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Why was Joyce such a jerk to everyone?

>> No.2174454

He regretted not being a singer.

>> No.2174464

>>2174443
Schizophrenia and generally being a drunk.
Also: Irish in the late 19th and early 20th century is enough to make anyone a dick.

>> No.2174474

I feel sorry for his brother. Did you know "A Painful Case" is basically one big stab at his brother's conservative lifestyle? Did you know what a massive cunt he was to his brother?

A Painful Case reads as compassionate until you realise these details...

>> No.2174532

>>2174464

>Irish in the late 19th and early 20th century is enough to make anyone a drunk.
fix'd.

>> No.2174555

>>2174454
He won awards for his singing. Maybe he regretted not getting through medical school? Probably felt like a horrible failure. Also his wife cheated on him after he cheated on her a million times, I think. Crybaby.

>> No.2174564

>>2174532

Lol, not just the early 20th Century. We are talking about a country where divorce was still illegal in the late 80's.

>> No.2174764

You think he ever touched his wife's poop?

>> No.2174791

>>2174555
>>2174555
I don't think she actually did. I know he was worried about her doing it, but in my "companion to Ulysses" type thing, the author makes a point about how we don't know she did and that the suspicion was little more than paranoia. I don't know how authoritative that detail was, biographically, but it's not the only time I've heard biographers/critics stress that she hadn't (at least when he was writing the last episode of Ulysses).

>> No.2176196

>>2174764
He probably touched little smears left behind when he was rimming her and fucking her ass but i doubt he actually ever touched an open-air log. O could be wrong though.

>> No.2176199

because you're a fucking dolt, dipshit.

>> No.2176203

>>2176196
>ITT nobody realises Joyce had a fetish for farts.

I'm not even joking.
Look at the erotic letters he sent his wife.

>> No.2176213

>>2176203

yes, we know. we all know. this is the only way you fucking plebs can relate to joyce. joyce thread? lolol farts

>> No.2176218

>>2174464
The whole Schizophrenia thing is kinda unproven.
It's true, Jung diagnosed Schizophrenia in him after reading Ulysses, but that was just based on the novel. No actual interaction took part.
His daughter on the other hand...

>> No.2176250

Well, in studying Homer, I'm quickly discovering the guy (or conglomerate of oral poets) was a bit of a sociopath particularly where women and orientals are concerned.

Joyce, on the other hand, is frequently described as 'uxorious,' (I think I can attribute that to Amis) something that is just about reconciliable to a man who is also a serial philanderer.

Are great artists just bad people? Or else all too human? Neither are misanthropes, anyway, it's safe to say.

>> No.2176401

Best way to never be described as a jerk is to never do anything.

If you do anything, you're bound to get in the way of either (1) people who want you to do other things or (2) people who wanted to do the same thing.

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>2011
>believing joyce was schizophrenic

schizoid, maybe.