Buddhist /lit/ continued

[Anonymous No.21788415]

A few days back I started a Buddhist /lit/ thread and we got a lot of good recommendations.
I would like to continue but this time with a focus on meditation /lit/ .
I am particularly interested in vajrayana meditation and learning sacred mudras and postures

[Anonymous No.21788514]

>>21788415
>interested in vajrayana meditation and learning sacred mudras and postures
Isn't that something for initiates, not intellectually curious? I guess I recommend one book about vajrayana I've read, which is The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, although it doesn't really go into things you want to learn about.

[Anonymous No.21789385]

>>21788415
>I am particularly interested in vajrayana meditation
a good introduction to the Vajrayana paradigm and the practice of creation and completion is "Creation and Completion: Essential Points of Tantric Meditation" by Jamgon Kongtrul, the introduction by the translator is a great study on what is Vajrayana and what practices they do based on the 3 changes o fthe wheel
Dzogchen in particular is a good place to start in my opinion, and a good introduction is "The trackles path" by Ken Mcleod
"Roaring silence: discovering the mind of dzogchen" by Ngakpa Chogyam and Khandro Dechen has a lot of great practices to try

>and learning sacred mudras and postures
this part is more difficult since thisis the kind of stuff you get when you're initiated, the good news is that thanks to the tibetan exodus finding a master that can empower you is not difficult, so you should read those books i rcommend you and if you like them and think that you wanna get an empowerment(wang) just find a guru and he teach you tons of mudras

[Anonymous No.21789452]

White american leftists:

>prayer
heh, praying to your "sky-daddy" huh kid? pffft religious fucking nonsense. "thoughts and prayers" yeah that'll fucking work you big dumb conservative ;) I believe in SCIENCE, not prayer!!

>meditation
wow le eastern chink wisdom zomg and it's PROVEN by SCIENCE to help me do a heckin capitalism better!! sam harris said so!! it's not like meditation is religious practice designed to help me see my past lives and speak to death and devas, nah uhhh that kind of bunk religious NONSENSE is for CONSERVATARDS!!!!

[Anonymous No.21789527]

>>21789452
ughh i hate my parents they said i have to start applying for jobs or they won't keep paying my rent
there aren't even any creative jobs hiring right nowww

[Anonymous No.21790133]

>>21788415

[Anonymous No.21790389]

posting the availabile charts from the MEGA

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[Anonymous No.21790415]

Someone needs to add those ones where it's in front of an anime classroom blackboard, start with the japs and then start with the chinks.

[Anonymous No.21790420]

>>21789452
>white

[Anonymous No.21790699]

Namo Amituofo. I should make a chart one day specifically on the Chan and Pure Land schools.

[Anonymous No.21790762]

>>21789452
Wow white liberal americans btfo

[Anonymous No.21790789]

if you need to read that many books on meditation, you're not getting the point. stop cognizing and practice if it really matters to you. read mindfulness in plain english and bhante g will say the same thing but in 40 different ways for our toddler minds to find one way that works. do an adhitthana sit every day and you'll get something out of practice. focus on breath awareness and everything unfolds. maybe throw some self inquiry in there periodically. mudras are dogmatic nonsense, same with pali chanting.

[Anonymous No.21791069]

I thought of Matthew 4:9 when I read this.

[Anonymous No.21792257]

>>21790133
>>21790389
>>21790395
>>21790403
>>21790415
Thank you

[Anonymous No.21792574]

>>21790789
It's not necessarily needed for the sake of meditation but for the sake of learning more about, as you put it, dogmatic nonsense. I just find that stuff interesting

[Anonymous No.21792686]

>>21789452
You really beat the shit out of that strawman there

[Anonymous No.21792887]

>>21788415
Wagner created Western Vajrayana independently of any knowledge of it, and when his understanding of Buddhism was dominated by the Theravada of Schopenhauer. In his proposed drama on a Buddhist legend, Die Sieger, he even unknowingly added a Mahayanistic idea, which in his days was scarcely known in Europe, to Buddhism itself: namely, that the way to redemption must take, not a direct path, through perfect denial of sensual love, but rather an indirect path, first through the affirmation of sensual love, in order to arrive at the ultimate overcoming of it. But the full development of his Vajrayana philosophy appears in the drama Tristan und Isolde (1859), and its most important theoretical exposition being in his essay Beethoven (1870). During the creation of Tristan und Isolde in a letter to Mathilde Wesendonck he wrote the following:

>For it is a matter of demonstrating a path of salvation recognised by none of the philosophers, particularly not by Sch., the pathway to complete pacification of the Will through love, and that no abstract love of mankind, but the love which actually blossoms from the soil of sexual love, i.e. from the affection between man and woman. It is conclusive, that I am able to use for this (as philosopher, not as poet, since as such I have my own) the terminology which Sch. himself supplies me. The exposition leads very deep and far, for it embraces a preciser explanation of the state in which we become able to apprehend Ideas, as also of that of Genius (Genialitaf), which I no longer conceive as a state of disengagement of the intellect from the will, but rather as an enhancement of the intellect of the individual to a cognitive organ of the race itself (Erkenntnissorgan der Gattung), thus of the Will as Thing-in-itself; whence alone, moreover, is to be explained that strange enthusiastic joyfulness and rapture in the supreme moments of genial cognition which Sch. seems hardly to know, as he can find it [i.e. that mode of cognition] only in repose and in the silencing of the individual passions. Quite analogously to this conception, I then arrive with greatest certainty at proving in Love a possibility of attaining to that exaltation above the instinct of the individual will where, after complete subjection of this latter, the racial will comes to full consciousness of itself; which upon this height is necessarily tantamount to complete pacification. All this will be made clear even to the inexperienced, if my statement succeeds; whilst the result cannot but be very significant, and entirely and satisfactorily fill the gaps in Schopenhauer's system.

[Anonymous No.21794581]

I've only ever really cared about Zen, does that make me a pseud?

[dago !deClb9SBC. No.21794972]

>>21792887
based Wagnerfag

[Anonymous No.21795095]

>>21789385
>"Creation and Completion: Essential Points of Tantric Meditation" by Jamgon Kongtrul
This is a great recommendation, seconded