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What is your face when you listen to a song or see visual art that puts to shame the best literature written by man?

>mfw

>> No.2186865
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>mon visage quand

showin' off that pimp-ass literate style

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>mfw

>> No.2186869

>>2186858

Show me an example then, you smartass.

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There is none, for it is never the same as literature - at least not for me. A song may include a story in the lyrics, but it's mostly just a short and simple one, comparable to flash fiction. Usually music and visual art hust convey a feeling, and just ONE feeling at that. It succeeds in that, but it lacks the different stages and feeling a reader experiences in a novel.
Not to dis music and visual art, but it is something different.

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>mfw
Comparing apples to dildos, my friend. Apples to dildos.

>> No.2186883

shame? not shame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bHC8XEfEYk&feature=related

It's Mi mineur from Dante Alighieri's Paradise.

O voi che siete in piccioletta barca,
desiderosi d'ascoltar, seguiti
dietro al mio legno che cantando varca,
[tornate a riveder li vostri liti:]
Non vi mettete in pelago, ché forse,
perdendo me, rimarreste smarriti.
L'acqua ch'io prendo giá mai non si corse;
Minerva spira è conducemi Appollo,
è nove Muse mi dimostran l'Orse.

O you who are in your tiny boat,
eager to hear more, following
behind my ship that advances, singing,
[go back, if you are to see your shores again.]
Do not put yourselves to sea, for if
you lose me, you too will be forever lost.
The waters I travel have never yet been crossed;
Minerva breathes, and Apollo guides me,
it is the nine Muses who show me the North Star.

Haunting song.

>> No.2186887

>>2186883
Preisner is fucking awesome.

>> No.2186888

>>2186869

>show me an example

>implying there are objective universal examples of quality that transcend idiosyncratic individual tastes.

no.

>> No.2186890

>>2186873

>2011
>listening to songs that aren't purely instrumental

wow...

>> No.2186895

>>2186869
>>2186869

>example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3BlFZWJNA

>> No.2186897

>>2186888

>2011
>still thinking art appreciation is entirely subjective

I see you're afraid.

>> No.2186903

>>2186897

prove me wrong.

>> No.2186906

To me they are quite different: a painting or piece of music can somehow capture some ineffable mood or thought that literature cannot capture. Munch's the Scream has always affected since I was a child in a way I do not think could be put to words.

Similarly, Darkness at Noon is able to express a critique of Stalin's Russia, the failure of revolution and a man's decline in old age in a way a picture of piece of music couldn't.

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What is your face when you sage, report and hide a shitty troll thread on /lit/?

>mfw

>> No.2186931

>>2186858
you have obviously not read the tao te ching.

>> No.2186949

>>2186931

It impressed me when I was 14.
Now it's rather mundane and trivial.

>> No.2186952

>>2186927

It's not a troll to prefer one medium of art over another.

you need thicker skin.

>> No.2186957

hysterical, most likely laughing.

>> No.2186960

>>2186949
sorry but you either read a poor translation or did not read it carefully or are stupid.

>> No.2186970

>>2186858
>2011
>still affected by art
gtfo

>> No.2186973

>>2186960

>I found it impressive

>you either read a poor translation or did not read it carefully

how do you figure?

>> No.2186982

>>2186973

because there are many translations out their that actually take effort to understand, which were not the intentions of the author

but as well the book explains every detail of life and living in incredible detail and subtlety, it literally answers every question

http://www.taoteching.org/
this is the translation i read and i guarentee it isnt the same one you read and i also guarentee youll find it easier to read

>> No.2187007

>>2186982

>many translations...which were not the intentions of the author

you have no access to his intentions.

>the book explains every detail of life...it literally answers every question

except it doesn't. At best it might answer all of *your* questions, but even this I doubt.

>youll find it easier to read

I never found it difficult to read. I read it while studying zen. It seemed obvious to me at the time, and still does, depending on how generously you interpret it.

But now I'm not a fan of declarative aphorisms. It seems very authoritarian because it doesn't justify itself. It simply espouses phrases as if they are facts. It doesn't even bother to explain itself, or define its jargon.

Aesthetically it is pleasant. Philosophically it is impotent, imo.

>> No.2187013

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>> No.2187023

>>2187007
get a load of this asshole

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>>2186858
yes when i first heard slipknot

IF UR 555 IM 666

>> No.2187090

Itt: lit knows fuckall about art

>> No.2187110

>>2187007
LOL

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>>2186858

>> No.2187653

Who is the girl in the OP? I see her picture posted here often.

>> No.2187686

>>2187653
lena

>> No.2187712

>>2187686

define "lena"

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mfw I have no face because what OP has described has never happened.

>> No.2188193

Nonoverlapping Magisteria, Unless you have Synesthesia so severe as to incapacitate you, the gap between different media is going to prevent total comparison. I have had pizza so good, it would make you weep, I have read books that evoked the same physiological reaction. That doesn't imply they are comparable. Even if a song can make you feel something in minutes, that doesn't mean it surpasses something that made you feel after hours of reading. Especially since reaction after the affect is different. Minutes after listening to the greatest song, are you still as enraptured as you are minutes after the greatest book?

>> No.2188307

>>2187717

second.