/pg/ philosophy general

[Anonymous No.21854110]

What is your doctrine and why?

[Anonymous No.21854289]

Positivity is violence. It drives achievement-subjects to overproduce, overachieve, and overcommunicate until burning out. Multitasking, hyperattention, and the constant stream of communication and information diminishes the ability of contemporary subjects to contemplate, see, and experience life. The forces driving burnout strip life to its vital functions, the pursuit of health without any meaning or purpose.

[Anonymous No.21854310]

>>21854110

[thefuckingcrowguy No.21854314]

>>21854289
This is the spirit of life. The fire of existence.

To burn away the edges of the universe and create sanctuary.

Don't be naive.

[Anonymous No.21854316]

>>21854289
I think you conflate positivity and overproductivity.

[thefuckingcrowguy No.21854318]

>>21854289
We've seen and experienced life for aeons.
We're tired of it.

Contemporise man.

[Anonymous No.21854321]

>>21854110
>From the moment when Man perceived the difference between himself and Nature, and thus commenced his own development as man, by breaking loose from the unconsciousness of natural animal life and passing over into conscious life, when he thus looked Nature in the face and from the first feelings of his dependence on her, thereby aroused, evolved the faculty of Thought, from that moment did Error begin, as the earliest utterance of consciousness.

>The path of Science lies from error to knowledge, from fancy ("Vorstellung") to reality, from Religion to Nature. In the beginning of Science, therefore, Man stands toward Life in the same relation as he stood towards the phenomena of Nature when he first commenced to part his life from hers. Science takes over the arbitrary concepts of the human brain, in their totality; while, by her side, Life follows in its totality the instinctive evolution of Necessity. Science thus bears the burden of the sins of Life, and expiates them by her own self−abrogation; she ends in her direct antithesis, in the knowledge of Nature, in the recognition of the unconscious, instinctive, and therefore real, inevitable, and physical. The character of Science is therefore finite: that of Life, unending; just as Error is of time, but Truth eternal. But that alone is true and living which is sentient, and hearkens to the terms of physicality (Sinnlichkeit). Error's crowning folly is the arrogance of Science in renouncing and contemning the world of sense (Sinnlichkeit); whereas the highest victory of Science is her self−accomplished crushing of this arrogance, in the acknowledgment of the teaching of the senses.

>The end of Science is the justifying of the Unconscious, the giving of self−consciousness to Life, the re−instatement of the Senses in their perceptive rights, the sinking of Caprice in the Want ("Wollen" ) of Necessity. Science is therefore the vehicle of Knowledge, her procedure mediate, her goal an intermediation; but Life is the great Ultimate, a law unto itself. As Science melts away into the recognition of the ultimate and self−determinate reality, of actual Life itself: so does this avowal win its frankest, most direct expression in Art, or rather in the Work of Art.

>The actual Art−work, i.e. its immediate physical portrayal, in the moment of its liveliest embodiment, is therefore the only true redemption of the artist; the uprootal of the final trace of busy, purposed choice; the confident determination of what was hitherto a mere imagining; the enfranchisement of thought in sense; the assuagement of the life−need in Life itself.

>The Art−work, thus conceived as an immediate vital act, is therewith the perfect reconcilement of Science with Life, the laurel−wreath which the vanquished, redeemed by her defeat, reaches in joyous homage to her acknowledged victor.

[sage No.21854330]

>>21854310
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.21854341]

>>21854330

Show me how it's done senpai

[Anonymous No.21854357]

Christianity without bigotry, ally friendly.

[Anonymous No.21854359]

>>21854289
Violence is good.

[Anonymous No.21854362]

>>21854310
>ywnb a cool spider with metal legs

[Anonymous No.21854364]

>>21854289
doesn't the Hell-baked essay by Nick Land retroactively debunk this?
>https://web.archive.org/web/20200203215527/http://www.xenosystems.net/hell-baked/

[Anonymous No.21854365]

giga midwit general

[Anonymous No.21854367]

>>21854110
https://pastebin.com/Y2vDggXq

[Anonymous No.21854410]

>>21854359
That's not the kind of "violence" you think it is, dumb /pol/tard

[Anonymous No.21854421]

>>21854110
I am Nietzschean, because I'm tired of weaklings holding back humanity.

[Anonymous No.21854541]

>>21854410
all violences are good, you are just being replaced by a superior extra-human intelligence

[Anonymous No.21855141]

>>21854421
That doesn't even make sense. If the strong are strong, they dominate the weak. But clearly these weak are le strong. At least for the moment.

[Anonymous No.21855328]

>>21854110
I am trying to get into Laruelle's non-philosophy but it is very hard to understand

[Anonymous No.21855394]

>>21855141
That’s one aspect of Nietzsche’s thought (as far as it is presented online, I haven’t read him yet beyond a few excerpts) I don’t understand. If some droog beats up some random member of the public for his phone, is this the triumph of the strong over the good? What if a physically weak yet intellectually powerful group of people managed to subvert another ‘stronger’ group? Who’s stronger in the scenario? And how far do we take disdain for pity? Should someone have drowned Nietzsche in a lake at the first sign of his syphilis-related deterioration?

[Anonymous No.21855434]

My doctrine is something I've dubbed Schizophrenic Elitism. It's the concept of hierarchy, mixed with the philosophy of George Berkeley and schizophrenia. I firmly believe that we should create hierarchies based on how schizophrenic someone is. This will create a stable societal system, as the concept of hierarchy creates stability in society, while the schizophrenia creates the dynamism needed for society to adapt to changes, by convincing those in charge that the economic crash is actually an alien code sent from another solar system, telling the Emperor-Wizard that he needs to cease his activities in politics, and become a Mongolian bagpipe player as part of the Heavenly Choir of the Holy Mayan Solar Temple.

I firmly believe this would create a utopian society, and there's nothing that can convince me otherwise

[Anonymous No.21855692]

>>21855141
You don't dominate anything, you just breed uncontrollably, consume to extinction and destroy yourselves with the world. You're as dominant as AIDS.

[Anonymous No.21855742]

>>21855692
>you just breed uncontrollably, consume to extinction and destroy yourselves with the world
>EXTINTION AND NIGGWORLD DESTROYED
Wtf now i love normalfags

[Anonymous No.21856059]

>>21855742
You are the niggers.

[Anonymous No.21856070]

Yesterday I proved the infinitude of the universe while showering:

The universe must be infinite. If it wasn’t it would be bounded but nothing (since by definition the universe is all there is). But if it’s bounded by nothing, it’s infinite.

[Anonymous No.21856099]

>>21856059
darwinists are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.21856118]

>>21854110
I’m a radical empiricist parmenidean peircean anti-logical neoconfucian tritheist duodirectional neoplatonist follower of wang bi and mencius inventor of the doctrine of media

[Anonymous No.21856131]

>>21856099
You're just mad since you wouldn't be alive, you genetic trash. Christcucks bred billions of subhumans, who now kvetch and demand equality and the world.

[Anonymous No.21856182]

>>21854110
Old school Christian, remember death and prepare for it, because nobody acknowledges anything other than impulse and there is no accountability to the point where if you display any you become a scapegoat for pathetic connivers

[Anonymous No.21856185]

>>21856131
lol have it all to your self dont care nigger fag.
people obsessed with their genes are weird fucks.

[Anonymous No.21856198]

>>21856070
It's bounded by your mom's fat ass

[Anonymous No.21856200]

>>21856131
>since you wouldn't be alive
?
i wouldn't be alive no matter what.
you think you're immortal by passing on genetic code?
even a perfect clone wouldn't be you, let alone a frankenstein son or a daughter.

[Anonymous No.21856219]

*BTFOs everyone who tries to debate him*

[Anonymous No.21856236]

>>21856219
>tradlarper
>great debater

Maybe a great masturbator, as in intellectual masturbator

[Anonymous No.21856243]

>>21856236
Not a larper. He genuinely knows what he is talking about and he is an expert in theology, philosophy, and conspiracies.

[Anonymous No.21856288]

>>21856243
Sounds like some bullshit sophist to me

[Anonymous No.21856296]

Christian (secret platonist) Aristotelian (also secret platonist).

[Anonymous No.21856303]

>>21856296
>Aristotelian (also secret platonist).
explain.

[Anonymous No.21856322]

>>21856303
It's a fun idea that was very prevalent in late antiquity.

[Anonymous No.21856326]

>>21854421
>that's why I post in 4chan
Average nietzschean ape.

[Anonymous No.21856475]

Is it normal for you guys to forget the systematic workings of a philosophy after a long time after having learned it so that only the conclusions and their implications really shine in your memory. Recently, I had to think a lot about Kant and I realized that I had forgotten about how he reached much of his conclusions. After a quick brush up I was fine, but thinking over more of it that’s a common thing for me.

[Anonymous No.21856482]

>>21854110
Dont take shit too seriously and have fun

[Anonymous No.21856489]

>>21854110
breeding.
my doctrine is to blindly follow my instincts and keep breeding new kids to piss off as many antinatalists as i can.

[philosophy BTFO No.21856497]

>philosophy general
who cares? it's just some gay motto to live by. i live in the REAL world, not some bullshit 'live and let live' doctrine

[Anonymous No.21856509]

>>21856497
oh yea? hows that real world doing for ya?

[Anonymous No.21856552]

>>21856475
Yes but only if I find major problems with the system. There isn't much of a point to remembering that much about the intricacies of the system when the system itself is ultimately garbage in terms of it's "proofs".
Take Spinoza's ethics for example. Ok, there is one substance with two known aspects, and there are these two types of infinite modes, and everything is deterministic, and there is a parallelism between the modes in the two aspects, etc. But the actual proofs are pretty much useless to remember because he conflates reason and causality in the very first axioms in the first book, which are fundamental to setting up the one substance.

[philosophy BTFO No.21856765]

>>21856509
a lot better than if i couldn't decide on whether the sun will come up tomorrow, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.21856928]

>>21856497
>>21856765
I would mald at people capable of understanding something I never could if I was doomed to eternal midwittery for the entirety of my one life as well pal.

[Anonymous No.21858327]

>>21856185
>>21856200
>>21856326
I would tell you to die out, but you're already going towards that direction.

[Anonymous No.21858334]

>>21854110
Baudrillard/Debord

[Anonymous No.21858342]

>>21858334
I often wondered what would happen if you just randomly put together two or three philosopher's main works.

Someone should combine Kant with de Maistre and Epictetus, and see what rolls out

[Anonymous No.21858362]

An ideology that combines the principles of Zen Buddhism and anarchism

[Anonymous No.21858951]

>>21854110
Hmmm…subjective value is the domain of Satan, everything should achieve maximum objectivity in all domains. Man should seek to become primal like in his golden age so he may become one with God. Reason and technology has driven man from the holy, and has cut himself off from the divine. We can see this in certain religions where there exists no divine bridge by way of a messianic figure so it’s adherents become wrapped up in the profane and nihilist.

[Anonymous No.21858953]

>>21858342
That’s just the WEF

[Anonymous No.21858980]

>>21856243
Lmao, you are either a goon at best or a midwit at worst if you think that guy's any good.

[Anonymous No.21859534]

>>21858362
Dark Buddhism?

[Anonymous No.21859709]

>>21854321
where is this from?

[Anonymous No.21860207]

>>21858327
so are you.

[Wendy Russo No.21860294]

>>21854110
Add Kant, Paolo Rossi Monti and Sexstus Empiricus<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

[Anonymous No.21860965]

>>21860294
what the fuck?
what is this new sorcery
just to make sure - kill yourself nigger-kike

[Anonymous No.21861032]

>>21856070
Mogged by Kant before you were even born.

[Anonymous No.21861134]

>>21854110
This is my doctrine because it's ______________

[Anonymous No.21861203]

>>21854110
>Criticising the Official Western Philosophy
Just like ‘art’, philosophy has its own porous limits. No one knows where it begins and where it ends. One must, on the other hand, acknowledge that unlike genuine philosophy, i.e. that of ancient Greece, Western philosophy has, save for a few notable exceptions, largely succumbed to the construction of ethereal and self-sufficient systems that remain disconnected from reality and especially from anthropology and the plain and simple observation of the laws of life. Despite its mystical character, Indian philosophy has not sunk into such shortcomings, since it is guided by a highly specific cosmic and polytheistic vision of things, one that is rooted in life itself—that of Hinduism.
What are we to think of Spinoza’s metaphysics, then? Brilliant theistic drivel with no connection to reality whatsoever. Unfortunately, Western mentalities have been influenced by unrealistic philosophical scholasticisms that are akin to constructions built on sand and often characterised by their extreme harmfulness.
In Heidegger’s case, his endless reflections on the meaning of Being are the least interesting part of his work, simply because no one knows what his point actually was (did he?) and because every exegete offers a different interpretation. With regard to Kant, the criticism of reason, the categorical imperative and the quest for a universal moral law have had disastrous effects by deifying universalistic egalitarianism and triggering an excessive secularisation of the Christian concept of universal charity. And don’t even get me started on that oddball of a Sartre or Merleau-Ponty, whose very discourse is hollow and whose sole purpose was to disseminate the worst ideological vulgates. And what damage has the self-righteous Genevan Rousseau done in his Émile, with his theory of anti-authoritarian education! And let us not forget Marx, whose utopianism, founded upon a misappropriation of science (‘dialectical materialism’) and epistemological deceitfulness, produced the results we are all familiar with.

Mengzi was right though :^)

[Anonymous No.21861246]

[Anonymous No.21862798]

>>21854110
https://youtu.be/Zo-IaTNZQ5o

[Anonymous No.21862833]

>>21854110
I have a headache, so I don't care about any philosophy right now.

[Anonymous No.21862961]

Someone should do atheism as a religion right for once. Asin, complete with a religious structure, evangelism, a holy text, rituals etc.

After all, not believing in God doesn't mean you can't be religious

[Anonymous No.21862976]

>>21862961
Atheism+
It was retarded.
There's also the informal religion of 'scientism' - or 'bugmanism' - trust the science™, Ifuckinglovescience™, progressivism etc.

[Anonymous No.21862983]

>>21862961
Already done by Marx, Engels and Lenin

[Anonymous No.21862984]

>>21862976
Those weren't proper religions, those are just reavtionary faggots whining about atheists.

No, someone should make a full blown, systematic religion based around atheism. Complete with a doctrine, rituals, the whole nine yards. I firmly believe that atheism would be far more respected if it was a systematic religious belief

[Anonymous No.21862989]

>>21862984
>atheists
>those are just reavtionary faggots whining about atheists
wut.

[Anonymous No.21862997]

>>21862989
I meant atheism+ and muh progressivism, those aren't atheism as a religion, that's just whiny reactionary rhetoric

[Anonymous No.21863109]

>>21862983
>>21862961
And add Feuerbach if you want an explicit contrast of humanism as religion to God.

[Anonymous No.21863115]

Optimism

Don't be a sad cunt, be a mad cunt

[Anonymous No.21863132]

>>21854110
Im trying to make my own now

[Anonymous No.21863134]

>>21854421
If weaklings have the power to hold back the whole of humanity, how are they "weaklings"? They sound pretty strong to me

[Anonymous No.21863496]

>>21862976
Atheism + is why I left atheism. Women are not equal to men and homosexuals deserved to get slaughtered

[Anonymous No.21863810]

>>21863496
good riddance, if you believed in KKK morality you weren't really an atheist in the first place

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.21864533]

Epicureanism + a sort of Nietzschean anarcho-communism. It intends to lay the groundwork for generations to bring about “Übermensch”. State-capitalism can only produce grubs.

>>21863496
Kill yourself, fragile little man.

>>21862961
Atheism is not a religion. To make it a religion is to not be an atheist. Like saying you believe in the science. Science must be continually tested. Atheism must be wary of misplaced trust.

[Anonymous No.21865127]

Pragmatist.

If your opinions don't change anything then they don't matter.

[Anonymous No.21865133]

>>21864533
I bet I could beat you in an ass raping contest. You are a petulant little nigger.

[Anonymous No.21865141]

>>21863810
Seethe

[Anonymous No.21865355]

In essence there are only two doctrines really, Philosophy and Sophistry

[Anonymous No.21865370]

I couldn't find worth in life without religion until I discovered Nietzsche. Still, I think religious people are better off than atheists considering most are pathetic, hedonistic nihilists.

[Anonymous No.21865965]

epicureanism
here for a good time not a long time