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Just finished this book. This book is about:

>A man named Gregor who turned into a bug;
>This affected him so much. He could not work. He could not earn money for his family. He felt guilty and depressed because he could not be useful. He could not communicate his feeling and thought;
>Later his sister and the rest of the family realized Gregor turned into a bug. He was being feeded and cared;
>After a long time, his sister realized Gregor was such a burden;
>Gregor came to his bedroom with pain and died naturally;
>His family got a new life, moved to different place, and enjoyed life. Totally forgetting gregor.

What a tragic story. I interpretate this as an alegory of being cripple. Being cripple would make you suffer so bad and after a long period of time, a person who loved you the most would piss on your face and wish you nothing but being throwed out of this world.

Nietzsche was right when he said, "There is no life without pleasure. The struggle for pleasure is the struggle for life." Every abstract metaphysical concept such as "love" would be useless if someone you "love" could not bring you pleasure anymore.

Also this book teaches you that the worth of a man is being determined whether he has ability to work or not. This is not bad. This just Shows that humans are homo economicus.

However this is a great book to understand human nature and to kick the boredom far away.

>> No.21856209

Kafka intended as part of a trilogy called The Sons, the other two stories in the Trilogy are the Judgment and the Stoker (this is also the first chapter of the novel Amerika)

>> No.21856228

>>21856209
Thanks! I never knew this before.

>> No.21856245

>>21856228
The Judgement is about a son who angers his father by getting engaged. The Stoker (and the novel Amerika) is about a boy who is raped by the maid and exiled by his father to America for it. Each of the three stories is about a son’s tension with his father

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>> No.21856771

>>21856201
Good for you ChatGPT-kun

>> No.21856921

>>21856201
Allegory of being cripple but also depressed and mentally ill. Depressed people a lot of the time also can’t mive and provide

>> No.21857140

>>21856201
I find it funny how his father was living the NEET life at his expense until he became a cockroach, and how his sister was the only person that actually cared for him in the household, even if after so long she could only be relieved by Gregor's death.

>> No.21857629

>>21856201
Literally me.

>> No.21857640

>>21856201
>There is no life without pleasure. The struggle for pleasure is the struggle for life.
More like there is no sacrifice without sacrifice. The struggle for sacrifice is the struggle for life.

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>>21856201
If the cosmos decided to turn you into a giant insect, why did he stay home and feel sorry for himself? Needs to go out on the town, shutting down restaurants, terrorizing the populace, eating peoples' pets, feeling up women with the spiny bits of his legs...seems like he could have the time of his life and be remembered as a legend forever.

>> No.21857951

>>21857864
>liiiiiivin like a bug ain't easy

>> No.21858672

>>21856921
True.

>> No.21858718

>>21857864
>>21857951
He was probably embarrassed to be naked. His old clothes don't seem to fit him.

>> No.21858740

>>21856201
I don’t think it’s an allegory for anything specifically, just a figurative representation of feelings of alienation in the modern world. What stuck out to me most was how Gregor didn’t even care that he turned into a beetle and in fact assumed that it happens to other people

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>>21857140
>cockroach
A cockroach is an insect that is flat in shape with large legs, and Gregor is anything but flat: he is convex on both sides, belly and back, and his legs are small. He approaches a cockroach in only one respect: his coloration is brown. That is all. Apart from this he has a tremendous convex belly divided into segments and a hard rounded back suggestive of wing cases. In beetles these cases conceal flimsy little wings that can be expanded and then may carry the beetle for miles and miles in a blundering flight. Curiously enough, Gregor the beetle never found out that he had wings under the hard covering of his back. (This is a very nice observation on my part to be treasured all your lives. Some Gregors, some Joes and Janes, do not know that they have wings.) Further, he has strong mandibles. He uses these organs to turn the key in a lock while standing erect on his hind legs, on his third pair of legs (a strong little pair), and this gives us the length of his body, which is about three feet long. In the course of the story he gets gradually accustomed to using his new appendages—his feet, his feelers. This brown, convex, dog-sized beetle is very broad.

In the original German text the old charwoman calls him Mistkäfer, a "dung beetle." It is obvious that the good woman is adding the epithet only to be friendly. He is not, technically, a dung beetle. He is merely a big beetle. (I must add that neither Gregor nor Kafka saw that beetle any too clearly.)

>> No.21860002

>>21859606
Hmm...interesting.

>> No.21860028

i’m just like gregor, except even more pathetic and verminous

>> No.21861183

>>21856201
He doesn't turn into a bug at all, you're mistaken

>> No.21861192

>>21859606
I'm not reading this shit, you know what the fuck I was talking about, fuck you and kys

>> No.21862647

Bumperino.

>> No.21862726
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>>21856201
It’s clearly an allegory about being trans

>> No.21862845

>>21856201
you could get a certain kind of pleasure from caring for a cripple

>> No.21862851

>>21862845
Maybe if you get to fuck it, too.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>> No.21862936

>>21862845
Stefan Zweig - Impatience of the heart

>> No.21862982

>>21862845
I get a certain kind of pleasure from caring for plants.
At the end of the plant's life, I will either be harvesting it as something to eat or I will have gotten to appreciate a flower's beauty or gotten those sweet looks of envy from the Joneses wishing their garden looked as good as mine.
Simarily, caring for a cripple is selfish. You only can gain pleasure from it by showing off to others how pious you are to do it. If you aren't getting social kudos, caring for another is only a wearing burden.
The only wholly-wholesome love like that is a man and a dog. Its completely selfless. My dog needs me to prepare his food and I take extra time to make him special meals to sprinkle some peanut butter powder and olive oil on his meal just because he enjoys his meal more that way. I let him outside to go potty when he needs to because he's helpless to do it himself. Its a burden on me to drop everything and play with my dog when he wants to play but I do it just because it makes him happy. My dog does nothing for me but I will do anything for him.

>> No.21863044

>>21862982
well a dog is innocent animal by nature and watching its innocence is joyful to us
a cripple could also speak to you, they could be good company they could even do your taxes but i guess you mean something like a person in coma

>> No.21864406

>>21862726
It's a popular thing in anime or webcomics but let me know when a man wakes up one morning as a woman without knowing it.

>> No.21864434

>>21864406
Don't reply to bait that glows so hard.

>> No.21864490

>>21856201
What if you cared for years for a giant bug that you thought was your son/brother only to find out that it was only a random giant bug

>> No.21864502

>>21858740
Me too anon. Early in when he's worried about work he has a moment where he considers that maybe his boss will be understanding about it all because his boss could have possibly had the same thing happen to him in the past. Made me laugh. I'm not sure if it was Kafkas intention for the book to be funny (it's the only Kafka I've ever read) but I thought it was a very funny book at times.

>> No.21864530

>>21858740
>I don’t think it’s an allegory for anything specifically, just a figurative representation
In other words, an allegory

>> No.21864630

>>21864490
That would be quite Kafkaesque.