/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21742067]

Ego Ignotus, cum plenum esset forum inanissimis generalibus nequissimisque frequentoribus, quorum fila, libidis tantum causa fixa, cinaedis meretricibusque ornata, nullo modo ad rem fori propositam pertinere arbitrabar, nec plus me sustinere posse, ita dolore adfectus sum ut Latine mihi constituerim scribendum, id quod semper et ubique fas est, ut lucem huc afferrem quandam, quae, Deum rogo, et ad Latine discendum excitet, et sic ignorantiam vulgi depellat.

[Cluster B !GY4CZZOlWY No.21742073]

>>21742067
Lmao did the Romans really say cum every day? Haha thats bussin

[Anonymous No.21742117]

>>21742067
>libidis
libidinis, stulte ranam poster.

[Anonymous No.21742125]

>>21742117
Semper prae me fero me stultum esse.

[Anonymous No.21742138]

>>21742117
Non OP sed: facilius est corregere quam scribere. Scribe aut tace, cinaede.

[Anonymous No.21742157]

>>21742138
>corregere
corrigere.

[Anonymous No.21742171]

>>21742067
>cum plenum
Haha yeah that happens to me sometimes lmao

[Anonymous No.21742184]

>>21742157
kek reading too much Italian and I created a hybrid of the two forms.

[Anonymous No.21742195]

nempe pol lepide scripsti at ecquid obest nobis quin hoc potius in /clg/ fit? id est gerras quotquot sint altero in filo proferre? cur hic vapulo?

[Anonymous No.21742197]

>>21742184
Molto basato.

[Anonymous No.21742242]

>>21742067
how many more llpsi chapters before i can read this

[Anonymous No.21742286]

>>21742195
>at ecquid obest nobis quin hoc potius in /clg/ fit?
Merdas potius ederem, O Plauti lector.

[Anonymous No.21742297]

>>21742242
>cum plenum esset
Sorry but you'll basically have to read the whole book

[Anonymous No.21742564]

>>21742067
Macte virtute, auctor, ut nobis visum, es. Nec unquam sperabat ante in QuattuorChannale talia legere; potius in litteris quibusdam reddita, id set, non Latine, sed aliis sermonibus conscriptis.
Laetamur, ac congratulamur vobis qui omnibus Latine discunt.
Ne umquam oblitis sitis cupiditatem sapientiae, neu in tenebris concesseritis. Curate valeatis

[Anonymous No.21742569]

>>21742564
umquam*, id est*
veniam date

[Anonymous No.21742607]

>>21742564
esto* obliti*
oportet mi plura scribere :(

[Anonymous No.21742734]

Two motions, in English because I am too lazy to latineffortpost right now:

1) Make this a regular thread, distinct from /clg/ (may jannies who disagree boil in molten piss)

2) Rule #1 of Latin club is, if you are going to correct someone, you may not do it snidely, to "score points," or accompanied by insults; all corrections must be constructive, to create a general atmosphere of support and encouragement. Putemus nefas hanc legem perfringere!

[Anonymous No.21743096]

>>21742734
It's impressive how many Latin things I read on this board.
Would it have enough traction to keep going? I think the main issue would be making it unrelated to /clg/ but also a sister thread. Like, leaving /clg/ for general discussions but this other thread for exclusively Greek and Latin conversations, having a rule that states any other languages need to be surrounded by spoilers or something. Definitely support it, though.

[Anonymous No.21743236]

>>21742067
Anna et ranna. Bueno.

[Anonymous No.21743259]

>>21743096
assuming janny would allow it, I don't see how it's going to stay afloat if we can't even hold Latin and Greek discussions on /clg/, I've tried some initiatives but there doesn't seem to be much success in keeping Latin/Greek speaking discussions going
biggest struggle with these both here and elsewhere seems always to be what to actually discuss

[Anonymous No.21743547]

[Anonymous No.21743828]

Just began working on Latin again tonight since starting these books over a year ago, and going through Latin I and II in high school. Any tips gentlemen?

[Anonymous No.21743993]

>>21743828
LLPSI
there are people here who will get all riled up at the mention of that word, but just trust me on this one

[Anonymous No.21744015]

lol cum

[Anonymous No.21744016]

>>21743993
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll add it my list. All I have right now is Henle's fridt year, his Grammar and the first year answer key.

[Anonymous No.21744448]

>>21744016
Definitely keep going on that as well. With both you'll have a great grasp of the language in no time, and there are two books in the LLPSI series so no shortage of good Latin there. The second one delves into actual classical authors, the first 5 chapters being adapted, then no adaptation and you're on your own, but by then you'll be able to read them nicely.

[Anonymous No.21745577]

ecce filum tollo

[Anonymous No.21746022]

utut antea praedixi, nullo pacto filum tantum ad hoc conditum persistit suis viribus depascens
nonnulli conati sunt olim ipsum /clg/ in duobus filis partiri, unum modo ad linguam latinam colendam, alterum ad alias linguas classicas, atque ne quidem sicut in hoc conati modo linguis classicis uti sed anglica quoque; ambo nempe cito Orco traditi sunt infrequentia nuntiorum
quibus argumentis possumus impetrare ut filum sicut e.g qualia ventitant in /int/ patriatim divisa? si quis e.g Theodisce sibi exoptat cum aliis garrire, eccum filum, sed numquam ut patet hoc fit latine aut graece etsi /lit/ ad hoc impetrandum validus esset ob paucitas nuntiorum

[Anonymous No.21746056]

>>21746022
pugnantia loqueris, ut in hoc ipso filo plane cernitur, quod duos iam dies superfuit necdum mortuum est.

te interfice.

[Anonymous No.21746071]

>>21746056
>duos iam dies
hahaahahahahahahahah, visne etiam palmam auream pro re ""tam"" prospera?!
cedo tibi, utinam re vera vivat hoc filum, non obsum, immo potius spero fore constans sine frequentissimis "bump"

[Anonymous No.21746087]

>>21746071
dic igitur quomodo latine didiceris, ne citius etiam moriatur filum, ut dicis.

[Anonymous No.21746139]

>>21746087
optime
quinque fere abhinc annis quum iam delectarer discens linguam theodiscam mihi statui quoque aliquantillum linguae latinae discere multis de causibus, fortasse praecipue ob stirpem et quod etsi scholis secundariis peractis nullam loquelam latinam acceperam
primo incepi illius Wheelock librum legere, verum ut dicam expers olim methodorum sicut LLPSI, fuit vero liber primus a me Google adhibito inventus
postea quum iam sat bene fundamenta grammaticae manducarem, ut opinabar, operam dedi libello ad tironum usum a Francisco Lhomond scripto nomine "De Viris Illustribus Urbis Romae"; expressi hoc libellum chartis et manu rescripsi vertens in lingua vulgari; postea itidem feci cum Caesaris magno opere, illis Commentariis de Bello Gallico
interdum utebar quoque Anki ad vocabula melius retinenda; tandem incepi modo legere quaecumque libuit

[Anonymous No.21746145]

>>21746022
>>21746056
potius vivum manebit hoc filum quam alterum condere novum. mihi vero nil obstat ad colloquendum. fortasse magis est problema ea inopia alicujus dicendi quam nuntios habere. quia saepe videntur nonnulli loquentes, nec jucundae discussiones.

[Anonymous No.21746156]

>>21746145
>inopia alicujus dicendi
valde, istuc est verum fulcrum rei, deest quo colloquium in dies maneat post inceptum
gerrae heu vel anglice "shitposts" celeriter taedium fiunt et paulo post fili mors

[Anonymous No.21746184]

>>21746156
oportet ergo volvere mentem ad alias res.
id est, filum colere habens argumentum vel melius materiam, utut cum de eis loquamur, non solum de lingua nostra res, sed multas habeamus alias.
itaque filum vivet

[Anonymous No.21746202]

>>21746139
>quum
maxime placet orthographia

[Anonymous No.21746216]

>>21746184
recte dixisti, sed, quidnam? exempli gratia apud /int/icolas in filiis patriis possunt de rebus cotidianis in eorum patriis colloqui, de rebus politicis aut de "meme" hodiernis; linguis antiquis ergo mortuis utentibus hoc difficilius impetratu mea sententia, maxime quod nobis prosit si tirones quoque ventitent hoc filum, qui tantum latinitate adhuc impolita queunt verba proferre
res in ambagibus stat

[Anonymous No.21746253]

>>21746216
>linguis antiquis ergo mortuis utentibus hoc difficilius impetratu
severiores utique esse solent antiquae linguae nec ad eius modi dicendum aptae.

[Anonymous No.21746419]

dicite mihi res iucundas (funny) facilesque quas legere possim Familiā Romanā perlectā

[Anonymous No.21746465]

>>21746419
penis dicitur membrum illud corporis quod inter crura viris situm est exque urina effluit.

[Anonymous No.21746523]

Just got done reviewing lesson one, starting lesson two now. Wish me victoria in my studys Anons for the blessings of the Imperieum and another millennium gloriae

[Anonymous No.21746529]

>>21742067
How do I learn Latin?

[Anonymous No.21746551]

>>21746419
mmh scio faciles aut iucundas sed de facilibus atque iucundis ambigo egomet, praecipue ab antiquis scriptis; Plautus ille mea sententia iucundissimus, sed nescio utrum facile lectu tironibus necne; age si vis fac conatum
fortasse Phaedrus ille quoque dilectat fabulis

[Anonymous No.21746582]

>>21746529
Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata Pars I: Familia Romana
is really all you need if you look up the eventual things you don't understand in, say, Allen & Greenough for grammar and Lewis & Short for a great dictionary (check Latinitium).
If you're into first year courses and such, there is Henle, Collar & Daniel, and probably a few others.

[Anonymous No.21746620]

>>21746582
Thank you. I'm not doing any courses, I'd just think it would be cool to be able to read Latin.

[Anonymous No.21746727]

ἡ λατινική ἐστί μᾰλᾰκή

[Anonymous No.21746831]

If I were to learn Latin, would I understand French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and Romanian people?
Or would it simply act as a cheat code to learn those languages faster than most?

[Anonymous No.21747146]

>>21746831
in some sense yes but not necessarily much especially if the phonology changed the words a lot like in French
can't say for sure since I'm a native Romance speaker and a lot of the lexicon between the Romance languages is shared in the first place
but will definitely help learning any of those

[Anonymous No.21748002]

>>21746831
Learning Latin will make it easier to learn the Romance languages but it won’t just magically make them intelligible to you.

[Anonymous No.21748022]

>>21746831
No not really. It will mostly help but teaching you how to understand Indo-European grammar, which trains your mind to see grammar and conjugation first, and see every particular IE language as a subset of it. Makes learning individual languages way quicker.

But the only thing that really makes Romance languages easier to understand is knowing other Romance languages. I knew 2 (+Latin), and when I looked at Italian I was just like lol I already know at least 50% of what's going on here. So I fairly quickly learned to read Italian just by brute forcing it, and then I looked at Spanish/Portuguese and realized I could probably learn them even faster now. But this was more because I already knew the other two, and they have many similar structures and feels to them, none of which are similar to Latin's really.

Latin feels more like German structurally if anything, the way you have to keep track of antecedents in clauses and stuff.

[Anonymous No.21749333]

VI horas mortuum est hoc forum

putavi me tandem liberatum

[Anonymous No.21749341]

>>21746831
>faster than most?
In the time I'd take you to learn Latin to relative fluency you could probably master several Romance languages.

[Anonymous No.21750042]

τὸ τῶν οὐ τῇσι πάλαι γλώσσῃσι χρωμένων πλῆθος πάνυ γε ἀνεκτόν ἐστιν· πέλεται τοῖσι βαρβαρίζουσι τὸ /κλγ/ ἐς τὸ τὰς πάλαι ἱστορεῖν καί τι ἀνερωτᾶν
ὅδε τὸ νῆμα ὑπάρκει ὥς μοι δοκεῖ ἵνα μελετῶμεν τὰς πάλαι

[Anonymous No.21751256]

>>21750042
quod hic scribere velis: conditum
quod gr*ece scribis: cringum

[Anonymous No.21751375]

>>21751256
εὐνάσθετι, ὁ Κάτων

[Anonymous No.21751385]

>>21751256
εὐνάσθητι, ὁ Κάτων

[Anonymous No.21751405]

>>21751385
nescio quid dicas.

[Anonymous No.21751480]

>>21751405

[Anonymous No.21751567]

>>21751480
risi, nunc enim intellego