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I would like books, as many books as possible, arguing FOR the supernatural and arguing AGAINST the supernatural. I really want to know if anything exists beyond the material

>> No.21802571

>>21802545
God spits out the lukewarm

>> No.21802640

>>21802545
The "material" doesn't exist, its a 2D geometric image

>> No.21802657

>>21802571
>>21802640
can you include the authors names? I'm having trouble finding these books

>> No.21802730

>>21802545
Start from the works of Jung and see if you get filtered. Personally, he managed to show me that both realities have equal merits for existence.

>> No.21802741

>>21802545
The Occult: A History by Colin Wilson
A New Science of Life by Rupert Sheldrake
Dogs that know when their owners are coming home by Rupert Sheldrake

>> No.21802763

Books arguing FOR the supernatural:

"The Varieties of Religious Experience" by William James
"The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel
"Supernatural: What the Bible Teaches about the Unseen World – and Why It Matters" by Dr. Michael S. Heiser
"The Kingdom of the Occult" by Walter Martin
"Angels and Demons: What Do We Really Know About Them?" by Peter J. Kreeft
"Miracles" by C.S. Lewis
"The Immortal Mind: Science and the Continuity of Consciousness beyond the Brain" by Dr. Ervin Laszlo
"The Afterlife Experiments: Breakthrough Scientific Evidence of Life After Death" by Gary E. Schwartz
"Supernatural Gods: Spiritual Mysteries, Psychic Experiences, and Scientific Truths" by Jim Willis
"The Paranormal Conspiracy: The Truth about Ghosts, Aliens, and Mysterious Beings" by Timothy Dailey

Books arguing AGAINST the supernatural:

"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins
"God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" by Christopher Hitchens
"The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason" by Sam Harris
"Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon" by Daniel C. Dennett
"The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe without Design" by Richard Dawkins
"A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing" by Lawrence M. Krauss
"The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" by Carl Sagan
"Why I Am Not a Christian and Other Essays on Religion and Related Subjects" by Bertrand Russell
"The Atheist's Guide to Reality: Enjoying Life without Illusions" by Alex Rosenberg
"Sense and Goodness Without God: A Defense of Metaphysical Naturalism" by Richard Carrier

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21802770

>>21802545
watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCiCESCpVbo

>> No.21804462

>>21802657
Try google.

>> No.21804486

>>21804462
I did google them. Nothing came up for both

>> No.21805040

>>21802763
>"The Varieties of Religious Experience" by William James
I asked ChatGPT what his arguments for the existence of the supernatural are and the answer was really boring. Basically just "some people claim to have experienced supernatural stuff" and "some cognitive stuff can't be explained with materialism".

>> No.21805317

>>21805040
James didn't necessarily believe in the supernatural, he thought that it was possible and sought evidence for it

>> No.21805368

>>21802545
Just read Spinoza

>> No.21806997

>>21802545
Bhagavad Gita

>> No.21807282

https://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm

>> No.21807474

>>21802770
God that guys a fucking cunt don’t bother watching any of his garbage. He merely has the simulacra of an intellectual because his voice sounds authoritative. He’s just a low rent drama tuber.

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>>21802763
>>21802545
hmm... interesting.
>>21805368
(((spinoza)))

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>>21802545
Prove first that what you are sensing with your mind is material

>> No.21808943

>>21802770
Why do you keep shilling your channel?

>> No.21809082

>>21805368
Jew.

Bump.

>> No.21809452

>>21802545
Keith woods has a few good youtube videos on God. There's one where he talks about a book which argues for God because the scientific constants are set perfectly to permit life + existence.

>> No.21809498

>>21802545
Try "Natural Supernaturalism". Sounds up your alley.

>> No.21809509

>>21805040
The plural of anecdote is data. What else are you going to base a hunt for evidence of something beyond material?

>> No.21809526

>>21802545
Read the Journal of Parapsychology studies.
https://archive.org/details/pub_journal-of-parapsychology
As someone who wasted his parent's hard-earned income by taking a parapsychology course in university, I can tell you that yes, paranormal phenomena does exists, but they are incredibly rare and the ones we have proof of are the most nonsensical ones, like Poltergeists.
The moment someone tells you something which is easily understandable, like "I can bend spoons with my mind" or "pick a number I'll read your mind" you got a scam.

>> No.21810392

>>21802763
Yikes that’s a lot of Jews agaianf supernatirlsim