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21786481 No.21786481 [Reply] [Original]

"I'm a perfectionist" is just a cope for writers who're lazy, out of ideas, or both.

>> No.21786486

I'd rather have writers like grrm than brando sandos who churns out mediocre shit every fucking month

>> No.21786512

How can Americans write fantasy when they don't even say shit like crumpets or drink tea

>> No.21786513

>>21786486
You prefer waiting decades for mediocre shit instead with GRRM

>> No.21786518

>>21786513
>asoiaf
>mediocre
Get the fuck outta here you contrarian wanker

>> No.21786527
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>>21786512
US consumes more tea than Br*tain

>> No.21786532

>>21786527
Only consumption per capita is relevant in this context. Ofc countries with high population will consoom more overall.

>> No.21786540

>>21786527
Yeah because the omnipresent fast food places there like McDonalds make huge batches of it just to have it avalaible on stock. 99% of it goes to waste

>> No.21786690

>>21786518
Not my fault he writes prose equal to that of a sixth grader. It may as well have been a screenplay.

>> No.21786703
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>>21786481
Hi.

>> No.21786879

>>21786481
Have you tried not reading fantasy?

>> No.21786904

>>21786518
Asoiaf is better than mediocre, it's a grand effort in world building, but that's where it ends. It's historical fiction for boys.

>> No.21786907

>just write more books so I can consoooom

Just got read your Sanderslop you mindless cattle

>> No.21786909

>>21786527
>US consumes more tea than Br*tain
With 5 times the people? Big if true.

>> No.21787008

>>21786486
Mistborn is an okay series.

>> No.21787115

>>21786879
Fantasy fiction is the crash site of meaning.
Create a world possessing the structure of Biblical Israel or Vedic India or Homeric Greece and it will be called fantastic.
Create an alternate, intrinsically meaningful world, and the world will instantly recognize it as especially false. The very shape of meaning now indicates delusion: and this, I think, should give us pause.
Fantasy is a pretty serious thing - something worth pissing people off about. You can write the only kind of Bible a human could write in this remarkable and blasphemous age - a far different Book of Revelation, more honest to the complicated edges of the world, equally horrific. A textual crypt for the corpse of God.

>> No.21787147

>>21787115
stop reading glorified YA

>> No.21787196

>>21787147
To be fair anyhitng you read is automatically YA, zoomer.

>> No.21787210

>>21786481
>>21786486
>>21786703
Stop wasting your time with fantasy goyslop, simple as

>> No.21787230

>>21787210
4chan is goyslop

>> No.21787234

>>21786486
what happened to the sanderson who wrote the way of kings? It is by far his best book in terms of
>character development
>pacing
>worldbuilding
>prose
he has become a full on pulp shitter since 2014 if not earlier, i suspect someone ghostwrites everything after the first half of words of radiance, which is where his quality noticably declines mid novel.

>> No.21787260

>>21787234
The Kaladin parts were kino but hammered down on the "he lost everything and is a slave now" point too hard, the whole library parts were lame and awkward to read, and everything having to do with Shartblades was straight out cringe
>HE JUMPED ON THE WALL BUT IT WAS UPRIGHT FOR HIM AND HE WAS SO FAST AND HE KILLED EVERYBODY WITH A SWING
The Dalinar parts were forgettable and that other noble who is like the bad guy (I forgot his name) was a moustache twirling cartoon villain.

I really dont want imagine how bad it is if thats his best.
In general >>21787210 is right, "fantasy" is not a literary genre. Its the basis for a video/board/childrens game where you are encouraged to use your fantasy and come up with your own heroes and their own stories. You can also adapt it to film for amazing visuals but in book form "fantasy" is just pure slop. Read something about the real world you fucking dork.
Tolkien gets a pass because he kickstarted this whole thing and his work has literary value, bonus points for making his academic faggot peers seethe.

>> No.21787275

Why are they always disgusting fatfucks and crypto jews? Tolkien and others mog them.

>> No.21787280

>>21787260
Reminder he named the evil noble Sades because he was...sadistic...
Sanderson spends words like the US government spends tax dollars, you could cut 50% of the book and actually improve it.

also the only other good fantasy is narnia, for the value of teaching children morals and eschatology. tolkien and lewis were only good because of their religious and mythological themes.

fantasy sucks because its derivative and usually highlights the authors autism and inexperience dealing with other human beings rather than creating a valuable narrative. I would exclude grrm from this because his writing is entertaining

>> No.21787288

>>21787210
Correct. The only acceptable fantasy is Tolkien and European lore. Read Beowulf, if you are Germanic, it has magical properties. For a week after reading I was having lucid dreaming flying dreams everynight, walking through walls, floating around, waking up in the dream. Unreal.

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>>21786481
No.

>> No.21787292

>>21786486
I'd much prefer a writer who writes than one who doesn't.

>> No.21787293

>>21786527
Considering the population is 8 times the size those numbers are pathetic. You probably aren't even a white american.

>> No.21787307

>>21786527
Mutt moment

>> No.21787312

>>21786481
12 years and counting

>> No.21787324

>>21787234
>what happened to the sanderson who wrote the way of kings? It is by far his best book in terms of
>>character development
>>pacing
>>worldbuilding
>>prose
>he has become a full on pulp shitter since 2014 if not earlier, i suspect someone ghostwrites everything after the first half of words of radiance, which is where his quality noticably declines mid novel.
Because Way of Kings was rewritten several times over the years before he finally got a book deal. The second book to some extend too. It's the third book that was written mostly from scratch and it was there that the problems started. Time and time again it is proven speed-writing just straight up doesn't work, a great work must be polished. But Brandon is caught up in his fame and just churns out story after story.

>> No.21787472

>>21786527
ARIZONA ICE TEA , BITCHES

>> No.21787982

>>21786481
Just read a very good fantasy lol

>> No.21788003

>>21786481
The books ended with a literal explosive shit let it go

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>>21787312
>sansa has been in the vale for 23 years

>> No.21789234

>>21786481
based gigabeards dabbing on fantasylets by leaving their works unfinished and streaming on twitch instead

>> No.21789263

>>21786481
JK Rowling published the entire Harry Potter series in a 10 year span. It's been 12 years since the last Song of Ice and Fire book released. Martin is a total hack and a fraud and anyone still invested in his series is a certified moron.

>> No.21789925

>>21787260
Many literary classics have fantasy elements. But I agree, fantasy as a backdrop to just make a DnD campaign and larp through it is not good

>> No.21789931

>>21789191
fuck... putting it that way is pretty rough

>> No.21791119

>>21786481
"Why haven't they finished writing their books" is just a cope for low iq idiots who are too pathetic to be grateful or patient for other people's creative work.

>> No.21791141

>>21787324
He should honestly abandon every other gay ass series and just take the next 40 years to make stormlight archive good, as of now it had devolved into tumblr tier fanfiction of itself

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oh my denna