The Secret Teachings of All Ages

[Anonymous No.21897866]

Thoughts on picrel, and suggestions for other books on comparative mythology & anthropology in general?

[Anonymous No.21897882]

>>21897866
>thoughts on picrel
If they're secret why does the author know them? Does everyone know about them now? Were they secret because they're not very important and they weren't divulged urgently, or are they secret because the author is confusing secrecy for having been ignored.

The Ignored Teachings of All Ages.

>Which age btw?
Uhh idk... All of em

[Anonymous No.21897887]

>>21897866
I like it. MPH also wrote Lectures on Ancient Philosophy as a companion piece to Secret Teachings. I'll pick it up when I have finished Secret Teachings.
There's also the Secret History of the World by Mark Booth, which I have heard is similar.

[Anonymous No.21897898]

i'm listenin to it on audio during my seshes and it's good material for getting stoned i'll tell ya hwat

[Anonymous No.21897909]

>>21897887
Nice. I plan on reading this afterwards too.

[Anonymous No.21897911]

I went to the Manly Pee Hall earlier too, but I just call it the gents' bathroom usually.

[Anonymous No.21897912]

>>21897911
Nice.

[Anonymous No.21897958]

>>21897911
You made me titter. I will give you that one.

[Anonymous No.21898204]

Somebody recommended this in another thread so I bought it. Hasn't arrived yet but it looks promising.
BT.w – does anyone have any deets on the Secret Masters? Occult and magical practices of Tibetan monks and Eastern shamans and such. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.21898289]

>Extremely fun, extremely interesting, but fundamentally unreliable. Manly wrote this book in his early twenties. He's obviously well read and very intelligent but this book is written with a pretty significant bias toward his own obvious Masonic leanings, and most of the lore he has absorbed due to this association is accepted by him and presented as unsubstantiated fact. I will admit it lends a certain kind of mystique to the yarns he spins. For instance, I would personally love to believe that some inheritor of the egyption mystery schools living today knows the secret location of the original 42 manuscripts authored by the authentic historical Hermes Trismegistus written on papyrus and saved from the vandals of Alexandria, as he asserts. But I don't and he definitely doesn't go out of his way to give any evidence to validate that wacky claim. So all and all impressive work that should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
Your rebuttal?

[Anonymous No.21898296]

>>21898289
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[Anonymous No.21898595]

[Anonymous No.21898627]

MPH is fundamentally a pseud and/or a liar. Anything put out recently in the field of western esoteric studies completely blows secret teaching away.

I guess it's a decent intro. Not really tho. Misinforming and disinforming. Probably sets you back in esoteric journey by reading in all honesty.


>>21898289
Kinder than I would be but still kek'd

[Anonymous No.21899035]

>>21898595
This was the antidote to MPH for me

[Anonymous No.21899055]

>>21897866
If you read this instead of Plato and Agrippa you should just kys yourself in all honesty

[Anonymous No.21899086]

>>21898289
Came here to post this. Most books on that 'Greenpilled' that always gets posted if you go down that rabbit hole, you will return to them later and realize they are scholarly interpretations of spiritual philosophical or religious practices or vis versa, anachronisms or New Thought rehashes of classical ideas, or flat wrong.

[Anonymous No.21899129]

>>21898627
>Anything put out recently in the field of western esoteric studies completely blows secret teaching away.
Anything?

[Anonymous No.21899295]

>>21899035
How do they contrast?

[Anonymous No.21900117]

>>21899295
Evola was (mostly) anti-Masonic

[Anonymous No.21900234]

>>21898289
>>21898627
>>21899086
SO WHAT DO I READ?

[Anonymous No.21900447]

>>21900234
You read The Secret Teachings of All Ages as well as listen to many hours of YouTube podcasts.
>>21898204 also this

[Anonymous No.21900467]

What's the value of reading Evola and hardcore esoteric stuff like that? I don't want to know how to do magic I just want details and history of its practice as well as ancient knowledge on shit like the Pyramids being much older than we think and Atlantis and cool shit like that. Apparently Enoch from the book of Genesis was really Hermes Trisgestimus, for example. Cool alternative history from the deep past, Conan the Barbarian, Graham Hancock sort of shit, but moreso thru a comparative mythology/anthropology kind of lens, which is exactly what Secret Teachings happens to be. It's awesome honestly.

[Anonymous No.21900492]

>>21899295
MPH and movements like theosophy are pretty much about syncretising all the world's religions.

The traditionalist frame is more like viewing the world's religions as aspects of one eternal universal truth, aka "Tradition", manifested in various forms in different times and places but ultimately embodying the same principles.
They also emphasise that chronological history is decline and we're living in the terminal stage of that decline (the Kali Yuga) where this timeless truth has been obscured to modern people by materialism, so it's unlikely that any of us can really partake in genuine "Tradition".

[Anonymous No.21900493]

>>21900234
I'd start with some Joseph Campbell if you're interested perennial 'mystical' thought. It's very babby's first time seeing past a symbol, but it'll also prime your for more complex ideas and his work makes for comfy reading.

[Anonymous No.21900506]

>>21900492
While syncretisms in world religions and spirituality is interesting, trying to pour them all into a pot and mix something new is cringe. I deeply regret reading RAW or Kybalion when what inspired those works is so much more salient and enlightening. Say, if you're interested in Jung stop listening to JPB talk about archetypes and go pick up Man & His Symbols. If you're interested in hermeticism why would you read Kybalion when the Emerald Tablets are right there?

[Anonymous No.21900523]

>>21900506
>the Emerald Tablets
thought that was meme shit

[Anonymous No.21900544]

>>21900523
It's meme shit insofar you're looking for anything other than foundational natural philosophy and mysticism. It's really like watching old serial adventures and Kurosawa films then realizing where Lucas got all his ideas from.

[Anonymous No.21900569]

>>21900544
I see, interesting

[Anonymous No.21900605]

>>21898595
The main thesis breaks down when you realize the Aryans depicted the sun as a female/goddess, but they depicted the daylight sky as a male god.

[Anonymous No.21900625]

>>21897866
This makes me rage at how Tiktok roasting “witches” have shit all over the Tarot

[Anonymous No.21900636]

>>21898289
>read a book by a pro-mason
>read a book by an anti-mason
>read more from both camps and neither
>use your discernment
do you need someone to hold your benis while you urinate?

[Anonymous No.21900639]

>>21900234
Harry Potter is an excellent introduction to matters occvlt.

[Anonymous No.21900808]

>>21900467
Personally if I want bad comparative religion mixed with pseudo-history I'd rather read Kenneth Grant

[Anonymous No.21902366]

>>21900506
>I deeply regret reading RAW or Kybalion
lmao so do I but I really didn't know where to start. I stumbled my way into this stuff.

[Anonymous No.21902603]

>>21900808
Give me some recs, man.

[Anonymous No.21902617]

>>21902603
Revolt Against the Modern World has already been posted itt and its exactly what you're asking for here >>21900467. You can add Evola's Mystery of the Grail for more.

[Anonymous No.21902953]

>>21902617
Another example of bad comparative religion mixed with pseudo-history just like Crowley and Grant and RAW and Kybalion as noted here. There's been plenty of superior recommendations. Do your research and due diligence because ain't no one got time to hold yr hand

[Anonymous No.21903042]

>>21897866
Hall was a good person and one day the criminals who covered up the existence of magic will get what they fucking deserve

[Anonymous No.21903828]

>>21897882
here's a you for you
they're secret in the sense of a monkey stumbling upon a dropped working cellphone in a jungle. is the found cellphone a secret in the monkey's hands?

[Anonymous No.21903855]

>>21903042
He's one of the criminals. A dusinfo agent teaching falsehoods.

[Anonymous No.21904843]

Wasn't MPH a luciferian?

[Anonymous No.21904853]

>>21898289
This is a retarded take because he wasn't in any secret societies at that time. He didn't join masonry until much later in life. That book is the result of him getting redpilled at a young age, going down the rabbit hole in a bunch of libraries and probably also making some interesting acquaintances.

[Anonymous No.21904860]

>>21903042
Magic is just sacrificing stuff to "entities" so that they do things for you

[Anonymous No.21904918]

A ton of Hall's lectures are available in reasonable audio quality.

[Anonymous No.21904926]

>>21904853
The book is still a Masonic history. Are you fucking serious? Hall is the Albert G Mackey of the 20th century.

[Anonymous No.21904934]

>>21904843
A mason. The general hangup is that MPH passes off masonic rituals and imagery as historical fact. I remember listening to one of his lectures on YT and he said something to the affect of "oh ancient people totally knew all of this was symbolic of inner process" and I immediately dropped it.

[Anonymous No.21904951]

>>21900492
honestly theosophy is such a grift. i think that the edgelord alchemy/magic stuff from guys like evola is pretty cringe too. that doesn't mean that i would throw the baby out with the bath water.
i think that evola makes some good points, but i also don't believe in the 'everything is a circle' nonsense. just because our planets orbit other things like clockwork doesn't mean that humanity does too.

[Anonymous No.21904956]

>>21900523
it is meme shit, but it's meme shit that people stick to like everything else

[Anonymous No.21904964]

>>21904934
Higher level masonry is all Luciferian

[Anonymous No.21904970]

>>21897866
>comparative mythology & anthropology in general?
Eliade
Uždavinys
Golden Bough
Heros with a Thousand Faces bukakke

>>21898204
>Tibetan
Dzogchen (Chan in China, Zen & frens in Japan). For the apophatic lineage in post schismatic Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.21906556]

>>21897866
Utterly mogged by the Trads.

[Anonymous No.21906566]

>>21902953
>Another example of bad comparative religion mixed with pseudo-history just like Crowley and Grant and RAW and Kybalion as noted here.
No it isn't you idiot. You asked for books on Atlantis and Hermes being Enoch (wtf), the Trads do all of that best, far better than all of those people mentioned. Putting them on par with Kybalion and RAW is laughable.

And there are no "historical" books on Atlantis, since it would have existed 12,000 ago, so crying about pseudo-history is showing your ignorance, once again.

[Anonymous No.21906722]

>>21904964
>Luciferian
What does this mean? I hear it from time to time but it sounds like an anachronism or kitsch occult term referring to nothing. Can anyone here name any luciferian groups, doctrine, or texts?

[Sage No.21906802]

>>21906566
I am not the one who asked for books on those subject. I am merely a poster who criticizes theosophical bullshit like Guenon and Evola and MPH and Crowley. The most probable reason you like the trads n are in denial about their syncretic theosophy is cause yr a chud faggot w/o critical thought

[Anonymous No.21907399]

>>21906722
Lucifer: Princeps is an ok if pro occult biased overview of historical luciferianism and satanism. Masons, Thelemites, Scientologists, Mormons, Church of Satan, etc and related groups all do similar demonic rituals to gain power over the material world at the cost of their own soul's damnation. Their life tho.

[Anonymous No.21908178]

>>21907399
>Mormons do demonic rituals
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[Anonymous No.21908276]

>>21908178
Joseph Smith was an occultist and a fraudster

[Anonymous No.21908556]

>>21906802
>The most probable reason you like the trads n are in denial about their syncretic theosophy is cause yr a chud faggot w/o critical thought
The reader will notice how you have no argument and instead resort to amateur psychoanalysis, as if it had anything to do with the subject, as if it wasn't entirely laughable and grasping at straws.

Can you give me an astrology reading too, loser?

[Anonymous No.21908560]

>>21908276
He was based and a holy man. Better than most Christians. Mormons are based, if all whites were Mormon most of the current existential threats to Western civilisation (i.e., white people) would be gone.

[Anonymous No.21908574]

>>21897882
man, what a god-awful post to start the thread

[Anonymous No.21908651]

>>21908556
Lol. Retarded faggot. Learn reading comprehension. Did you know btw? Evola was an astrologer. Not I. Yr choice if you wanna believe a medieval indian philosopher revealed all of metaphysics but to claim it is the ur-tradition as in root of everything is absurd at best and pathetic at worst.

[Anonymous No.21908655]

>>21908560
You are pathetic. You would rather worship a false prophet than face reality. Kill yourself please, for you are no doubt already damned.

[Anonymous No.21908682]

>>21908651
>Lol. Retarded faggot. Learn reading comprehension
Good argument. Just kidding, you got BTFO and now you're coping, with no refutation.
>Evola was an astrologer
I was expecting you to say this, since I assumed you'd be too stupid to understand the differences between Traditional astrology and modern new age quackery, the same as your pathetic last-resort attempt for psychoanalysis. Are you brown?

[Anonymous No.21908693]

>>21897866
A title like that would of got my immediate interest when I was younger, but you eventually learn that there hasn't been a new "secret" to life since the greeks

[Anonymous No.21908694]

>>21908655
I don't care about what your clergy says is allowed or not, very few of them have any higher insight, which is why Christianity has become such a joke. Your countries are taken over by savage shitskins who hate and abuse you, and the church encourages and helps it. At least Mormons are proud to be white and have as many kids as possible. They are great people with actual esoteric wisdom. I wish all of Christianity was Mormon, things would be a lot better in the West.

[Anonymous No.21908732]

>>21908682
Is this like a no true scotsman in reverse?

>actually real astrology isn't astrology I was referring to overweighr lolcowz who read new age
You're the male version of this so pot calling kettle black.

[Anonymous No.21908738]

>>21908694
>having kids=enlightenment
>yet evola had no kids
>and you are probably an incel
>if kids=enlightenment, would you consider a pregnant slut in hs enlightened?
Hmmm

[Anonymous No.21908795]

>>21908693
Thats the thing about secrets to life. They are as old as life itself all of them. They are there for you to find even now. Its largely why I can't get behind the traditionalists with their "woe is me! One needs a teacher to guide him to the secrets! And there are no such teachers left!" There are teachers left and they aren't people. Call them spirits, call them phenomena, call them mystical messages from a higher power, call them revelation on a probing mind. The teacher is life and it has been doing it since the dawn of time.

[Anonymous No.21909481]

Anybody know of similar shit but specifically about occultic Eastern practices?

[Anonymous No.21909500]

>>21906722
It's a constellation of ideas

>ascending to personal godhood
>complete spiritual freedom
>mixing of light and dark, unity of opposites(ie doing evil shit but it's fine because you totally do good stuff too), androgny, anything that combines opposites
>rejection of traditional social norms
>secrecy
>elitism
>initiation

[Anonymous No.21910988]

>>21909481
Not sure if its what you are looking for but sufism is islamic mysticism and pic related seems to be a good account of its practice and myth.

[Anonymous No.21911099]

>>21910988
Do you have a pdf or epub of that book?

[Anonymous No.21911105]

>>21897866
I think its a good idea to understand the world and religions/anthropology and occultism from a variety of sources.

I know Manly P Hall was a mason but he was also murdered by other masons and they stole his books so i would imagine that he probably has some worthwhile ideas.

He wrote a lot of books on philsophy, religions and occultism in general so I think while he likely has a Masonic perspective its a good idea to get that perspective to see what the masons are really all about instead of just shouting masons are devil worshippers.

If Masons are your enemy I think its worthwhile to understand them or where they are wrong on things or what knowledge they do possess.

[Anonymous No.21912635]

>>21908738
NTA but I'd consider having kids and raising them right essential but not sufficient to enlightenment. Some incel in a shack somewhere doing nofap and reaching "enlightenment" has nothing on a fully realized man who's also a father.

[Anonymous No.21912874]

Was a fan but he is utterly mogged by Evola and Guénon.

[Anonymous No.21913005]

>>21900625
This book will save you a lot of time

[Anonymous No.21913048]

>>21898289
All esotericism is myth-making and Manly P. Hall was one of the great myth-makers. The criterion of truth is whether the muse is speaking in the work.

[Anonymous No.21913053]

>>21911105
can you use the word "mason(s)" more in your next post

[Anonymous No.21913054]

>>21900493
If you're a pleb. Go straight to Northrop Frye and literary criticism, this is /lit/ after all, we don't need to bother with kiddy works like Campbell (/tv/ tier), Hall or Evola (/x/ tier). Being is a text and Frye decoded it.

[Anonymous No.21913118]

>>21897866
Not a single occultist or esoteric or similar bullshit expert can heal the sick, expel demons and speak in languages after being baptized with the Holy Spirit by the name of Jesus Christ. There's no need to waste any second with that nonsense when you have Pastor Dowell videos to study. Sorry the truth hurts but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.21913122]

Any Mason experts know who Lynn F. Perkins is?

[Anonymous No.21913126]

>>21913048
Well said

[Anonymous No.21913261]

>>21908560
Evangelicalism, the American Roman Catholic Church, and Mormonism is in fact destroying America through its conservative death cult mindset.

[Anonymous No.21913267]

>>21898595
First half was good. Shat the bed when he got autistic about le hyperboreans and Atlantis though

[Anonymous No.21913278]

>>21913267
Sounds like that's just the sort of cool shit OP (me) wanted. Thx.

[Anonymous No.21913310]

>>21913278
I mean if that's what you want, the second half is good but I found it not to be as robust as what it followed. With the Hyperborean and Atlantean fixation it feels like Evola's just saying, "dude, trust me, it's totally legit" without any evidence to back it up.

Honestly though, I would recommend his book on Hermeticism. It's more of Evola recounting the Hermetic tradition and talking about alchemists and explaining the symbolism behind it. Pic related

[Anonymous No.21913313]

>>21908560
>and a holy man.
Being a whitewashed thomb is not a sign of holiness, following the Law (Torah) is.
>Better than most Christians.
Christianity is a satanic pagan religion that has nothing to do with the Bible so that isn't surprising
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CB85C3DF82DF9EB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9uIJUVyWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU0jTG7QF8g

[Anonymous No.21913525]

>>21913054
Campbell is kid's table and I love Fyre but I don't don't think he's as accessable and won't convince anyone to stop seeing menus as food so to speak.

[Anonymous No.21913602]

>>21909481
Henry Corbin and William Chittick for anything Islamic/Sufi, Arabic, or Persian. They're the two giants of the field, there are also others from Corbin's French academic school if you read French or who occasionally get translated into English.

[Anonymous No.21914149]

>>21913261
Mormonism is completely different than the other 2. Conservatism is good but doesn't usually go far enough, most conservatives are still progressives. If you're a leftist don't even bother replying, you're too underdeveloped to talk to about politics.

[Anonymous No.21914155]

>>21913310
Awesome book. Very complicated.