Classic Greeks

[Anonymous No.21867113]

I've been absolutely poring over the Landmark editions. Thucydides was the first i got, best I've ever seen with all the appendices and maps. Then Herodotus of course. Now obsessed with Xenophon's Anabasis, my favourite so far. These Landmark editions are the best I've ever seen Classics in one volume. Any other translations or editions similar? There are only a half dozen in the series. Ordering Arrian's Alexander next.
The Odyssey is my favourite book of all time, which is the Ultimate edition?
Also other must-buy Greek works?

[Anonymous No.21867116]

>>21867113
Should have read Herodotus before Thucydides. No coming back from that blunder, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.21867129]

>>21867116
To be fair Landmark published Thucydides before Herodotus.

[Sage No.21867159]

I hope you have some Loeb in your library

[Anonymous No.21867167]

>>21867129
That is a pathetically insufficient excuse, you know this.

[Anonymous No.21867169]

>>21867159
Loeb editions are useless unless you're trying to learn Greek or Latin

[Yusuf Reis !!WJh3Qmu5nf/ No.21867178]

Rodney Merrill’s translations of the Oresteia are the finest in the English language but his books lack annotations and the introduction focuses mostly on the poetry of the works.

[Anonymous No.21867179]

>>21867167
I had read Herodotus in high school but for these editions i read Thucydides first.
>>21867159
Definitely interested in Loeb Library

[Anonymous No.21867182]

>>21867178
Thank you for the response. Translation is a huge deal. I definitely prefer annotated copies but in their absence at the very least i want to make sure to sus out the best translation

[Sage No.21867184]

>>21867169
I understand your aesthetic for book bindings and respect that. I for one love the double translations.

[Anonymous No.21867204]

Holy shir i just found out The Warriors was a modernisation of Xenophon's Anabasis, mans is even still named Cyrus

[Anonymous No.21867206]

>>21867204
Wtf fr??

[Yusuf Reis !!WJh3Qmu5nf/ No.21867212]

>>21867182
Meant to add of Homer to that as well. If you care about the poetry of these works I strongly recommend him. His Argonatica is also the best.

Here is a translation he did of one of the Homeric hymns
https://chs.harvard.edu/8-the-homeric-hymn-to-apollo-translated-by-rodney-merrill-2/

For the rest of Greek poetry get Lattimore where possible, very good translation of Hesiod, The Greek Lyrics and Pindar

[Anonymous No.21867219]

>>21867206
Great movie and great book

[Anonymous No.21867222]

>>21867212
Thanks for that. Can never have too many copies of Homer, always on the hunt for the perfect translation. Lattimore i have

[Anonymous No.21867225]

>>21867219
and great video game, thanks Xenophon

[Anonymous No.21867571]

>>21867113
I found fagles iliad and Odyssey to be really good.

As far as other Greek works, apollodorus' library of myth if you want a more primary sauce for the myths. Hesiods works and days is great. Someone else here already mentioned the orestia, definetly read it for a better explanation of what happened to agamemnon after the Trojan War and the after math.

Argonautica is also good as anon recommended, but keep in mind it is not on par with Homer (I may have just read a bad translation but it didn't do it for me like the Iliad and odyssey)

There's other Greek tragedies I haven't read (Ajax for example) so can't recommend. I did not like the thebean (oedipus) tragedies but you may like them)

And of course if you wanna get super deep, demosthenes' speeches

[Yusuf Reis !!WJh3Qmu5nf/ No.21867595]

>>21867571
No, even the best translation (Merrill’s) shows that the Argonautica is no where near Homer, and all scholars agree that it doesn’t compare. No work would hold a candle to Homer until the Aeneid came along (I suggest Ahl’s translation for that), although that is Latin, not Greek.

Bibliotheca is an excellent resource if you are crazy about Greek mythology, the very best, and it is now available in one volume with Fabulae. But one should be aware these texts are very, very dry, they are not like poetry or history but more a bare statement of the “facts” of the mythological cycle

All the Greek tragedies are worth reading, Ajax is the only one that presents Odysseus in a positive light interestingly.

[Anonymous No.21868671]

>>21867595
>they are not like poetry or history but more a bare statement of the “facts” of the mythological cycle
Yep. It is basically a straight telling
>Hercules did this
>theses went to crete, killed the minotaur by using string in the labyrinth
Etc.

[Anonymous No.21869358]

What's the best version of Procopius?

[Anonymous No.21869829]

>>21867113
Diodorus is my favourite. I think you should read his books on the successors once you get through the arrian.

[Anonymous No.21870737]

>>21869829
Excellent, thank you, definitely will get some diodorus, just what I'm looking for

[Anonymous No.21870782]

>>21867113
didn't you make this thread before? must've been weeks or a month by now. anw i remember being interested but then a few anons talked about what they didn't like and then i wasn't so sure.

what exactly makes Landmark editions special or better than others?

[Anonymous No.21870816]

What I'd the best translation of Geography?

[Yusuf Reis !!WJh3Qmu5nf/ No.21870826]

>>21870782
Mostly a lot of maps throughout (many other useful supplements as well though) which allow one to follow what the author is referring to in geography since a lot of the names of places have changed and there are different cities and the terrain might be obscure to those unfamiliar with the area. Commentary and supplements for older works is always nice (that’s why we love Norton Critical editions) but especially helpful for works of antiquity where it is easy to miss things the author presumes you know

[Anonymous No.21870829]

>>21867169
They are the sole publisher of some works like the Historia Augusta in English. Plus the books themselves are very, very high quality. They are basically indestructible

[Anonymous No.21871084]

>>21867113
I wish I could have gotten Herodotus in hardcover

[Anonymous No.21872152]

>>21870829
They're not high quality at all tardoid, I own several and the fucking paper is alway a mishmash of shite that yellows at different rates, or crap bible paper.

[Anonymous No.21872546]

>>21867113
>landmark thucydides instead of the hobbes translation
Don't you guys care about reading accurate translations?