Bible reading in April

[Anonymous No.21817765]

This thread is to propose a reading of the Old Testament during the month of April. I will post the schedule in the next post and we can discuss it.

But really before even thinking about starting this I really want to avoid this becoming a shitshow. I want to discuss the writing style(s) of the books, favorite or impactful moments you encounter, historical context, ethics presented, differences between the translations (in English or other languages, I myself will be reading it in another language) or between the different denominations. I really want to avoid meme pics in OP or atheists pointing out religion is fake or fanatics bitching how this or that is heretical. It would be wonderful if we could keep this relatively civil and respectful.

So if you want to take part in this (even if you've read it already and just want to read the threads) or have suggestions, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.21817767]

This is the schedule. I've separated the Old Testament in four major parts, giving each one week to read and discuss (except the first part is a bit longer). Let me know if this seems like a lot of pages, maybe we can push it to month and a half or even two months if you're feeling incredibly lazy.

[Anonymous No.21817771]

OP's pic looks like a brown gorilla if you squint your eyes or take off your glasses

[Anonymous No.21817773]

[Anonymous No.21817875]

>>21817765
you know what, I'm in, OP
but stand assured that the resident troons will screech and ruin every single thread

[Anonymous No.21817882]

I've been meaning to do a total re-read recently so I'd be in, although the schedule looks a bit much for me. I could read a book a day but I don't know about 100 pages a day.

[Anonymous No.21817918]

>>21817875
>transsexuals disagreeing with me means skydaddy is real
Do better.

[Anonymous No.21817926]

Robert Alter is the best translation at caption the style as well as best commentary for literary purposes

[Anonymous No.21817929]

I'm from MENA and never read the bible before, which version should i downloaded preferably in french or english. thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.21817948]

>>21817765
How long would it take if we read one hour per day?

[Anonymous No.21817969]

>>21817948
The Old Testament is 622 700 words (obviously varies a bit among translations and also depends if it's Orthodox/Catholic/Protestant).
Average reading speed is 15000 words per hour.
So it would take around 40 days with 1 hour of reading a day.

[Anonymous No.21817989]

>>21817969
I will probably start reading it. This is not something I want to rush, so I can't tell when I'll finish it, but I doubt I will follow your 1 month reading plan

[Anonymous No.21817996]

>>21817765
Was getting around to reading it again so count me in. See you April 1st

[Anonymous No.21818005]

The Old Testament is not meant to be read front to back. The Old Testament is not meant to be read in just one month.

[Anonymous No.21818010]

>>21818005
How was it meant to be read?

[Anonymous No.21818122]

>>21818005
Why not? The Pentateuch is effectively one book, and the legal and ritual portions can be skimmed, making it a short book. The History books effectively make up one, medium-length book. The Wisdom literature is like a medium-length anthology of essays. The minor prophets you can read really quickly. Apocrypha is another medium-length book, mostly due to Maccabees.

[Anonymous No.21818142]

>>21817765
Moses can suck my dick knigga

[Anonymous No.21818272]

I recently uncovered the Bible that I was given in 2007 with the intent to finally read it, so it'll be cool to have a dedicated thread for discussion.

[Anonymous No.21818302]

OP here.
Cool, I see some of you guys are up for this idea. I'll start a couple of other threads in the remaining days to just get the word A CROSS (lmao, get it? I'm so tired, you guys.)

[Anonymous No.21818334]

>>21817765
Just read by yourself, why do you need a group?

[Anonymous No.21818346]

I don't read the jewish parts of the bible. It should be an appendix in the back of the bible to give the new testament and teachings of christ some context.

Thatt's a big no from me

[Anonymous No.21818364]

>>21818334
Because it's fun. The group readings of Moby Dick and Don Quixote were fun.

[Anonymous No.21818413]

>>21817918
Yep.
Also, YWNBAW.

[Anonymous No.21818426]

>>21818346
>I don't read the jewish parts of the bible.
Anon...

[Anonymous No.21818792]

Week 2 looks rough but i'll try to keep pace with you OP, have been meaning to read the OT for awhile.

[Anonymous No.21818853]

>>21817765
>>21817767

I think this is a very aggressive schedule. It certainly looks doable just by page numbers, but my pace going through the OT was much slower than my normal reading pace. Best of luck to everyone trying this, actually reading the bible is a great experience.

[Anonymous No.21818860]

>>21818413
>>21818615

[Anonymous No.21818955]

Bible's art is kino. Is the bible kino too?

[Anonymous No.21818977]

>>21817765
I'm in

[Anonymous No.21819035]

>>21817929
KJV translated
It’s a good read just a lot of names at first but the stories are simply awe inspiring, taking notes doesn’t hurt

[Anonymous No.21819044]

>>21818122
>The Pentateuch is effectively one book
Except it's not. Aside from being literally five separate books, the name itself means five books. Retard.

[Anonymous No.21819065]

>>21817771
>looks like a brown gorilla if you squint your eyes or take off your glasses

[Anonymous No.21819138]

>>21817929
I'm also from MENA.

I already started reading the bible and I'm well-nigh done with the Pentateuch... I suggest the KJV translation (1611) that is the one I read.

[Anonymous No.21819198]

>>21819044
Were you so excited to show off that you know what Pentateuch means that you forgot to think? The entire point of the post is that the stated sections can be treated AS IF they are books, to break it up into chunks, and make it easier to conceive of reading it in a month. "Effectively":
>used to convey that something is the case in practice even if it is not formally acknowledged to be so.

Why am I explaining this to someone? This is like explaining what a conjunction is. If someone needs it explained, they're too far gone.

[Anonymous No.21819489]

>>21817767
>>21817765
I'll join you guys. Looks fun! I'm in NYC if anyone wants to actually meet up to discuss feel free.

[Anonymous No.21819528]

>>21817765
Yeah I'll do it. I need to read the Old Testament anyways if I'm every going to make sense of half the stuff I want to read.

[Anonymous No.21819531]

>>21817765
I'm down, I've been planning to read it but never gotten around to it. Very excited, thanks OP

[Anonymous No.21819539]

If anyone is too lazy to even read, you can follow along with one of two excellent KJV audiobooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiXQmeuHTOY
or Scourbie's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgFT_IxwJJY

[Anonymous No.21819551]

>>21817765
I will join. I'm going to read the Bible anyone at some point so I might as well do it and get some outsider's perspective.

[Anonymous No.21819555]

>>21819551
anyway*

[Anonymous No.21819565]

>>21817765
.>appropriating Islamic custom in order to larp as a christian
Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.21819566]

>>21817765
kike

[Anonymous No.21819814]

April brainwashing

God isn't real

Grow up

And fuck Santa, too

/thread

[Anonymous No.21819844]

>>21817765
Can you jew worshippers fuck off to /his/? You bring this boards IQ down with your desert fiction garbage.

[Anonymous No.21820054]

>>21817765
But it is still Lent. You should be focusing on the New Testament and Christ.

[Anonymous No.21820060]

>>21820054
>You should be focusing on the New Testament and Christ.
I've been killing evangelical protestants infected with Methody all month. Their bodies will start washing up soon. I am going to make them press me. WAT TYLER.

[Anonymous No.21820067]

How larpy

[Anonymous No.21820084]

>>21820060
I am a Catholic, brother. You have lost your mind.

[Anonymous No.21820137]

>>21820084
nta or a catholic. whats catholicism like?

[Anonymous No.21820140]

>>21820084
>You have lost your mind.
Show me in the NT where Christ talks about minds like a fucking buddhist. We shall build a new Jerusalem here on this dark satanic mill. And defend it against how ever many Legions Rome sends against us. Except this time I am going to torture Josephus to death.

[Anonymous No.21820251]

>>21820067
It's just reading a book, bro. Relax.

[Anonymous No.21820665]

>>21820137
>whats catholicism like?
An anti-depressant for the soul that not only works but it is infinitely true. In fact, I summarized it before becoming Catholic as, "Everyone wants to be Catholic but no one wants to become Catholic." Thus:
>>21819565
>>21819566
>>21819814
>>21819844
Are just all misery slaves of Satan. They're basically chaste BDSM slaves to him. Nothing wrong with being a good slave but man is it pathetic when God offers friendship.

[Anonymous No.21820851]

>>21817765
I'll join. But you better keep the threads up and going. And I will be asking lots of questions and for explanations for almost everything I come across.

[Anonymous No.21821015]

>>21817767
where is the Epistle of Jeremiah in the Catholic Bible? Was it excluded? Or is it included in another book?

[Anonymous No.21821016]

>>21817767
the Bible in a month? If you wanna just read it all and go around telling the hot chicks at your youth group you read it all that's fine. But for a better understanding of the Bible you should take some time, and maybe read some additional literature to understand the context and history behing each book

[Anonymous No.21821020]

>>21820665
I love how zealous converts constantly reveal that they‘re porn addicts on leave and it never takes more than the span of a post.

[Anonymous No.21821023]

>>21821016
What other books do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.21821036]

>>21821023
I don't have a list, but there is plenty of exegetical lit that could help you out in understanding the different Bible books as you read them, both religious and non-religious

[Anonymous No.21821082]

>I love
You don't love anything.
>how zealous converts
Redundant but cute.
> constantly reveal
Your reading is not revealing but it's unsurprising words are just tools for you mediocre venom.
>that they‘re porn addicts on leave
Sick burn but the cuteness here is simple: "I serve satan daddy and you will too." What you do not know you have conceded, in the depths of your little insult which I forgive your slavish soul for uttering, is that 1) porn is bad, 2) addiction to the bad is worse, and 3) converts are temporary and as such you admitted not that you are correct but that there is good and bad and which side you are loyal too. What a good servant.
>and it never takes more than the span of a post
Meaningless and redundant that is just you feeling pride at your satan simping insult. Repent and believe the Gospel.

[Anonymous No.21821247]

>>21817765
>Be fruitful and multiply.
>Have as many concubines as you want.
>Nevermind, i changed My mind, you can only have one wife now, because I am eternal and My mind never changes.
>I created you naked with a foreskin, so now i command you to cut off your foreskin and wear clothes, because i made you PERFECT except for that.
>I also demand blood sacrifices, and lots of it, because i am a loving and merciful god that enjoys the smell and taste of blood. Not like those other pagan satanic gods that also enjoy the smell and taste of blood. Nothing like them at all. Totally different.
>Oh, and the Serpent in the Garden has nothing to do with the Serpent that Moses worshiped in the desert. Nope, nothing, just stop noticing patterns and worship me with blood sacrifices!

[Anonymous No.21821328]

>>21821247
Satan gives you 1 meaningless night of steak dinners for this post.

[Anonymous No.21821367]

>>21821328
>Satan
you're worshiping Satan, the Serpent in the Garden, the Serpent of Moses, the demonic entity that likes blood sacrifices and enjoys cannibalism rituals
>eat of my flesh and drink of my blood, this is totally normal and not satanic at all! pinky swear!

[Anonymous No.21821394]

as predicted ths instantly turned into a shitshow
trannies simply cannot allow it

[Anonymous No.21821398]

>>21821394
We should make a rule, no responding to the trannies. We should also be respectful toward non-Christians who just want to read for literary reasons, so they don't accidentally align with the trannies. I don't want to proselytize, I just want to read an important book with /lit/.

[Anonymous No.21821411]

>>21821394
Are these trannies in the room with you right now anon

[Anonymous No.21821437]

>>21821367
So what do you worship then?

[christcuck !BRtcYR7eHM No.21821447]

>>21821394
>trannies simply cannot allow it
Trannies are celibate priests to satan and basically these people who attack the Holy Bible will always be in the threads. Just ignore them and I'll take care of them.

[Anonymous No.21821605]

>>21821437
well certainly not some entity that likes the smell of blood or tells worshipers to have mock cannibalism rituals

[Anonymous No.21821608]

>>21820665
Invisible friends are for losers.

[Anonymous No.21821748]

>>21817767
Reading the whole Torah in one month seems like a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.21822892]

>>21817765
Can we stretch it out to 1.5 - 2 months instead of 1 month? I don't think my current schedule can accommodate the proposed plan.

[Anonymous No.21822953]

>>21817929
I personally recommend the New Revised Standard Version. See picrel.
It's got a lot of commentary and cross-references, i.e. it's considered a "study bible".
It's free on archive.org, too.

[Anonymous No.21822967]

Marcion Of Sinope is the guy who assembled the first version of the Christian Bible, from a bunch of separate books that were floating around at the time.
On top of being a proto-Christian, he was a Gnostic.
He deliberately set out to portray the God of the Old Testament as the Demiurge, and Jesus as the true God.
The Christian holy book is a Ghostic text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope

[Anonymous No.21822996]

I just wanna read Genesis 19 over and over again:
[30] And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
[31] And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
[32] Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[33] And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[34] And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our Father.
[35] And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[36] Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

[Anonymous No.21824132]

>>21822892
It's probably going to happen naturally if many people can't keep up.

[Anonymous No.21824610]

Man, double column spacing ruins Proverbs, nevermind how ugly and broken it makes the verse.

>>21817929
ESV has the best scholarship and remains essentially literal while also retaining some of the majesty of the KJV (I still have some issues with both). ESV for reference and KJV for understanding the role it had in English literature.

[Anonymous No.21824646]

>>21817765
Just finished Josue lads

[Anonymous No.21824656]

>>21817767
What's /lit/'s recommended Orthodox bible that contains the most books?

[Anonymous No.21824872]

>>21824656
Aren't they all the same?

[Anonymous No.21824916]

>>21821082
Most stable basket case attempting to hide that they need a jewish cult to keep them halfway decent

[Anonymous No.21826815]

bump

[Anonymous No.21826860]

>>21817765
I'm absoutely in, OP. I wanted to finally start the Western Canon somehow, and that was a priority along with the Greeks. I will definitely join!
And to all the trannies ITT:

[Anonymous No.21828519]

Bumping this thread from page 10, you lazy boys.

[Anonymous No.21828535]

>>21828519
No one cares about your forced book club all for the sake of not feeling lonely for a while. These retarded projects always start with a handful of retards that peter out into the main organizer within two weeks, tops. Go get a clue, and find better ways to connect with other humans.

[Anonymous No.21828539]

will /lit/ jannies allow it? they were cracking down on the bible generals a while back.

[Anonymous No.21828550]

>>21828535
Why do you choose to be like that?

[Anonymous No.21828966]

>>21828539
>>21828535
Wasn't this exact kind of thing done with neoplatonism and the enneads recently? How did that work out in the end?

[Anonymous No.21829145]

>>21824916
>need a jewish cult to keep them halfway decent
Plato laments that most people are not capable of true Good nor Evil because then they would all love the Good. Huh.

[Anonymous No.21829149]

>>21821605
Oh so you worship nothing? Impressive. Another enlightenment figure slaving away through bitterness, ignorance, and pride has graced another thread. I am shocked.

[Anonymous No.21829502]

>>21819844
>jew worshippers
You trannies cut your dicks off then call people genetically matching with anyone but the jews, jews?

[Anonymous No.21829520]

>>21824916
your favourite jewish cult of atheism isnt keeping anyone decent

[Anonymous No.21831024]

>>21817771
>OP's pic looks like a brown gorilla if you squint your eyes or take off your glasses

this is yoir brain on atheismslop

[Anonymous No.21831056]

>>21824656
In English? Orthodox Study Bible

[Anonymous No.21831194]

>>21828535
This website's entire point is connecting with other humans about shared interests in an open forum in which the community decides what stays and what doesn't.

[Anonymous No.21831272]

>>21828966
We read the entire thing, and finished on schedule.

[Anonymous No.21832423]

>>21817765
>>21817767
>Bible reading
>No NT

[Anonymous No.21832554]

>>21829149
>if you don't worship a demon entity that likes the smell of blood or has you engage in mock cannibalism rituals, then you don't worship anything.
religion has rotted your critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous No.21832560]

>>21831024
>i can't wait till sunday when i get to pretend to eat Jesus's flesh
>cannibalism is so cool!

[Anonymous No.21832593]

Can't wait for this to start, what a comfy idea. I was reading the Corpus Hermeticum and Apocryphon of John today too.

[Anonymous No.21833147]

>>218177
Let's do this anon

[Anonymous No.21833322]

>>21832423
We can always do the New Testament immediately after that or later this year. No need to add another 300 pages to an already pretty demanding schedule.

[Anonymous No.21833330]

>>21817767
>reading the OT in a month
Lmao

[Anonymous No.21833331]

>>21817767
This is a recipe for disaster. You need a month just for each of the books of the Torah.

[Anonymous No.21833341]

>>21831272
Any suggestions from that experience on this one?

[Anonymous No.21833347]

Based on many of the replies, maybe we should extend the time a bit? One month seems unfeasible to allow for sufficient digestion of the material, not to mention keeping up with the threads on 4chan. I've a separate study guide to supplement my reading of the Bible that I like to refer to as well. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.21833352]

>>21833330
>>21833331
>o no, 40 pages a day is too much, most I can do is 2 pages

[Anonymous No.21833361]

OP here, cast your preference in the link whether you want the schedule to be this >>21817767 or to make each segment 2 weeks instead of 1.

https://strawpoll.com/polls/XOgONQlPXn3

[Anonymous No.21833370]

>>21833352
Torah is more than just another book for you to speed read and add to your good reads list. It has the words of spirit and life. You can slow down to appreciate the words and life of the Torah (and the writings and histories) instead of attempting to read all of it in as little time as possible.

[Anonymous No.21833376]

>>21833370
Or perhaps consider medications.

[Anonymous No.21833431]

>>21824656
Ethiopian Orthodox canon has the most books, I don't know if there are any good printings of it though.

[Anonymous No.21833434]

>>21817765
>really want to avoid meme pics in OP or atheists pointing out religion is fake or fanatics bitching how this or that is heretical. It would be wonderful if we could keep this relatively civil and respectful.
Remarkably hugbox'y for an adherent of a religious tradition of causing war and conflict and general strife for everyone it can reach. Trouble elsewhere is fine. Not in your back yard!

[Anonymous No.21833463]

>>21833434
>for an adherent of a religious tradition
But I'm not.

[Anonymous No.21833469]

>>21817767
2 Maccabees is in the Catholic bible

[Anonymous No.21833474]

>>21832554
>I can't see colors and blue is ugly
This is someone without a religion criticizing a religion. Dispicable. Pray. Repent.

[Anonymous No.21833493]

>>21833469
Thanks, it will be included next time this schedule is posted.

[Anonymous No.21833505]

>>21817765
I have read the whole bible AMA.

[Anonymous No.21833515]

>>21817767
About the catholic canon
>4kings
Fuck is that? There are two kings
>1 macabees
There are two macabees
>1 ester
There are two ester translations of ester in the catholic canon
>
One nehemia and one ezdra

[Anonymous No.21833533]

>>21833352
From a personal perspective, i was speedriding fantasy novels (500 pages a day, finished the first law trilogy in about a week) while the bible took me 3 years to finish whole and i couldn't go above 10 pages a day (except psalms)

[Anonymous No.21833550]

>>21833515
I used this chart for reference, it says that it has 1-2-3-4 Kings in the Catholic bible.

In any case, this is not that important, because it's broken down by sections, so you'd be reading all of them and it won't matter if it's called Kingdoms/Kings/Samuel.

[Anonymous No.21833765]

>>21833376
you know I’m right

[Anonymous No.21833770]

>>21833765
I know you're mentally disturbed and possible severely autistic.

[Anonymous No.21833778]

>>21817765
Currently listening through the CCB translation of the bible in Chinese on audiobook for practice.
>I'm a professional translator but I don't get much listening practice

[Anonymous No.21834614]

>>21833341
Takes notes and post them in the thread to bump the thread and get people talking. And don't reply to bait.

[Anonymous No.21835532]

>>21833770
>still nothing substantial to say

[Anonymous No.21835954]

bump

[Anonymous No.21836125]

I've been *slowly* reading the KJV from Genesis 1:1, and have reached the part in Exodus after the Israelites leave Egypt when Moses & Aaron bring 72 other elders/nobles of the Hebrews up the mount to literally MEET GOD.

9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

EXODUS 24:9-18

9
>Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

10
>And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

11
>And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

12
>And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

13
>And Moses rose up, and his minister Joshua: and Moses went up into the mount of God.

14
>And he said unto the elders, Tarry ye here for us, until we come again unto you: and, behold, Aaron and Hur are with you: if any man have any matters to do, let him come unto them.

15
>And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.

16
>And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.

17
>And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

18
>And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

...let's look at this part again:

EXODUS 24 : 9 - 11

9
>Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

10
>And THEY *SAW* THE GOD of Israel: and there was UNDER HIS *FEET* as it were a PAVED work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his CLEARNESS.

11
>And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

Wow. Whoa. What's going on here? Seventy-plus guys *SEE* God, hang out and have a feast in his presence, safe & sound despite how the very sight of God has struck people dead, and even His reflection or refraction can be too much to stand. God "laid not His hand" upon these assembled nobles of his chosen people, and had some sort of blue see-through glass under his feet. Was he standing upon a transparent sky-blue floor, or reclined with his feet upon some sort of clear hassock or footstool? If he's standing on something like a glass floor, are the elders looking *up* at him, *through* the transparent floor, and seeing the soles of His mighty feet? (inb4 foot) Was he standing on the firmament? On *top* of the great glass dome?

[Please pay attention to this post if Orthodox No.21836554]

>>21824656
Lexham English Septuagint, OSB doesn't actually have everything, and the translations are universally not good. Even the Lexham English Septuagint has some rough spots. For Psalms, I would recommend purchasing Holy Transfiguration Monastery's Psalter, and for books like Job, you should probably just read the KJV. Everything else in the Lexham English Septuagint is great though. I've been reading it since End of Feb and have made it to Psalms thus far. Hoping to have it finished by Pascha.
Blessed Lent brotha

[Anonymous No.21836678]

>>21817765
This is my personal view, which I'm open to change:
>The Sapiential Books (including Ecclesiasticus and Wisdom) are the only ones are worth reading in their own right
>The rest of the OT is mostly there to give context to the NT, and the Early Church Fathers
Tell me if and why it's wrong.

[Anonymous No.21836766]

>>21836678
NT can be construed as greek nonsense and fanfiction with the right translation that renders the greek used as shitty and GSL as it was written. The whole thing has been fluffed up in english, the original greek and hebrew and reads differently with more careful translations outside of the usual suspects. Torah is full of narrative, verse and wisdom that has layers of interpretation far beyond that of secondhand quotes and a bunch of letters from people who weren't even there; it's a better series of books all around. I don't even have a horse in either race and the NT is only sufficient for those that really, really fucking want it to be. One would expect 20 volumes of dense philosophical language instead of a few scant quotes, or at least a Koran, from such a claim.

I'd at least read an autistically hellenistic and iconoclastic translation like David Bentley Hart before making such a claim.

[Anonymous No.21836908]

>>21833361
Hey anon,

I’m down for this, sounds like a lot of fun! I’ve been going through the gospels and I’d love the chance to acquaint myself with the Old Testament.

Would it be a bad idea to recommend maybe making a discord or something as an additional venue of communication? That way we could dump additional recources as we find them. Just a thought.

Look forward to seeing this take off!

[Anonymous No.21836919]

>>21836678
You have to supplement the NT with a lot of Greek philosophy.

[Anonymous No.21836926]

>>21833515
>>21833550
That’s based off of the Douay Rheims and pre-V2 bibles, which courced their names directly from Greek and Latin texts. Modern Catholic Bible Translations use the KJV names for books.

[Anonymous No.21837126]

>>21836908
>Would it be a bad idea to recommend maybe making a discord or something as an additional venue of communication?
>Hey guys, let's take this 4chan idea and move it over to not 4chan and do it there instead

[Anonymous No.21837183]

Bump

[Anonymous No.21837212]

>>21837126
it's a good idea you retard

[Anonymous No.21837469]

>>21837212
Thank you, but he does have a fair point. I’ll join anything that’s created, but otherwise I can understand staying on 4chan. — anyways, I have some sources I can send OP’s way if he should like. I am pretty excited: I’m gonna finish the gospels and read de Lubac/Stott to prepare.

[Anonymous No.21837505]

>>21837469
If you have some sources, you can upload them to mega or another site you prefer and post the link in the thread for anyone not just OP to download.
Multiple people can also toss links for download too and whoever makes threads can toss them all at the top for anyone that reads the thread.

[Anonymous No.21837509]

>>21818955
the kino of all kino

[Anonymous No.21838130]

>>21836908
I disagree with the discord proposal. In 2020 I was the leader of a fun thread-by-thread community on 4chan, and as soon as a discord was created it went to shit. The anonymity is on 4chan for a reason, and it's better we don't have numerous tripfags.

[Anonymous No.21838193]

>>21838130
Yeah thinking discord works is naive idealism, and when it does work it takes all discussion off-site and off the archives. Less committed randos chiming in because they have some hot takes and hard facts is what makes discussion here worthwhile. I'd probably be kicked for presenting entire books worth of heterodox but still rather mainstream exegesis, or just pointing out translation errors and linguistic drift that makes passages not mean what entire sects have taken them to mean.

I also think those most equipped for higher level literary analysis and effortposting aren't entirely committed to full study. I've done it a few times with other topics and you end up playing Professor, having to teach 100 level concepts in a 500 level course.

[Anonymous No.21838258]

>>21836919
The Bible is a Greek math textbook

[Anonymous No.21838824]

>>21837505
>>21838130
>>21838193
As I’ve already said, I agree it’s dumb and I retract my statement. Not sure what the last anon was going off about but upon reflection I can agree it’s best to keep this here.

I’ll need to figure out how mega works exactly, but once I find it I’ll start downloading stuff into it. In the meantime, here’s a useful website of commentaries I found a while back: https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/

[Anonymous No.21838973]

>>21838258
Euclid can't keep getting away with it

[Anonymous No.21839082]

>>21838824
Oh, I've been kicked from other groups for going against the party line and presenting actual facts and extensive jewish exegesis. Not even schizo gnostic tier (for the most part), just "the bible has been heavily redacted by various groups in power and these books and chapters are indicative of divergent lines of thought" tier. Or "that's fucking pun in Hebrew, this is the setup for a joke" tier. Non- and pseudo-christians bring a lot of valid observations to the table that range between heterodox and heretical and they get drowned out in closed discourse.

I also have some thoughts on historiography and textual analysis but I'm not too well versed on it myself, so that's neither here nor there.

Also, when doing open analyses, there are usually only 1 or 2 anons pretty much dragging everyone else along because they're the only ones who have done extensive scholarship before and have the academic chops. We used to have some grad level anons who knew authors inside and out while everyone else was making grade school observations and had zero familiarity with the contemporary corpus around it.

[Anonymous No.21839105]

>>21839082
>be amerimutt mew ageist gnostic larper
>basically be schizo
>think he knows better than church fathers
classic

[Anonymous No.21839165]

>>21839105
I have some orthodox and oriental leanings and enjoy Quietism even though I'm not a transcendentalist, I'm more firmly rooted in nondualism. I wouldn't be adverse to some Cainite or Ophidian gnosticism as a thought experiment but find the neoplatonists to be a bunch of nuts in general and Aristotle to be a bore, specifically. I wouldn't call myself a gnostic.

[Anonymous No.21839203]

Why are there so many believers, why do people believe in god? Humans lived for thousands of years in tribes whose members decorated their houses with the skulls of their slain enemies believe this close him to gods, and any natural phenomena were explained by the gods kindness/anger. They passed on their genes mainly to those who willingly believed in all this garbage and the brain secreted the necessary substances, those who did not believe were expelled / killed by members of the tribe, because for the most part people then poorly understood the theory of games, manipulation and openly spoke about what they thought. Formed literally part of the brain responsible for "believe to mystically/god", which is probably closely intertwined with emotions, so that is responsible for the hierarchy / rank / subordination. Perhaps it is also closely intertwined with the fear of death.

Believe is purely genetic

Religion is a political and socio-economic project with a backlog for millennia ahead
Abrahamic religions - a political and socio-economic project of the most ancient Jewish elite patrons

Atheism is a mutation that has recently emerged by the standards of evolution, such as psychopathy.

A psychopath can turn empathy on and off at will, see the world under both poles.

An atheist can turn on and off thoughts about God and faith at will.

Agnosticism is neither higher nor more perfect than atheism, it is lower, it is a transitional degree from faith to atheism. The part of the brain responsible for faith has significantly weakened, but it still sends signals, because the agnostic still thinks, sometimes fears about what will happen after death.

[Anonymous No.21839250]

>>21839165
yup, confirmed schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.21839263]

There has to be some rule for not responding at all to either the anti-Christian whiners or the bickering LARPer Christians who just want an excuse to fight with an atheist. Please put in the OPs that nobody interested in doing the readings should reply to any shitposts, even to call them retarded.

[Anonymous No.21839264]

>>21820137
you just sort of feel guilt all the time

[Anonymous No.21839269]

>>21838130
Every single person who uses discord is a mentally ill tripfag, it is an egregore that is only psychically tolerable to troons or troon-adjacent proto-troons. Hosting anything on discord is like hosting it in the middle of a pride parade, it's asking for trouble.

[Anonymous No.21839274]

>>21820137
Read the Space trilogy by CS Lewis, it's like that. Canticle for Leibowitz is good too. And Orthodoxy by Chesterton, and anything by Belloc.

[Anonymous No.21839299]

>>21839263
Religion is /pol/zog/. Please go away from this desk.