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[Anonymous No.21745368]

I’m under the impression that the Philistines were Mycenaean Greeks who ended up in the Levant and the Goliath myth is an allusion to Hercules. Is this correct?

[Anonymous No.21745382]

This is retarded. Why do you think so? Mycenaean greeks didn't travel there and all archeological evidence attributed to philistines suggests a unique culture.

[Anonymous No.21745422]

>>21745382
>Most scholars agree that the Philistines were of Greek origin, and that they came from Crete and the rest of the Aegean Islands or, more generally, from the area of modern-day Greece. This view is based largely upon the fact that archaeologists, when digging up strata dated to the Philistine time-period in the coastal plains and in adjacent areas, have found similarities in material culture (figurines, pottery, fire-stands, etc.) between Aegean-Greek culture and that of Philistine culture, suggesting that they were originally one and the same people.
>In 2016, a large Philistine cemetery was discovered near Ashkelon, containing more than 150 dead buried in oval-shaped graves. A 2019 genetic study found that, while all three Ashkelon populations derive most of their ancestry from the local Semitic-speaking Levantine gene pool, the early Iron Age population was genetically distinct due to a European-related admixture; this genetic signal is no longer detectable in the later Iron Age population. According to the authors, the admixture was likely due to a "gene flow from a European-related gene pool" during the Bronze to Iron Age transition, which supports the theory that a migration event occurred. Philistine DNA shows similarities to that of ancient Cretans.
They were Mycenaeans who jumped ship during the dark ages.

[Anonymous No.21745432]

A giant isn't a Greek but there are no real giants anymore anyways. The ingredients necessary to make them don't exist anymore. Goliath was one of them last.

[Anonymous No.21745436]

>>21745382
Hercules:
>Heracles defeated a lion that was attacking the city of Nemea with his bare hands. After he succeeded he wore the skin as a cloak to demonstrate his power over the opponent he had defeated.
Goliath:
>Based on the southwest Anatolian onomastic considerations, Roger D. Woodard proposed *Walwatta as a reconstruction of the form ancestral to both Hebrew Goliath and Lydian Alyattes. In this case, the original meaning of Goliath's name would be "Lion-man,"
>narrative formulae such as the settlement of battle by single combat between champions has been thought characteristic of the Homeric epics (the Iliad) rather than of the ancient Near East. The designation of Goliath as a איש הביניים, "man of the in-between" (a longstanding difficulty in translating 1 Samuel 17) appears to be a borrowing from Greek "man of the metaikhmion (μεταίχμιον)", i.e., the space between two opposite army camps where champion combat would take place.
>A story very similar to that of David and Goliath appears in the Iliad, written circa 760–710 BCE, where the young Nestor fights and conquers the giant Ereuthalion.

[Anonymous No.21745440]

>>21745368
Why do the Philistines have two columns for Samson? Why do they have a Levant structured religion?

If they're Greeks then they're Philosemite Greeks who've adopted the Semitic pantheon and religious conducts.

[Anonymous No.21745441]

It should also be said that the giant is the same as a second degree angel and, unlike the angel, who is the messenger of divinity, is always evil.

[Anonymous No.21745450]

From the union of the Cainites and this other people were born giants. Their inherent character is clearly described in the Bible.