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21802885 No.21802885 [Reply] [Original]

why is the horror genre so fucking weak?

>> No.21802893

Cancel culture and sensitivity readings that censor works before they come out. Can’t scare anyone if you can’t offend them.

>> No.21802919

>Can’t scare anyone if you can’t offend them.
I'm not arguing your post at large but this is not true.

>> No.21802924

because you're sitting in a cozy armchair reading the book with the lights on. sneak into a ghetto alley at 1am, strip naked, and try reading the book with an almost-dead flashlight.

>> No.21802927

Literature just isn't a good medium for inducing fear since language is processed through the prefrontal cortex, the seat of higher order abstract thinking, while fear is part of the reptilian brain and is more coupled with raw sensory input (particularly sight and smell). A movie can scare you. A book, not so much.

Books are better at inducing dread however since that is a more prefrontal emotion.

>> No.21802944

Horror is genre fiction and the best horror transcends that

Frankenstein isn't just a horror story.

When you look at the list of horror that is considered real literature, it's always literature first and using elements of horror within it.

>> No.21802961

what if I'm in an all-white mormon neighborhood, will it still work?

>> No.21802968

and none of them are scary, absolutely pathetic

>> No.21802970

how are you supposed to get scared from a book its in your head you have to imagine the scary stuff have you tried scaring yourself you can't also nothing is more scary than the cursed friendless gfless jobless material reality you live in, so theres that too

>> No.21802972

Hp lovecraft, edgar allen poe, stephen king, the list goes on!

>> No.21802982

Imo you’re approaching horror wrong, horror as a Genre has more lineage out of decadent and symbolist and ultimately romantic lit than people give it credit, many of the great horror writers aren’t writing to scare you but instead are trying to create a very ornate supernatural aesthetic, the middle ground is ghost story writers who were based in the concept of the ghost story yes, but often wanted to fill it with a scholarly aura, a very ivory tower nature. That’s not just weird fiction dudes but the top guys in ghost story writing like MR James.

With this in mind I think you’d find much of value in the short fiction of Blackwood, Mr James, Gilchrist, la fanu, of course Poe, Machen and Ambrose Bierce. You’ll definitely find excellent writing.

>> No.21803038

It's a refuge for bad writers

>> No.21803045

What makes you say this? There's some great horror authors, if you dig, I love Philip fracassi

>> No.21803090

To be scared by reading about ghosts or monsters you have to be either retarded or a colossal faggot

>> No.21803119

>have you tried scaring yourself you can't
I disagree

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>> No.21803135

What’s the most frightened you’ve ever been in real life and what were the circumstances around it? Greentext us little dude

>> No.21803145

>the only white boi in a black neighborhood

>> No.21803162

So basic fear for your safety? That’s it? No existential dread, just scared you’d get your shit pushed in? Sounds kinda pathetic desu

>> No.21803163

Dude, thugborea is an erotic reality.

>> No.21803164

Horror is extremely challenging regardless of how it's presented.

>> No.21803166

This is true. Horror is about "what is there but shouldn't be". To even talk about something that "shouldn't be" besides nazis isn't allowed. Thus another dead genre.

>> No.21803179

real life is more horrifying than any shit some guy could write

>> No.21803327

Try some shit from the dark web.

>> No.21803331

You’re just out of touch, or getting your worldview from the internet instead of actually reading what’s published these days. This isn’t true at all, does anyone here actually read?

>> No.21803344

You're out of touch, i'm out of time.

>> No.21803561

What makes it to print is watered down. Censored before publication or even self-censored by authors (sad but true). If you don’t recognize the shift in content, you haven’t been reading very long or are inattentive. Or cool with the change.

>> No.21803584

Offending sensibilities is highly effective in raising tensions. If you can’t do that, the work is less effective.

>> No.21804842

F. Gardner

>> No.21804851

because fear is a reaction, and is diluted or outright negated by being processed, and by reading it, you're automatically processing it.

>> No.21804871

>read a horror book
>no jump scares
why is it always like that

>> No.21804874

Because genre fiction is harder than regular fiction.

>> No.21804879

Books can't be scary.

>> No.21804883

The last really good horror story I read was The Wendigo, and I doubt anyone has ever managed to come very close to it.
The scene with the old Indian picking up the scent of the wendigo and getting scared shitless is one of a kind.
Even Blackwood barely managed to write another story quite like it.

>> No.21804886

This I can do.

>> No.21804894

Not OP, but I agree with that. I haven't come across that in books very often (desu, I only recently started reading more) but the best films are usually those that leave me unsatisfied in the end.

>> No.21805023

I reckon we're wayyyy too jaded nowadays to get a kick outta horror books (or the horror genre as a whole)

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