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21743105 No.21743105 [Reply] [Original]

Tom Robinson was guilty, wasn’t he? Is that meant to be the subtext of the novel?

>> No.21743122

>>21743105
The blackamoor? I thought he was meant to br le innocent.

>> No.21743128

>>21743122
He’s found innocent by the court, but is his actual character intended to be an innocent person? I think he did it

>> No.21743130

Probly. Blacks are pretty rapey.
And they love white cunny

>> No.21743136

>>21743130
That’s what I’m thinking

>> No.21743141

>>21743105
In the sequel Atticus was pretty racist. What are the chances he found out eventually that Tom did it? I'd say, pretty high.

>> No.21743144

Tough call
Do you believe a black guy who says he’s isn’t a criminal?
Or do you believe a woman without physical injuries who claims she was raped?

>> No.21743148
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21743148

>>21743105
The subtext is that upper class whites like Atticus Finch throw lower class whites under the bus when they are sexually assaulted by an inconvenient person
That's not what was intended but its what I got in light of the British Pakistani rape gangs breaking the headline at the time that I read it

>> No.21743157

>>21743144
Execute them both to be safe

>> No.21743172

>>21743157
Idiot.

>> No.21743186

>>21743144
The latter. You can be raped without physical injury occurring. You cannot be black and not a criminal.

>> No.21743188

>>21743148
That’s a good point. You look at things like Rotherham England in 2013, you see the effect of Atticus Finch’s on society

>> No.21743209

>>21743186
No injuries sounds like consent to me.

>> No.21743217

>>21743209
Not necessarily. Weak people can be overpowered by men without injuries.

>> No.21743254

>>21743188
Yeah, that really changed my perspective on things. I know it was not intended, and honestly To Kill a Mockingbird is still a worthwhile novel, but the message that it tried to get across is muddled to me
She tried to make it seem like the "White trash" father was badly abusive and raping his daughter but if he knew the nigger was innocent why did he continue causing trouble for the nigger's family when he was threatened with jail time? That sounds like a real grudge caused by a real injury.
I also began to look at historical cases of minorities released for raping lower class whites because it was assumed by upper class whites that the accusation was based in bigotry. A lot of the time the poor innocent victim of racism reoffended. Whether black, Jewish or Pakistani there was a consistent theme of reoffending after being released. My guess is that the real issue was classicism and that it was inconvenient for upper class Whites of the past to confess that the immigrants they let in were not doctors and rocket scientists

>> No.21743289

>>21743254
white*

>> No.21743308

>>21743105
no he was innocent. him and the white girl were fucking consensually. her father found out and is a total racist so he forced her to say all this shit about being raped because he couldn't bare the thought that anyone but him was getting with his daughter, especially a black man.

>> No.21743311

>>21743308
Then he deserved to be killed for cheating on his nerdy black wife; though I think Tom claims he didn't go through with the sex

>> No.21743330

>>21743141
yeah true but the sequel isn't really canon. it was based on the original draft for TKAM but harper lee never published it because obviously it was shit. it only got published posthumously as a cash grab. i think its near unanimously agreed that it is a huge step down in quality from the first. i would even go so far to say that if it had not been a harper lee work, and lee was still alive she wouldn't have been able to get it published if she tried.

>> No.21743341

>>21743311
>>21743308
ok i haven't read the book in years so i just went and double checked what actually happened and supposedly it was the daughter that tried to kiss tom at which point he ran away. my bad guys

>> No.21743361

>>21743141
>What are the chances he found out eventually that Tom did it?
That would actually be interesting. A liberal White guy who spends his life defending blacks from the evil White poor realizes that the poor were the real victims
They so often are, the upper class elite Whites don't want to admit that their poor experiences the brunt of their liberal politics, that they are negatively effected by diversity quotas or immigrant groups

>> No.21743373

>>21743361
affected* white*

>> No.21743385
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21743385

>>21743373
I capitalize White because it deserves my reverence

>> No.21743387

>ctrl f the word 'nigger'
>50 uses
Oof

>> No.21743403

>>21743385
Why did the ancient Jews believe that angels look like White people in human form?

>> No.21743404

>>21743289
To White A Mockingbird?

>> No.21743407

>>21743330
Posthumously? I thought she was still alive

>> No.21743413

>>21743385
Pajeet detected

>> No.21743419

>>21743403
Russians, not Jews.

>> No.21743433
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21743433

>>21743419
Read the book of Enoch and the Talmud. The Jews who met proto-Russians for the first time thought that they were of semi-angelic origin. The Russians and thankfully other Whiteys went with it and we got awesome art

>> No.21743435

>>21743254
Very well put. Emmett Till is a good example of this. A story went viral recently of how supposedly his accuser said he was innocent and she lied, and then quietly it turned out she never said that. Big example of “scream the lie, whisper the truth.”
Anyway, I started looking more into Emmett Till because of that. Did you know, according to all witness testimony, black people helped with his lynching? Did you also know that his father had been executed for raping a woman as well? Nobody ever tells those parts of the story

>> No.21743456

>>21743433
Euro Angeles are an invention of the Renaissance.

>> No.21743464

>>21743435
>Did you know, according to all witness testimony, black people helped with his lynching?
This happened surprisingly often in small communities. I've heard stories of incidents when Black women who were being abused by men came to the KKK of all people willingly and demanded they punish the guy. And the KKK were happy to comply, though typically the Black guys got killed and the White ones got flogged.
It was a wild vigilante justice of a poor rough people

>> No.21743468

>>21743456
>Euro Angeles are an invention of the Renaissance.
Cope, Jews invented it and then they tried to back out when WWII happened and the pretty White boys did not seem angels anymore

>> No.21743469

>>21743464
black* white*

>> No.21743480
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21743480

>>21743456
That’s just explicitly untrue, there’s pre-renaissance angel art

>> No.21743488

>>21743469
Not that anon but I capitalize White but not black. This is something I explicitly do. I’m telling you this because I have been posting in this thread and will post more in the future. If you see a post like that, it’s not a mistake, it’s my intent

>> No.21743490

>>21743480
Not explicitly Euro.

>> No.21743493

>>21743488
I will continue to correct both words because neither should be capitalized. I hope you understand. Nothing personal.

>> No.21743502

>>21743490
Cope
>and his (Noah’s) body was white like snow and red like a flower of a rose and the hair of his head [was] white like wool… and his eyes [were] beautiful; and when he opened his eyes, he made the whole house bright like the sun so that the whole house was exceptionally bright. 106:3 And when he was taken from the hand of the midwife, he opened his mouth and spoke to the Lord of Righteousness. 106:4 And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled and went to his father Methuselah. 106:5 And he said to him: “I have begotten a strange son; he is not like a man but is like the children of angels of heaven, of a very different type, and not like us…

>> No.21743508

>>21743493
White should be capitalized. It is the Jewish religion

>> No.21743519

>>21743493
White people are better than black people

>> No.21743521

>>21743508
Not sure what you mean. Colors are not capitalized.

>> No.21743526

>>21743521
*colors

>> No.21743532

>>21743502
Jews are Caucasian, yes. That’s different from explicitly Euro.

>> No.21743534

>>21743526
Heh

>> No.21743546

>>21743532
Noah is blond-haired as opposed to Jewish, and the Semites think its a sign of divine parentage

>> No.21743628

>>21743413
Pajeets don't like White people tho

>> No.21743642

>>21743628
They do, actually.

>> No.21743660

>>21743642
No they don’t

>> No.21743668

>>21743642
Do they? There was a fat pajeeta that released a kids cartoon all about cute white boys getting hurt like in Loonie Toons recently and all I hear from them is bitching about colonialism.
Groping you on a train does not count as "liking"

>> No.21743669

>>21743546
He was white haired, not blond. Possibly albino.

>> No.21743672
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21743672

>>21743669
Noah was a qt

>> No.21743675

>>21743668
That’s an American woman, not a true pajeeta.
>>21743660
Yes, they do. Look at all the videos of European women in India.

>> No.21743706

>>21743675
To quote the other anon, groping you on a train does not count as "liking"

>> No.21743745

thought he was guilty and could not finish the book when i heard he gets off

>> No.21743768

>>21743706
It’s about an obsession. The other guy mentioned reverence.

>> No.21744874
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21744874

>>21743768
I am that anon. Reverence does not equal obsession. I just like Europeans' blue eyes and their cultural achievements, I don't fucking want to rape them like a Pakistani in Britain

>> No.21746163

>>21743209
>No injuries sounds like consent to me.
are you that guy who rapes his wife 3-4 times a week? consentually, of course

>> No.21746172

>>21746163
Married?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sob

But if I’m on the jury the husbands going to walk and the wife is going to be liable for court costs.
Marriage = consent
At all times

>> No.21746191

>>21746172
White women do not have the mental intelligence to consent

>> No.21746405

>>21744874
You’re a spiritual pajeet.

>> No.21747384

>>21746405
Can I have spiritual enlightenment and the ability to stretch my balls?

>> No.21747419

>>21743668
That was actually pretty bad, they showed gore unlike the Loonie Toons and the brown characters gloating over their corpses
I wonder how it got greenlit

>> No.21747819

>>21743105
>to kill a mockingbird
>no information about mockingbird's daily habits and how to hunt them
Dissapointing book

>> No.21747951
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21747951

>>21743403
Non Angli Sed Angeli

>> No.21748202

>>21743141
>>21743330
>In the sequel
I'm pretty sure it wasn't even a sequel but an earlier version of TKAMB that was editted and released as a cash grab by Harper's estate due to her being mentally feeble and unable to protest.

>> No.21748218

>>21748202
P.S. It's likely Truman Capote was heavily involved in editing (even writing) TKAMB and that's why Harper Lee was unable to write anything else. She was his faghag and he tossed her a bone.

>> No.21748231

>>21743254
>this racist must be justified because i am racist and i need to be justified

pottery

>> No.21748240

>>21743488
incredibly brave

>> No.21748362

>>21748231
I know right!
>>21748240
This. So much this.

>> No.21748383

I got the impression the rape was consensual, so the black guy was “innocent.” Fuck I haven’t this since high school.

>> No.21748453

>>21747951
Based Pope knew what he was talking about

>> No.21748612

>>21743128
Didn't he get shot while running away when he was still in police custody?

That's what I seem to remember. If he was innocent and was so convinced the justice system would be do him dirty, then he should've done suicide by cop that much earlier.

>> No.21749794

>>21743130
Bo Ridley is the only truly good character; based Gothic man in the attic