/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21657005]

On the road to Vegas Edition

Previous Thread:>>21647897

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
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>Goodreads
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[Anonymous No.21657017]

Bakker- KING

[Anonymous No.21657074]

Those recc charts are unhelpful garbage
I'm new to the genre and I lack attention span like every zoomer.
Just fucking give me a fantasy series with brisk pacing and charming characters and a lot of hype af moment.

[Anonymous No.21657090]

The /sffg/ roiled. The very extremity of their passion, wailing as old women one moment, whooping as young boys the next, oppressed them, and for all their frantic gratitude the Anons found themselves turning, as all manly souls turn, to anger and contempt. Anonymous posting is never so cheap as when executed for the lulz; and they were, in the end, cruel, spiteful, bitter shitposters.
Sinners.
So they began baying for the blood of their foe. Anon could feel it as much as they, the need to affix their sin to disposable webnovels.
“Brothers!” he called, hoping to gather them once again within the harness of his voice. “Broth—!”
>"I FEARED WHAT I MIGHT FIND..."
Their Holy Bakker-Shill had returned from his thirty day ban.

[Anonymous No.21657095]

>>21657074
I feel like the first 2 books of Codex Alera aren't as good as they could be or I'd recommend it.
The 1st, 4th, and 9th Cradle books are also kinda eh.

[Anonymous No.21657098]

>>21657074
Problem is fantasy is basically synonymous with door-stopping volumes spun into series. It's hard as fuck to find short or standalone stories.

[Anonymous No.21657103]

>>21657095
In fact I struggle to even remember what Skysworn was about. They join the cops and meet Mercy. That's literally all I can remember.

[Anonymous No.21657160]

>>21657098
pulp

[Anonymous No.21657183]

>1000 IQ megamind spends 20 years mastering every field of science and magic known to humanity
Why didn't Kellhus produce any tanks, assault rifles, and drones for his Ordeal?

[Anonymous No.21657223]

Sorry if this photo lies on its side.

[Anonymous No.21657232]

look whos back
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV5NGHDY

[Anonymous No.21657241]

>>21657183
Why the fuck would he decentralise his control like that? The lower the tech, the more important and influential the individual is.

A dunyain can catch a chorae arrow, but I very much doubt they could react to a chorae bullet or whatever.

[Anonymous No.21657246]

>>21657232
>DAZ gobbo cover art
instant pass despite his history. even AI generated covers are better

[Anonymous No.21657252]

>>21657246
the funny thing is there are /weg/s that use DAZ shit but look pretty good despite that.
that being said whats better? a plain landscape like in the daniel black books or these 3d models?
also
>/lit/ literally judging a book by its cover, again

[Anonymous No.21657521]

>>21657252
The book is going to spend most of its existence on my shelf. The aesthetics of the cover are more important than its contents.

[Anonymous No.21657577]

>>21655992
>I feel like anons here just judge books based on the writer's politics.
I dunno. I loved Jack Vance even before finding out he was a rabid antisemite. There's something about an author's worldview that comes through in their writing style even if there's no overt insertion of their politics.

[Anonymous No.21657581]

>>21657103
They meet Mercy, and then Mercy's mom kaiju battles a Dreadgod. Also Lindon has his duel where he loses his arm, but that happens near the start so you kind of forget it happens. Absolutely the lowest point of the series, though.

[Anonymous No.21657586]

>>21657074
Despite what that other anon said, Cradle's still pretty good for that. Only a couple of books really feel all that stagnant, and even then it's way faster than some other series where they'll spend 300 pages in a fucking single room.

[Anonymous No.21657673]

>>21657074
>I'm new to the genre and I lack attention span like every zoomer.
audiobooks while doing something else

[Anonymous No.21657687]

>>21657074
here's an actual helpful reply: read the Belgariad

[Anonymous No.21657709]

>>21657577
It's a retarded example because Wolfe was an agnostic pro-Bush Fox News Republican and GURM is a MSNBC neolib. Same shit. Two old fat white guys get weighed precisely by the character of their (lack of) writing.
>inb4 jews aren't white
Everyone with any sense was done with him way before that came out.

[Anonymous No.21657730]

Picked up The War Of The Flowers and The Judging Eye yesterday. What am I in for?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.21657733]

>>21657005
Travel by Bullet, The Dispatcher #3 - John Scalzi (2023)

Tony Valdez once again finds himself embroiled in a case that will test his friendships and loyalties to death and beyond. A billionaire cryptocurrency exchange owner has died and now everyone is scrambling to best position themselves before a complete collapse of several cryptocurrencies. Those involved will do whatever it takes to remain profitable. The wealthier they are, the more badly they behave. In a world where people don't die when they're killed, murder comes easy, and torture is routine. If you're looking for a relatively short and simple noir-like story with a neat gimmick that takes place in Chicagoland of Current Year, then you could do worse than this.

This book brings in contemporary events and their effects, such as the pandemic, and pop culture. I don't know if it's me, but when I see brands used like how they are here I can't help but wonder if they were intended to be casual mentions or native advertising. If it's the latter, it doesn't detract from my experience other than being distracting in that it makes me pause to consider advertising in books in general. I don't mind pop culture if it's contextually appropriate, which it is here.

I continue to think that the premise of the series, that 99.9% of the time people respawn when they're killed could be used in so many more ways than it is. I keep hoping that the next installment will do something more with it, and I keep being disappointed. As it is, this is a mediocre series with a gimmick that doesn't fulfill its potential in almost any way. It's annoying because Scalzi has better explored speculative ideas in his other near future works. For those who aren't hung up on this idea like I am, it's probably a better read.

I've tried both listening to and reading a few audiobook originals now. My current belief is that they are more suited to be listened to rather than read because of how they were written. It's somewhat like how podcast scripts are meant to be listened to rather than read, as reading them would almost surely be a lesser experience. It can be done, but it doesn't seem to be what was intended. The audiobook is already out, so you're interested in this, I recommend getting that rather than waiting for a physical copy, but maybe you want both for whatever reason. That's something people do apparently.

Rating: 2.5/5

I received this advance reading/review copy (ARC) from Subterranean Press through NetGalley. I appreciate being allowed to read it and have provided my thoughts on the book as anyone ought to do for having received early access for free.

[Anonymous No.21657783]

>>21657090
>>21657017
On Sunday it will be three years since Bakker last poasted. He's dead.

[Anonymous No.21657825]

Azarinth Healer #1 fucking sucks. Ilea is a terrible character, the system is fucking arbitrary and meaningless. Rhaegar was not smart enough to write a cultivation series, so he forced a litrpg up its ass. I can't believe this genre awards so much failure. 2/10

[Anonymous No.21657827]

I don't understand the readers & writers who think ultra edgy grimderp, miseryporn, and 'splatterpunk' fantasy is the end all be all of fantasy literature. I enjoy dark and horror fantasy like Sword & Sorcery and on occasion I'll get the urge to read that super edgy stuff, but to read or write that crap almost exclusively? There's definitely gotta be something wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.21657836]

>>21657241
Literally just get them to make muskets and bombs and cannons
A cannon could kill hundreds of sranc in one shot

[Anonymous No.21657852]

>>21657709
>wolfe
>agnostic
as agnostic as G.K. Chesterton

[Anonymous No.21657864]

Which writer has produced the most accurate representation of AI?

[Anonymous No.21657869]

On all levels except physical, I am No-God. Unnatural, utterly destructive, with a wicked sense of stopping the wombs from quickening. The G-ds are blind to my existence while the M*n shit their pants at the mere presence of myself on their planet

[Anonymous No.21657924]

>>21657864
That's too vague to give any meaningful answer. Based on your image though I assume you mean "which story has the best anthropomorphic robots". If you literally mean what you wrote, then it'd be a quite boring and mundane novel.

[Anonymous No.21657930]

>>21657924
thats not what I was trying to infer.

[Anonymous No.21657940]

Any recommendation for recent comfy pulpy space opera. I pirated based on the blurb.

[Anonymous No.21657946]

>>21657930
Explicate, elaborate, and define what you mean by "AI" then.

[Anonymous No.21657956]

>>21657733
What a shit "review"

[Anonymous No.21658002]

>>21657940
Does pulpy in this case means amateurish self-published works that are entirely filled with generic tropes and are so derivative of the author's preferred media that they are fanfiction in everything but name?

[Anonymous No.21658058]

>>21658002
>amateurish self-published
not necessarily
> that are entirely filled with generic tropes
originality permitted
>so derivative of the author's preferred media that they are fanfiction in everything but name
mandatory. Preferred fiction would ideally be Dumarest of Terra.

[Anonymous No.21658083]

>>21657864
Arrive at Easterwine by R A Lafferty

[Anonymous No.21658296]

It's odd, reading modern fantasy. It gets into a groove and then suddenly men are mentioning their husbands, there are women soldiers in every crevice, and the male protagonist mentions he used to be a whore.

[Anonymous No.21658315]

>>21658296
jesus, sounds like horror not fantasy.

[Anonymous No.21658323]

>>21658002
Imagine getting this triggered over pulp.

[Anonymous No.21658342]

>>21658296
>modern literature reflects modern mentality
Crazy

[Anonymous No.21658355]

>>21658315
It's Django Wrexler's Ashen of the Sun (Burningblade & Silvereye #1). It's not half bad, really. It's got death and sex but not stupid amounts of either, which is probably not that rare but sure feels like it. I'm not a big fan of the alternating POV chapters, nor of the whole 'original D&D campaign for three players' vibe, but hey, you take what you can get in this market.

[Anonymous No.21658368]

>>21658296
>the male protagonist mentions he used to be a whore.
hot, too bad there are women

[Anonymous No.21658382]

>>21658355
Why not read something older?

[Anonymous No.21658402]

>>21658382
I'm not in a mood to reread.

[Anonymous No.21658424]

>>21658402
You've read every fantasy? Woah
Have you read The Mask of the Sorcerer? (1995) one of my favorite standalone
What about The Broken Sword? A classic.

[Anonymous No.21658431]

>>21658296
just don't do it
plenty of old things to read

[Anonymous No.21658446]

>>21657852
https://archive.org/details/genewolfe
The dude expressly calls himself agnostic. He was Jesuit educated and knew a lot about Catholicism, but he wasn't practicing.

[Anonymous No.21658468]

Any book with a setting that despict dinosaurs as supernatural beings a kin to dragons, or even as rival to dragons?

[Anonymous No.21658473]

>>21658355
this happens to me also with recently written books, although i haven't read many of them, even if overall i thinkt hey are pretty good, it has some fucking weird and out of place things that bug me so much. i wonder if woudn't even notice if i wasn't so contaminated by modern media and 4chan discussions about these things but i bet i still would, i would just be more confused than annoyed

lately the date that something was written is a factor in me choosing what to read next

[Anonymous No.21658520]

>>21658382
>>21658424
just let the man read what he wants to read no matter the decade it's from
christ

[Anonymous No.21658526]

Kino hard sci-fi

[Anonymous No.21658528]

>>21658002
>amateurish self-published
I do not understand this hatred NPCs have towards self-published works.

[Anonymous No.21658552]

Roleplaying games and their consequences have been a disaster for the fantasy genre.

[Anonymous No.21658555]

>>21658424
>You've read every fantasy? Woah
Yes.

[Anonymous No.21658599]

>>21658526
>piers anthony
How hard are we talking here? Were futa involved?

[Anonymous No.21658606]

>>21657836
A cannon could, but they'd also require logistics for a cross-continental trip. You couldn't bring enough cannonballs to kill millions of sranc. In a similar fashion, how the fuck would Kellhus build the industry to arm hundreds of thousands of men with muskets?

Kellhus doesn't give a fuck about making the world a better place, or making the Ordeal a better fighting force. They're meat shields for the sorcerers, that is literally it. Each sorcerer is far more dangerous and durable and convenient than any cannon. Any group of cannons. Kellhus spent 20 years assembling the baggage train and resources for a bum rush to Golgotterath, and even then they ran out of resources very quickly.

It took him 20 years to do what he did. Totally transforming the makeup of the Three Seas would have taken even longer. All for a slight buff to their meat shields who wouldn't be doing the majority of the Sranc clearing anyways.

[Anonymous No.21658672]

>>21658599
There's a scene where the characters attempt to travel at 10g acceleration for months which their bodies naturally cannot endure, so their solution is to use dubious alien technology to turn into protoplasmic goo and recombine afterwards. Before that happens the hot girl of the crew asks the protagonist to touch every part of her naked body so he can "remember her" and verify that she's still herself after the journey. Piers spends several pages describing every bump on her body and the moisture levels of her pussy. Then they melt the bitch in a bathtub. Great stuff.

[Anonymous No.21658687]

>>21657864
Lem, "Golem XIV"

[Anonymous No.21658693]

>>21657869
Wish this shit had some real fanart.

[Anonymous No.21658709]

>>21658552

[Anonymous No.21658744]

>>21658693
AI art will fix it in a few years. I'm assuming it'll also fall to the robots to write the No-God since the canadian bastard checked out

[Anonymous No.21658745]

>>21658606
>You couldn't bring enough cannonballs to kill millions of sranc
It's easy to just skip the cannonballs and use stones as primitive grapeshot
a single primitive hand grenade made from a wooden shell, some nails, stones and some gunpowder costs nothing, is easy to train people to use and if thrown into a crowd of sranc could kill thirty easily
or just create primitive airships and fly all the way to golgotterath kek

[Anonymous No.21658795]

What's some good body horror stuff?
Can be anything from cronenberg inspired to weird fantastical goopy monsters like Brian Yuzna movies.

[Anonymous No.21658810]

>>21658606
>>21658745
Maybe I'm overthinking Bakker's plotholes but Kellhus very explicitly doesnt care about Ordealsmen, he never even fights the sranc horde except the one time it threatened to overwhelm and destroy the march. Perhaps it was part of his pact with Ajokli to create a glorious bloodbath, after all if the march leisurely rolled in to the gates of Golgotterath it wouldnt be much of a cause for lamentations to the horned God. Don't tell me he couldnt just teleport that nuke away in an instant

[Anonymous No.21658820]

>>21657223
Nice to see Clark Ashton Smith and William Hope Hodgson being added to the list.

[Anonymous No.21658840]

>>21658820
A dubious honor. The D&D novelizations have been added to the list too.

[Anonymous No.21658889]

>>21658744
First things first, I need proper covers for the last three books.

[Anonymous No.21658951]

>>21658795
blood music

[Anonymous No.21659045]

>>21658795
Tomorrow's People by J. Manfred Weichsel
Good luck finding it though; it was too spicy for Jewmazon. I'm probably only a handful of people who digitally bought it before it was nuked kek.

[Anonymous No.21659058]

>>21657017
He's a closeted queer man and it really impacted his work

[Anonymous No.21659118]

>>21659058
a straight man never could've come up with the brilliance of the No-God

[Anonymous No.21659140]

>>21659058
He was definitely touched by someone, but his power level is pretty low. Nowhere near Jim Butcher.

[Anonymous No.21659224]

>>21657827
I read a book that was basically pure misery porn and it was just boring as fuck, at some point the story just becomes "look at the awful thing that's happening to this character AGAIN! Doesn't that terrify you?" and no, no it doesn't, it stopped being shocking after the first three times and now just feels like you're just writing this shit with one hand.
Book was The Winter Road if you're curious.

[Anonymous No.21659228]

>>21659140
>>21659118
>>21659058
careful with so much projecting

[Anonymous No.21659233]

I just got Neverwhere from an airport book store without know absolutely anything about the book, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.21659251]

what's a sci-fi series that's in depth like warhammer 40k for people who hate warhammer 40k? while I like 2000AD it isn't quite the same.

[Anonymous No.21659259]

>>21659224
Tragedy is only interesting if a better solution COULD have happened, but didn't because character flaws or whatever. If it's just the state of the setting that everybody involved sucks and there's no happiness for any of them because they're all awful people going on a miserable downhill slide, why the fuck should I care?

[Anonymous No.21659268]

>>21659251
Xeelee

[Anonymous No.21659335]

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.21659362]

>>21659233
>Kneel Gayman
What do you think?

[Anonymous No.21659404]

>>21659335
Are the neuromamcer sequels any good?

[Anonymous No.21659424]

>>21659404
Each one is better written than the last.

[Anonymous No.21659438]

>>21659404
I liked his second trilogy better. Especially Idoru, it's really fun and easy to read, even more so when compared to Neuromancer

[Anonymous No.21659645]

>>21659335
Add Viriconium to your list.

[Anonymous No.21659668]

>>21659645
>foreword by Neil Gaybo
Thats enough for me to never touch this shit with a 10ft pole

[Anonymous No.21659669]

>>21657730
>The War Of The Flowers
I liked the old rock an roll cool of the main character, intro part was very kino to me

[Anonymous No.21659738]

>>21657864
Her is the most accurate and most hopeful imo

[Anonymous No.21659764]

One of you cunts in the previous thread suggested this series, I'm now 6 chapters in and a gnome woman has already offered the main character sex in exchange for doing her bidding, said she will falsely accuse him of rape in an angry outburst when he turns her down, and now the main character has just got his revenge by hiring a thug to kidnap her, strip her naked and spank her ass in the market sqaure for everyone to see, what the actual fuck im never listening to any of you retards again, fuck you

[Anonymous No.21659797]

>>21659668
kinda based ngl

[Anonymous No.21659817]

>>21659764
What thinly disguised fetish material you read.

[Anonymous No.21659885]

>>21658745
And how are they going to carry enough shots to fuel however many cannons they bring? Across over 1000 miles when they ran out of literal provisions like halfway there.

Also ignoring that the revolution to industry would have taken more time than the 20 years Kellhus spent taking over the three seas.

And all this for the Ordealmen (who's only propose is to keep chorae from the many hundreds of sorcerers present) to be somewhat more effective at killing Sranc before they run out of bullets and ammo.

Muskets=useless, more Sranc than bullets they could bring
Cannons=useless, discount sorcerers that require more maintenance and can't be fielded in appreciable numbers

[Anonymous No.21660094]

>>21657709
>Fox News Republican
>MSNBC neolib.
Wtf does that even mean? American politics are a joke lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.21660109]

>>21658526
Is that the one with the blonde racist lady who turned out to be into BBC?

[Anonymous No.21660196]

>>21659362
Didn't know he was a faggot, oh well, at least it's a small book

[Anonymous No.21660507]

>>21660094
They're very similar fake TV news channels boomers watch to pretend shit is still normal until their kids throw them in a nursing home run by Haitians.

[Anonymous No.21660619]

Surely one of you faggots can provide me with a Twilight Zone-like short story collection recommendation.

[Anonymous No.21660632]

I wonder if they will be all by women for women. All of their current books seem to be. I'd be interested to see what their idea of SFF Romance for men by men would be, though not necessarily something that I'd want to read.

https://www.tor.com/2023/02/14/tor-publishing-group-announces-new-romance-imprint/

[Anonymous No.21660649]

>>21658296
>modern fantasy
Forget about Jasnah's ridiculous Reddit-liberal worldview (she should have stayed dead); the last sequel is hopeless. It was just too analogous to racial reconciliation. There is literally a black lady and a white lady, and the white lady rules the city where the black people used to be slaves. And eventually they sing songs together, and that's where magic comes from. I felt like I was being had. What's the point of it if I just keep getting bludgeoned over the head with the most obvious, cliché analogy? It seemed different in the beginning; characters seemed vulnerable and there was a gravitas to the monsters which had sent humanity to the stone ages like five times already. That was a new way to think about history and technological progress, which was novel and engaging. But the sequels turned to ass. They just float around the sky playing happy fun games. Guess what, I found another series. It's fucking gruesome. They had the desert seer asshole in that one, too. Fuck this series.

[Anonymous No.21660694]

Want to read self-published? Here you go.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/xumyz0/rfantasys_top_selfpublished_novels_2022_poll/

[Anonymous No.21660696]

>>21660694
>self-published
I tried it once. Never again.

[Anonymous No.21660719]

>>21660694
>Cradlewank
sasuga

[Anonymous No.21660812]

>>21660694
Do we have our own shitty self published works?

[Anonymous No.21660816]

>>21660696
Based NPC take.

[Anonymous No.21660853]

>>21657090
based

[Anonymous No.21660865]

>>21659233
Hasn't aged well. It was written about the exact moment when stronk womyn characters hand holding useless emasculated men through the plot became the thing to do. So be prepared for a very forward, unpolished execution of that. The setting and supporting cast are pretty great though.

[Anonymous No.21660876]

>>21657183
This is the "why didn't they fly the eagles to mordor" of TAE.

[Anonymous No.21661021]

do you think the swayali witches got super horny and rapey once they started eating the meat haha

[Anonymous No.21661039]

I sent a short story to the Black Library open submission. The theme was Space Marine successor chapters, and even though in don’t know a lot about them, I think my story is pretty good.

What are my chances? How long should I wait until I give up hope of getting accepted? Six months?

[Anonymous No.21661113]

Question: is it possible to write an About the Author and not come off as a total twat?

[Anonymous No.21661167]

>>21658889
i think the second book got an OK cover that fits well with the theme.

[Anonymous No.21661171]

>>21659233
Its trash and has the expected woke agenda.

[Anonymous No.21661177]

>goes straight from describing a heartbreaking character separation to describing a fucking wooden boat in overly autistic detail
why
also ;_;

[Anonymous No.21661179]

>>21660694
>self-published
always a complete coin toss when it comes to quality. amusingly enough, ability to self-publish means shitty authors never give up.

[Anonymous No.21661187]

>>21658820
Man, world sure lost one of potential greats with William Hope Hodgson dying so young. Shit sucks.

[Anonymous No.21661206]

>>21658446
>He was Jesuit educated
No he wasn't, he converted to Catholicism during his marriage to Rosemary.
As for him not being Catholic, it would contradict what Wolfe said here
"If it’s not too personal a question, do you consider yourself a professing Catholic?

Certainly I am. I go to mass; I receive Communion; I pray."

https://www.technologyreview.com/2014/07/25/12916/a-qa-with-gene-wolfe/

And it's incredibly obvious from almost all of his works.
>>21657577
>I loved Jack Vance even before finding out he was a rabid antisemite.
Source? Because I love him even more now. I knew he was based and I sesed some of his dislike for cosmopolitan (Jews) in Araminta station.

[Anonymous No.21661215]

>>21661187
>Why yes, I Intentionally wrote my novel in archaic prose, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.21661233]

>>21657017
If he is king then why can't he draw fans outside of /sffg/ like Wolfe or Peake

[Anonymous No.21661308]

>>21661187
>>21661215
CHAD

[Anonymous No.21661309]

>>21657017
If he's king why did he stop writing then

[Anonymous No.21661390]

>>21661309
>writes 7 perfect novels
>refuses to elaborate or conclude the story
>leaves

[Anonymous No.21661525]

>>21657005
FUCK he is good.

[Anonymous No.21661533]

>>21661525
I like his writing because settings are my thing, but by all accounts Mieville is absolutely intolerable as a person. Also, I've never seen anyone burn their bridges so fast.

[Anonymous No.21661543]

>>21661533
Who cares? World building and prose are S-tier.

[Anonymous No.21661584]

Recommend me you most misogynistic fantasy novels

[Anonymous No.21661592]

>>21661543
He's all smoke and no fire. All that crazy world building never amounts to anything and the plots usually suck balls

[Anonymous No.21661608]

>>21661584
I dont recall any "overt sexism" in DE. There is a scene where a bunch of women ridicule Cugel's small penis, is this sexism?

[Anonymous No.21661611]

>>21661592
Wrong

[Anonymous No.21661618]

>>21661584
Neverness by David Zindell.

[Anonymous No.21661636]

>>21661584
Orphans of Chaos by John C. Wright and everything Gene Wolf wrote.

[Anonymous No.21661681]

https://twitter.com/JamieMoranUK/status/1625686633633746944

[Anonymous No.21661712]

>>21661608
I think it refers to the first story in Rhialto the Marvellous, where the Sorceress journeys through time and turns all the wizards into women and they all start acting like retards

[Anonymous No.21661726]

>>21661712
Realistic and absolutely hilarious.

[Anonymous No.21661739]

>protagonist stays low-key thoughout the series
Any recs? Only LOTM kinda fits if you ignore gerhman

[Anonymous No.21661748]

>>21661584
Faghrd and Gray Mouser
Gor, obviously (not worth reading though)

>>21661608
Women are raped for humorous effect several times. It happens even more in Simbilis.

[Anonymous No.21661757]

>>21661206
>Source?
Read the last couple chapters of Emphyrio. The bad guys turn out to be a race of giant-nosed bugs. They crucified the planet's christ figure thousands of years earlier and have been secretly robbing everyone since then

[Anonymous No.21661823]

>>21661739
Waylander maybe

[Anonymous No.21661841]

>>21661757
It could have been a coincidence or at least something unconscious. After all, everyone hates Jews at least unconsciously.

[Anonymous No.21661907]

Victorian moralists and modern feminists alike seethe at this

[Anonymous No.21661920]

>>21659233
cozy london fairy tale

[Anonymous No.21661981]

>b-ok gone
When the hell did this happen?

[Anonymous No.21662007]

It's okay.

Genuinely impressive for a first novel and I think Shea has a pretty good grasp on what makes most of Dying Earth tick. However the undercurrent of humour pervasive throughout much of Vance's writing (including Cugel's stories) is notably absent. This isn't to say its humourless. There's no shortage of situations that sound funny. The demons cultivating a tree that crushes people with the iron anvils it bears as fruit is a hilarious concept. But it's presented without a hint of mirth. It's like the marginalia of a joke

>>21661981
Couple of months ago? Use libgen

[Anonymous No.21662023]

What kind of person actually reads a Sanderson book and gives it 5 stars on GayReads?

[Anonymous No.21662061]

>>21661981
>When the hell did this happen?
Few months ago. People kept talking about it on tiktok apparently so the govt caught wind and now it's fucked. Still works on TOR, though, and it's easy to google the onion link.

[Anonymous No.21662091]

>>21662023
The majority of /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.21662109]

>>21662023
its pretty simple bro
i like the book? 5 stars
i didnt like the book? never finish or 1 star
only retards waste time thinking about review or how to rate something they liked

[Anonymous No.21662111]

>>21662109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwuDg-zWH98

[Anonymous No.21662114]

>>21662007
>However the undercurrent of humour pervasive throughout much of Vance's writing (including Cugel's stories) is notably absent.

Cugel constantly having to navigate around Mumber's cluelessness. The gambling hall. The swamp trial. The "proud cuck" wizard. Cugel taking a time-out from escaping hell to rape a big titty girl. Shea captured Vance's sense of humor perfectly.

[Anonymous No.21662131]

>>21662114
I can only reiterate and say I found them funny in concept, not in execution.

[Anonymous No.21662132]

>>21662111
thumbs bros we keep winning

[Anonymous No.21662220]

The First Law trilogy is surprisingly wholesome. Also doesn't have a single boring PoV.

[Anonymous No.21662248]

>>21662220
It's kinda cringe though

[Anonymous No.21662405]

>>21662248
Why?

[Anonymous No.21662642]

>>21661636
Gene Wolfe’s stuff isn’t misogynistic.

[Anonymous No.21662667]

>>21661215
Its supposed to be a fictional memoir of a 17th century aristocrat transported millions of years into the future, so it makes sense

[Anonymous No.21662711]

>>21662667
If that was his intention, he failed. It sounds nothing like a 17th century person. Hogdson's prose blew. Why is that so hard for some people to accept?

[Anonymous No.21662714]

>>21662642
Depends who you ask. People who unironically use the word misogyny consider him a misogynist. According to contemporary mores he is one. The fact that he had a good family life, respected women around him etc. means nothing because his stories show his Catholic outlook (which is misogynistic according to the modern moral standards).

[Anonymous No.21662724]

>>21662711
I started reading him last night. Around 15 pages in. It definitely does not make for good prose. It's almost funny considering how much he's trying to make it flow and to make it pretty, but there's no grace or beauty to it this far. Maybe something will change later on.

[Anonymous No.21662736]

>>21660619
Bump.

[Anonymous No.21662753]

>>21660619
Explain what you mean by "twilight-zone like".

[Anonymous No.21662773]

I just read Vance's Showboat World, and while I enjoyed it a lot I don't understand what he was basically going for. Seemed to have a slingshot everything wrapped up quick ending. Was there any specific themes I was missing?

[Anonymous No.21662840]

>>21660619
The Twilight Zone is like In a Glass Darkly and HP Lovecraft, so that would be the obvious starting point.

[Anonymous No.21662948]

>>21661981
Go to Anna's Archive dumbass

[Anonymous No.21662963]

>>21662714
Neurotic retards don't count as people. Nothing about Gene Wolf is misogynistic, as much as I might wish it were otherwise.

[Anonymous No.21663136]

>>21662963
It's just that meaning of the word has changed. As the Overton window moves to the left, so do definitions of words as commonly used.

[Anonymous No.21663264]

>>21663136
No, I mean a dozen overly fragile university students calling it problematic on goodreads isn't a shift or evidence of anything. Gene wolf never writes anything sexist.

Its not a shift in the overton window its just there being more insular retarded communities that can voice their opinions.

[Anonymous No.21663322]

>>21663264
There's almost no point in trying to talk sense into people who see conspiracies against them everywhere. But I appreciate that at least one person here is still able to think critically.

[Anonymous No.21663337]

[Anonymous No.21663693]

>>21661179
>always a complete coin toss when it comes to quality.
Those are better odds than tradpub books kek

[Anonymous No.21663757]

Asked a couple threads ago, asking again: Any good kaiju books?

[Anonymous No.21663780]

How should one approach Foundation for the first time? Is there an omnibus edition?

[Anonymous No.21663783]

>>21663780
There’s an answer online if you actually care.

[Anonymous No.21663784]

>>21663757
Have you tried searching for those books? You know, like a regular person?

[Anonymous No.21663797]

>>21663784
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.21663803]

>>21663797
Then keep searching on your own.

[Anonymous No.21663832]

>>21663784
>like a regular person?
Actually, regular people ask other regular people if they've heard of what they're looking for, usually also hoping to get a good recommendation out of it. They don't tell each other to google it and piss and shit and pee their pants any time someone tries to start a discussion on the topic. Especially not in a place dedicated to discussing that topic. That would be ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.21663841]

>>21663784
That would be using their brain for once.

[Anonymous No.21663847]

>>21663832
>Actually, regular people ask other regular people if they've heard of what they're looking for, usually also hoping to get a good recommendation out of it.
That's what reddit and goodreads is for.

[Anonymous No.21663877]

>>21663803
>>21663832
>>21663841
>>21663847
So do any of you guys know how one should approach Foundation for the first time?

[Anonymous No.21663884]

>>21663877
Yeah, there’s an answer online, you can find it using a search engine.

[Anonymous No.21663885]

>>21663877
Try using warosu and look at previous threads.

[Anonymous No.21663889]

>>21663877
Publication order and only read after the original trilogy if you're a masochist.

[Anonymous No.21663896]

>>21663884
You can just say that you don't know, anon.

[Anonymous No.21663907]

>>21663896
No, I know, and the reason why I know is because I looked it up. Doesn’t even take a minute. So I don’t know why you just don’t do that.

[Anonymous No.21663921]

>>21657940
Link?

[Anonymous No.21664051]

>>21657577
BASED
Dying earth was such a great book

[Anonymous No.21664186]

>>21662714
pride and prejudice is misogynistic according to modern moral “standards”, they don’t really mean much

[Anonymous No.21664332]

I just bought Elric of Melnibone and Other Stories, it’s full of weird essays and stories and a play, is any of that necessary to read for the series or can I just read the title novelette and then move on?

[Anonymous No.21664362]

>>21664332
Try reading it.

[Anonymous No.21664384]

>>21664332
I made the same mistake as you did and was sorely dissapointed
it's basically elric of melnibone (which was written after the books were written, as an origin story since originally elric didn't have one) plus some shitty plays and essays. the elric of melnibone story is basically the only good thing of value within it
my advice is either to get the original 6 elric paperbacks with the whelan covers, which can be bought individually for as little as 2 dollars off amazon and ebay or the new elric hardcovers which were just released that contains pretty much all the stories

[Anonymous No.21664424]

>>21664332
>>21664384
Or don't bother with Moorcock's weak prose and read the comic book adaptations instead.

[Anonymous No.21664426]

>>21663832
>regular people ask other regular people if they've heard of what they're looking for, usually also hoping to get a good recommendation out of it.
Then why are they asking here? Wouldn’t it be more better to ask on reddit? Or other forums. Seems counterproductive to ask here.

[Anonymous No.21664468]

>>21659764
>what the actual fuck im never listening to any of you retards again, fuck you
Why the fuck are you taking recommendations here seriously? Are you brain dead?

[Anonymous No.21664472]

I liked The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia as a kid, where do I go from there?

[Anonymous No.21664478]

>>21663784
>>21663803
>>21663841
>>21663884
>>21663907
>>21664426
>>21664468
your smug righteous "uhh we don't acktually talk about books here" newfaggy posts are SHIT
fuck off

[Anonymous No.21664504]

>>21664384
Wait, so what order do I read the mainline novels in? Is the title novelette the “first”

[Anonymous No.21664531]

>>21664478
Only two posts are mine, and there's nothing "newfaggy" about stating a fact that's known for years now.

[Anonymous No.21664538]

>>21664504
Only read the ones that were originally published in the 60's. Moorcock gets up his own ass after that.

[Anonymous No.21664542]

Reading a story about romans in a fantasy world because someone here recommended it. Discussion about books is nice.

[Anonymous No.21664607]

>>21664504
>The first thing to realise is that unlike many modern fantasy series the Elric stories were not written in chronological order, so the original readers never read them in Book 1, Book 2, Book 3, etc. order. In fact, the very first Elric story published, 'The Dreaming City' (1961), actually takes place about a third or so of the way through the sequence. Moreover, the final novel, Stormbringer (1965), was written long before many of the novels that are set earlier in Elric's life and in that respect readers would have known how the series ended from quite early on.
>The 'Core' Saga*:
>Elric of Melniboné (1972)
>The Sailor on the Seas of Fate (1976)
>The Weird of the White Wolf (1977)
>The Vanishing Tower (1971) (aka The Sleeping Sorceress)
>The Bane of the Black Sword (1977)
>Stormbringer (rev. 1978)
Don't bother reading any of the elric stories written after the seventies

[Anonymous No.21664636]

>>21664542
What discussion? Nobody is discussing anything? Did you forget to take your meds.

[Anonymous No.21664698]

>>21664542
Discussion? We don't do that here. Don't believe me? Listen to these faggots:
>>21663847
>>21664426
>>21664468

[Anonymous No.21664706]

>>21664698
I mean, just scroll the thread and the previous few threads. Don’t know why you get pissy when people bring it up.

[Anonymous No.21664726]

>>21664542
What book

[Anonymous No.21664729]

>>21664726
A fantasy book.

[Anonymous No.21664756]

>>21657733
John Scalzi Really is losing his touch, thanks for another great review.

[Anonymous No.21664784]

>>21664478
>>21664698
Why are you getting mad?

[Anonymous No.21664794]

>>21664784
bro u mad?

[Anonymous No.21664803]

>>21664794
No, I'm wondering why you are. Given your childish posts.

[Anonymous No.21664820]

>>21664726
This one!

[Anonymous No.21664837]

>>21664820
That’s cool.

[Anonymous No.21664885]

>>21664803
bro why you mad tho?

[Anonymous No.21664893]

>>21664885
Not really mad, don't even know why you would think that. Just wondering why you're mad, to the point where you're starting to sage the thread for some stupid reason.

[Anonymous No.21664909]

>>21664893
He’s probably that old fag that takes pride that he waste twenty years of his life on 4chan or something. Best if you just ignore him.

[Anonymous No.21664936]

>>21664698
I know you’re taking the piss on the coomers, but it’s the sad truth. There’s little to no discussions here.

[Anonymous No.21664943]

>>21664893
you never told me why you were so mad tho
samefagging doesn't make you less mad lol

[Anonymous No.21664952]

>>21664943
As I said, only two posts are mine, and that's all. Don't know why you have so much trouble getting that.

[Anonymous No.21664967]

>>21664756
You can't lose something you never had to begin with.

[Anonymous No.21665004]

>>21664967
Old Man's War is decent. Don't know what you're talking.

[Anonymous No.21665037]

>>21664952
Don’t bother, anon.

[Anonymous No.21665052]

>>21664967
??? I remember people praising Scalzi for his older works

[Anonymous No.21665080]

>>21665052
He won a Hugo award with his book, so /sffg/ hates him because they’re ship.

[Anonymous No.21665088]

>>21665080
Tell me more about this "/sffg/" person.

[Anonymous No.21665090]

>>21665080
>He won a Hugo award
Ah, that would explain it

[Anonymous No.21665092]

>>21665088
Not much, just use Warosu and see the countless time they endlessly bitch about the Hugo awards while simultaneously telling everyone they don’t care about it.

[Anonymous No.21665101]

>>21665092
>they

[Anonymous No.21665107]

>>21665101
Yes, Anon, they. You do know English right?

[Anonymous No.21665124]

>>21665052
The Dispatcher series are not good science fiction novella. Also, it has a really dumb premise that I can't get over.

[Anonymous No.21665137]

>>21664472
Wherever you want. You’re an adult, you’re capable of making decisions on your own.

[Anonymous No.21665154]

>>21665124
Doesn't help that the first book is only an audiobook.

[Anonymous No.21665158]

Alfred Bester stories are so good bros

[Anonymous No.21665161]

>>21665158
Okay.

[Anonymous No.21665162]

>>21665161
Ok

[Anonymous No.21665171]

With the rapid technological advancements made in the last 15 years, is pre 21st century Sci-Fi worth reading? What about stories that predict "the year 2000"?

[Anonymous No.21665175]

>>21665171
Retro sci fi is much comfier than the shit they put out these days

[Anonymous No.21665178]

>>21665171
I don’t know, try reading them if you like it.

[Anonymous No.21665194]

>>21664756
I have a lot of conflicted feelings about Scalzi, probably among the most for an author. I'll have to think over what I've written and rated from him again in the future. I'm only talking about the content of his works by this. I think some of the hate for him comes from that he's unabashedly and openly a commercial writer doing it for the money. That doesn't concern me though unless it involves current and future coasting on name recognition for sales and hoping the money still comes in. I'm not yet ready to commit to the idea that COVID broke his brain in terms of my personal enjoyment, but it's seeming more likely. It's something that seems to have happened to a lot of people in general regardless of whatever they may believe about it.

>>21665124
I like the premise, I just don't it's done well.

>>21665154
The first book was released as both at the same time. The second and third were released as audio first.

[Anonymous No.21665198]

>>21660649
All sense of scale, wonder and gravitas was chirurgically removed by the time of the 3rd book and replaced with the sense of adventure of a bad Marvel film, Sanderon injecting reference after reference in the hopes that a stream of onion faces could, in fact, carry the entire story along without feeling cheap. He was right regarding the stream of onion faces, but completely wrong on the second point: Stormlight Archive became nothing but a writen Marvel saga, an inane collection of battles with no sense of danger, scale or even meaning, stringed together by half-assed messages that just reinforce the western, humanistic education everyone and their mothers receives these days. It has no art, it says nothing new, it posseses no spirit besides playing with fake rules of physics for the sake of offering a power fantasy to the vapid, empty californian teens that enjoy this shit.
Fuck Sanderson. Fuck the Cosmere.

[Anonymous No.21665200]

why is the rest of /lit/ so miserable

[Anonymous No.21665211]

>>21665178
Holy fuck, please get out of this general.

[Anonymous No.21665217]

>>21658296
It's only going to get worse. The new generation of writers in training has no inspiration and no spirit besides puking the same lame stuff they have been fed on by their equally empty, soulless authors. There is no real connection to the epic itself, no sense of wonder or genuine adventure, even less of so of actual humanity. Is all a game of fake magic rules and representation, an attempt to redeem themselves from the humanistic first sin by producing works whose only aim is to reinforce the zeitgeist. It's fucking dreary, and that they are completely, utterly separated from a worldview that can give meaning and purpose to fantasy means things won't get better anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.21665221]

>>21665211
Anon, what are you even doing?

[Anonymous No.21665228]

>>21665217
>The new generation of writers in training has no inspiration and no spirit besides puking the same lame stuff they have been fed on by their equally empty, soulless authors.
So the same shit that's been happening since Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.21665242]

>>21665228
It has indeed. The difference is, the hacks of previous generations had at least half-decent role models and inspirations to drink from, and some of them at least tried to say something meaningful from time to time. I honestly don't think Sanderson's influence in the genre will have any remarkable positive aspect to it.

[Anonymous No.21665246]

>>21665171
Many aren't that involved with technology, so it doesn't really matter. It depends on your level of tolerance for the disproven though. Ar one point people believed for example that Venus may have been a jungle planet or that Mars had canals. Then there are the entirely fantastical ideas that were never meant to be taken seriously. Overall, if you think the purpose of SF is to accurately predict the future you are going to be disappointed regardless of when it was published.

[Anonymous No.21665249]

>>21665242
>The difference is
There is no difference. Its the same shit.

[Anonymous No.21665263]

>>21665249
Whatever you say dude. Sure reading Guy Gavriel Kay (a man that it's still largely a hack in many aspects) is just as bad as reading the last YA release promoted with kink tags in Tumblr. Sure it is.

[Anonymous No.21665265]

>>21665242
Any influence he has will be overshadowed by the influence that the more popular women writers have on women. At most he'll influence some male writers who want an alternative to GRRM's style. Which is to say with how things are going, not much at all.

[Anonymous No.21665271]

>>21665265
Is GRRM that big still? I thought people turned on grimderp fantasy after the fiasco of season 8.

[Anonymous No.21665276]

>>21665263
>Still thinks tumblr is anyway revelant
Fuck, no wonder your posts don't make any sense. You're out of touch, or just parroting what's being said here.

[Anonymous No.21665280]

>>21665271
What does a tv show have anything to do with books?

[Anonymous No.21665281]

>>21665211
I do have to wonder if its our original shitposter; either way its narcissism is sickening.

[Anonymous No.21665287]

>>21665271
He still has a lot influence among male authors than Sanderson does as far as I can tell.

>>21665280
I also agree with this.

[Anonymous No.21665290]

>>21665280
>What does a tv show have anything to do with books?
The cultural reach of GoT has been largely owed to the tv show, not the books, and this includes potential writers.

[Anonymous No.21665292]

>>21665263
The proper reference would've been BookTok on TikTok, which does seem rather influential, or at least that's basically what everything I've seen wants me to think anyway.

[Anonymous No.21665300]

>>21665292
You are actually right there: using Tumblr was the bad reference and I am fucking stupid for doing so. Still, I would argue that the underlying culture it's the exact same.

[Anonymous No.21665301]

>>21665290
Wouldn't that mean Sanderson has less cultural reach since there hasn't been a show even if a significant portion turned on him?

[Anonymous No.21665302]

>>21665290
You sound retarded. GRRM was influential even before the tv show.

[Anonymous No.21665312]

>>21665301
I am not arguing that GRRM has more reach than Sanderson by a mile. I was genuinely curious about how much influence GoT still has, given the disaster that was the tv show.

[Anonymous No.21665316]

>>21665302
Not as nearly, and as far as I am aware, grimdark political fantasy with a preference for "realism" got big after the tv debut, even if the books were popular before.

[Anonymous No.21665324]

>>21665316
So, I definitely now know you don’t know what you’re talking about

[Anonymous No.21665328]

>>21665312
House of The Dragon has done very well in ratings and awards, so no, I don't think it's waning all that much among the relevant people.

[Anonymous No.21665333]

>>21665328
Fair enough, that makes sense. I concede.

[Anonymous No.21665343]

It is August 1899, and Thomas Edison proclaims his most amazing invention yet: the Spirit Phone Model SP-1, a device to communicate with the dead. At nearly the same time, a cocksure young mage named Aleister Crowley inexplicably teleports into the Manhattan home of Edison’s archrival, renowned inventor Nikola Tesla.

As insanity and suicide multiply among spirit phone users, Crowley and Tesla combine their respective skills in “magick” and technology to investigate the device’s actual origin and ultimate purpose. Embarking upon an adventure of astral travel, demonic invocations, and high-speed airship journeys, they are soon embroiled in a desperate race to stop the spirit phone's use by an unknown adversary to inaugurate a hell on earth from which none shall escape.

[Anonymous No.21665357]

>>21665343
Yes, we get it, you shill endlessly for a book that everyone ignores.

[Anonymous No.21665362]

>>21662773
Showboat World like much of his work is best understood as a fictional travelogue. Even if a plot is apparent, it's probably a vessel for a series of amusing traveler's tales, not the point of the novel itself.

[Anonymous No.21665364]

I'm reading three body problem
I thought I didn't like sci-fi before reading it but seeing people talk about it on /tv/ made me want to join in on the fun
I still don't think I like sci-fi but I'm going to finish it
The book makes me think of that episode where Data receives some communication and it's a little girl whose planet is being destroyed , I really loved that episode

[Anonymous No.21665366]

did the romans or greeks write any good sci fi or fantasy

[Anonymous No.21665375]

>>21665364
Why didn't you watch the tv series instead if that's primarily what you're into?

[Anonymous No.21665376]

>>21665052
People who never read anything before and didn't know any better. At his best he's only mediocre.

[Anonymous No.21665380]

>>21665375
I watched the first episode and decided to read the book instead because I prefer reading books over watching tv/films

[Anonymous No.21665386]

>>21665380
Ok, I just assumed because of the /tv/ part.

[Anonymous No.21665387]

>>21665004
>one book
>only rated as 'decent'

[Anonymous No.21665425]

>>21665137
I'm also an adult that likes making informed decisions. :(

[Anonymous No.21665443]

>>21665425
Then inform yourself than expecting others to do it for you.

[Anonymous No.21665459]

>>21665443
you're being a dickhead anon. leave the guy alone and help him. this is /lit/ not /a/. there is no need for this MAL-tier bullshit

[Anonymous No.21665491]

>>21665459
Not that hard to be informed.

[Anonymous No.21665505]

>>21664472
You don't know what you like, let alone anyone else. The best that you can probably do is pick something that is known to be popular and well-liked and read it. Then you learn what you liked from it and what you didn't and then pursue what you liked and avoid what you didn't.

[Anonymous No.21665509]

>>21665491
Yeah you must be a real fun guy
>>21665505
hes not starting from a blank slate. just post something similar. you know you can do it

[Anonymous No.21665517]

>>21665509
> just post something similar
Yes, so go and read popular and well-liked books

[Anonymous No.21665518]

>>21665509
It's not a blank slate, but interests as a child may not be the same as an adult. The writing is there, though it's faded into illegibility and thus is of little value.

[Anonymous No.21665523]

>>21665517
I dont understand the passive aggression. As if he would be satisfied going to read brandon sanderson or some shite. fuck off with that. why are you even here

[Anonymous No.21665549]

>>21665523
What passive aggressive? He liked popular and well-liked books, so go read more popular and well-liked books. Not that hard.

[Anonymous No.21665592]

>>21665523
>As if he would be satisfied going to read brandon sanderson
Maybe, he isn't you.

[Anonymous No.21665646]

>>21665523
>Anon names two books and nothing more
>He expects other people to figure out what he wants from that
Good lord, be more specific if you want recommendations, otherwise you'll get generic recommendations

[Anonymous No.21665675]

>>21665646
It’s like they expect people to know what they want when they don’t give any indication what they want.

[Anonymous No.21665686]

>>21665387
Yes, since decent means of an acceptable standard; satisfactory

[Anonymous No.21665695]

>>21665316
Then you’re not that really aware.

[Anonymous No.21665704]

>>21665343
Still not reading it.

[Anonymous No.21665738]

>>21665523
Maybe he does like sadernson, maybe he doesn’t. How are we supposed to know since he didn’t give a lot to go off by.

[Anonymous No.21665759]

>>21665387
What are you talking about? Old man war is a series of six books.

[Anonymous No.21665771]

>>21665759
He’s talking about the first book, or at least I hope he is.

[Anonymous No.21665779]

>>21665364
Keep reading it, it’s a good book.

[Anonymous No.21665786]

>>21665280
Nothing don't even know why he even brought it up.

[Anonymous No.21665803]

>>21665316
Do people really not read that much? Other authors were already copying off GRRM before the show.

[Anonymous No.21665804]

>>21665803
>Do people really not read that much?
Probably a zoomer who is talking out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.21665830]

>>21665380
As you should, you should always read the original source before an adaptation.

[Anonymous No.21665841]

>>21665366
no, and why would they?

[Anonymous No.21665847]

>>21665194
Thanks for clarifying on your views on Scalzi. Shame about his fall to grace.

[Anonymous No.21665859]

>>21665847
Yeah, not him, but I hate that authors try to coast off their previous work.

[Anonymous No.21665861]

Top 3 self-published fantasy according to /r/fantasy polls

[Anonymous No.21665864]

>>21665861
And why do we care?

[Anonymous No.21665866]

>>21665861
If you spend time on reddit, why not just stay there? Why even bring that here?

[Anonymous No.21665868]

>>21665861
I liked Orconomics, it was pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.21665870]

>>21665861
Okay? Is there a reason why we should care what a different site does? Don’t know why you even posted that here.

[Anonymous No.21665871]

>>21663921
Couldn't find it on mobilism. Bing'ed it and downloaded it off a sketchy ddl website.

[Anonymous No.21665874]

>>21665866
Mad?

[Anonymous No.21665875]

>>21665861
Why do you fags always bring up shit from other sites unto here.

[Anonymous No.21665880]

>>21665874
More confuse as to why a poll that doesn’t have anything g to do with us is being posted.

[Anonymous No.21665881]

>>21665875
I felt like it.

[Anonymous No.21665885]

>>21665875
Yeah, and they later say the don’t care what they do, but always post what they do here. Really confusing.

[Anonymous No.21665887]

>>21665880
Reddit is just a more moderated version of this site.

[Anonymous No.21665889]

>>21665885
You can stop gossiping about me now.

[Anonymous No.21665890]

>>21665887
Still don’t know why it’s being posted here.

[Anonymous No.21665892]

>>21665890
I already gave the reason earlier. I'll repeat in case you missed it: I felt like it.

[Anonymous No.21665895]

>>21665890
Because people on reddit actually discuss books and most likely the fags is/was trying to start a discussion but failed. Which just raises questions why he's even here to begin with.

[Anonymous No.21665903]

>>21665895
Then why not just stay in Reddit if that’s what he wants?

[Anonymous No.21665913]

>>21665861
>I'll make my character gay that'll get the wokepoints
>Ugh but men are icky I know I'll make him asexual that'll get me doublepoints
It's shit but Rowe knows what he's doing I guess.

[Anonymous No.21665953]

I hate reddit. I hate libtard. I only like standalone one off fantasy novels.

[Anonymous No.21666118]

>>21665953

[Anonymous No.21666208]

I'm trying to remember a fantasy book about a guy who kills his father and gets his father's powers, but then powerful sorcerers come to kill him and take his powers, and the setting is like Egyptian but without Egyptian mythology.

[Anonymous No.21666217]

>>21666208
It's been two months since you asked. Couldn't you have found it by yourself if you bothered to try?

[Anonymous No.21666361]

>>21666217
Sorry it's been awhile since I fed my AI new shitposts, it has a habit of repeating itself if it's not retrained every few months

[Anonymous No.21666467]

New thread
>>21666424