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I want to be a writer. Unfortunately where I grew up they completely cut grammar from the curriculum during 5th through 12th. Is there a easy way a brainlet like me can learn grammar? Some sort of grammar for retards?

>> No.21876835

>>21876829
Second this, maybe a "How to write a book if you're retarded" would really help

>> No.21876843

>>21876829
You can learn everything you need to know about writing through your reading, assuming you pick good enough authors.
If you don't, you shouldn't try to be a writer anyway.

>> No.21876850
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>>21876829
The Simon and Schuster Handbook for Writers is a very good reference. You do not need the latest edition at a hundred dollars. Just get an old edition in mint condition for ten dollars.

>> No.21876851

>>21876829
Why do you assume you need special training in grammar to be a writer? People know grammar intuitively. If you read widely (and if you want to be a writer, that definitely *is* a prerequisite) then you shouldn't have to fear making basic grammatical slip-ups.

>> No.21877007
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21877007

Didn’t know that was a video

>> No.21877671

>>21876851
You underestimate how retarded I am. Grammer does not come intuitively to me.

>> No.21877682

>>21876829
Read good books and learn it intuitively. Books on grammar can be useful for reference, but you're not going to get very far if you lack an intuitive sense of whether or not something is incorrect in your writing.

>> No.21877700

>>21877671
>Grammer
Nor does spelling.

>> No.21877704

>>21876829
just use grammarly and study your mistakes. you're never gonna be a writer if you wait to learn stuff first before writing. just write.

>> No.21877711

>>21877007
She looks like a schoolgirl awaiting punishment. What‘s the full video?

>> No.21877717

>>21876850
Is there something like this but for British English?

>> No.21877743

https://archive.org/details/writingthinkingh0000norm/page/n1/mode/2up

this is a grammar book that has been popular with college students for decades after its release

>> No.21877839

>>21876829
You need an app or editor to check your mistakes.

>> No.21877857

>>21877839
If you're bad at writing, sure. If you need an editor for anything other than tightening up the structure of your novel, you are a very poor writer. Publishers and agents won't even give you the time of day if you can't at the very least produce a mostly clean manuscript

>> No.21877868

>>21877743
Thank you

>> No.21877874

O am certain there is free study material or curriculum for this online that you can do to brush up on some of the more particular stuff that you might not pick up on just from reading.
Like which version of a word you should use when (then or than for example).

It's how I brushed up on my math skills that I forgot since I didn't have to use it for a couple decades.

>> No.21877935

>>21876829
I just wouldn't worry about it.
We're increasingly post-grammar; being a stickler for it is seen as gauche, and the vernacular is actively wrong in many cases. Write according to your personal aesthetics, society barely cares as long as they get the gist.

>> No.21877936

it's called reading

>> No.21877951

>>21876829
Read good models, you already know what you can and cannot do for the most part.

>>21877007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBuK4kQ8hb8

>> No.21878029

>>21877936
I'm actually a fairly fast reader- on a good book I can do 80 to 100 pages an hour. It's like my brain is lazy- it just ignores everything, including the grammar and spelling and absorbs the story. As much as I've read- I should be a grammar wizard.

>> No.21878058

>>21877700
Neither*

>> No.21878083

>>21878029
>speed-reader
>ignores all of the prose to consume story
>finds that he doesn't learn much about grammar and writing through reading
Well, yeah...that's generally how that works...

>> No.21878450

>>21877717
Outside of colloquial vernacular, I do not see a lot of difference between American English and British English. How would you expect a text like this one to differ if it were in British English?

>> No.21878494

>>21876851
I am an editor. This is false

>> No.21878505

Just write a book and than ask AI to correct it, maybe even improve it a little bit, worked for me, currently at 8k books sold and im a retard

>> No.21878520

>>21876829
became a story teller
narrate

>> No.21878682

>>21876829
>I want to be a writer
Why? Do you want to be a writer or do you want to write? There's a subtle difference

>> No.21879712

>>21876829
Jewish milkers stopped my antisemitism
now all i crave is hebrew honkers

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zs7PpsXt87g

>> No.21879718

Fuck good grammar. Me and my boys hate it

>> No.21879721

>>21876829
im here for my piano lessons ms shapiro

>> No.21879921

>>21879712
mmmmmmmmm

>> No.21880124

>>21876829
Read, read, and reread, thats the way to expand vocab and knowledge of grammar. Great gif btw.

Was gonna link the video of Eggy going "OOOO MS SHAPIRO" but its either been taken down or the new crap AI algorithm of ewtube isnt letting me find it.

>> No.21880241

>>21879712
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MISS SHAPIIIIIIRROOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.21880281

>>21876829
>>21877007
Shes ugly

>> No.21880315
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21880315

wifey Abby

>> No.21880335

>>21880281
That's the point. Sort of like when a white girl fucks a nigger.

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21881268

It's really this easy, OP

>> No.21881274

>>21880281
jealous femanon, show us your body and we'll judge if you're hotter

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>>21880335
Fuck off and go watch your porn, foul dark 3rd worlder.

>> No.21881421

>>21881274
I'm a straight white male. She's ugly, the only good features are her boobs. Otherwise she has a crooked masculine (not boyish) face. 6/10 at best. Stop being a virgin.

>> No.21881435

>>21876829
I find that one way that helps is reading your stuff out loud.
If it sounds weird it's probably because you messed up the grammar a bit and should rewrite that part to flow better.

Also pick up a book on grammar and do the exercises laid out in the book. You should be old and experienced enough to teach yourself.

Largely ignore those saying it just comes magically from passively reading. That's bullshit and they don't know what they are talking about.

>> No.21881436

>>21881421
why does a group of men ogling a woman make you angry
would you be less angry if we were ogling a woman you find attractive? that sounds kinda cucky bro

>> No.21881448

>>21881436
Wrong. I'm not angry, I just gave my opinion (that she's ugly) and you responded (implying that you're upset, not me).

>> No.21881453

>>21881448
>stop being a virgin
sounded like lashing out to me

>> No.21881754

>>21876851

This is absolutely not true. Solecistic writing is everywhere, and counting on one's intuitive understanding of grammar without any formal study leads to one's replicating those errors.

>> No.21881989

If your grammar isn’t perfect just from passive reading you’re ngmi.

>> No.21882117

>>21881989
this is true
>>21881754
is solecistic writing necessarily a bad thing? maybe OP's concern stems from the fact that his colloquial english differs a lot from standard forms hence his concern about grammar.

it's not as if you need to write like everyone else to be a successful writer-- it's closer to the opposite, really.

>> No.21882133

>>21881435
>That's bullshit and they don't know what they are talking about.
It's definitely not. You still want to learn by using grammar books and doing exercises like you said, though. Actually knowing the rules makes you a stronger writer than just having a good sense for what sounds/looks right or wrong. It would also be a little embarrassing to call yourself a writer and not be able to expound upon grammatical subjects when asked

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21882197

You must learn Latin using forceful brute memorization. First, as you read or write, translate everything to Latin. Prior to that you should know exactly what you're going to say before letting a word of Latin or English grace your cerebellum. O 4channers, Plan! Plan! Plan! Early to bed and early to rise. Put everything in place before it dies.

>> No.21882351

>>21876829
when the bbc slowly enters the forbidden hole

>> No.21882770

>>21880281
Must be nice for you to finally have something in common with a woman

>> No.21882898

>>21876829
Cambridge Latin

Not english grammer but Latin is such a grammarian's language that you can't learn it without a firm knowledge of grammar generally (so much applies to English and even broader)

>> No.21883088

>>21876829
English isn't Latin or Arabic my man. It's literally the easiest language on Earth, just read good authors and absorb from them. No need to relearn grammar.

>> No.21883114

>>21881421
Based and true.

>> No.21883287

>>21876850
>1000 pages
what is this shit

>> No.21883306

>>21876829
read. missing out on public school grammar probably puts you ahead of most people.

>> No.21883504

>>21881421
I like her boobs. Literature needs more big titty jewesses

>> No.21883792

>>21882117
Do you really think it's a good thing for a writer to deviate from correct English without any direct knowledge of the errors they're making? It seems to me that the first step for a serious writer who wanted to compose that way would be to understand the rules they intend to break.

>> No.21884227

>>21877935
>We're increasingly post-grammar; being a stickler for it is seen as gauche, and the vernacular is actively wrong in many cases.
I find this strangely distressing. Is it autism?