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Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:07:59 2023 No.21822490 [Reply] [Original]

>"this aristotle guy sounds like a real misogynist bigot, why do you like him so much anon?"
whats your response

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:12:27 2023 No.21822505

>>21822490
I can't image being pussy enough to actually let anyone talk to you this way. Anytime someone ever tried to virtue signal in front of me like this I dialed the aggressiveness in proportion to their arrogance and explained why they're retarded and they always come up with something like 'oh yeah I didn't mean in that way, just you know to think about it' or some other mumbling nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:14:58 2023 No.21822509 >>21822505 >I dialed the aggressiveness in proportion to their arrogance and explained why they're retarded Can you share what you said

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:18:18 2023 No.21822524 >>21822490 >"greetings from kazakhstan"

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:18:27 2023 No.21822525 Because there are no perfect apples in heaven you Platonist bitch.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:19:23 2023 No.21822530

>>21822509
It depends on what they say, but the aggressiveness is mostly in the tone and unrelentingly pointing out their stupidity. Mix intelligent points (which shouldn't be hard to make with such a lowbrow opposition) with punchy and crude insults like 'only the dumbest idiot in the world could think' and then gaslight them by adding complements if they're starting to regret what they said like 'I know you weren't serious, but some very stupid people are', etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:24:47 2023 No.21822544 >>21822530 enact what such a conversation would be like with OP's statement

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:25:12 2023 No.21822548 >>21822544 No.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:30:05 2023 No.21822571 chipotle > aristotle

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:30:50 2023 No.21822578 >>21822490 Depends on how attractive the girl is.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:35:22 2023 No.21822597

>>21822544
Not him, but I'd assume it's typical sophistics.
>Gosh, why would people support a demagogue?

>Right, because the point of democracy is that our politicians shouldn't support the people, right?
And no matter what they say you retort with sophisms. If they respond with something you can't quickly reply to, you do exactly as the Classical sophists and appeal to subjectivity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:36:47 2023 No.21822603 >>21822544 We're not your personal AI chatbot

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:38:20 2023 No.21822607 >>21822597 why reply with sophisms?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:41:46 2023 No.21822618 >>21822490 Start with the Greeks

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !Ry9RIEstm6 Thu Mar 23 23:44:25 2023 No.21822626 —YOU SOUND LIKE A TOXOPLASMA GONDII INFECTED MORON: WHY AM I WITH YOU?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:44:27 2023 No.21822627 >>21822490 How would a woman ever learn enough about Aristotle to even ask this question? Is he on insta now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:44:31 2023 No.21822628 >>21822603 go back

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:45:17 2023 No.21822629 File: 59 KB, 736x849, 859af748d1eed0d67d5801a6df188a89.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21822490 >Actually I prefer Plato

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:47:35 2023 No.21822632 >>21822607 Because he is not trying to achieve the absolute truth, he just want to persuade others and feel intellectually superior, like sophists in general.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:48:57 2023 No.21822639 >>21822632 why does he want to feel intellectually superior?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:49:37 2023 No.21822642 >>21822629 Umm... Sorry sweaty don't you know that's a bit problematic? Plato was homophobic and fascist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:56:08 2023 No.21822672 >>21822632 >Because he is not trying to achieve the absolute truth, You know this.. because?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:59:16 2023 No.21822677 >>21822490 Shut up and keep sucking.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:00:19 2023 No.21822683

>>21822672
He's definitely not trying to achieve the absolute truth, but as for trying to feel 'intellectually superior', maybe not. He's probably just tired of hearing leftist sophistry so he responds in kind. It's probably not worth it to have a four hour discussion on the absolute truth involved in government paid sex reassignment for prisoners.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:00:51 2023 No.21823033 >>21822530 that happened

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:03:15 2023 No.21823041 Hey, Aristotle. Quit stealing my moves!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:13:08 2023 No.21823070 File: 5 KB, 192x250, 1679621232023475s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21822629 >Ugh not again anon... you seriously need to stop reading old crusty dumb men

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:16:55 2023 No.21823085

>>21822683
It’s definitely not worth discussing so much as one minute with a leftist because they don’t believe in truth. Now don’t get me wrong, the right is not without its share of falsehoods, biases and everything else. Those are flaws shared by all humans. But at least conceptually the right believes in objective truths and rational discourse as a means of approaching said truths as an ideal goal. Not so the left. The left will use the name of truth as a rhetoric device, but they fundamentally don’t believe in it. They believe truth is conventional and the goal of discourse is trying to persuasion or exerting pressure by manipulating the public.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:18:33 2023 No.21823091 >>21823085 That's fair. Use their weapons against them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 04:27:10 2023 No.21823467 >>21822490 shut up, natural slave and keep fulfulling your natural ergon, trust me, it will make us both happy.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 04:29:36 2023 No.21823473

>talking to a normal nigger about Aristotle
>woah man this Aristotle guy is problematic because he supported slavery
>well he wasn't exactly talking about 18th ce united states slavery
>whatever man slavery is slavery
>mfw the normal nigger is exactly the natural slave Aristotle was talking about since they lack anything beyond the most rudimentary of reasoning capabilities

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:08:47 2023 No.21823708 >>21822490 What can I read to understand Aristotle? Been getting into more classic literature but dont know where to start with him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:14:23 2023 No.21823720 >>21823708 Nicomachean Ethics (Joe Sachs translation is good)

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:15:14 2023 No.21823725

>>21823708
You could start by reading nichomachean ethics. one of his most accessible works. Politics is another good one. If you want a secondary source you can read through articles by Thomas Aquinas in his summa theologica, he makes constant reference to him and makes him more readable in general

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:35:20 2023 No.21823770 >>21823720 >>21823725 I would like to go with primary sources when possible. I will have to check out the Thomas Aquinas though. Thanks for the reply guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:56:25 2023 No.21823802 >>21822578 It’s always a female usually and my answer is always “I don’t talk about matters that require cognition to women because that’s what women intrinsically lack. Have a nice day, toots”

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:57:26 2023 No.21823804 >>21823070 Need a better resolution so I can beat off

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:58:26 2023 No.21823808 >>21823725 I read the metaphysics and politics but not the ethics

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 06:59:56 2023 No.21823811 >>21822490 His polymathic intellect outshines the weakness of the flesh. One of the most brilliant minds humanity has ever produced, Aristotle's legacy is timeless and enduring and transcends the petty politics of any given cultural moment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:19:08 2023 No.21823868 >>21823811 >Aristotle's legacy You do know he was refuted right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:50:35 2023 No.21824226 >>21822490 If you read Aristotle, which I don't believe, and that was what you took away, there's no reason for us to speak to one another. Good day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:51:40 2023 No.21824230 I don't like him I find him boring and I think philosophy is a waste of time

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:57:58 2023 No.21824244 >>21823868 His metaphysics, his ethics pretty much remain unrefuted

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 11:16:14 2023 No.21824289 >>21823708 By Becker number. Skip Prior Analytics Book 1, Topics Books 2-7, Meterology Books 1-3, and all the following scientific works.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 11:20:28 2023 No.21824299 >>21824289 Read Simplicius's commentary when available. He is a window into the presocratics. Read Aquinas' commentary on Metaphysics. It's a difficult text and his interpretation was influential.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 11:26:08 2023 No.21824309 >i like him cause he's based

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 13:45:47 2023 No.21824701

>>21823808
Then do read the ethics. Very good at explaining one of Aristotle's most key points about a good life. In politics, he says the good life involves having good friends, but that's external. What about proper function do you have total control over? Aristotle's answer: virtue, your character, habit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:11:47 2023 No.21824789 >>21822603 yes you are

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:33:46 2023 No.21824845

>>21822490
Realistically I wouldn't associate myself with someone like this
But assuming I did my response would be something along the lines of "Well judging someone as simply good or bad is a rather strict and cruel worldview that belies the very spirit Aristotle stood for. Furthermore who are you to judge Aristotle as if you were an infallible paragon of humanity that had not already been deeply impacted by his thought from the moment you were born. Regardless this posturing against a man long dead for millennia can serve little purpose other than to sate an ego starved for self-righteous indignation."

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:37:33 2023 No.21824864 >>21822490 i hit the griddy and i freak it for the nation, you can out that on jah

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:49:15 2023 No.21824903 >>21823091 That day will come, when Emperor Selassie I shall rise di whole a di ghetto yute dem from outta di slum, I shall ride out pon di wings of the heavens inna di sun.

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