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Pirate fantasy edition

Previous Thread: >>21717855

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>Goodreads
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>> No.21727753

>>21727748
Couldn’t even wait until page ten, could you?

>> No.21727761

>>21727753
Whatever anon, the old thread has past the bump limit and is about to go to page 10 anyway.

>> No.21727765

>>21727748
Good fucking Christ, couldn’t you used a better image than an AI created one? There are THOUSANDS of classic fantasy paintings and covers, yet you choose to go with this gay ass one.

>> No.21727769

>>21727765
I just picked one at random from Google anon. Who the fuck cares?

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>>21727748
>Soulless AI fantasy image that looks unnatural
I just don’t get the appeal. Old art from actual artists from the past are inherently better, some of which you can find only using a few minutes, yet you went with dogshit.

>>21727769
If you don’t care then why did you even make the thread

>> No.21727780

>>21727779
Because no one cares about the op image. It is just there because you need one.

>> No.21727784

>>21727779
I don't think that's AI, it just looks like a terrible collage

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>>21727780
>Because no one cares about the op image
How can you be this retarded.

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>>21727784
All the images searches leads me to more ai generated images. If it really is a collage, then god damn, its truly god-awful. Don't even know why he even used it.

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>>21727748
>Pirate fantasy edition
Where are the pirates? I don't see any?

>> No.21727820

>>21727787
Kill yourself faggot.

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>>21727748
>Pirate fantasy edition
>Woman warrior wallpaper
what? At least use female pirates, anon if you're going to make a pirate edition thread. They're not that hard to come by.

>> No.21727834

>>21727748
Would a plot based on genetic engineering, be accused of promoting eugenics?

>> No.21727845

>>21727834
That depends. Are you writing it as a leftist or do you have vague right wing and conservative inclinations?

>> No.21727849

>>21727834
Try asking the writing general. >>21718190

>> No.21727852

>>21727845
It really do be like that. Imagine Handmaiden's Tale or Hunger Games with no changes except written by a vocal conservative.

>> No.21727867

>>21727845
I don't know because it could be interpreted both ways.
Basically there is faction in my book that uses genetic engineering to make themselves look like supermodels, they work mostly as infiltrators in social and economic position so they use this as an advantage.
They are also extremely diverse in terms of race and ethnicity for pragmatic reasons(they are less identifiable that way).

>> No.21727870
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/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

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>>21727748
Why are the Vorkosigan books so highly praised? What am I missing? I started with The Warrior's Apprentice and it just feels like YA sci-fi. Miles is also a bit of a dweeb. I wanted something "light" but this is just not doing it for me.

>> No.21727907

>>21727901
I hate this fucking book so much. It's literally If You Give A Mouse A Cookie with overbearing smugness and cuckoldry

>> No.21727945

>>21727830
>use real figures for the fantasy and sci-fi general opening image
brilliant idea cocksucker

>> No.21728003

>>21726605
How much did you spend, anon? I see they're selling "new" copies of it over on AbeBooks for $90.

>> No.21728015

Why do trannys get upset at AI generated art?

>> No.21728098

>/sffg/'s are slow threads on a slow board, they can easily last a week or more

Post the
>last book you read
>current book you're reading
>next book you plan to read
And laugh at OP for being a huge newfag who doesn't understand the point of images on an imageboard. How does your kind even end up on a book forum?

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>>21727803
Definitely photobash circa 2005. It's both too good and too shitty to be AI

>> No.21728106

>>21728015
Because sunlight and exercise are the kyrptonite of trannies, and AI art is an undeniable reminder that tech and art industries are far more vulnerable to automation than blue collar work.

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>>21728098
>Dichronauts
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms

Not sure what i'll read next, maybe Fooled by Randomness

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Bakker Update?

>> No.21728157

>>21728098
>last book you read
The Sleepless Ones volume 3
>current book you're reading
The Sleepless Ones volume 4
>next book you plan to read
The Sleepless Ones volume 5

Not a very good series though. First two were okay.

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>>21728151
https://youtu.be/N_vJMHMBzLM
His last blog update was over 3 years ago.

>> No.21728171

>>21728098
TWI vol 2
TWI vol 3
Hellcats

>> No.21728181

>>21728157
>not a very good series
>on book 4 and planning to read book 5
heh
i've done this before

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>>21728151
All time peak /sffg/ was pretty much when Bakker was still publishing.

This general has gone to shit since then. A snooze fest if you ask me.

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Bakker is King.

Simple as.

>> No.21728318

>>21728098
>last book you read
How I Found Livingstone by Henry Stanley
>current book you're reading
The Clark Ashton Smith collection
>next book you plan to read
The Fiery Angel by Walsh

>> No.21728331

I'm reading Perdido street station and the bugs thing is grossing me tf out anons

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supremacy of bakker forever true
his dick in pussy forever screw
a white candadian not a jew
his cum thick and white like glue

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Reposting from the earlier thread, but what fantasy has the most badass portrayal of wizards?

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About to star pic related.

I like the sound of the concept of society being divided based on parts of the light spectrum they can see.

Anyone read it? Seems to have good reviews.

>> No.21728376

>>21728359
we love casting spells

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>>21728359

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>>21726502
People like you are why I love /lit/. You can't find reasonable and well informed takes like this about niche literature anywhere else.
>But Taylor's power isn't weak, it's ridiculously busted right out of the gate.
Yes.

>>21727208
>in the endgame she gets gigabuffed to literal galaxy brain tier, and then gigabuffed again ontop of that
I am so glad I dropped that shit. Worm is as long as 10 regular novels. Had I read it till the end just for this to happen, I wouldn't be able to cope with the seethe over wasted time.

>>21725122
>Rational fiction (ratfics) is just group of people who like their fiction coherent and logical, even if other aspects of the story don't work.
This is what confuses me the most. None of the so called rational fiction I've read has been coherent and logical. Writing rational stories is so difficult I am not sure it can occur. I suspect it would take a sufficiently rational author to do it. But humans aren't rational. And if a rational human were to exist, they would spend their time more wisely.

>> No.21728433 [DELETED] 

new thread WHEN?

>> No.21728440

>>21728433
Page 10

>> No.21728451

>>21728408
The ending wasn't the issue, the previous arc was so long, drawn out, boring, and pointless that I was GLAD to have Taylor get gigabuffed through deux ex machina because it meant the story could finally END. Golden morning was a breath of fresh air compared to slaughterhouse 9000, which was possibly the worst idea ever considered and implemented in a story intentionally.
>lets take the most controversial and disliked arc of the story with characters NO ONE ever wants to see ever again and BRING THEM ALL BACK
>but they're CLONES, so they have EVEN LESS CHARACTER
>and in order to get rid of them, we have to do the entire arc AGAIN, MULTIPLE TIMES IN A ROW

>> No.21728461

>>21728384
CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
We just posted cunny.

>> No.21728577

>>21728408
You can attempt some rationality, SFF is laden with huge plot holes and bad writing DUE TO the meticulous autism of trying to make a coherent world, to the exclusion of a rational story. I also think, different anon btw and I'm not really in the ratfic circles, that it's targeting a limited scope of rational action. That is, someone should act naturally irrational and not tank the verisimilitude to the point you're once again aware that you're staring at words on a page. I see the problem more in mysteries where the author is working backwards trying to figure out how to connect the protagonist with a plot hook or key informationnand the result is "what the fuck did I just read?"

>> No.21728645

>>21728367
Actually just realised it is a 3 book series. This book was released in 2009,second book is due 2024 and the third fuck knows when.

Dropped until at least the second book is out.

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can someone redpill me on these books?

>> No.21728660

>>21728656
she doesn't

>> No.21728668

>>21728656
nice covers

>> No.21728675

>>21728656
I believe their subject matter may or may not concern lupines.

>> No.21728679

>>21728408
The talk about "weak powers" made me think that I've almost never seen a book or story or anything with "the protagonist has weak powers but uses them fancily to overcome this hurdle" actually have the protagonist have a truly weak ability, they simply have one that on the surface is underwhelming. I've seen at least a couple cases where it's more played as "the creative uses + extra hard work mean they're JUST on par with others" and that's generally more believable for me, but you get a lot where it's like "they thought about this ability for five minutes and became the most broken being around".

>> No.21728747

>>21728656
You just know what it's about. I'm getting knockoff Farseer vibes.

>> No.21728753

>>21728679
>The talk about "weak powers" made me think that I've almost never seen a book or story or anything with "the protagonist has weak powers but uses them fancily to overcome this hurdle" actually have the protagonist have a truly weak ability, they simply have one that on the surface is underwhelming
That's just one part of it. The other part is that everyone else is written as idiot who doesn't know how to use their power.

Some novels have somewhat competent protagonists. But very very few have anyone else who's remotely competent.

>> No.21728768

>>21727830
>Woman warrior wallpaper
cringe indeed

>> No.21728769

Any good sci-fi/fantasy horror books?

Not including Blindsight or Between two Fires.

>> No.21728771

>>21728660
Book 7 is "Wolf's Bulging Knot".

>> No.21728774

>>21728769
Permutation City

>> No.21728793

>>21728769
Metro 2033

>> No.21728808

>>21728774
Doesn't seem like a horror book anon.
>>21728793
I've had this for a while but not rwad it. Played the games though, I'll add it to the short list.

>> No.21728816

>>21728769
the night land
annihilation but ONLY the first one. whatever you do ONLY read the first one

>> No.21728820

>>21728808
The personality editing stuff was spooky.

>> No.21728834

>>21728808
not that anon but metro 2033 does a pretty fantastic job with its horror scenes. it's pretty introspective and political like most russian books i've read so it's hard to call it a horror book but the way it describes the terror of the tunnels is legit

>> No.21728844

>>21728816
>ONLY read the first one
What is wrong with the other books? First book is only 184 pages.

>> No.21728849

>>21728774
obligatory mention of dark city although not a book and a big spoiler

>> No.21728872

>>21728844
the second one is literally mostly just gay petty office drama + gay american grievance politics i.e. main character is latino, he reminisces for pages on end about the discrimination he faced. and his main opponent in the gay office drama is a stronk black wahmen who also overcame discrimination
the third one at least is plot relevant but fails to resolve half the mysteries laid out by the first one and gives the most embarrassing, unsatisfying, mundane revelations about the rest.

but the first one is just exquisitely spooky and atmospheric. it's hard to believe the same guy wrote all three

>> No.21728877

>>21728872
Meh, think I'll skip it. I enjoyed the film.

>> No.21728884

>>21728877
okay, that's fair. the film is a different animal entirely, but it was at least a creative attempt at an adaptation if nothing else. elevated by great visual and audio design

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>>21727779
>top comes off
>tiddies be like
I hate boobplate so much it's unreal

>> No.21728924

>>21728656
>Randomly puts in a non-wolf related title
RUINNED

>> No.21729031

>>21728769
Night Winds

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>>21728098
>last book you read
The Man Who Folded Himself - easily the best time travel paradox novel I read.
>current book you're reading
ales of the Dying Earth - you can tell this was written in the 50s. It's very... whimsical, and lacks gravity? Vance is no Gene Wolfe, but I'm still having fun with it.
>next book you plan to read
That's going to be Radix, Shockwave Rider or Stand on Zanzibar. I'm in the mood for some proto-cyberpunk this spring.

>> No.21729079

sincere question: to what extent is the gay cuckoldry supposedly present in bakker novels overstated or not? seems good otherwise

>> No.21729099

>>21729079
Homosexual rape is used for shock value in a couple of scenes, but it's not an omnipresent theme.

>> No.21729107

>>21729053
if you're reading tales of the dying earth and this is the way you see it (completely in line with my thoughts on it btw), you owe it to yourself to now read lyonesse by vance. there won't be a better time for it. you're used to his style now, you appreciate it and are in a prime position to fully appreciate the story. vance's style is whimsical like you said and at times i felt like there was a tonal clash between the setting and the whimsical style. but in lyonesse, all the elements fit together perfectly
by the way, if you're just starting the dying earth, it might end up growing on you even more by the time you're done.

>> No.21729128

>>21729053
>The Man Who Folded Himself
Added to my backlog.
+1 for Radix.

>> No.21729151

>>21729107
All right, I will. Thanks for the lead, fren

>> No.21729158

>>21729151
np anon, hope you enjoy it as much as i did. and even if you don't, it's still better to read it now as opposed to a few years from now, because you'd need to get accustomed to vance's style all over again
btw i also added the man who folded himself to my list.

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>I will be working to release Volume 1 soon. The hope is Saturday—and we will see if I need time to release it instead of writing a regular chapter. But we’ll see. I would have liked not to take another moment off…but the complications continue.

Wandering Inn sisters, the time has come...

>> No.21729204

>>21729053
>Radix
I loved this up until the part where the furries are introduced. Not because of the furries themselves but because there's a huge break in the action and then these new characters are introduced. Is it worth reading past that point?

I have never managed to finish a AAA novel btw.

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name 1 (three) fun fantasy novels that aren't written by discworld or game of thrones guy

>> No.21729236

>>21728359
Clark Ashton Smith’s work, and especially Conan the Barbarian.

>> No.21729237

>>21729220
Wizard Knight
Harry Potter
J

Jackie Chan

>> No.21729343

>>21729237
The Wizard Knight sounds like an interesting isekai

>> No.21729391

>>21729220
codex alera for fun easily digestible entry level classic hero's journey that doesn't overstay its welcome

first law for decent grim dark shit that isn't too grim dark

>> No.21729400

>>21729053
>very... whimsical, and lacks gravity
It's, what do want to call it? Weird Fiction. A lot of weird fiction from that period is like that. I do think Dying Earth gets better further in, some of it feels like he had no idea what he's trying to do other than set a mood. Wait until you start seeing the fingerprints of it in other words, Vance had an unusual influence that kept reviving through the generations.

>> No.21729426

>>21729176
>>21729195
What is with the royal road books? Is this the way to go?

>> No.21729432

>>21729220
Belgariad desu
The Spirit Ring by Lois Mcmaster Bujold
Inferno by David Niven and Jerry Pournelle

>>21729343
it's very esoteric, not for the faint-hearted
if you want a more "mundane" isekai/portal fantasy, try Andrew Klavan's "Another Kingdom" trilogy, very easy and fast-paced read.

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>>21728209
>>21728190
>>21728160
>>21728151
Based and Bakkerpilled.

>> No.21729467

>>21729343
It's a difficult read and didn't hold my attention even though I love his other work.

>> No.21729483

https://pastebin.com/ukk8pR96

How does this read?

>> No.21729484

>>21729426
>What is with the royal road books? Is this the way to go?
You okay bro? Reverend insanity was never on RR, TWI has left RR years ago.

>> No.21729528

>>21729343
I had to force myself to finish it. It felt too random, like at any moment I couldn't be sure whether or not the current scene was just a dream or not, and that made it impossible for me to invest, since I was always waiting for the shoe to drop.

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>>21728359
The answer is The Mask of the Sorcerer

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>>21728656
It's like Farseer but with a bigger scale and with much less suffering (and no cucking). The main character is a wild woman raised by magic wolves that can talk. she likes to be barefoot and hates taking baths.
>>21728771
I know you're just shitposting but she wrote a sequel set 10 years after the main story where the mc marries her wolf companion, she gets turned into a wolf and realizes she always loved him, most of her fans pretend that the new duology never happened, not even the old ladies at goodreads liked it.

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>>21727748
DAMN, he's good.

>> No.21729599

>>21729577
>It's like Farseer
Imagine for a second that I haven't read or even heard about those books
because I haven't

>> No.21729631

>>21729426
rr is cucked, their rules on what authors are allowed to publish are retarded. Something like RI would probably be too "traumatizing" for rr readers

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>>21727748
Endymion, Hyperion Cantos #3 - Dan Simmons (1996)

Endymion opens with the line: You are reading this for the wrong reason. It then goes into why you shouldn't be reading it, which sets up the expectation for what it is, and what it isn't, about. It's a bold, reckless even, move to intentionally try to filter your readership, which does imply a degree of contempt for at least some of them. The narrator of this frame story who is writing it out as he goes along means a hypothetical in-universe reader, though he may as well mean you, personally.

So, let me be clear about what this novel is. On a reductive level it's a novel length chase. The two POVs are those on the journey and the ones pursuing them, though more accurately the pursuers spend far more time investigating and especially waiting for their quarry to arrive than anything else. It may be closer to call them anticipators. After considering how preordained everything feels to be and that almost every character seems to be just going through the motions with varying degrees of self-awareness that that they are, that seems to be an apt description. I found myself liking the supposed antagonists, especially the viewpoint character, most of all. The alleged protagonists were rather lacking and if it were only from their viewpoint then this would've been a substantially worse novel.

I don't think Endymion succeeds as a work of entertainment, though maybe that wasn't its purpose. It may instead be intended as a follow-up text of in-universe mythology, history, and religion. A New Testament if you will to the Old Testament of the in-universe Cantos. The Criterion of Embarrassment comes to mind when considering this supposed story of an incipient messiah. It's such an unflattering tale of persecution and being led along the way by some greater power that it must have happened as was written. If that was Simmons's intent, then he did well, and perhaps those who aren't me were able to greatly enjoy it for that. There may be a lot of metaphors, allegories, and symbolic content that I didn't notice other than what I did, but if there were, well, that's too bad for me.

Endymion doesn't stand on its own. However, the last one may also just be more questions without any answers aside from those you create for yourself. I'm disappointed by how much it failed to deliver in terms of entertainment for me and I don't think the next will be any different, but I'll read it anyway. My greatest problem with it is that it brings up a lot of interesting ideas and concepts and then explores basically none of them. Instead, a near majority of it is spent as shown on the cover, a raft. That makes for a pulpy adventure novel, and if that was all it were, my rating would be lower. The ending wasn't notable this time, perhaps because there's statement about how the in-universe author of the previous two books received what he believed to be excessive criticism about his endings.

Rating: 3/5

>> No.21729703

>>21729695
Endymion /sffg/ Consensus (30 ratings)
1 stars: 2
2 stars: 5
3 stars: 11
4 stars: 4
5 stars: 8

1-2 stars: 23%
3 stars: 37%
4-5 stars: 40%

GR Rating: 4.18 / 55,882 ratings
/sffg/ rating: 3.37 / 30 ratings

After perusing the archives, it seems to be similar. There is great praise and hate. Strangely a perspective of it being meh/decent/ok/whatever seems to be absent. That may be because only those who felt deeply cared enough to comment. Based on my reading of this book and the thoughts of others, I don't think it's all that bad. By comparison to the first two books it may be severely lacking, and I struggled with whether to rate it 2.5 or 3, but that's fine. Maybe I'll feel differently after reading the last book, but as far as I can currently tell, the absolute hate for it is unwarranted and may just be a few vocal haters. In recent terms it seems to mostly be a guy read the 4th book in early January of this year. I wouldn't personally recommend continuing past the second book at this time, but that's only a personal preference and as can be seen by the ratings, you, hypothetical reader, have a substantial chance of at least liking it.

>> No.21729761

>>21729528
>>21729467
filtered by his easiest work, all you have to know for that one is Arthurian legends

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>>21729761
>all you have to know for that one is Arthurian legends
Anon, the average /ssfg/ poster doesn't even know who Thomas Malory is.

>> No.21729905

>>21729795
Who dat? He like Lovecraft?

>> No.21729945 [DELETED] 

>>21729695
>>21729703
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

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I ask this in complete seriousness and with the best of intentions: when does this get good?

I just finished Shadow of the Torturer and I wasn't really that impressed. The first part with Severian in the tower was kino and I was pretty invested, but as soon as he went out into the city it became truly bizarre. Am I just being filtered? Why did all the women instantly fall in love with him and want to fuck him? Was he just being horny when the titties kept popping out of every female character's dress, or is there some deeper meaning that will only be revealed later? It was very jarring. I also wasn't overly impressed with the writing style, beyond the unique words it was pretty workmanlike.

Does it get better in Claw of the Conciliator?

>> No.21730100

>>21730058
>Does it get better in Claw of the Conciliator?
Oh yes. Shadow is pretty much just setting things up for the wild fucking ride that's coming.

>> No.21730103

>>21730058
It doesn't change, so for you it won't get better.

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Read Tales from the Flat Earth by Tanith Lee. Some of the best writing in fantasy (if you like lavish prose). Extremely kino, especially the third book. Has to be one of the best series I've ever read.

>> No.21730124

>>21730058
If you don't like it from the start you won't like it at all. BOTNS is unironically high-level literature that most normies can't grasp. Same deal as why normies don't like The Illiad.

>> No.21730129

>>21730113
How much gay shit is there? I like her prose but I don't want to read a story about a baby getting buttfucked by demons again.

>> No.21730142

>>21730100
Alright I guess I'll take a chance on it then.

>>21730103
We'll see about that I suppose.

>>21730124
Ahh yes bitch's titties popping out of their dresses and wanting some hot torturer cock on sight is high-level literature. I've read James Joyce, I've read the Greeks, and I'm sorry to say this hasn't measured up so far. I'm still willing to give it a chance though. I pretty easily understood the philosophical points that Severian made throughout the narrative, I just didn't see how they matched the bizarre and contrived events of the plot.

>> No.21730143

>2 days until Circle of Inevitability
Finally some good fucking mystery kino.

>> No.21730159

>>21730142
If you think high-level literature means James Joyce, Realism and deliberately vague philosophical messages, then BOTNS is not for you.

>> No.21730170

>>21730129
As far as I remember, very little. There are a few gay characters, but it's not put upon like modern fiction. The first book (Night's Master, which I posted) is made up of a number of interlinking tales, one of which has a male protagonist who falls in love the lord of demons, Azhrarn. Other than that there aren't many that come to mind but I might be misremembering.

There are however a number of hetero sex scenes which are written in a pretty funny way, and these freaky dwarves who love to fuck spiders, but other than that it is a far cry from Bakker, VERY far.

It's inspired by the Arabian Nights which has its fair share of degeneracy. There is definitely an erotic touch, but it's not straight up torture porn like Bakker, and Lee could write circles around Bakker any day.

>> No.21730173

>>21730170
>The first book (Night's Master, which I posted) is made up of a number of interlinking tales, one of which has a male protagonist who falls in love the lord of demons, Azhrarn.
That's the one.

>> No.21730177

>>21730159
k chud

>> No.21730213

>>21730173
If you read the Arabian Nights or mythology you encounter similar things. It's not like, "Sivesh, who was totally queer and brave and a sapiosexual, fell in love at first sight with the demon." This was written in the 70s, the fact that he's gay is not central to the narrative. He also has a wife that is made for him by the demon lord. Bakker has literally thousands of pages detailing cannablist gay demon rape orgies, this has like a couple pages in which a gay character appears. If you can't handle that idk what to tell you lol.

>> No.21730298

>>21730213

You do understand that Bakker is just a meme in this thread right? Literally a forced meme by a publisher guerilla marketing team, here and maybe goodreads. Absolutely nobody should be reading Bakker for any reason, ever.

>> No.21730316

>>21730298
I realize that, though I read all of them and enjoyed them up until the last book. But yeah I get he is memed on here just like BotNS

>> No.21730365

>>21729795
>Thomas Malory
Why should I? King Arthur books are shit.

>> No.21730371

any books like the original series of star trek or a little bit of tng that aren't the tie-in books

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Title: Zeal of Mind and Flesh
Author: Marvin Whiteknight


It seemed to have some potential, but ends up being barely coherent mess. It starts like some weird sci-fi, then turns into some sort of survival in wilderness story, just to become a cultivation story with elves, from all things. Then it just gets boting with some uninspired and stupid cheap plot.

It's trash, honestly. I've seen worse, but an erotica book should be at least good at being erotic. This here barely counts as erotica, beyond a setting that could theoretically support a lot of sex. But nah, it just drops the ball and gives 2/10 porn.

Trash. Dunno why some other anon said this author was good, it was a waste of time.

Rating: 3/10

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>>21730371
Starbridge by A.C Crispín
Liaden Universe
Foreigner by CJ Cherryh

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>>21730387
>Whiteknight

>> No.21730427

>>21730387
I never actually read that series, I read his Paladin series and I thought that was pretty good. I'm pretty sure he's meant to be at least semi-comedic and the jokes at least occasionally land in that one. Though they get a bit absurd in the later books.

>> No.21730432

>>21730422
He just goes by Marvin Knight now, so I guess even he realised it was stupid.

>> No.21730443

>>21730387
You have no right to judge this book so harshly, when it was shown that your taste compass is corrupt. You okay MTL chink shit, but give an obvious on the nose comedy book such low ratings.

>> No.21730520

>>21730443
>You okay MTL chink shit, but give an obvious on the nose comedy book such low ratings.
The fuck you are talking about. I didn't read a single MTL xianxia in my life. And if there was comedy in this book it must have been so fucking weak I couldn't notice it. Utterly cliche, without an ounce of fun.

>> No.21730539 [DELETED] 

>>21730387
>>21730520
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>> No.21730545

>>21730520
Did you put that mysteries shit on a chart the other day, along with some of your other reviews?

>> No.21730651

>>21730545
I ain't made a single chart in my life, and I havent read Lord of Mysteries yet.
Take your meds, anon

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How does one create a compelling fantasy race?

>> No.21730755

>>21730734
Why does the bunny have a bulge?

>> No.21730763

>>21730734
Make them inhuman but still somehow more human than human.

>> No.21730806

>>21730755
That's the compelling part.

>> No.21730829

>>21730734
Wrong board, retard >>>/tg/

>> No.21730894

Trying to remember a horror fantasy book recommended in another thread.
I can't remember much about the book's plot, but I do remember the cover; it was bright red with a stylized image of a black knight in the centre.
Anyone know what I'm thinking of?

>> No.21730991

>>21730763
i fucking hate fantasy

>> No.21730996 [DELETED] 

>>21730894
beyond two reddits
it's shit

>> No.21731004 [DELETED] 

so is bakker a meme or not?

>> No.21731011

>>21731004
Do you know what organic discussion looks like? Asking at all puts that in question.

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>>21731004
>Hear good things about Bakker
>Start reading Prince of Nothing book one
>Main character belongs to a special bloodline and has a special unpronuncable title, exactly like Dune
>Main character is so smart and strong can mind control first normal person he comes across and can slay multiple enemy warriors with ease
>Beast man race of faceless mooks
>Literally has an epic wizard battle with a generic "dark rider" in the Prologue
>This is the "peak" of genre fantasy according to /sffg/

>> No.21731045

>>21731004
I'd rather waste time with trash tier webnovels or MTL xianxia even

>> No.21731049 [DELETED] 

>>21730298
>>21730316
>>21731004
>>21731011
>>21731017
he writes good battle scenes but when he gets away from the nitty gritty and into the magic shit and personal relationships it goes to shit

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>>21731004
>>21731017
you can bet some idiot is going to reply to this retarded fagtasy jargon with "kino" like a fucking GPT-3 bot

>> No.21731098 [DELETED] 

>>21731077
KINO
mogs tolkien

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>boring as fuck for 500 pages
>great for the last 400
Wall of Storms was like this, too. Is the last book in the series similar?

>> No.21731182

>>21731127
Pretty much

>> No.21731194

>>21731077
'Furnace-hearted dragon' is a pretty good line at least

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>>21731077
I just finished TUC and now I have the urge to go back and start again.

>> No.21731216

>>21731194
Flaming-faggot dragon

>> No.21731217

>>21731194
Feels like I've seen it at least a few times. Or at least similar ideas to comparing a dragon's heart to a forge or something.

>> No.21731222

>>21731194
sounds like something out of iron dragon's daughter considering dragons are fighter jets in that series

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>>21731216
>Flaming-faggot dragon

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Is this any good? High rating both on the spreadsheet and GR.

>> No.21731327

How long do you think it will be until AI generated novels become the normal thing people read?

>> No.21731329

>>21731327
Almost certainly never.

>> No.21731330

>>21731327
Chuck Tingle will never allow it

>> No.21731358

>>21731322
The first thing to ask yourself is: in this in a genre that I like? In this case self-published urban warfare game or something. Next look at how many ratings there are. If it's a only a few, it may just be a niche interest and not to be trusted unless you have similar taste.

In my opinion, it's garbage. Read a free excerpt.

>> No.21731360

>>21730996
>beyond two reddits
BASED. i kek'd.

>> No.21731436

>>21731327
They way I've always eh um imagined it would happen is that when you get stuck you just ask your ai what happens next. Like outlining with steering assist. That and it could be a great editor, not just for grammar but plot holes and such.

>> No.21731573

>Miller goes on to posit three stages in the development of literature: first, children's fairy tales; second, hero tales which border on or perhaps include realism; and third, a second fantasy stage, an "adult fantasy" stage, represented by writers like Lord Dunsany and CAS. Most readers, he argues, have not evolved to this third stage; they must painstakingly work their way through the earlier stages, including realism, in order to attain appreciation of the kind of work CAS is doing. In short, the work of CAS transcends realism, and is the most sophisticated genre of literature.

CAS's essays on fantasy and realism have blown my mind. *Of course* fantasy is the highest form of literature. Of course "realism" is an ugly fad that will hopefully soon go away.

Highly recommend these short reads:

http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/nonfiction/23/on-fantasy
http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/nonfiction/30/realism-and-fantasy

>> No.21731577

>>21731182
guess i'll just have to power through the boring parts

>> No.21731583

>>21731573
In this age of institutional deceit, where many serious intellectual people are re-examing their priors about things as basic as flat earth and germ theory, this quote stands out:

>Tomorrow, the accepted theories of science and human psychology may be superceded by a brand-new lot; and it is partly because of this shifting, unstable ground on which the thing called realism stands, that I regard pure, frank fantasy as a more valid and lasting art-expression of the human mind.

>> No.21731616

In the land of the blind, the Bakker-eyed man is KING

>> No.21731623

>>21731327
The near future isn't traditional novels but interactive storytelling. I think it's possible if not probable that humans will spend more time reading AI generated than human literature in less than 10 years.

>>21731436
AI assisted writing is already happening. It's good at prose and editing but its ability to emulate characters better than any human is more valuable.

>> No.21731686

>>21731583
>pure [...] fantasy
is not a thing. all fantasy is heavily based on realism as we perceive it because we need it to relate. how many fantasy novels can you name that don't feature humanoid characters and physical principles like time, gravity or space? and this is just scratching the surface

the true path is not realism nor a rejection of realism but better than realism. entertainment is escapism

>> No.21731696

>>21731686
Realism in the arts is generally the attempt to represent subject matter truthfully, without artificiality and avoiding speculative and supernatural elements.

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>>21731686
> how many fantasy novels can you name that don't feature humanoid characters and physical principles like time, gravity or space?

>> No.21731808

>>21729204
If you mean the part where he stays with the tribe then that's a huge meditation and self-growth arc.

>> No.21731813

>>21731573
>capeshitter argues people who look down on capeshit are the real capeshitters
groundbreaking stuff

>> No.21731867

>>21731808
OK sounds like I made the right call by dropping it.

>> No.21732209

Finished Hyperion and just got the sequel in the mail today.
That'll keep me busy for the next week.

>> No.21732247

>>21731077
>Weapon races are slightly interesting constructs of a forgotten bioengineering science
>One of the weapon races is just basic bitch "dragons"

Bravo, Bakker. Bravo.

>> No.21732265

>>21728656
You just know

>> No.21732286

>thought I liked sci-fi
>what I actually like is soft sci-fi and space operas
I'm sorry nerdbros...

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>turns the childhood friend into a crackwhore
What the hell is wrong with Hamilton? This is vile degeneracy of the worst kind.

>> No.21732304

>>21732286
Pussy ass bitch boy

>> No.21732407

>>21728098
>last book
Przedwiośnie by Stefan Żeromski

>current book
The wandering inn by pirateaba

>next book
The master and margarita by Michail Bulgakov

I like to read a simple novel in between something harder, keeps me from burning out.

>> No.21732415

>>21732407
MAM IS "simple"

>> No.21732436

>>21732415
Yeah but it’s still a novel where you have to think.

>> No.21732464

I'm trying to read Harrow the Ninth but it feels like a huge mess

>> No.21732470

>>21732464
I tried to read the first book but I don't like the authors writing style. Might try again someday but the writing didn't grab me.

>> No.21732488

>>21731322
>mc is a poo
I mean it's better than having a woman mc but still...

>> No.21732536

>>21728769

Kane by Karl Edward Wagner and Clark Ashton's works in Zothique or Averoigne are great examples of short stories that have macabre or horrific elements.

Song of Kali balances the fantastical with the very real horrors of India, and Dan Simmons also of course wrote The Terror

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Finished this yesterday

9/10

It's a pretty long book (739 pages) but it flies by as you read it. The words just flow and there is plenty going on that it never seems to drag.

Plenty of action, plot twists and a variety of different characters. The story is told from two different timelines, one where the MC (Gabriel de Leon) is 16 and joins the order of Silversaints (a holy order that kills vampires) and when he is 32 some time after he has become a legendary hero saving the empire and having killed the forever king.

It is sort of like an interview with a vampire, it starts with Gabrial having been captured by the vampires and whilst imprisoned he is made to recall his life's story as one of the vampire historians journals it for the vampire Empress. There is a reason for this but it is a spoiler so won't say why.

The last couple of chapters felt a bit rushed and there was one plot twist that felt out of place, but overall A really good book. Hopefully the 2'nd book comes soon.

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thoughts about this?

Thinking of reading something different after finishing volume 3 of Lord of the mysteries before I continue with volume 4 onwards.

>> No.21732686

>>21732682
It's litrpg so I don't like it

>> No.21732692

>>21732558
Does it do anything to make vampires interesting?

>> No.21732717

>>21732692
There's nothing really unique about the vampires that set them apart from other vampires in general, but isn't the Twilight kind of vampire shit.

The usual holy water burns them, silver hurts them etc. There are 4 different bloodlines actually 5 that have their own unique powers like compulsion, strength, able to talk to animals and the old and most powerful ones.

It is the characters of the vampires that make them interesting, not so much that they are vampires or them being unique.

The Silversaints are also halfbreeds known as palebloods who inherit powers from the bloodline of the vampire who seeded their mother's.

There isn't really anything unique about the story or setting, there is one thing but it has probably been done before in some other way. There is something that caused light from the sun to be blocked out, like some kind of veil call daysdeath. No one knows what caused it but part of the story is about lifting it, can't say more without going into spoilers.

If you like vampires and that type of setting you will enjoy it.

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>>21732464
Harrow (the character) is a huge mess and it's written to reflect that.

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>>21731194
Bakker describes dragons pretty vividly
>Billowing gusts staggered those standing, waved the arms of those fallen. Cries of dismay and horror rifled the air, then a cataract of boiling gold engulfed Nautzera and the High King’s attendants. There was no time for screams. Teeth cracked. Bodies tumbled like coals from a kicked fire.

>With the force of a toppled tower, the dragon thundered to earth, his descent yanking smoke and ash into towering veils. Portcullis jaws clacked shut. Wings like war-galley sails stretched out. The light of burning corpses shimmered across iridescent scales of black.
He actually makes their fire breath sound formidable in a world of magic, which most fantasy fails to do nowadays.

>> No.21732748

>>21732247
Much like Bakker's version of elves the wracu are a dark reflection of dragons. Both have gone schizo since the first apocalypse, so when we meet them in the story they're just sad echoes of the visions Achamian has of the the past.

>> No.21732759

>>21727787
this is Gormenghast

>> No.21732912

>>21729220
I founds these fun
1. Fostering Faust
2. Night lord sunset
3. The lightbringer (Brent weeks)

>> No.21733050 [DELETED] 

>>21732558
>>21732717
your """reviews""" are shit
FUCK OFF

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>>21733050
>Stop talking about books!!!

>> No.21733065

any promising near-future science fiction dealing with the implications of neural nets?

>> No.21733079 [DELETED] 

>>21733061
Your reviews are shit, the books you review are shit, so FUCK OFF

>> No.21733087

>>21733065
It usually isn't about the specific origin of the AI, but rather what they do.

>> No.21733104

>>21733087
the origin and the specific workings of the technology determine what kind of near-future you would write about. a 1950s portrayal of AI should be very different from something released in the 2020s

>> No.21733116

>>21733050
That is the first time I have posted a review here. How about you go back to redit?

This board is for the discussion of books. It isn't even a review, I just gave it a score and a brief overview for anyone else who might be interested in reading it.

You are most likley one of those retards who only comes to these threads tp post about Bakker and the 5 other books that you morons continuously post about every thread.

>> No.21733120

>>21733116
Anytime someone wants to actually do anything constructive there are people waiting to shit on it.

>> No.21733123

>>21733116
Remember to report and ignore low-quality and off-topic posts, friend. :)

>> No.21733142

I don't mind people posting reviews for books they actually recommend, but we get a lot of reviews for obscure books here that are "mediocre/10". I've never heard of the book, wasn't likely to, and you aren't endorsing it, so what's the point? Reviews like that are better suited to a blog with a search feature.

>> No.21733146

>>21733142
Then don't read the post you fucking mongoloid.

>> No.21733148 [DELETED] 

>>21733116
Your reviews are shit, the books you read are shit, FUCK OFF
>>21733120
>>21733123
>seething reviewfags mad at me exposing them
>>21733142
because reviewfags are autistic spergs shilling their goodreads accounts and the shitty chinkshit/erotica they think is entertaining

>> No.21733183

>>21733142
Sounds like you'd be better off in a circlejerking hugbox echo chamber.

>> No.21733213

>>21728098
Dead Space Catalyst. It was okay.
Halo Contact Harvest. I would really be enjoying if not for the constant sexual innuendo.
Star Wars Hard Contact.

>> No.21733229

I'm scared to post my own fantasy novel because people are going to make fun of me.

>> No.21733233

>>21733229
I'm scared as well as it's YA romance and I'm afraid people will dox me or something like that.

>> No.21733319

>>21728098
>last
"Chanur's Legacy" by CJ Cherryh. It was good but a bit of a drag. The insight into alien interspecies communication was good.
>current
"Cyteen", again by CJ Cherryh. An interesting delve into psychology and human nature. If you clone someone, and try to recreate their life from childhood, in the same way as the original (or as close as you can get), will they grow up to be just like them?
>next
Cyteen is a trilogy and I will follow with the second book in the series, "Regenesis".

>> No.21733323

>>21733229
is it a; Main character only has to try a little and gets everything they ever wanted?
Because you don't have to wonder its shit.

>>21733233
is it a; Main character only has to try a little and gets everything they ever wanted while not swearing?
Because you don't have to wonder its shit.

>> No.21733333

>>21733323
There is some swearing. The characters have to go through a lot of emotional torment, and each has the shit kicked out of them by the main villain.

>> No.21733358

>>21733333
Wasted.

>> No.21733414

>>21733323
>is it a; Main character only has to try a little and gets everything they ever wanted?
>Because you don't have to wonder its shit.
No. It's about a girl trying to solve a mystery.

>> No.21733430

>>21731194
I think it would have been better if he stuck to calling them Wracu. He doesn't call the Nonmen elves, or the Sranc goblins.

>> No.21733479 [DELETED] 

>>21733183
If you'd better go to a circlejerking hugbox echo chamber if you don't want to be called out for your SHIT REVIEWS.

FUCK OFF.

>> No.21733521 [DELETED] 

>>21733479
BASED

>> No.21733527 [DELETED] 

new thread WHEN?

>> No.21733676

>>21732558
Just started reading it. I like it so far, thanks for posting your thoughts.

>> No.21733890

>>21733676
No probs, enjoy it, mon ami.

>> No.21734002

>>21731327
Bar is too high
AI cover art is common
AI grammar helper is also something that might happen

>> No.21734137

>>21733414
is the twist that she can't because she gets lost on the road?

>> No.21734179

>>21734137
No the twist is the culprit is her undead brother to which she must now choose to send him away forever or let him live on.

>> No.21734251

>>21733229
If it's trad published, you definitely don't want to post it here as the author. If it's self-published, you don't even need to post it for me to laugh.

>> No.21734330

>>21734251
I'll never publish it then!

>> No.21734340

>>21734330
Good. It's shit.

>> No.21734432

>>21729053
Stand On Zanzibar is great, just finished it myself. Started Sheep Look Up before and it didn't grab me for some reason, but SOZ didn't let go

>> No.21734486

>>21733229
If your novel have catgirl harem doing mundane things like picnic then I might read it

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>>21732298
>Thrilling Stuff

>> No.21734713

>>21729220
>The Mabinogion
>The Sword of Rhiannon
>East of the Sun and West of the Moon

>> No.21734799

>Empire of The Vampire
>The Divide: The Exiled Fleet
Not sure about the next book, might go for a fantasy book, or maybe take a break from sf&f and go for another genre.

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ThE eLePhAnT

>> No.21734817 [DELETED] 

new thread WHEN?

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>>21728098
>last book you read
The Sellout
>current book you're reading
Titus Groan
>next book you plan to read
thinking of Night of Knives at the moment but might end up going with Monstrilio when that ships

>> No.21734884

>>21729391
Remember the series decently but I felt like Butcher's fedora tippy white knighting/chauvinism gets to it a bit for my liking, not as bad as Dresden but it's present

>> No.21734894

TWI 8.77 B
>Drath seems like a full on cultivation xianxia thing with kitsunes and shit
Not sure if I love it or hate it although by the pace at which stuff progress I feel like Drath still hasn't been featured in the newest chapters

>> No.21734895

>>21732558
Did you read his other book nevernight? I liked the first two,but the last one was trash. I going to give this one a chance though.

>> No.21734901 [DELETED] 

>>21734894
noone cares

>> No.21734903

>>21734894
twi is shit

>> No.21734967

>>21734713
>The Sword of Rhiannon
>Female villain falls in love with the main character
Women writers are based

>> No.21735020

Just finished Codex Alera. It was great and I'm sorry I slept on it for so long. I hope Butcher revisits the world one day with a prequel so we can see all the other peoples the displaced Romans wiped out.

>> No.21735041

>>21734894
You are nearing the end. Bucle up, it's going to take a toll on you

>> No.21735115

>>21731322
I liked it at first. But it turns into retarded shit later

>> No.21735198

Is there a definitive list of all currently running sci fi and fantasy magazines?

>> No.21735199

I want some trash. Feel-good garbage to the utmost. Fuck, make it for children.

>> No.21735204

Can this thread be used for opinion on excerpts from a Anon's own scifi creative work?

>> No.21735207

>>21735204
No, since there’s a separate general dedicated for that called the writing general. Go there. >>21728780

>> No.21735211

>>21735199
The Beginning after the End for utter retardation that comes from a reincarnated adult
Son of the Hero King if you dare
Practical guide to Evil if you can tolerate women

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>>21735199

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>>21734967
Villain falls for hero used to be a major trope, along with child transforms after eating something magical and villain get spanked
Old Victorian fantasy is really somethin

>> No.21735255

>>21735198
This is the closest for professional (paid) English language markets.
https://www.sfwa.org/2023/02/02/sfwa-market-report-february-2023/

If you want a list of all amateur and semi-pro, that's a different matter. There are probably lists out there but you'll have to do the search for that on your own. I already knew about the link I provided so I didn't have to do any searching.

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21735282

I'm almost done with The Fires of Heaven. Despairing a bit because I was under the impression this and Shadow Rising were the longest Wheel of Time books, but I found out the next book (Lord of Chaos) is even longer. Oh well, I am enjoying this series immensely so it doesn't matter.

>the carnival subplot

THAT'S what you all were bitching about? I thought it was great! Luca was fun, we get good Seanchan lore, and Tel'aran'rhiod is explored in new and scary/fascinating ways.

>> No.21735302

>>21735282
Read the completely unrelated Fires of Heaven trilogy.

>> No.21735344

>>21735282
Is that the one where Morgase gets blacked?

>> No.21735381
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looking for a book with a tsundere love interest

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>>21735381
See >>21735217 and >>21735282

>> No.21735414

>>21735381
can try Cradle. she's not tsundere but you'll probably like her.

>> No.21735441

>>21735414
Yerrin is cute and colloquial!

>> No.21735457

what are some good multi-author anthologies?

>> No.21735473

>>21735457
That's the same as asking "what's a good novel?"

>> No.21735482

>>21735473
nah it's not faggot, also I'm asking about short story anthologies

>> No.21735509

Is stormlight worth reading?
I read the first two books, but my interest has started to wane.

>> No.21735515

>>21735041
>>21734894
I read all the vol 8 ending chapters in one sitting, it was good. Stop prepping him for disappointment.

Also, Darth is not the only civilization still to be shown. The gazers, most of Terendria, Minotaurs, The undersea cities, Dwarf home etc...

>> No.21735521

>>21735509
3 and 4 are worse so if you're already not feeling it then you are better off reading other books.

>> No.21735526

>>21735521
Gotcha, thanks friend.

>> No.21735529

>>21735509
Absolutely not. It started mediocre and all went down hill from there.

>> No.21735535

>>21735482
Why not just read best of the year anthologies? If you want a themed one, then pick a theme.

>> No.21735547

>>21735535
fuck off

>> No.21735557

>>21735547
honestly as someone who reads a fair amount of anthologies i would reccomend what anon said, use the years-best ones as a starting point and then if theres a certain genre you like seek out a anthology based on said genre.

>> No.21735560

>>21735255
oh shit thank you anon

>> No.21735562

>>21735557
nice samefagging faggot

>> No.21735644
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21735644

Bastion's not getting a sequel, is it?

>> No.21735665

>>21735115
Thanks my friend, gonna skip it then.

>> No.21735675

>>21735644
A quick look on progfant says April 4.

>> No.21735684

>>21735675
progfart

>> No.21735688

>>21735684
I do not disagree.

>> No.21735716

>>21727748
shes hot

>> No.21735721

>>21735675
Are you talking about the reddit? I stopped going there after they turned it into 100% permanent pozzfest. Now I worry that if Bastion gets a sequel it will be just be a 1000 page long bugparty.

>> No.21735725

>>21735721
Yeah. I forget if he's a mod. There used to be a list but they removed it lol
>Is progression fantasy gay? The subs icon seems to portray that.
lmao even

>> No.21735727

>>21735457
Thieves World

>> No.21735787

Tul Duru Thunderhead.

>> No.21735792

>>21735344
Yup.

>> No.21735797

Black Dow.

>> No.21735805

Rudd Threetrees

>> No.21735810

Harding Grim

>> No.21735811

Dogman

>> No.21735816

Forley the Weakest

>> No.21735866

Bloody nine

>> No.21735898

The whole gang is here

>> No.21735982

What the fuck is the bot posting?

>> No.21736014

>>21735457
You can search them up using a search engine.

>> No.21736021
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21736021

Is this fantasy?
It's just retelling of myths but still.

>> No.21736026

>>21736021
>Is this fantasy?
Why are you asking us, I'm sure you can answer that yourself if you tried.

>> No.21736041

favorite sffg quote?
>The bird let out a slow chicken cackle. It sounded like a chicken, but in her heart she knew it wasn't. In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken. This looked like a chicken, like most of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken.
>This was evil manifest.

>> No.21736050

>>21736026
Yeah, but he’s that lazy and won’t do it.

>> No.21736073

>>21735282
Lord of Chaos is great, but Jordan's books are downhill from there

>> No.21736088

>>21736041
I don’t know, some quote from a fantasy book. Why do you care?

>> No.21736097

>>21729695
>>21729703
Good review, for a moment, I thought you might have sold out and praised the book unconditionally. Glad to know that you didn’t.

>> No.21736130

>>21735644
I remember this image, I read Bastion after seeing you post with that same pic quite a while ago. I hope we get a sequel soon.

>> No.21736137

>>21736130
Stop samefagging.

>> No.21736147

>>21736021
Then don’t read it, what’s the issue?

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>>21730058
For me, it was the firs tfew chapters of Sword of the Lictor.
>>21736041
Pic related.

>> No.21736154

>>21736151
I’m assuming you posted the wrong image.

>> No.21736178

>>21735509
> Is stormlight worth reading?
Read it and find out.

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>>21736151

>> No.21736199

>>21736193
Don’t be an idiot and believe anything you see here.

>> No.21736210

>>21736021
I mean, you can just not read it.

>> No.21736215

>>21736041
Don’t have one.

>> No.21736237

>>21735381
Try /a/.

>> No.21736257

>>21736237
No

>> No.21736265

I would suck dicks for a hardcover of David Gemmell's Legend

>> No.21736267

>>21736265
Just google.

>> No.21736269

>>21733229
And why are you telling us? Go to the writing general.

>> No.21736275

>>21736267
literially is nowhere to be found

>> No.21736281

The Once and Future King has Christian themes? I thought it was a secular version of Arthurian legend.

>> No.21736293

>>21736281
How dumb are you?

>> No.21736298

>>21736275
Anon, I found a few how tech illiterate are you.

>> No.21736306

>>21735020
Glad you like it

>> No.21736308

>tfw fell for the Sanderson meme

>> No.21736310

>>21736298
I don't believe you found even one 90's Century edition hardcover

>> No.21736311

>>21736293
I've seen secularized Arthurian legend before.

>> No.21736314

>>21736097
I know it's just something to say, but who would be benefitting from me selling out by praising it unconditionally? Big Simmons? Contrarianism Inc? Trolls R Us? Anon4u? If you mean dignity and self -respect, I gave that away for free by doing it for free. Ah, what's left for for me to sell?

>> No.21736334

>>21731127
>winner of diversity quotas awards
Wouldn't read it, even if it was actually wholly good

>> No.21736337

>>21734895
Not read any of his other books.
Think that series is the only other one written by him that isn't YA though. Might read it at some point but not yet.

>> No.21736461

>>21733229
The first step on the road to self improvement is having anonymous strangers deride your hard efforts on a Tibetan thangka painting forum
-Lao Tzu

>> No.21736480

Have you read any recent novels that you're sure are AI generated?

>> No.21736509

>>21736480
No and stop fucking asking.

>> No.21736720

New thread
>>21736695

>> No.21737075 [DELETED] 

>>21736014
fuck off

>> No.21737079

>>21736021
>reading a gay author