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Why did you make me waste my time with The Prince instead of reading this one?

>> No.21855832

>>21855805
Because this is only important if you're concerned with Livy.

>> No.21855871

>>21855832
I'm concerned with good books.

>> No.21856027

>>21855805
i think the prince is one of the best books ever written. how is the livy one better?

>> No.21856044

>>21855805
You're not "wasting your time" - you can read the whole of The Prince in a day if you really wanted to. It's a very short book.

>> No.21856051
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21856051

>>21856044
>a day is not time

>> No.21856055

>>21855805
But why read this and not just read livy?

>> No.21856078

>>21856027
most scholars say that it is more substantial than the prince which they consider as a summary of his political thought. machievelli himself stated that the prince was meant to be as an appetizer so it wouldnt put people off for being 900 pages

>> No.21856370

>>21856055
Because they talk about entirely different things. Machiavelli doesn't just copy Livy, he expresses his own thought modelled after Livy's work. It's like asking why read Plotinus instead of just reading Plato.

>> No.21856511

>>21856055
Machiavelli drew out the implicit conclusions in Livy's recount of Roman history

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21857701

>b-but you made me
lol trolled
besides picrel is better
and it comes with a video introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

>> No.21858063

So there's no way to read it before or without reading Livy's work?

>> No.21858182

>>21858063
>This nigga hasn't read livy lmaaoo

>> No.21858721

>>21857701
Holy reddit

>> No.21858728

>>21855805
>waste my time with The Prince
You didn't read it.

>> No.21858731

>>21858728
Sad projection

>> No.21858746

>>21858731
Maybe you did, but it didn't tell you how to be le bad reddit guy and now you're upset.

>> No.21858844

>>21858746
More embarrassing projection<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>