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[Anonymous No.21700303]

Why are so many Randians Christian when Rand herself was an Atheist weirdo?

[Anonymous No.21700307]

>>21700303
The only one I can think of Thiel.

[Anonymous No.21700318]

Congratulations, you've just realized 95% of "Christians" are LARPers who ignored all the parts of the Bible except the 4 or 5 verses that allow them to hate fags and to be greedy

[Anonymous No.21700323]

>>21700318
I always knew that, I just wanna know why they picked Ayn and not some other dude who wasn't hostile to them.

[Anonymous No.21700363]

>>21700303
Never heard a Christian who is into Ayn Rand. She was a subversive kikess and she is roasting in hell as we speak. I read The Fountainhead and, while few things right, it felt like I read something written by the demonically possessed.

[Anonymous No.21700376]

>>21700363
>it felt like I read something written by the demonically possessed
That's basically how most people read Rand

[Anonymous No.21700378]

Because Rand was the college rebellion phase for mainstream conservatives for the latter half of the 20th century.

[Anonymous No.21700379]

>>21700303
this is a very specific brand of american libertarian retard, you won't find any christians into this shit outside of the us

[Anonymous No.21700387]

>>21700376
Your post does not make sense. Are you saying there is a "right way" to read Rand?

[Anonymous No.21700397]

>>21700387
>imagined implied ad populum

Anything to start an argument i guess

[Anonymous No.21700407]

>>21700303
muaahahahahaha Ayn Rand thread
thnx anon, I was beginning to think there's something missing here

[Anonymous No.21700449]

>>21700397
You can answer the question instead of being schizo.

[Anonymous No.21700464]

>>21700449
That anon noticing that there is a common interpretation of Rand in no way implies that he also thinks that is the objectively correct interpretation of Rand.

[Anonymous No.21700480]

>>21700303
Name 5

[Anonymous No.21700493]

>>21700303
People keep saying "Rand is evil and will eat your fucking children whilst killing minorities!!!"
And then I read her and realize that she doesn't even advocate for summarily exterminating all leftists. Sometimes I genuinely wish leftists were right about something

[Anonymous No.21700500]

>>21700493
libertarian types don't have to argue active extermination, it is implied that the disadvantaged starve after the welfare state gets abolished, but they cover this up with "oh voluntary charity will fix all that" ben shapiro style in bad faith.

[Anonymous No.21700504]

>chud resorts to mad hominems to defend a hack
yawn

[Anonymous No.21700506]

>>21700500
>it is implied that the disadvantaged starve after the welfare state gets abolished
Schizo moment. Sometimes I wish leftists were right about something and the "disadvantaged" or whatever actually starve via some magic.

[Anonymous No.21700509]

>>21700506
so what do you think does happen in that case?

[Anonymous No.21700511]

>>21700504
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.21700514]

>>21700480
Jordan Peterson

[Anonymous No.21700517]

>>21700509
Leftists continue to exist unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.21700523]

>>21700517
name one country with leftists and no welfare state

[Anonymous No.21700526]

>>21700514
>uh... they're both le individualists!!
Leftism is brainrot

[Anonymous No.21700531]

>>21700523
Are you autistic?

[Anonymous No.21700536]

>>21700523
the USA
oh wait, that's backwards, Red states take more monies from Blue states ;^) maybe the Red states should pull themselves by their bootstraps??

[Anonymous No.21700537]

>>21700531
can't answer the question can you

[Anonymous No.21700543]

>>21700536
the usa is one of the largest and most advanced welfare states in the world actually,

[Anonymous No.21700545]

>>21700537
What kind of a dumb request even is that? Are you autistic?

[Anonymous No.21700555]

>>21700545
I like that Pepe

[Anonymous No.21700568]

libertarianism is a sillier pipedream than communism even desu, since a voluntarily small government is more unthinkable than the lack of a private enterprise.

[Anonymous No.21700577]

>>21700568
>libertarianism is a sillier pipedream than communism
>since a voluntarily small government is more unthinkable than the lack of a private enterprise
Communism implies a voluntarily small government (that is, if the communists actually want their society to exist putside their heads)

[Anonymous No.21700595]

>>21700577
except that the ideal commie govt is supposed to be well funded and functional, while in the lolbertarian fantasy, its supposed to be an underfunded, toothless and quasi-useless govt that exist only because they allow it to

[Anonymous No.21700597]

>>21700303
>when rand herself was a jew

you know the answer to your question.

[Anonymous No.21700611]

>>21700595
>except that the ideal commie govt is supposed to be well funded and functional
No. The 'ideal' commie society is moneyless and stateless, idiot. The thing is that marxists are just willfully ignorant. Communism is left libertarianism, remember. Right libertarianism is infinitely more possible by virtue of them simply admitting the eternal existense of the state.
Stop pretending marxists are smarter than they are

[Anonymous No.21700614]

>>21700363
Wasn't she a promoter of capitalism and cuckservatives who love cuckpitalism are the most christcucked people today?

[Anonymous No.21700622]

>>21700614
>both support capitalism therefore christian conservatives are Randians
Brainless.

[Anonymous No.21700672]

Whats with the giga-cringe leftard raids here lately? Life denying faggots will always be wrong. Reality keeps proving her right and them wrong all the time. They hate Rand because she showed so excellently how awful these people operate internally, how full of absolute shit leftists really are. Rand made them seethe for all eternity. Its actually really funny to see people still loose their marbles because of Rand over 70 years after Atlas. L'mao, but thats what happens when you operate on a false premise and reject simple realities like fucking children. But I get it, you have wasted years and years of your life being invested in shitty ideas and to acknowledge that would break you, so Rand and the like must be wrong, end of discussion.
This weakness is quite sad. I see it in aging everyday feminists all the time. They spent their liife ruining younger women with their diabolic retard shit and to acknowledge the reality of what their lies and false premises did to so many young women is simply to much for them to ever handle. So many lives wasted and forever ruined. I wish they lived long enough to truly see the longterm effects their psychotic bullshit really produces.

[Anonymous No.21701155]

>>21700303
I've never met someone who was a fan of Ayn Rand

[Anonymous No.21701230]

>COMMIES LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD
>Which is why I believe in a totally attainable utopia with no govt, police, etc but you see, everyone like totally respects each other because we all like, pinky swear the NAP and thus, we will all live in a paradise of no taxes, safety and freedom. Corporations, our benevolent Overlords, will keep us safe!

[Anonymous No.21701327]

>>21700464
That is what I was thinking. What a faggot.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !Ry9RIEstm6 No.21701337]

A MINORITY OF RANDIANS ARE CHRISTIAN; BETTER QUESTION: WHY ARE SOME CHRISTIANS RANDIAN?

TAKING MYSELF AS EXAMPLE: SOME CHRISTIANS ARE RANDIAN, OR HAVE A TASTE FOR AYN RAND'S LITERARY, AND/OR PHILOSOPHICAL, WORKS, BECAUSE SHE IS A REALIST IN THE ARISTOTELIAN SENSE, AND SHE EMPHASIZES & DEVELOPS THE ONTOLOGICAL DICHOTOMY BETWEEN THE PERSON, AND THE AVTOMATA, IN, BOTH, HER PHILOSOPHICAL TREATISES, AND IN HER NOVELS.

AYN RAND IS AN HONORARY CATHOLIC.

[Anonymous No.21701440]

>>21701337
aren't you the guy who failed to even work at mcdonalds and wrote a short story about it?

[Anonymous No.21701574]

>>21700363
>Never heard a Christian who is into Ayn Rand.
Have you ever hear of Congressman Dr. Ron Paul. Although he didn't name his son after her, or so they say, Ron Paul did read her books extensively, which led him to become a libertarian. He is also obviously religious.

[Anonymous No.21702604]

>Ayn Rand thread
https://a.uguu.se/DvZWKqkB.gif
The circuses have arrived, here's hoping the delivery man won't take his sweet fucking time bringing the bread.

[Anonymous No.21702611]

>>21701574
Pretty sure neither Rand or Ron Paul have done anything amoral nietzchean as a usual Ayn Rand character does. What are you talking about? More like they are LARPing as randians while being wholesome christians.

[Anonymous No.21702648]

>>21700303
Protestant Work Ethic. I'm a Christian who appreciates Rand. I'll put it this way - for one, she was absolutely correct about many things, time has 100% vindicated her to her critics (if they've paid any attention at all); for two, her ability to parody American politics and business politics was more accurate and insightful than anyone else I can think of; for three, about half of her views are fully correct.

What I wonder is, why do people like you act as though someone has to agree with a thinker on every point to consider them valuable? So we disagree on half of everything? So what? I could say that of almost anyone. I cannot think of a single philosopher with whom I agree on everything, and of authors, even less. That is what it means to think for yourself.

>>21700363
There are lots of Christians who agree with Rand on many things, and anti-Semitism is contrary to Scripture.

[Anonymous No.21703353]

>>21701337
Go back to /fa/ to talk about jewlry and clothes, and to /tv/ to jack off to underage girls and stay there you faggot pedo

[Anonymous No.21703412]

>>21701574
>>21702611
Dude wanted to "get rid of the FED". He is a political crank and senile idiot who just happened to be very strangely popular for some reason in the 2000s (even on here) even though he realistically never had a chance. No doubt that schizo does like Rand but his son seems slightly politically adept even if he's still a complete dork.

[Anonymous No.21703421]

>>21700500
its implied the disadvantaged get a job

[Anonymous No.21703430]

>>21700303
Because statism is satanic and part of satans plan to form the one world government

[Anonymous No.21703438]

>>21700318
>>21700323
meds. if an atheist says the sky is blue then it would be reasonable to believe him even if I disagree with his opinions on god. same goes for libertarian atheists. They can have valuable insights.

[Anonymous No.21703458]

>>21700568
If a group of sailors shipwreck on an island a voluntary society naturally springs up as they work together to try and survive. It isn't unbelievable. free trade happens all the time in real life.

[Anonymous No.21703469]

>>21701230
nobody said a libertarian society wouldn't have police or guns for self defense. just no government. if anything guns would be cheaper.

[Anonymous No.21704109]

>>21700318
>you've just realized 95% of "Christians"
Only online Christians are larpers.

[Anonymous No.21705056]

ive wondered this too

[Anonymous No.21705140]

>>21700363
/thread
I've literally never ever ever in my life ever heard of a Randian Christian. This thread is the definition of "inventing a guy to get mad at."

[Anonymous No.21705560]

>>21703458
>If a group of sailors shipwreck on an island a voluntary society naturally springs up as they work together to try and survive.
yeah that's communism

[Anonymous No.21705667]

>>21702648
>There are lots of Christians who agree with Rand on many things, and anti-Semitism is contrary to Scripture.
Maybe in Murica but in Europe nobody heard of this kikess. "Anti-Semitism" is a neologism that has nothing to do with Holy Scripture. The Bible is 109 % anti-Jewish and if you are in denial it shows what a huge faggot you are, given that use "anti-Semitism" unironically.

[Anonymous No.21705693]

>>21702648
>anti-Semitism is contrary to Scripture.
lol american "christians" are the perfect cattle

[Anonymous No.21705826]

>>21700318
SPWP

[Anonymous No.21705834]

>>21705693
It’s posts like these that make me wonder why US Soldiers didn’t go far enough in Dresden

[Anonymous No.21705845]

With all of these trains derailing I didn't think the collapse we would get was atlas shrugged.
I don't want to be lectured at for 50 pages at a time aaaaaaa.
Worst thing about that book is that the heroes are larger than life, while the villains are very real.

[Anonymous No.21706019]

>>21705834
>sometimes people aren‘t cattle enough

Seethe jew boy

[Anonymous No.21706031]

>>21705834
antisemitism has been a mainstay of all christian denominations until post ww2 american hegemony started pushing it out for political reasons. to a real christian jews are worse than ignorant pagans or muslims who at least recognise jesus as a prophet: to jews jesus is nothing more than a despicable fake messiah. they are very much anti-christ.

[Anonymous No.21706040]

>>21700303
she looks like her pussy would smell like ciggies

[Anonymous No.21707913]

>>21700318
Spbp.

[Anonymous No.21708012]

>>21703438
randian philosophy is diametrically opposed to christianity

[Anonymous No.21708014]

>>21703458
lol you literally just described communism

[Anonymous No.21708016]

>>21706040
Yeah she famous for smelling bad

[Anonymous No.21708018]

>>21700318
seething fag

[Anonymous No.21708032]

>>21705667
You don't read your Bible. The Bible is absolutely not anti-Jewish. Christians who think this are Christians who do not study Scripture.

>>21705693
To you, certainly, but I'm not re-opening this "are Christians cattle" debate again. Think what you will.

[Anonymous No.21708996]

>>21700500
take the meds

[Anonymous No.21709578]

>>21708032
the bible has jews denying christ and pressuring the romans into murdering him.

[Anonymous No.21709586]

>>21700303
How can you be a Christian and hate the poor?

[Anonymous No.21709905]

>>21708032
It's not anti-Jewish in terms of "race/ethnicity" since virtually all early Christians would have been ethnically Jewish. But it is anti-Jewish in terms of Judaism as a religion. Re-interpret scripture however you want but for almost the entirety of Christian history classical theologians all held anti-Jewish stances. I'm not going to reel of literally the hundreds of authoritative theologians that espoused these views, but just as 1 example are you honestly saying that Augustine didn't study scripture? Fuck off with this stupidity

[Anonymous No.21709924]

>>21706019
Hook, line and sinker

>>21706031
Supersessionism should have never died

[Anonymous No.21709951]

>>21700323
because most christians in america are brainwashed by their pastor to worship libertarian jesus. their beliefs ARE randian. that's what american (evangelical) churches are about. protecting business interests.

[Ahmad al-Rafiqqi (I'M NOT AN ARAB) No.21710178]

>>21700363
>>21700376
>it felt like I read something written by the demonically possessed.
>That's basically how most people read Rand
What does that even mean? There's a reason why Rand's critics always overfocus on Atlas Shrugged, which is much less subtle. The Fountainhead is legit a very wholesome book centered around the love for mankind, and how attempting to control others is wrong. Roark never hurts anybody nor he ever has bad intentions against anyone, even those that attack him.

[Anonymous No.21711928]

>>21700303
A lot of conservatives like her because she defends capitalism
>>21700318
Where does the Bible promote greed? I’m not a huge Bible defender but I don’t think there are any parts where it does that.

[Anonymous No.21711958]

>>21711928
>Where does the Bible promote greed?
nowhere, I was referring mostly to the Amerishart megachurches that perform mental gymnastics and fallacies on a few Bible verses in order to justify their Gospel of Greed (""Prosperity"")

[Anonymous No.21713117]

>>21700303
>Why are so many Randians Christian
This thread should have ended with only two words: "they're not." No further discussion was necessary.