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Anybody here read Animal Liberation by Peter Singer? What did you think about it?

>> No.21664337

>>21664132
Never read or heard of it. How about you tell me what YOU think, anon?

>> No.21664345

>>21664337
I was asking you guys before maybe ordering a copy.

>> No.21664536

>>21664345
what do you take us for? if i ever read a book i wouldn't admit it

>> No.21664563

>>21664132
Dollar store utilitarian retard. Someone should unironically turn him into a sandwich so he can join his animal friends in my stomach and i can squeeze his remains out of my intestines

>> No.21666149

>>21664132
it's decent propaganda overall. was probably much more hard hitting when it was published. i've been vegetarian for 4 years and just wanted to know some lore, but his arguments against speciesism are weak. taken to their logical ends, you can't help but become one of those fuckers repeating "what about the bugs you kill when your harvesting crops???" the section on animal testing sticks out to me, specifically the part where singer mentions the deprivation torture experiments that led to "psychological death" in the monkeys tested. seems it should be illegal to torture mammals into a catatonic state but put on a labcoat and it becomes okay, even if it produces no useful findings

>> No.21666159
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ANIMALISTS ARE FUNDED & PROMOTED BY ZIONGLOBALISM; ANIMALISM IS A PERVERSION OF VEGANISM.

>> No.21666272

basically irrefutable. but people will go to great lengths to justify the unnecessary suffering of animals. reason and compassion will not persuade them, and few things can make one more misanthropic

>> No.21666303

>>21664132
If you (correctly) think utilitarianism is stupid and arbitrary then you are not going to find it convincing and interesting, because the issue is more fundamental than what is discussed in the book.
If you are a midwit who thinks utilitarianism is not a baseless and insane moral theory you may like it.

>> No.21666374
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>>21664132
>Peter Albert David Singer AC (born 6 July 1946)[1] is an Australian moral philosopher and the Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University. He specialises in applied ethics, approaching the subject from a secular, utilitarian perspective.
I can already tell you that it'll be full of baseless assertions described as "common sense".
Spooky pseudo-atheism.

>> No.21666687

>>21666374
>Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University
This even sounds evil

>> No.21666695

>>21666687
>This even sounds evil
He thinks that murdering a 1 year old child is the moral equivalent of killing a slug.

>> No.21666794

>>21664132
I’ve not, but I have read some great books by Frans de Waal about animal cognition which might interest you. The best one is Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are. While he doesn’t really push an ethical argument it follows naturally from the implications of the results.
I don’t think “animal liberation” is possible even as a concept given the impact of humanity on the global habitat. There’s a lot of room for improvement when it comes to ethical treatment of animals though. And I think most people realize and want that.

>> No.21667259

>>21666149
>>21664563
>>21666159
>>21666272
>>21666303
>>21666374
>>21666794
Thanks for answering my question. Just wanted to know if the book was spouting bullshit. I will give that Frans de Waal a read in future.

>> No.21667266

I've never read it but I think it's really funny that Singer himself isn't even vegetarian, let alone vegan.

>> No.21667270

>>21667266
shut up man im starving

>> No.21667288

>>21666149
Vegetarians are the worst, they contribute to the horrors of animal agriculture by consuming eggs and dairy (which also leads to the slaughter of billions of male chicks and calfs) while enjoying a lame, moderate symbol of pretending to care.

It's better to eat meat and no dairy than the other way around.

>> No.21667309

>>21667288
I think half measure is still doing some good. You can't really escape not having some blood on your hands from the food you eat. Countless critters are killed for crops like snakes and moles.

>> No.21667345

>>21667309
Sure, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good and all but vegetarianism doesn't even do any good. Have you ever seen battery cages? If you want to limit the amount of suffering you cause it makes way more sense to focus on the quality of life of the animals you purchase the products of rather than arbitrarily cutting out some animal products and happily relying on torture for the other.

Veganism isn't a very good answer in the big picture either since modern plant agriculture is also pretty dystopian as you said. The best move you can do to consoom ethically is source your food from trustworthy wholesome sources.

>> No.21667354

>>21664132
I don't know what this book is but it made me think of Animal Liberation Front which in turn reminded me of Earth Liberation Front.
Where my ELF bros at?