doxing shit. You guys can cope and say you’re just ignoring the past as if that helps your public perception. The bottom line is your reputation is forever tarnished. Baffling you thought it was a good idea at that time. Baffling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:57:16 2023 No.21952538 >>21952509 The past? They’re still actively doxxing people in this thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 00:57:18 2023 No.21952539 >>21952509 Seethe more

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:01:43 2023 No.21952556 How are we going to bring Unreal down /lit/? It’s time we get rid of them off the board!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:02:56 2023 No.21952561 >>21952556 They're doing a good job killing themselves. How many are even left?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:04:59 2023 No.21952567 >>21952561 No. They’re obviously doxing everyone. They should be banned from /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:12:52 2023 No.21952588 >>21952509 Unreal Press is a front for elaborate gay ops

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:13:57 2023 No.21952591 >>21952153 KEK

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:17:02 2023 No.21952599 https://youtu.be/3Q4Pz-nMbCI

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:20:54 2023 No.21952614 >>21952599 you look like you're going to cry

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:21:01 2023 No.21952615 >>21952599 Fuck off Gardner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:35:51 2023 No.21952672 >>21952599 you’d cry too if you were a pathetic neet living with his mom and dad who had nothing better to do than shill your ESL-tier slop everywhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:36:23 2023 No.21952674 File: 98 KB, 750x310, E736172B-B5C0-48BC-9596-A13271F11F8A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21952599 >Gardner can’t even come up with his own ideas OH NONONONONONONOOO

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:43:58 2023 No.21952697 >>21952674 Correction: It’s a quote from Zachary Alan Smith.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 01:53:26 2023 No.21952728 >>21952599 Does this dude have a job? He isn't making it off book sales but I cant really imagine what type of work he would do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:04:49 2023 No.21952766 >>21952599 Based

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:08:49 2023 No.21952779

>>21952599
The /lit/ renaissance refers to a short-lived surge in interest regarding /lit/ fiction and /wg/ authors which began with the publication of the first BSR rankings (later refined to the /lit/ Top Ten) on January 7th, 2023, peaked with the return of &amp editor K.R. Hartley on March 16th, 2023, and ended with the infamous "Message in a Bottle" scandal on April 5th, 2023, wherein K.R. Hartley disappeared under conditions of duress and several members of the Unreal staff doxxed other contributors and engaged in below-the-belt personal attacks, before receiving a backlash that forced their indefinite withdrawal from public life. Prominent figures include Ogden Nesmer, K.R. Hartley, John “Rhyme” Davis, Zachary “Zulu” Alan Smith, Lewis Woolston, and all Unreal contributors. However, this time period was marked by an increasing interest in archiving obscure/forgotten /lit/ authors, and the total count was finally tabulated at 32 authors who have shilled or gained notoriety on /lit/. F. Gardner later attempted to take credit for and capitalize on this event, despite having had absolutely nothing to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:11:37 2023 No.21952791 >>21952779 Hi AnderSEN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:12:53 2023 No.21952796 >>21952728 He has a thriving career as a male stripper and prostitute, and can often be seen plying his trade on the sidewalks of Chicago’s sleaziest neighbourhoods, clad in fishnet stockings, heels, and a pleather miniskirt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:14:54 2023 No.21952803 >>21952791 *TRANderSEN

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:20:16 2023 No.21952819 >>21952791 Hi! I’m glad to be back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:22:24 2023 No.21952822 >>21952779 Wassup A-A-Ron?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:25:03 2023 No.21952833 >>21952822 Nothing much, just writing equine enthusiast smut. The usual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:28:46 2023 No.21952847 File: 74 KB, 593x316, A-A-Ron.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AWWWWW wittle Aaron is upset. He doesn't like it guys! Unreal made his feefees hurt!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:31:18 2023 No.21952857 File: 8 KB, 320x209, 1650216811310.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21952779 You guys would have an awesome time reading The Shitkickers instead of fighting with each other

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:31:25 2023 No.21952858 >>21952847 Back for one day? About the time this thread started to go to shit. Huh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:32:32 2023 No.21952862 >>21952858 Agreed! We should do something about it!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:34:02 2023 No.21952868 >>21952862 Yes, it’s time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:35:39 2023 No.21952874 >>21952026 classic example of the thousand-cock-stare

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:37:15 2023 No.21952878 >>21952868 What do you suggest?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:45:50 2023 No.21952906 >>21952878 >>21952779 This

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:47:12 2023 No.21952913 I meant >>21952857 Wrong post

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:48:45 2023 No.21952917 >>21952913 no one is going to read your stupid ass book with its tacky ass ugly ass retarded ass cover, nigga

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:50:44 2023 No.21952922 Why is F Gardner flexing about starting /lit/tok? &amp has had a TikTok since mid 2022

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:57:17 2023 No.21952936 >>21952057 your telling me she likes this dude with the creepy pedostache? bitch needs to get her head checked out

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 02:59:54 2023 No.21952949 Aaron bros??? Status report??? Don't tell me Unreal won...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:01:44 2023 No.21952954 >>21952949 Fuck off Aaron. We know you left the server after getting called out for posting your own doxx in a lame attempt to make it seem like someone else actually cares enough to doxx your irrelevant ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:02:15 2023 No.21952956 File: 866 KB, 2573x4096, __clownpiece_touhou_drawn_by_zuwatake__134f607be003df1fec81c210e72d51c8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CLOWNPIECE IS REAL!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:04:40 2023 No.21952960 >>21952954 True! And I, Aaron Andersen, apologize to Unreal and all of those who I have harmed with my actions. I am deeply sorry. I hope you will find it in your heart to forgive me, Aaron Andersen. - Aaron Andersen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:06:00 2023 No.21952963 >>21952960 What actions

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:14:34 2023 No.21952984 Oft-forgotten Unreal cohost Miles MacNaughton rues the day that he made this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:16:14 2023 No.21952992 >>21952984 Can he really be called a cohost if he's the only host left?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:16:51 2023 No.21952993 >>21952992 KEK

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:18:43 2023 No.21952997
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UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
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Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...
UNREAL!
Andersen...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:21:39 2023 No.21953007 File: 243 KB, 882x1059, 02EE52C4-A853-4734-94C2-D5452AC1D3DF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21952992 There’s still this fine lady of South African extraction!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:23:03 2023 No.21953013 Thank you Unreal. This will surely get us published.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:28:22 2023 No.21953029 >>21953007 That’s LA? The horseshoe moustache is worse than anything I could have ever imagined

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:29:27 2023 No.21953032 >>21953013 No problemo, good sir. The future looks bright!

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:36:28 2023 No.21953053
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"Pooh-pooh to the Unreal Bros!" snarled the Troon.
"I'll samefag another two hundred gay-ops posts by next noon!"

They're just booting up now! I know just what they'll do!
Their mouths will hang open a minute or two
Then the Unreal Bros will all cry boo-hoo!

That's the noise," grinned the Troon, "that I simply must hear!"
He paused, and booted up discord on his hundredth alt account of the year.

And he did hear a sound rising as his screen glowed.
It started in low, then it started to grow.

But this sound wasn't sad!
Why, this sound sounded glad!

Every bro in Unreal, both lazy and hardworking,
Was scheduling releases despite the Troons samefag posting!

He hadn't stopped Tales 2 from coming! It came!
Somehow or other, it came just the same!

And the Troon, with his manly feet overlarge in his high heels,
Sat puzzling and puzzling. "How could no one see the big deal?

I hit them with gaslighting! I leveraged stale old &amp clout!
I hit them with dox accusations, of both myself and their fellow louts!"

He puzzled and puzzled till his puzzler was sore.
Then the Troon thought of something he hadn't before.

Maybe a samefagging freak on the internet, he thought, is something they deplore.
And the Unreal projects, perhaps, means to them a little bit more!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:42:16 2023 No.21953072 >>21953053 With seconds remaining on the clock you've somehow made this thread even more embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:44:08 2023 No.21953079 why don't the jannies ever delete this shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:44:27 2023 No.21953081 >>21953053 who is the troon you speak of?? i need answers

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:45:34 2023 No.21953084 >>21953079 why didn’t your mom do us all a favor and delete her fetus before it developed into you?

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 03:56:28 2023 No.21953112

Once there was a mainstream liberal arts college which taught every lie you can imagine: round earth, real apes, and even an afterlife. One day the literature professor was giving a lecture on the /lit/ renaissance.

"The /lit/ renaissance refers to a short-lived surge in interest regarding," railed the professor shrilly, rasping and seething as he raked the blackboard with his wicked chalk.

One student bravely stood up and then raised his hand, seizing the attention of everyone in the room. "Excuse me, teacher," he said, "but I believe the father of the /lit/ renaissance was actually F. Gardner!"

They tried to silence him but he did not care if anyone wanted to hear what he had to say, and eventually people stopped responding to him. His voice was the loudest, until he got bored and left. That student's name? Jason Bryan. His grade? F.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:09:03 2023 No.21953131 Total discord tranny death.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:23:33 2023 No.21953158 How does a bunch of anons make a silly book cause so much drama?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:26:05 2023 No.21953163 >>21953053 Your poetry is shit, Slip.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:41:16 2023 No.21953198 >>21953158 learn to speak English retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:45:04 2023 No.21953205 >>21953158 Because their only achievement in life is that silly book. They take any little slight against it personally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 04:52:55 2023 No.21953218 >>21952036 He’s not a BOY, he’s a MAN. How dare you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 05:09:50 2023 No.21953247 File: 95 KB, 600x742, 0625D815-BC5C-4423-BB9D-A5FFC095FC58.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21953053 Unrealcucks can lick my big furry green balls, choke on my 8 inch green cock and swallow my green-tinted cum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 05:34:08 2023 No.21953297 >>21953247 are you... the grinch who stole the renaissance?

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 06:01:52 2023 No.21953354

>>21952318
You are retarded and didnt watch the video or read the thread. You (2-3 spammers potentially including Gardner) are an enemy of &amp and Unreal. I don't care if they're the only collaborative project left standing in this dung heap of a board: they're dragging you to goodliness and creative productivity whether you like it or not.

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 06:38:55 2023 No.21953418
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>literary board
>people must surely read a lot on here
>swaths of books out there in that >should< help enlighten the fellow man
>simple project about making a magazine results in all this shit you see here
What a travesty

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 07:50:06 2023 No.21953598

>>21952019
>I think I'm good
what does this mean. Who are you. Who cares. It's exactly the kind of bogus nonsense sentence made by someone hastily cranking out a dozen spam non sequitors a thread to discredit unreal and &amp magazine because their endeavours are mildly successful and this is meant to be a crab board for losers and virgins by golly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 10:58:50 2023 No.21953943 >>21909823 Can you niggerlicious twitter fags stop spamming your shitty podcast and get a job ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 11:55:41 2023 No.21954097 >>21952233 It's the first & only one you liar

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 12:04:45 2023 No.21954115

All this shit seems more to come from a hater of unreal than they/them(selves). Either way, this fuckery clings to them (not to &amp—but, like in the previous big thread, is grafted onto it, sadly); and that, that is just (getting real fucking) annoying. !!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 12:28:23 2023 No.21954192 Great thread unreallies. Shitting up /lit/ totally convinced me to watch your gay discord podcast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 12:52:15 2023 No.21954252 >84 unique posters Yeah, it's very clear there's one guy who hates you dw about it, maybe I'll actually buy that pulp fiction book you guys made

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 12:56:50 2023 No.21954264

>>21954115
It's people that think they can't write and want to drag down people that do. I hope anon feels better but I don't give a damn about anything that gets in the way of /lit/ creative effort. I don't even give a damn about the slander or misrepresentation, eventually the good stories will shine over the rest. We have to keep writing no matter what. I have even tried to help a few anons stop self-sabotaging their writing careers on /wg/ and &amp threads, anons who think any advice other than "give up" boils down to "just be yourself (and be rich)". Even editor thinks the drama is a joke but I believe his friends can help him get better.
Besides a lot of people I've seen here have full time careers, wife and kids and also trying to write. I know I worked my ass off to get where I am today and there's a lot more work to do. Lots of authors before and today are the same, it's normal to do so until you've published 5+ books. And sometimes I can't even post at work because crabschizos are getting IPs obliterated. Last thing writers need is this amateur kind of jealousy for people who are only beginning to imagine success.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 12:58:03 2023 No.21954267 >>21954252 >4 posts per IP is unnatural on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 13:01:37 2023 No.21954278 >>21954252 If it was 30 unique IPs you might have had a point, but not 80. Granted, you’d still have discredited that entire point with your pathetic shilling. Go get a real job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 13:03:04 2023 No.21954284 >>21954267 >>21954278 That and that you are seemingly monitoring this thread 24/7 Honestly I don't know anything about this "e drama" but I know that basically every 4chan project inevitably attracts people like you so I see right through it

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