racial sadomasochism

[Anonymous No.21896352]

>Accusations that American culture and politics are saturated with psychosexual fantasies about race are not inventions of a crude and pornographic internet age, or of the right. They emerged in the mid-20th century among left-wing intellectuals in France and the United States. For the young Fanon (25 years old when he wroteBlack Skin, White Masks), they seemed an effective means of besmirching the motives of white racists and undermining the authority of white progressives.

>White Americans had created an image of blackness that combined animality, childishness, bodily prowess, and lawlessness. They had repressed these traits (the antithesis of middle-class respectability) in their own personalities but continued to unconsciously desire them—and, in a further complication, to desire punishment for craving such objectionable things. Having constructed a black stereotype, they spurned it, sought it out, and hated themselves for seeking it.

>For Fanon, this idea of white masochism was a revelation, capable of explaining why white people did not simply oppress black people, but also seemed to exhibit a strange longing for them. He had already concluded (on what he claimed was the basis of personal experience and psychiatric practice) that overt white racism toward blacks—ornegrophobia—had sexual origins. White women who fear the supposed sexual danger posed by black men actually long to be violated, Fanon wrote inBlack Skin, White Masks: “isn’t this fear of rape, in fact, a demand for rape? Just as we say that there are faces that are begging to be slapped, can’t we say that are women begging to be raped?” White male racists are “repressed homosexuals,” begging for the same thing. White people invented a myth of black male sexual superiority, symbolized by the black penis (which, Fanon insisted, is in fact no larger or more pleasurable than other varieties).

>White stereotypes about black people, in this vision, are not composite pictures built up from interpretations of experiences of black people’s behavior. Rather they are images invented for the pleasure of whites, and imposed, in totalizing and inescapable fashion, on black people. Indeed black people hardly exist as agents outside these stereotypes. As Fanon says, whites “have woven me from a thousand details.”

[Anonymous No.21896426]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/frantz-fanon-white-masochism

[Anonymous No.21896436]

>>21896426
Gestalt?

[Anonymous No.21896441]

>>21896352
This could have just been shortened to “muh dik” and carry the same retarded sentiments

[Anonymous No.21896459]

>>21896441
what? I am trying to find the psychology behind this phenomenon

[Anonymous No.21896464]

>>21896459
Oh but that’s pretty much all of them except this nigger is educated enough to use the power of Sigmund Freud to come to the same conclusions they always felt.

[Anonymous No.21896495]

>>21896352
Niggers invented the myth of white racism because they are repressed homosexuals who crave to be dominated by white men.

[Anonymous No.21896501]

>>21896464
So what is your solution? A good step towards remedying this problem is to find the hidden motives behind these attractions, the right-wing doesn't do anything in this regard, they only perpetuate them by returning to the classical colonial racism which preceded the liberal anti-racism, cause nothing appears out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.21896515]

Eldridge Cleaver understood how all politics, but specially racial politics, is really about psychosexual anxiety. Before the black power movement, black men were seen as henpecked cowardly and effeminate, think the unemployed coon ghetto dweller whose hooker bitch earns more than he does, southern mammies, jazz singers, tap dancers and lawn jockeys, southeners, an object of benevolent liberal concern not to be taken seriously. why do you think Soros et. al. specifically fund black feminist and black lgbt movements when its black men who get shot by cops? That's why Eldridge Cleaver and other leaders of the black movement talked so much about reclaiming black masculinity and, it worked even white racists on /pol/ feel awed by the black man's virility. guess Farrakahn and the NOI are the last remains of that sort of thing but you can also see how gangsta hip hop hustler culture was a degeneration of black power that outlasted the militant spirit of the sixties.

Likewise, the ostensibly principled stand against authority taken by the white counterculture degenerated into narcissistic hedonism, atomisation and political hysteria. California New Age woo, sillicon valley moguls and technoutopians, back to nature advocates, hippie enterpreneurs, libertarian polyamorists, intersectional feminist queers and the sort of people who make up the academic/political elite, it's really just 19th century american transcendentalism and religious revivalism via haight ashbury. And now it's whitey who feels more emasculated than ever, having grown up with /b/ hardcore porn, anime, suburban hellscapes, weed and psychiatric meds, violent videogames, ironic racism, south park and family guy and the death of god, he cant get laid has no friends, is unpleasant even to himseld and he will never own his own house in the suburbs like his father did and to top it all he's told he's privileged and he's doing too good for himself, no wonder they are resentful and psychotic, no wonder why he feels compelled to suscribe to blacked.com. right wingers suffer from a sadomasochist anal complex, they get off at feeling humilliated and dominated and humilliating and dominating others like narcissistic and transgressive exhibitionists. in a gruesome parodic way they are the true heirs of the radicals of the 60s and 70s. Sam Hyde is just the aryan Jerry Rubin. Like the new left hippies before them, the alt right quickly descended to suicidal baader meinhof jihadi behaviour or got hooked on hard drugs.

[Anonymous No.21896526]

>>21896352
Nigga be projectin

[Anonymous No.21896527]

>>21896501
Well some people are fit for positions of leadership and others, servitude, even if people didn’t see race they would know who’s been to space and who’s barely invented the wheel. And those people would be fit into classes accordingly. Nothing is holding them back from trying though.

[Anonymous No.21896538]

>>21896501
I should add what he’s trying to do is obfuscate the problem by assuming “white” racism stems from some secret desire to copulate with his kind which like Sigmund Freud, reeks of Jewish perversion

[Anonymous No.21896550]

>>21896515
>Sam Hyde
>aryan
I actually read through all of this trite, but this takes the cake.

[Anonymous No.21896564]

>>21896352
He's right. He's absolutely fucking right

[Anonymous No.21896626]

>>21896515
Isn't it interesting how its all just like a fall of dominoes? Is this pure chance or is it something behind it, a plan going on for at least since the colonial era, to prepare the terrain for all of this to happen (and with what goal?)?

[Anonymous No.21896681]

>>21896626
The trade triangle was only one step on the path, not the endeavor itself?

[Anonymous No.21896692]

>>21896441
It's moreso saying white society and racial attitudes are reflective of repressed homosexuality and cuckoldry. So basically he's calling white people gay cucks and white women whores.

[Anonymous No.21896699]

>>21896515
utterly based

[Anonymous No.21896727]

>>21896692
it doesn't imply that only white people are gay, cucks and whores, we are talking about a specific thing here, like it or not this is how it happened, white people being in the center of attention and blacks their subject

[Anonymous No.21896771]

>>21896681
one step

[Anonymous No.21896920]

bump

[Anonymous No.21896999]

>>21896352
Das rite.

[Anonymous No.21897000]

>>21896495
seething poor white hands typed this.

[Anonymous No.21897023]

I had the radio on while browsing this thread and coincidentally they played a song called "Africa" by the band TOTO, which seems rather fitting and sort of an example of the phenomena he is describing, in that it is a song by a white yuppie rock band making slick stadium rock music for the upper classes about how exotic Africa is and ascribing a seductiveness to the place.

[Anonymous No.21897024]

>>21896999
you know he was talking about white boys like you here >>21896515

The fact that you even have that saved on your computer is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21897028]

I mean u can see this with internet and how obsesssed white anons are with BBC. But sucks for a black man like me who has none of the traits that make him sexually attractive and alluring

[Anonymous No.21897038]

>>21897023
Africa would be a great place... without niggers.

[Anonymous No.21897045]

>>21897038
come here you yakubian, i must study your skull you ape.

[Anonymous No.21897050]

>>21897045
Don't insult my superior yomon physique.

[Anonymous No.21897061]

>>21897024
Yeah, I must subscribe to blacked.com in order to rediscover my inner childish lawlessness repressed by homosexual ornegrophobia.

[Anonymous No.21897064]

>>21896352
professional sports is a text book example of this, the way boomer white sports fans talk about black athletes has a homoerotic undertone and slavery era connotations in things like the draft (auction), scouting reports analyzing them based on their physical attributes, commodities that are used in transactions between white billionaire franchises who make money off of largely white consumers spending hundreds or thousands on tickets and merchandise, calling them "beasts" and "big tough guys" and what not, wearing their names on their backs.

[Anonymous No.21897067]

Black people are such fucking niggers about this stuff. I think white women are sincerely afraid of niggers raping them because that’s what niggers do lmao: they rape and maim because they’re cognitively deficient

[Anonymous No.21897078]

>>21897064
>names on their backs
referring to sports jerseys. this is an example of the sort of odd veneration and idolization they have of black athletes, spending most of their time watching games and reading articles about these players, buying $200 jerseys with the name of a black player, while simultaneously throwing around racial slurs and using the n word, voting republican etc
it is a paradox driven by repressed complexes

[Anonymous No.21897085]

>>21897067
Clearly you are racist. You are perpetuating the stereotyping he is describing.

[Anonymous No.21897100]

>>21897085
Yeah but I think nigs are inferior to whites, both physically and mentally and want them away from me. I don’t engage at all in their “culture” and have nothing but disdain for them. Freudianism is stupid and uniquely Jewish in how unscientific it is and you’re just trolling or patently retarded if you think any of this has any merit. Fanon was some dumb ape who was cynically instrumentalized during the Cold War theatre of the post colonial struggle. He offers nothing insightful, poignant, or profound.

[Anonymous No.21897138]

Where desire to dominate dwells, the cock is never far away.

[Anonymous No.21897166]

>>21897064
Organized sports is largely run by Jews, just like the slave trade. There is no surprise in seeing corollaries.

[Anonymous No.21897192]

>>21897085
>You are perpetuating the stereotyping he is describing
The homoerotic, inter-racial fetish erotica?

[Anonymous No.21897213]

>>21896441
>'retarded sentiments'
>everything he says is rooted in fact
>you would probably go cross-eyed reading anything more than 200 pages

lmao, post your 'return to tradition' gifs and eat shit

[Anonymous No.21897224]

I PUT THE NEW FORGI'S ON THE G
I TRAP UNTIL THE BLOODY BOTTOMS IS UNDERNEATH
'CAUSE ALL MY NIGGAS GOT IT OUT THE STREETS
I KEEP A HUNNID RACKS, INSIDE MY JEANS

[Anonymous No.21897236]

>>21896515
>black men were seen as henpecked cowards

So untrue. The stereotype of the powerful black man who is to be feared and subjugated by force lest he 'rise up' has been around since well before the antebellum period. Anti-black sexual canards were commonplace in the South, lynching victims often got their genitals cut off and passed around as psychosexual symbols of victory over an animal entity, black men since the Gilded Age have been stereotyped as hedonistic sense addicts moving from partner to partner.

It's very clear you've done no actual research and are a victim of the bullshit 'conditioning' you think you're exposing, considering you just wrote a psychotic buzzword-filled meme post that can be distilled into 'I read BAP and the first quarter of Decline of the West one time and also dislike black people'. Please die.

[OP !WYTbmLewsw No.21897291]

>>21896515
Do people understand God died in the late 19th century.?

[Anonymous No.21897399]

>>21896495
Sounds legit...

[Anonymous No.21898193]

>>21897236
I think it would help our analysis to also see some descriptions of blacks coming from the arab slave trade.

[Anonymous No.21898197]

>>21896352
Freudomarxism was such a failure, Lenin warned them.

[Anonymous No.21898361]

>>21896352
How did post-colonialism go from "whites are cucks'' and open praise of terrorism to woke id pol? What the fuck happened? I blame Edward Said.

[Anonymous No.21898403]

>>21896692
Exactly which is why I said “muh dik” the average negro cannot go a single minute without thinking about sex & fornication

[Anonymous No.21898427]

anglos are xenophiles, these claims are not true for other europeans

[Anonymous No.21899787]

>>21897085
Why were Plato, Aristotle, Hegel, Kant, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Proudhon, Heidegger, etc., etc., etc. racist? Because racism is correct and irrefutable you fucking mongoloid. Not genociding niggers in the colonization period was the worst mistake Europe ever made.

[Anonymous No.21900641]

>>21897213
source?

[Anonymous No.21900646]

>>21898361
Like everything in capitalism, it was co opted by capital and defanged

[Anonymous No.21900652]

>>21896692
Yeah, he sounds like he has resentment issues. Not uncommon.

[Anonymous No.21900667]

There is some truth in what he says
but apparently he doesn't mention the attitude his people to this stereotypes

do negroes they enjoy being stereotypes?
do they wish for freedom and independence or not?

[Anonymous No.21900679]

>>21896352
Appreciation of Negroes in America operates as a response to an increasingly technical environment. The primitive African takes the counterpart to the Faustian man, thus the highlighting of certain natural characteristics. Ellul explains:
>But every time these forces attempt to assert themselves, they are flung against a ring of iron with which technique surrounds and localizes them. Moreover, technique attacks man, impairs the sources of his vitality, and takes away his mystery. We have seen that one of the objectives of certain human techniques is to rob him of this mystery. And men must and do react instinctively and spiritually to the aggression of technique. When Henry Miller utters his anguished wail against the modem world, he is appealing through his fundamental eroticism to man’s most primitive instincts. When the American Negro was still a slave, jazz meant release from despair and chains. But it is questionable that eroticism and jazz really represent a purposive reaction to technical aggression. We cannot settle these problems by appealing to a purely verbal idealism. Jazz is one of today’s most authentically human protests. Let us trace it back to its origin. The Negroes were hopelessly enslaved. The story of their toil, punishments, hate, and crushed rebellions has been often told. The terrible black emperor of Santo Domingo was now no more than a dream. In their extremity the Negroes discovered song, which likewise answered the needs of faith. Music expressed for them at once the despair of the present and the hope for salvation in Christ. Its culmination in delirium brought deliverance, but only as opium and alcohol did for others. Marx’s celebrated remark that nineteenth-century religion was the opiate of the European masses is equally applicable to the jazz of the Negro slaves. In jazz they created a true art form. But with it they also shut every door to freedom. Jazz imprisoned the Negroes more and more in their slavery; from then on, they drew a morose relish from it. It is highly significant that this slave music has become the music of the modem world

[Anonymous No.21900682]

>>21897064
Agree. NFL and NBA fans always rubbed me the wrong way, how they're audiences of 90% white guys watching black men hit each other for their amusement, and how they describe the athletes as beasts and "physical specimens" and "freaks of nature" and all that shit.

[Anonymous No.21900689]

>>21900682
To be fair, a lot of black people watch those as well

[Anonymous No.21900691]

>White Americans had created an image of blackness that combined animality, childishness, bodily prowess, and lawlessness

Yes, they just 'created' this out of nowhere, no pattern recognition involved lol

[Anonymous No.21900706]

>>21900689
Yes, but take a closer look at the structure of the pro sports apparatus. The owners of the teams are, the managers, the sportscasters, the coaches, the scouts, the administrators of these leagues. These are all white men (or Jewish), and the purpose of these positions are centered on objectification of the black athlete, treating them as commodities to be bought and sold, judging them based on their physical characteristics and writing elaborate descriptions of their bodies, managers and coaches being paid to serve as a watchman keeping them in line. The average sports fan being an overweight boomer aged white man who cares more about the sports team than his own children while at the same time fearing his children entering an interracial relationship, epitomizing the psychosexual component and dialectic at the core of the sports fandom. The Southern states are the ex slave states, known for being extremely racist and right wing, yet they are also coincidentally the area of the US with the biggest football fanbase. This is no coincidence.

[Anonymous No.21900714]

>>21900706
I mean I agree with you generally, but I wonder what the explanation would be for black people who participate in this whole spectacle.

[Anonymous No.21900727]

>>21900714
I'll elaborate later if this thread is still active, as I have to leave, but it can be thought of as a sort of stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.21900745]

>>21900727
No need. I get it.

[Anonymous No.21900773]

why do stereotypes exists again?

[Anonymous No.21900776]

>>21896352
why do niggers still try to pretend they're people, all of recorded history reveals them to be dumb animals and I'm tired of pretending they're not

[Anonymous No.21900792]

i feel like there is a role calvinism and protestantism play in all of this but i won't elaborate on it.

[Anonymous No.21900810]

>>21896352
What would he have thought of thug hunting and buck breaking?

[Anonymous No.21900859]

The more I read about whites and blacks, the more I think that only eastern asians deserve to live (arabs and indians are just a retarded version of white people).

[Anonymous No.21901192]

>>21896352
Lots of predictions here came true, imagine a future where the great-grandson of the cracker is an impoverished single who lives as a perpetual child; bereft of his grammar and engineering knowledge, pleasuring himself to static full color photographs of negros engaging in congress with child-like young girls who have shave their vagina to resemble an even younger infant child. He's literally masturbating over his own confused racial delusions; to imagine the girl unwilling and being raped - a thing he often espouses to motivate his people to action - but pleasuring himself to the picture instead.

It is a profoundly strange culture we're looking at in the far future of probably year 2000.

[Anonymous No.21901208]

>>21896352
>White women who fear the supposed sexual danger posed by black men actually long to be violated, Fanon wrote inBlack Skin, White Masks: “isn’t this fear of rape, in fact, a demand for rape? Just as we say that there are faces that are begging to be slapped, can’t we say that are women begging to be raped?” White male racists are “repressed homosexuals,” begging for the same thing.

>>21900810
>>21900776
>>21896999
>>21896526
>>21896441

You can't refute this without becoming a leftist, you gay ubermensch you. You can't, also, solve the Woman Problem or the False Accusation culture without accepting this either.

[Anonymous No.21901226]

>>21900706
>The Southern states are the ex slave states
Can you name a state that never had slaves? I do not think that you can. It is written into The Constitution. I acknowledge that it was more prevalent in The South.

[Anonymous No.21901233]

>>21901208
A lot more people than I would like actually succumb to demagoguery such as this.

[Anonymous No.21901254]

>everyone who criticizes blacks is a closeted bbc addict
>everyone who criticizes homosexuals is a closeted faggot
>everyone who criticizes transexuals is a closeted 41%er
Is there a name for this retarded fallacy yet cuz I'm getting real sick of seeing this dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.21901285]

>>21896352
should i watch the documentary about fanon tonight?

[Anonymous No.21901295]

>>21901208
leftists sure love their dialectical word games, too bad you can't play them when you're lined up against a wall

[Anonymous No.21901303]

>>21897213
Yep, you’re a tranny

[Anonymous No.21901306]

>>21900792
Calvinism is just the other side of Marxism, two sides of the same shit covered coin

[Anonymous No.21901311]

>>21901254
Not really, the “science” community is Reddit incarnate at the moment and all there is to be found is projection

[Anonymous No.21901314]

>>21901208
Disagree. Materialism is a false god, there is one truth and it doesn’t exist on this plane, nigga.

[Anonymous No.21901351]

>>21901285
It sounds like a hoot.

[Anonymous No.21901388]

>>21901233
>>21901295
>>21901314
You grossly misunderstood my meaning; this is your brain on american politics lol

OKay, "you can't refute,"
>>White women who fear the supposed sexual danger posed by black men actually long to be violated, Fanon wrote inBlack Skin, White Masks: “isn’t this fear of rape, in fact, a demand for rape? Just as we say that there are faces that are begging to be slapped, can’t we say that are women begging to be raped?” White male racists are “repressed homosexuals,” begging for the same thing.
"without becoming a leftist," because you'll find yourself having to suddenly deny that women are into rough sex, or that homosexuals are not into being raped either; that gays are al about chivalric love and women are dainty and can do no wrong.

AND WTF HAS THIS COMMENT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING XD
>>21901314
>Materialism is a false god, there is one truth and it doesn’t exist on this plane, nigga
You should go back there then, give up on this /pol/ shit and leave the inferior material plane to the people who are interested in it.

[Anonymous No.21901399]

>>21900727
Hey anon I want to hear more takes about how the NFL is an allegory for slavery and example of freudian projection

[Anonymous No.21901416]

>>21901233
It is true though; think of today with the "raped by eyes" or "manspreading" culture, and then just take the mindset of those women back in time a few decades; you'll find yourself looking at a crowd of morons posing for photos with a lynched corpse, based on her false accusation.

And that's the start and finish of that Racism thing you're always being blamed for.

[Anonymous No.21901424]

Also that Witch-burning thing a few years beforehand.

[Anonymous No.21901508]

>>21901388
Meds

[Anonymous No.21901563]

>>21897000
He's mocking the OP take you illiterate troglodyte

[Anonymous No.21901581]

>>21901416
>based on her false accusation
That is rough. I see where you are going, but blacks do like their raping. Seeing how many lynchees were actually innocent would be an interesting revelation. The amount of guilty blacks is greater than zero. What an intersection.
>the corner of all black men are innocent avenue and believe all women boulevard

[Anonymous No.21901608]

>>21901508
I think that he probably knows that he has a good point but that he is frustrated because of ESL or some other issue and he cannot express it clearly. Either that or there really is demagoguery in there and he just cannot see it because of ideological constraints. It does not sound like a meds issue to me.

[Anonymous No.21901628]

>>21901424
Some of the recantations look legit, but an objective reading of The Story of the Men of the Red Branch of Ulster will leave one open to the reality of witches. They don't need to fly on brooms. Something as simple as disfiguring a princess's face can be enough to shift political power from one sphere to another.

[Anonymous No.21902749]

>>21901208
>>White women who fear the supposed sexual danger posed by black men actually long to be violated, Fanon wrote inBlack Skin, White Masks: “isn’t this fear of rape, in fact, a demand for rape? Just as we say that there are faces that are begging to be slapped, can’t we say that are women begging to be raped?” White male racists are “repressed homosexuals,” begging for the same thing.

[Anonymous No.21902776]

>>21896352
So is he justifying black men raping white women because deep down they really want it? I thought
he left was anti-rape?

[Anonymous No.21902789]

>>21896352
>During the war, Fanon was exposed to more white European racism. For example, European women liberated by black soldiers often preferred to dance with fascist Italian prisoners, rather than fraternize with their liberators.

sounds like this nigger was buck broken beyond belief and was projecting in order to cope

[Anonymous No.21902879]

>>21900667
Stereotyping works both ways, i think it's less a matter of enjoying but of finding a social role/identity. Sort of like men who might not even enjoy it that much will pretend to love big cars, sportsball and big-titted blondes to fit in with a certain crowd.
Also those stereotypes are employed in marketing and seep into a developing young mind, the negro stereotypes have been marketed to be associated with coolness and you're socially rewarded for conforming to them.

[Anonymous No.21902928]

>>21901254
No, the only solution is ignoring sophists.

[Anonymous No.21902950]

BLACKED ruined 4chan and american society and zoomers minds forever.

[Anonymous No.21902965]

>>21902950
hot men, but why's that ugly whore in the middle there? the only thing blacked did is allow bi and homofags more access to nigger dicks

[Anonymous No.21903249]

>>21896352
>White women who fear the supposed sexual danger posed by black men actually long to be violated

Surely feminists would have a field day if you gave them this quote? Then again I forget, who is higher in the hierarchy of SJW wokeness - ethnic minorities or women?