/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21776141]

Books on Buddhism?
Does /lit/ have a reading list for Buddhism?

[Anonymous No.21776153]

[Anonymous No.21776211]

>>21776153
Thank you

[Anonymous No.21776296]

Be sure to check out Pannobhasas channel on kiketube, he has some /lit/zens on from time to time.

[Anonymous No.21776448]

>>21776141

[Anonymous No.21776449]

>>21776141
Just read the dhammapada.
>source: just trust me bro

[Anonymous No.21776863]

>>21776153
Is the chart any good.

[Anonymous No.21776925]

>>21776141
read Walpola Rahula's and Peter Harvey's introductions on buddhism. George Grimm also made a pretty good one apparently but I havent read it

[Anonymous No.21776961]

>>21776863
skip all the secondary texts if you want it to be 'faithful to the early buddhist texts' like the chart is supposed to be - otherwise if you do read the secondary texts its a decent chart for pali suttas, a couple of modern meditation guides (a mixed bag as to whether they correspond to the suttas or not), some interesting more philosophical analyses from nanananda on the pali suttas, and an introduction to madhyamika which enters moreso into mahayana territory

[Anonymous No.21777034]

read Bible

[Anonymous No.21777099]

>>21776141
>"Buddhism today is most famous for everything the Buddha never taught." -- Coomaswamy
Post-schismatic Buddhisms will be of zero use or value without OG Pali Canon material no, 'anatta/anatman' is not no-soul(noun) and a primer. Read the Grimm book or prepare to fail.

George Grimm. Doctrine of the Buddha.
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.70145

The Principle Upanisads, 1 vol. trans. Rhadhakrishnan
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.148291/page/n9/mode/2up

The Upanishads 4 vol. trans. Swami Nikhilananda, comm. Adi Shankara
https://archive.org/details/upanishads-by-nikhilananda

Shankara. Vivekacudamani & Upadesa Shasri. Vedanta Press.
https://arshabodha.org/wp-content/uploads/abc/teachings/adiShankara/Vivekachudamani_eBook.pdf
https://archive.org/details/06-upadesa-sahasri-volume-5/Updesa%20Sahasri%20by%20Adi%20Shankaracharya/01-Upadesa-Sahasri-Summary/

[Anonymous No.21777103]

>>21776961
Is there a guide on meditation and different techniques. i know on Vajranaya Buddhism different hand gesture (mudras) mean diffrent things

[Anonymous No.21777441]

>>21776153
so you redditors removed the mind illuminated from this chart because he did something that is le bad

[Anonymous No.21777538]

>>21777099
Hello Ken Wheeler.

[Anonymous No.21777572]

>>21777441
That's actually what convinced me that the whole samadhi without sila approach is wrong.

[Anonymous No.21777606]

>>21777572
has he left out some sila aspects from the works he was mirroring?

[Anonymous No.21777614]

>>21776296
>Pannobhasas
Nothing comes up when I search this

[Anonymous No.21777624]

>>21777099
Hello pajeet

[Anonymous No.21777677]

>>21777606
Not really understanding what you're trying to say here.

I meant that his scandal convinced me that meditation and mindfulness are not matters of refined technique but something that arises naturally out of sense restraint, virtue and right view. Meditation is less about doing particular things correctly than it is about not doing anything out of particular intentions (i.e the defilements). A lot of things which didn't formerly make sense (like why, in the suttas, certain people seemed to gain arahantship or stream entry just from listening to the Buddha once, or how stream entry eliminates doubt) started to click once I adopted this perspective.

[Anonymous No.21777732]

>>21777677
Its more so that many of the buddha's closest followers are dedicated brahmans who have long trained their mind to have strict discipline/meditation but lack the final eureka moment, which is that selflessness is the key to this entire thing. This selflessness extends all the way from top to bottom, from mind/thought to views of the world to behaviors of the world. Thats what stops the suffering all around. This promotes good behavior in others, good behavior in yourself, reduces suffering, etc. Its a universal answer, so to speak. But that path needs to be followed through with discipline with training of the mind to guide you throughout the life.

[Anonymous No.21777757]

>>21777099
>Post-schismatic Buddhisms will be of zero use or value
Then why are you plastering Shankara all over your post? He's the OG crypto-buddhist

[Anonymous No.21777875]

>>21777677
>meditation and mindfulness are not matters of refined technique
then why does the practice exist

[Anonymous No.21777881]

Start with The Foundations of Buddhism by Rupert Gethin

[Anonymous No.21777908]

>>21776141
Prajñāpāramitāhṛdaya (Heart Sutra)
>Salistamba Sutra (Rice Stalk Sutra)
Bhavasankrati Sutra (The Sutra of the passage into existence)
>Patajen kiao king (Sutra on the Eight Realizations of Great Beings)
Shorter Sukhāvatīvyūha Sūtra (The Shorter Land of Bliss)
>Longer Sukhāvatīvyūha Sūtra (The Longer Land of Bliss)
Ananta Nirdeśa Sūtra (Sutra of Infinite Meanings)
>Saddharmapundarikasutra (Lotus Sutra)
Vimalakirti Sutra
>Mahāyāna Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra
Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā Sūtra (Diamond Sutra)
>Udanavarga
Mūlamadhyamakakārikā (Fundamental Verses of the Middle Way)
>Ratnāvalī (Precious Garland)
Suhṛllekha (Letter to a Good Friend)
>Vigrahavyāvartanī (The End of Disputes)
Uttaratantrashastra (Treatise on the Supreme Continuum)
>Dharma-dharmatā-vibhāga (Distinguishing Phenomena and Pure Being)
Abhisamayālaṅkāra (Ornament of Realization)
>Abhidharmakośakārikā (Commentary on the Treasury of the Abhidharma)
Laṅkāvatāra Sūtra
>Bhaiṣajya-guru-vaiḍūrya-prabhā-rāja Sūtra (Sutra of the Medicine Buddha)
Golden Light Sutra
>Bodhidharma Treatise
Awakening of Faith in the Mahayana
>Jingtu shiyao (Ten Essential Works on the Pure Land)
Guanxin lun (On Visualizing the Mind)
>Liu miao fa men (The Six Dharma Gates to the Sublime)
Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch
>Kṣitigarbha Bodhisattva Pūrvapraṇidhāna Sūtra (Sutra of the Fundamental Vows of the Bodhisattva Kṣitigarbha)
Bodhisattvacaryāvatāra (A Guide to the Bodhisattva's Way of Life)
>The Legend of the Great Stupa
Bardo Thodöl
>Advice from the Lotus Born
Treasures from Juniper Ridge
>Bhāvanākrama (Trilogy of Stages of Meditation)
Lady of the Lotus-Born: The Life and Enlightenment of Yeshe Tsogyal
>Bodhipathapradīpa (A Lamp for the Path to Enlightenment)
Tārā-mūla-kalpa (Tara's Fundamental Ritual Text)
>The Jewel Ornament of Liberation
Sankashū (山家集|| - Collection of a Mountain Home)
>Hōjōki (An Account of My Hut)
The Gateless Gate
>Shōbōgenzō
Tenzo Kyōkun
>Rissho Ankoku Ron (On Establishing the Correct teaching for the Peace of the Land)
>Kaimoku-sho (The Opening of the Eyes)
Kanjin-no Honzon-sho (The Object of >Devotion for Observing the Mind)
Senji-sho (The Selection of the Time)
>Ho'on-sho (On Repaying Debts of Gratitude)
Shishin Gohon-sho (On the Four Stages of Faith and the Five Stages of Practice)
>Sho-hokke Daimoku-sho (On Chanting the Daimoku of the Lotus Sutra)
Tannishō - 歎異抄 (the Lamentations of Divergences)
>Denkōroku (Transmission of the Light)
Tsurezuregusa – 徒然草 (Essays in Idleness)
>A Treatise on Buddha Nature
Chöying Dzö (The Treasury of the Dharma Plane)
>Lamrim Chenmo (The Great Treatise on the Stages of the Path to Enlightenment)
Gobunshō (御文章, "Compositions")
>The Life of Milarepa
Nges don rgya mtsho (Ocean of Definitive Meaning)
>The Mysterious Record of Immovable Wisdom
The Treatise On Ten Doubts About Pure Land
>The Song of Hakuin Zenji in Praise of Zazen / The Four Ways to Know the Awakened Person

[Anonymous No.21777978]

mastering the core teachings of the buddha

[Anonymous No.21778004]

you believe in a self + you want meditation organic to the teaching=>jainism

you dont believe in a self + you want meditation organic to the teaching=>buddhism

you just want meditation in a religious naturalist setting=> you do drugs recommended by your local shaman

you just want meditation because it's fun=>you do drugs recommended on erowid

you just want meditation and pretend to be scientific about it, like an atheist who fucking loves science=> you do meditation by atheist gurus like Culadasa, Ingram, all the atheists who fucking love zen

you want devotion + you want meditation with an unorganic teaching by your jewish guru or indian guru or tibetan guru or chinese guru praising some king of god or deified buddha=>you do hinduism, mahayana, vajrayana and you don't do yet another flavor of semitism. And the meditation done by those people has nothing to do with the meditation done by the buddhists or the jains.

[Anonymous No.21778095]

Do you guys have one on Hinduism as well?

[Anonymous No.21778118]

>>21776863
Depends on what you're looking for - I would rate it poorly because it's only primary sources. It seems its only value is to either high-level researchers (therefore not good as a response to "where do I start?") or to people looking to throw themselves into a Buddhist lifestyle and/or philosophical outlook.
Starting with 1000+ page collections of the Buddha's direct (alleged) words is a terrible way to begin actually understanding a topic. I feel like most people will pick up a .pdf of the first book, quickly lose interest, maybe even finish reading through it, and come out still understanding nothing about Buddhist traditions, historical developments, and its modern manifestations. It's a terrible flowchart for actually learning about the topic as a subject matter.

To throw in a contribution to the thread: The Foundations of Buddhism by Rupert Gethin.

[Anonymous No.21778150]

>>21778004
>And the meditation done by those people has nothing to do with the meditation done by the buddhists or the jains.
Wrong

[Anonymous No.21778153]

>>21778095
You cant be a hindu unless you're born into one.

[Anonymous No.21778163]

>>21777099
anatta literally means "no soul", and coomaswamy wasn't even buddhist he was a vedanta perennialist, his agenda is to mix all religions into a shapeless cult
also why anyone would waste time reading the crypot madhyamaka of shankara when you can read the works of his master Nagarjuna? probably the best philosopher in the history of India

[Anonymous No.21778165]

>>21778153
This thread is about books on the topic, not initiation rites. Religious LARPers are the worst thing to happen to this board, and I say this as a religious person.

[Anonymous No.21778184]

>>21776141
lmao they look like power rangers in all different colors

[Anonymous No.21778286]

>>21777908
>Uttaratantrashastra (Treatise on the Supreme Continuum)
>Dharma-dharmatā-vibhāga (Distinguishing Phenomena and Pure Being)
>Abhisamayālaṅkāra (Ornament of Realization)
>Abhidharmakośakārikā (Commentary on the Treasury of the Abhidharma)
good luck to anyone STARTING with parts of a Tibetan monastic curriculum

[Anonymous No.21778342]

>>21777875
meditation is quite rare among lay buddhists and is mostly a monastic things with lay practitioners focusing more on recitations, offerings and prayers - meditation being insanely common in buddhism is just some white people healing crystals shite

[Anonymous No.21778354]

>>21778184
Where is Black Buddha?

[Anonymous No.21778546]

>>21777099
>the an(no)-atman(literally soul) doctrine is not "no-soul"
>read this western dude instead of the buddhist canon and the commentary of the monks that practiced this path for more than 2500 years
>also read crypto-buddhism disguised as vedanta instead of real buddhism

[Anonymous No.21778557]

>>21778118
nigga named rupert

[Anonymous No.21778620]

test

[Anonymous No.21778633]

>>21778342
what does it matter if it's rare or common
it does exist as a skill to be refined and one could benefit from it

[Anonymous No.21778656]

>>21776141

Dhamma Within Reach and The Only Way to Jhana by Ajahn Nyanamoli.

[Anonymous No.21778844]

>>21778153
I can and I will.

[Anonymous No.21778855]

>>21778004
I just want to understand enlightenment

[Anonymous No.21778857]

>>21778633
>>21778342
People confuse mental training as meditation, but meditation isn't the core aspect to Buddhism. The core aspect is mental transformation. Bhavana isn't just introspection, its introspection for the sake of transformation. Ofcourse meditation as a specific tool is the standard and crucial tool for Buddhism, but its not the only tool.

[Anonymous No.21778890]

>>21778857
>Last Age of Dharma
>thinking that meditation will lead to enlightenment instead of placing one’s full trust and taking refugee in Amida Buddha
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.21778900]

>>21776141
I like the green man

[Anonymous No.21778964]

>>21778153
>>21778844
"In the Sanātana Dharma there are two often permeated realms that can, however, be clearly distinguished: karmakhaṇḍa (ritualistic section) and jñānakhaṇḍa (knowledge section). In the karmakhaṇḍa lies the svadharma, which is the absolute and unique sphere of the twice-born (dvija), that is, those who belong to the first three castes, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya and vaiśya, and who from the age of 7 years can undergo the ritual of tying the sacrificial cord (yajñopavīta). Such a rite of passage (upanayana saṃskāra) is the sine qua non for brāhmaṇa to access the study of Veda (vedādhyāyana). Such education includes learning the sacrificial science that the rest of society cannot access (in fact, the kṣatriya and vaiśya study only the Itihāsa and Purāṇa). Non-Indians, or rather those who are not born within the caste system, can exceptionally be equated with one of these three castes in Indian society if they are deemed worthy of the hiraṇyagarbha rite, by which they are aggregated to a caste.

This concerns the svadhārmika aspect of karmakhaṇḍa. Quite different is the initiatory sector of karmakhaṇḍa to which all human beings as such can be initiated, subject to evaluation of qualifications. For the most part, the initiatory paths in this area are tantric or tantrized. The only initiatory path still reserved exclusively for Vedic ritualistic brāhmaṇa (ṛtvij)-and almost always by family tradition-is the mīmāṃsā and initiations for adhvaryu, atharvan, aṅgirasa, etc., which number a few thousand throughout India.

Such has remained to this day the position of masters including Svāmī Svarūpānanda Sarasvatī and Svāmī Karapātrī (see Caturvarṇya-saṃskriti-vimarśa). All this indeed provides evidence that there are some very narrow areas of initiation and Hindu tradition in general that are denied to Westerners. But this does not mean that it is in toto precluded to Westerners."

>>21778163
>Nagarjuna
whats the correct interpretation of his works?

an 'absolutism' like the one expounded by TRV Murti, AK Chaterjee,etc or an 'anti-foundationalism' propounded by the majority of western scholars?

there's no consensus even among the 'traditional scholars' like the tibetans

[Anonymous No.21779116]

>>21778964
>there's no consensus
yes, because prajñaparamita is non-discursive wisdom simple as

[Anonymous No.21779173]

>>21778964
The commentarial tradition on Nagarjuna spans millennia and all of east Asia, from the more immediate Sanskrit tradition (chandrakirti, bhaviveka) to the tibetan (you can see the doxographies of longchenpa and tsongkhapa or konchog jigme wangbo) and Chinese (sengzhao, jizang). I'm not sure there's a person alive who has the synthetic familiarity with the reception of Nagarjuna that would allow for them to make a judgment on which analysis is the correct one.

[Anonymous No.21779289]

>>21778633
To delve into this more, is there a book about meditation on the Vajranaya way of meditation?

[Anonymous No.21779313]

>>21779116
prajñaparamita is big turd by intellectuals

[Anonymous No.21779340]

>>21779313
Why are you here? Go back to your TikTok loops

[Anonymous No.21779370]

>>21778004
>you believe in a self + you want meditation organic to the teaching=>jainism
Does "believe in self" mean that one understands we are all enlighted?
If so i would like to learn more about Jainist meditation technique and how it differs from Buddhism

[Anonymous No.21779377]

>>21777034
>abandon nibbana, idolize a kike instead
idk man not really making a particular compelling point

[Anonymous No.21779508]

>>21779377
Yore being just as closed minded as him if you upon disregard the teachings of Jesus

[Anonymous No.21779589]

>>21779508
In pajeet parlance, Jesus teaches that there is an Isvara or great lord or creator to be worshiped, and this is not the Buddhist vehicle and therefore does not align with Buddhism. The only way to salvage this from the Buddhist side is to br condescending—retconn Jesus as a bodhisattva who tried to teach stupid and obstinate people a better way in such a way that they could understand it. The ethical precepts of Christianity are not too far apart from Buddhism, and the avoidance of animal sacrifice and violence are especially significant breaches with the parent religion. But in the ultimate analysis, the teachings of Jesus are not a buddha dharma and will not produce the goals of Buddhist soteriology.

[Anonymous No.21779728]

>>21776153
>>21776863
everything but the meditation stuff is good
someone should remake it with the meditation books edited out
t. anon who made the chart years ago

[Anonymous No.21779745]

>>21777614
I accidently added a s.
https://insightmyanmar.org/burmadhammablog/tag/Pannobhasa+Bhikkhu

[Anonymous No.21779912]

>>21779589
>>21779377
Truth is a person and He has a name.
(spoiler: His name is Jesus)

[Anonymous No.21780043]

>>21779912
Kikeanity (niggrenity) is not the truth, it’s a Jewish Trojan horse.

[Anonymous No.21780055]

>>21776153
BUt is the chart any good?

[Anonymous No.21780092]

>>21779912
Is it even remotely possible for christers to contain their dogmatic bleating or does this sort of catatonic babble have to show up in every thread that touches on religion?

[Anonymous No.21780097]

>>21780055
Here's a rare chart

[Anonymous No.21780367]

>>21780097
Does anyone have anything on meditation?

[Anonymous No.21780449]

>>21780367
There are instructions mixed into most of the sutta/sūtra literature since that's a popular topic. The Mahasatipatthana Sutta (DN 22) for instance

[Anonymous No.21780505]

>>21780043
>>21780092
Reject your orientalism, return to the one true Church.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/

[Anonymous No.21780578]

>>21780505
Wasn't the world supposed to end a hundred years ago, jw-kun? As for Orientalism, I'm not the one pretending a dead Asian rabbi is God.

[Anonymous No.21780696]

>>21780092
the phenomen of 'exclusivism' is inherent to semitic traditions, there's no way to remove it; even the initiates of those religions, like the sufis or hesychasts, are tainted by this demonic dogmatism;

this actually reveals how those traditions are doctrinally weak, as they have to resort to such malefic ways of handling things.

[Anonymous No.21781089]

>>21778890
For me it's Vajrayogini

[Anonymous No.21781149]

>>21778964
>there's no consensus
there's no consensus on Shankara either, no philosophical work will ever produce a consensus among schoolars(specially in the case of the hindus you posted since one study Yogachara and the other Madhyamaka), the question is why waste your time in a crypto-madhyamaka when you can study actual madhyamaka instead? in both cases you're exposed to different interpretation but with Nagarjuna you can see the system in it's purest form and not disguised as Vedanta to trap HIndus

[Anonymous No.21781171]

>>21779289
there's tons of meditation practices in Vajrayana, each school, each region, each master has it's own, so you wouldn't find a general starter kit, since each vajrayana practicioner has it's own path according to the region he lives in and his masters
with that said, i think Dzogchen has some really nice practices and concepts, i recommend "the trackless path" by Ken Mcleod for a quick introduction to the system and "The roaring silence: discovering the mind of Dzogchen" by Ngakpa Chogyam and Khandro Dechen for a great guide of meditation practices

[Anonymous No.21781201]

>>21779289

[Anonymous No.21781276]

>>21781149
>there's no consensus on Shankara either,
Yes, there is; even though there is divergences on specific matters, everyone knows exactly the final goal of all this discussion.

Regarding the two hindu scholars, one was actually the disciple of the other, and his book on Yogacara can be considered as a kind of follow up from the book on Madhyamaka from his teacher, as it follows the same interpretative line (both madhyamaka and yogacara as a kind of absolutism)

> crypto-madhyamaka
This is a false asumption, as the two doctrines (vedanta and madhyamaka) start and end at two different points;
If one influenced the other was only from an 'instrumental' or 'technical' way (Shankara used vijnanavadin's doctrines to refute realists, and so on)

The greatest method used in Gaudapada's karikas and Shankara's bhashyas is not even found in buddhism (be it madhyamaka or yogacara), that is, the avasthatraya, analysis of the three states (waking, dream and deep sleep)
So what they (advaitins) did, was basically a 'borrowing' of the techniques used in buddhism to help in their own methodology for attaining the intuition of the Absolute.

So that's why the advaitins start and end at two points completely unknown for buddhists. From sarvaloka-prasiddhanubhava to Sakshi. And if they used buddhist 'tools' in the middle of this enterprise, I see no problem with that.

[Anonymous No.21781315]

>>21781149
Negroarjuna is the king of NPCs.

[Anonymous No.21781326]

>>21781276
>Yes, there is; even though there is divergences on specific matters, everyone knows exactly the final goal of all this discussion.
lol no, if that was the case then things like neo-advainta wouldn't exist,

>This is a false asumption
no is not, not only there's plenty of literature proving it, vedantins also recognize advaita as crypto-madhyamaka and Gaudapada as a crypto-mahayana, hell even some advaitins recognize advaita as a crypto-buddhist system, that's why so many vedantins created their own systems to escape advaita's crypto buddhist tendencies

[Anonymous No.21781368]

>>21780097
Cute chart

[Anonymous No.21781874]

>>21778964
I dunno what any of that means cant i just join vedanta society anon

[Anonymous No.21781918]

>>21778964
>an 'absolutism' like the one expounded by TRV Murti, AK Chaterjee,etc or an 'anti-foundationalism' propounded by the majority of western scholars
No such dichotomy exists, it only appears when you skim through wikipedia and then think you understand 2000 years of philosophical development

[Anonymous No.21781937]

>>21776141
https://www.dhammatalks.org/ebook_index.html
Free books on Buddhism. If they charge money for the dhamma, it is likely to be false dhamma. the teacher is false, in any event. That's why you avoid cesspits like Spirit Rock like the vaxx.

[Anonymous No.21781940]

>>21781315
It's niggerjewna

[Anonymous No.21781962]

>>21781918
Do you understand 2000 years of philosophical development?

[Anonymous No.21781994]

>>21780097
Is there one of these for Daoism?

[Anonymous No.21782038]

>>21781276
>even though there is divergences on specific matters, everyone knows exactly the final goal of all this discussion.
you're moving the goalpost now, the same can be said of Nagarjuna, everybody knows exactly what the final goal of the madhyamaka is

>This is a false asumption, as the two doctrines (vedanta and madhyamaka) start and end at two different points
not really, Shankara copy pasted Nagarjuna's non-dualistic philosophical system and the idea of a relative and absolute reality which is fundamental for the advaita metaphysic was created by Arya Nagarjuna

[Anonymous No.21782235]

>>21781276
>buddhism (be it madhyamaka or yogacara),
none of those two are buddhism in the first place

[Anonymous No.21782752]

>>21778857
The core aspect of buddhism is balancing your nervous system, if your white or Japanese. For SE Asians it's offerings. For a mixed bag it's devotion to something, an orphanage, escaping capitalism/society, and mysticism, or cultural Buddhism. For western students it's philosophy or curiosity, for landlords and kings Buddhism is pacification, for anticommunists Buddhism is counter revolution. For many theravadas it's self improvement, for therapists it's source material.

It's hard to say what it is. Can it be all these thing?

[Anonymous No.21782856]

>>21782752
>balancing your nervous system
hello gudo


"Buddhism is a religion that reduces the congestion of blood in the head. Ordinary people are always getting excited, and their blood is always rushing to their heads.

Whether they stuff themselves or have an empty stomach, whether they see a woman or a man, they're always getting excited and their blood is always rushing all around.

Buddhism reduces this congestion. Buddhism means your blood circulates in a natural way". - Kodo Sawaki

[Anonymous No.21782909]

>>21782856
It's just one way to cope with our shitty bodies

[Anonymous No.21782919]

>>21781962
Yes.

[Anonymous No.21783099]

>>21778964
>whats the correct interpretation of his works?
Generally speaking, people gravitate toward the 'pleasant' and away from the 'unpleasant' - prefer the 'good' to the 'bad' and the 'easy' to that of the 'suffering' - who in their right mind would not? The historical Buddha divided human experience into 'good', 'bad' and 'neutral' - pointing-out that due to agency of habitual greed, hatred and delusion (which acts as an experiential filter) - individuals like those sensory experiences that are joyous and reject those sensory experiences which are ladened with psychological, emotional and physical pain, etc, with little thought given to inhabiting a 'neutral' stae of being. Nagarjuna, the 14th Ch'an Patriarch in India - further explained the human predicament as involving a world where 'experiemce' is divided into four planes of being:


a) Good
b) Not-Good
c) Both 'good' and 'not good'
d) Neither 'good' and 'not-good'


With the enlightened-being having realised and penetrated the empty mind ground (which underlies all thought and sensory experience) and inhabiting a simultaneous 'state' of 'statelessness' (which lies just 'behind' or 'underneath' Nagarjuna's 'Tetralemma') - involving no attachments, partialities or contradictions of any kind (with all defilements - or 'klesa' being permanently 'uprooted').


Om Mani Padme Hum

[Anonymous No.21783154]

>>21778857
oohhhh i'm introoooospecting

[Anonymous No.21783522]

Whatever Nagarjuna’s philosophy happens to be (and whatever interpretation thereof can be advanced by various secular interpreters) is irrelevant to the subject of Buddhism, insofar and inasmuch as Nagarjuna’s all-too-human, speculative and fanciful philosophy (which can be called shunyatavada) diverges from the Middle Path of the Buddha, towards the extreme of nihilism (which the Buddha refuted in the Brahmajala Sutta). Thus it can be safely ignored, discarded and thrown into the garbage bin of history together with other such secular, peculiar and speculative philosophies, the invention of which is due to the afflicted imaginations and restless minds, bound up with Samsara, of their all-too-human creators, unlike the Dhamma, which source is the absolute knowledge and omniscient vision of a One-Thus-Gone.

[Anonymous No.21783573]

>>21783522
Madhyamaka isn't nihilism. Opinion discarded