/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21638744]

Brainfuck Retarded Janny Edition

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[Anonymous No.21638764]

Malazan is supreme

[Anonymous No.21638769]

I read The King of Elfland’s Daughter and The Broken Sword on your recommendation sffg. What is with the weird heathenry vs Christianity stuff in those? Was it an actual common view that fantasy creatures, races, forces are opposed to the Christian God or is that drama flair?

[Anonymous No.21638900]

>>21638744
Dune is wildly overrated and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

[Anonymous No.21638904]

>>21638900
You can't really deny the importance of its themes and the ideas it brought to the table, but goddamn reading Dune was a chore. It's a book series I'm glad I have read, but I'm even gladder I won't have to read again.

[Anonymous No.21639025]

>>21638904
>importance of its themes and ideas
It's literally just thinly veiled allegory for the first invasion of iraq. There's absolutely no important themes or ideas present.

[Anonymous No.21639049]

>>21638764
Sell me on it. Or even better, if you really like Malazan, what are some other books you like? Let's see what your tastes are.

[Anonymous No.21639130]

>>21638769
>What is with the weird heathenry vs Christianity stuff in those?
Nothing in particular. It's really just a bunch of Atheists/Secularists with generic "le modern values" showing how tired they are of Christianity. What I do know is that books like TBS are shilled like crazy by irreligious readers such as that miserable prick Michael Moorcock. While I have no problem with those novels, people that LOTR or Narnia often bitch about how those two pagan-themed books are somehow "superior" over their Christian counterparts.

Regarding the personal beliefs of the authors of those two books, I know that Dunsany was an Agnostic of sorts. Not sure what Anderson was though.

[Anonymous No.21639170]

So, A Song of Ice and Fire, is a massive success among normalfags. And it's success has shown that there's a hunger for well written Fantasy works. With this in mind, why has no one tried to adapt the other classic or popular fantasy novels?
Why for example, is there no adaptation of The Black Company? Or the Book of the New Sun? Or the Prince of Nothing? Or Earthsea? Or even Conan?
Surely, modern audiences would enjoy adaptations of these fantasy classics. So why doesn't any studio wanna touch them?

[Anonymous No.21639191]

>>21639170
Fantasy and Sci-Fi is expensive to produce (see LoTR), and most such shows fail (see LoTR). GoT is a once in a decade fluke success.

[Anonymous No.21639201]

>>21639049
>sell me on it
Hard to sell it in a one sentence blurb as it’s a bunch of different things at any given moment. “A full picture of how geopolitical conflict can evolve while showcasing every angle” I suppose.
>what other books do you like
Sound and the Fury, Realm of the Elderlings, Confederacy of Dunces, Earthsea, Song of Ice and Fire (despite everything), Southern Reach, Never Let Me Go, Master and Margarita

I do think Fall of Light is Erikson’s best book though

[Anonymous No.21639234]

>>21639170
You are incorre t. The SHOW is success among normies. The vast, vast majority of them haven't and will never touch the books, and a notable minority don't even know it's based on a book series.

[Anonymous No.21639286]

>>21638769
I can't provide a concrete answer but Christianity has a long history of being antagonistic towards beliefs seen as pagan.

>The Black Company?
Tyranny is basically this
>Or the Book of the New Sun?
Too complicated
>Or the Prince of Nothing?
To gay
>Or Earthsea?
Already happened
>Or even Conan?
Already happened multiple times

[Anonymous No.21639327]

reminder that Harlan Ellison was a pedo

[Anonymous No.21639380]

>>21638769
>Was it an actual common view that fantasy creatures, races, forces are opposed to the Christian God or is that drama flair?
The only other author that I know of who has a similar setting is Gene Wolfe who plays it straight in Soldier in the Mist, where everything Herodotus wrote is 100% real, but the ancient gods just stopped playing a part in the world after the Incarnation. I don't think it was a common view and it's a great theme within The Broken Sword.
>>21639130
>Not sure what Anderson was though.
I can't really find anything online, but he doesn't strike me as a religious man. And TBS is a fantastic novel, vastly superior to anything Moorcuck wrote.
>>21639170
>Or the Book of the New Sun?
Unadaptable, literally. It would make no sense. Conan has a few movies and is today too racist to adopt. I don't think Prince of Nothing is popular enough. Black Company could be a B movie I guess.

[Anonymous No.21639390]

>>21639025
>It's literally just thinly veiled allegory for the first invasion of iraq.
I thought it was ''lawrence of arabia'' but in space.

[Anonymous No.21639411]

>>21639170
You don't want things adapted. Trust me

[Anonymous No.21639422]

So is the Exegesis of PKD literally just schizo word salad to the max?
I had to stop reading this garbage after 100 pages. Skipped forward and it only gets worse.
This is coming from someone who enjoyed Valis.

[Anonymous No.21639433]

>>21639422
>So is the Exegesis of PKD literally just schizo word salad to the max?
Yes.
>This is coming from someone who enjoyed Valis.
Then you knew what to expect.

[Anonymous No.21639446]

>>21639130
>Correction
**While I have no problems with TBS or Elfland's Daughter, people that hate LOTR or Narnia often like to bitch about how the former is better than the latter.
>>21639380
Which version of TBS should I read? I hear there's a revised version with immensely potent archaic language and the modern version that's said to be toned down. Also, yeah, MoorCUCk.

[Anonymous No.21639449]

>>21639433
At least in Valis it was presented in a somewhat compelling narrative, allowing the reader to suspend disbelief, e.g. when he talks about completely disproven 70s pseudoscience regarding the brain.
The unfiltered babble is really unreadable. 15 different metaphysical/religious theories thrown together without any care.
I guess it's the same with his other books. The downhill racing style of typing 100 pages a day on speed without ever looking back or fact checking. It's fun to read but when only the schizo substance is left, the fun is lost to me.

[Anonymous No.21639455]

>>21639170
Why is there no adaptations for:
>The Black Company
Edgy, not popular enough. It would make for a great adult-oriented animated series though.
>BOTNS
It's literally unadaptable. It would make for a loosely based animated adaptation though.
>Prince of Nothing
Bakker sucks.
>Earthsea
Actually adaptable most especially for the current year's woketard climate working well with the already left-wing material of the series.
>Conan
Too offensive and "le racist" for current year Twitter glowies.

Pic rel not related.

[Anonymous No.21639458]

>don't mind me, just ripping off Planescape and Difference Engine in your path
>but the actual plot of the book doesn't start until 200 pages in!
Is this the ultimate "le worldbuilding" book for Reddit content heads?

[Anonymous No.21639462]

>>21639170
>Why for example, is there no adaptation of The Black Company? Or the Book of the New Sun? Or the Prince of Nothing? Or Earthsea? Or even Conan?

[Anonymous No.21639528]

how is it

[Anonymous No.21639532]

>>21639446
>I hear there's a revised version with immensely potent archaic language
You ask skilly questions, this is the answer. It's absolutely epic and power. A proper tragedy. One of the best fantasy narratives, rivaling Conan in simplicity but also having the tragic note of Children of Hurin. I wouldn't read a toned down version.

[Anonymous No.21639548]

>>21639532
>>21639446
>intrigued, heard the same thing about the night land, look this up on wikipedia
>The original 1954 text is known for its unique prose styling which makes liberal use of archaic words, spellings and phrasings.[8] Examples include spelling "fairy" as "faerie", the word "glaive" in place of "sword", and archaic phrasing such as the word "will" in place of "want".

that's some really incomprehensible archaic stuff right there...

[Anonymous No.21639558]

best fantasy ever

[Anonymous No.21639571]

>>21639558
>SIX CRIMSON CRANES centers on an exiled princess who must unweave the curse that turned her six brothers into cranes
cute, sounds like a folk tale. dare i ask if it's actually good or is it "pozzed" like the kids say these days? furthermore, is it a standalone book?

[Anonymous No.21639575]

>>21639571
not standalone
not pozzed (hot asians only)

[Anonymous No.21639632]

>>21639025
Bait or retardation?

[Anonymous No.21639655]

>>21639458
I dropped it around page 250, it sucked.

[Anonymous No.21639683]

>>21639655
>around page 250
It somehow gets worse the more the actual plot starts developing. Extremely tonally inconsistent as well. Like I said, he went all in on the "le worldbuilding" and just throws all these concepts out there, but the world ends up becoming just too crazy to support its own story. For example, there's a clear leftist anti-authoritarian motiff and the government and militia are these authoritarian villains, but in a world THAT crazy and filled with so many monstrosities and abberations, anyone normal would actually be begging for any semblance of authority and control and support virtually any junta.

[Anonymous No.21639737]

>>21638744
>Greg Egan has a new novel and a new short story collection coming out
can't wait to pirate it

[Anonymous No.21639790]

Y'all memed me into reading catgirls from space fiction "The Pride of Chanur" and it was pretty good actually. I'm intrigued.

[Anonymous No.21639812]

>>21639201
Is the third Southern Reach volume good?

[Anonymous No.21639827]

>>21639812
no, but it's marginally better than the second. less gay office drama and naming off grievances.
what a fucking drop in quality form the first one. at least i was lucky enough to get to read the first one on an overnight camping trip. god that was so kino

[Anonymous No.21639837]

>>21639683
>For example, there's a clear leftist anti-authoritarian motiff and the government and militia are these authoritarian villains, but in a world THAT crazy and filled with so many monstrosities and abberations, anyone normal would actually be begging for any semblance of authority and control and support virtually any junta.
Just like real-life and just like real-life socialists don't get this. Accurate.

[Anonymous No.21639841]

>>21639827
>what a fucking drop in quality form the first one.
Annihilation was basically just a 1:1 rip off of Ballard's Crystal World and Roadside Picnic (Stalker). I suspect VanderMeer knew he couldn't just keep doing it, so he decided to change it up and it immediately went to shit.

[Anonymous No.21639847]

Maybe I'll just write a cultivation story about people stuck in hell since Bastion won't ever get a sequel.

[Anonymous No.21639849]

the survivors viewpoint from the great ordeal were pretty good, and kind of gave an overarching view of where bakker is going with both viewpoints.

the dunyain want their souls to be self-moving, that is their soul is the darkness that comes before, forming a system without a beginning or an end

the nogod on the other hand tends to absolute zero, when the singularity code of the sarcophagus is activated, the sranc switch to absolute zero thoughts, acting only as per the code and feedback from the sarcophagus, these two systems are at the extreme ends of the soul spectrum, every other entity lies between them, i thought it was pretty cool

[Anonymous No.21639850]

>>21639683
>>21639458
I dropped it on the first page. It was clear the author was more interested in himself than the reader.

[Anonymous No.21639853]

>>21639841
haven't read crystal world and of course the similarities to roadside picnic are pretty obvious, but i still greatly enjoyed it. i didn't think it was 1:1, i felt it had its own unique twist, i was fascinated by the tower/lighthouse and the lighthouse keeper but the "pay off" was so disappointing in every aspect, i can't imagine a worse way to follow up that book.
but i will be adding crystal world to my list, thanks

[Anonymous No.21639854]

>>21639850
>the author was more interested in himself than the reader
kek what a perfect way to sum up china mielville

[Anonymous No.21639866]

>>21639841
Is Ballard any good? I looked up Crash and his other more famous works and it just doesn't seem appealing at all.
>>21639853
I'd say it's an inherently limited genre. You can't write a story about the unknown and incomprehensible with a payoff that's satisfying and at the end meaningful. Roadside Picnic works because it's brisk, it's over before the issues of the theme start dragging the story down. If you had more information, more characters, and got an answer to the mystery, you'd be left unsatisfied because the unknown and unreachable is always grander than the explained and mundane. Tolkien in his Unfinished Tales notes that the vision of mountain peaks he describes is better if not approached closely. If his characters went there and just gave you a detailed account of them, the magic would disappear.

[Anonymous No.21639873]

>>21639866
J.G. Ballard was a master of Hauntology, and one of the greatest postmodern writers ever, imo.

[Anonymous No.21639877]

>>21639873
What is his best and most sci-fi work you'd recommend?

[Anonymous No.21639892]

>>21639866
i've understand that reasoning and i can see why it'd be true for a lot of people, but i actually almost always feel extremely satisfied by mysteries being explained, like an itch being scratched. whether it ruins the magic for me in some way, i can't say for sure, but i'm rarely disappointed by revelations, unless they're completely mundane and boring, like the lighthouse keeper being some old faggot reciting random fragments of sermon because he used to be a preacher

[Anonymous No.21639900]

>>21639877
Complete Short Stories, followed by Crystal World and High-Rise

[Anonymous No.21639928]

>>21639900
Those usually aren't the ones I see mentioned, I will check them out.
>>21639892
It depends on the sort of mystery you are reading. I always enjoy Wolfe because there's always a good answer to the mystery and the picture you get is interesting and intricate. Which often isn't the case, depending on the subject and author. Lovecraft is dull when you get to the mechanism of his stories, but the mystery stays interesting while shrouded.

[Anonymous No.21639961]

>>21639422
>>21639449
>Why is a bunch of posthumorous author notes, cobbled together into a book by other people, a complicated mess?
What a mess of a post.
>>21639737
Hope it's not a disappointment like Instantiation was.

[Anonymous No.21639981]

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.21639984]

>>21639170
Amber is getting adapted. LOTR and Wheel of Time got adapted. You don't want this shit. It would be better if there was an anthology show in the Twilight Zone format for fantasy short stories.

[Anonymous No.21639989]

>>21639984
>Amber is getting adapted
i hope CORWIN is a NIGGER

[Anonymous No.21640057]

>>21639170
>why has no one tried to adapt the other classic or popular fantasy novels?
They have?
>witcher
>wheel of time
>lotr
Eragon is also getting an adaptation, and yes, it will be full of black people.

[Anonymous No.21640065]

>>21639170
>So, A Song of Ice and Fire, is a massive success among normalfags. And it's success has shown that there's a hunger for well written Fantasy works.
I don't think so. ASoI&F basically appeals to people who are not really there for the fantasy aspect so much as pretend politics and vast cast of characters.

[Anonymous No.21640076]

>>21639458
>Is this the ultimate "le worldbuilding"
That's basically Mieville for you. Which sucks because he does build good settings only to proceed and have fuck all story in them.

[Anonymous No.21640116]

>>21640057
>Eragon is also getting an adaptation
Again? LMAO

[Anonymous No.21640139]

>>21639812
No but it has its moments and has a good conclusion

[Anonymous No.21640145]

>>21640057
They fucked up the adaption of the first book already back then, there is no hoe of a reboot being any better.

[Anonymous No.21640168]

>>21640116
>>21640145

[Anonymous No.21640179]

>>21640065
>ITS NOT FANTASY IF WIZARD DOESN'T CAST FIREBALL
This is the guy who tells you Gormenghast isn't fantasy

[Anonymous No.21640186]

I remember reading this many many years ago, is it worth revisiting? I really don't remember much about it

[Anonymous No.21640204]

>>21640186
Based purely on my recollection of reading it as a child I'm going to say no

[Anonymous No.21640208]

>>21640179
you feel pretty strongly about this. are you this the fantasy equivalent of being a strict hard sci-fi fag

[Anonymous No.21640242]

>>21640204
ok thanks, will strike it from my to do list

[Anonymous No.21640251]

>>21640179
I'm not denying it's fantasy, just pointing out that's not the reason people are drawn to it.

[Anonymous No.21640293]

>>21639170
There was a Black Company series in development for The CW. It thankfully fell through.

[Anonymous No.21640379]

>>21639575
How's the writing? Is it good in YA standards or just ok?

[Anonymous No.21640386]

>>21640168
WE WUZ GAY DRAGONS AN SHEIT

[Anonymous No.21640447]

>>21639989
I don't know, a story about a black guy whose dad is missing in current year?

[Anonymous No.21640622]

>>21639455
The Black Company's edginess is greatly exaggerated by reputation alone. There are far, FAR edgier fantasy books out there now.

[Anonymous No.21640699]

don't you hate it when some retard doesn't understand the characters you write or why they're talking about one character they all have a relationship with?

[Anonymous No.21640746]

What is the nicest edition of the Gormenghast trilogy to get? Ideally I'd like a hardcover rather than the Vintage edition. I've seen there is an illustrated trilogy book, then also a set of the three individual books which also looks rather great.

[Anonymous No.21640763]

>>21640622
Yeah, the one of the more disappointing parts of the novel was how bland it all was, I could barely tell they weren't just a regular army of any random warlord.

[Anonymous No.21640767]

>>21640699
Can't relate.

[Anonymous No.21640834]

YA isn't all bad.

[Anonymous No.21640845]

>>21640834
modern ya is very much terrible

[Anonymous No.21640940]

>>21640845
i love melodramatic struggles against needlessly cruel despotic rulers that want women to be faithful, loving mothers

[Anonymous No.21641385]

LOTM bros, it's almost time!

[Anonymous No.21641395]

GLURP GLURP

[Anonymous No.21641407]

>>21640699
This ultimately comes down to a reader wanting focus on a different character or just disliking that character. If the actual current thing happening is related or something big happened with them recently, it makes sense. Only if it randomly comes up and takes the focus of the conversation is it really warranted.

[Anonymous No.21641409]

Guys tell me what to read next!! I really loved all of William Gibson's stuff, Tried Snow Crash and didn't really vibe with it. I'm looking for something that's also techy, maybe hard scifi. Was thinking maybe Lin Cxu but idk helppp

[Anonymous No.21641462]

>>21639455
>adult-oriented animated series
I do not mean to condemn or belittle, but I have yet to see a convincing argument for this genre. Every single one boils down to saturday morning cartoons with foul language. It strikes me as just infantile in every sense with no redeeming qualities at all.

[Anonymous No.21641477]

>>21641462
Your take is correct. The genre is unequivocaly dogshit.

[Anonymous No.21641479]

>>21641462
I do love the Black Company, wizards are just E-4's, Specialists or Half-Screws, the most comfortable and desirable of all ranks.

[Anonymous No.21641518]

>>21641462
this is why anime exists

[Anonymous No.21641538]

>>21641518
What do you mean by 'this is why anime exists'? Are you saying that anime is superior to Western Adult animation or that the reason any adult animation, anime included, is simply to endulge infantile adults who are unable to enjoy other, adult-oriented, froms of entertainment?

[Anonymous No.21641541]

>>21639170
Why are fantasy book nerds so obssesed with tv/film adaptations?

[Anonymous No.21641566]

>>21641538
The former. The genre known as "Western Adult Animation" has never produced anything of true substance.

[Anonymous No.21641629]

[Anonymous No.21641679]

>>21641541
it's the ultimate validation that something is super surreal, guys

[Anonymous No.21641686]

What do you think about Realm of the Elderlings? Never see you guys talk about it.
Currently finishing the first book of the Liveship Traders trilogy and enjoying it a lot.

[Anonymous No.21641691]

>>21641566
I watched that league of legends show with my gf about a year ago, was pretty gud ngl

[Anonymous No.21641694]

>>21641691
I honestly wouldn't say it falls under that genre - neither does the Castlevania adaptation. When you say "Western Adult Animation", 90% of people think of shit like Family Guy, Rick and Morty, etc.

[Anonymous No.21641746]

>>21641409
Altered Carbon

[Anonymous No.21641766]

>>21641694
It's western-made animation with an adult target audience. How does it not fall under "western adult animation"?

[Anonymous No.21641783]

>>21641766
The same way New Wave music is still New Wave despite the genre not being New anymore

[Anonymous No.21641789]

>>21641462
I've been watching a lot of old saturday morning cartoons since having kids, and I enjoy them. It's not that I'm childish, it's that there's not a lot of good action-adventure stuff made for adults in a tv format (mostly movies). I like watching gargoyles fight robots, or kats in a jet plane save the city from time traveling evil wizard.

(And yeah no shit stuff made for children will have childish stuff in it)

[Anonymous No.21641798]

>>21641789
just take the shonenpill and be a weaboo

[Anonymous No.21641809]

>>21641686
It's great but don't read the last trilogy, Tawny man and Rain Wild have perfect endings.

[Anonymous No.21641817]

>>21641809
Wait, really?
The last trilogy shits the bed?
So the end of Fitz story should be Tawny Man's ending?

[Anonymous No.21641821]

>>21641789
>I've been watching a lot of old saturday morning cartoons since having kids, and I enjoy them

Nothing wrong at all enjoying such with your children, but when folk watch them alone, childless and as their primary source, or any source, of enjoyment I can't but help think less of them.

>>21641566
Neither has anime, it is all terrible, crude and infantile. Move on more adult-oriented entertainment.

[Anonymous No.21641840]

>>21641821
Part of growing old like me, Rockwell, is that you stop giving a fuck what other people think of the things you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.21641852]

>>21641462
Most classic Saturday morning cartoons were originally adult-oriented films shown before real movies. The Japs and the French made a lot of good ones in later times. They tend to be seen as a bad risk in the broader Western market.

[Anonymous No.21641863]

>>21641840
I find that false both now and throughout history. Permissiveness has never been a welcome virtue in a society that achieved any height. All you do is undermine the established norms and expectations already present.

[Anonymous No.21641875]

I'm finding Redemption Ark much harder to get into compared to Revelation Space even though I've heard people say the opposite. I think it's the much longer chapter length paired with a super slow drip feed of plot advancement. I don't think its fair to say "you don't read Reynolds for the plot" when at least in my opinion once things got rolling in RS it was pretty engaging.

[Anonymous No.21641895]

>>21641863
An old man watching gargoyle cartoons isn't going to destroy western civilization. Get a grip.

[Anonymous No.21641928]

>>21641895
It a symptom of the rot already present in the West. You know this.

[Anonymous No.21642132]

>>21640186
Watch the anime adaptation

[Anonymous No.21642195]

>>21639558
*Blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.21642209]

>>21642195
Catholic?

[Anonymous No.21642258]

>>21641895
What in the everloving FUCK is wrong jannies on this board?

[Anonymous No.21642282]

>>21642258
In this case janny was right, some fat retard larping as a nazi who goes on about how "The west has fallen because i can't get pussy" on a SFF thread is cringe as fuck fr ong no cap.

[Anonymous No.21642303]

>>21642282
>pointless trolling is ok
>unless it's pointless nazi trolling
Neck yourself bootlicker

[Anonymous No.21642411]

>deleting my on-topic book cover
boggles the brain

[Anonymous No.21642459]

I'd want to die at the ripe old age of 100 with two whores on my cock! *wink* My mind is like a sword; it needs books like whetstones to sharpen it... ohohoho, aren't I so witty?

[Anonymous No.21642463]

>>21642411
sffg is containment thread , "trolls" are just trying to negate discussion in typical imageboard powerplays.

[Anonymous No.21642465]

>>21642459
wow
it's so realistic for a lord to let all his peasants die

[Anonymous No.21642510]

>>21642465
It does tend to happen in collapsing societies that will shortly be nothing but ruins.

[Anonymous No.21642557]

What are some good post apocalyptic fantasy stories? Like, the gods are dead and all of (medieval) society has collapsed type thing.

[Anonymous No.21642571]

>>21642557
Prince of Thorns

[Anonymous No.21642572]

>>21642557
Dying Earth
Book of the New Sun
Zothique

[Anonymous No.21642577]

>>21640699
Go back
>>21637452

[Anonymous No.21642604]

>>21640622
Sometimes the fact that Catcher survived so much makes me wonder how any of the Taken stayed dead.

[Anonymous No.21642616]

>>21642557
I've really taken to post-post-(post)-Apocalyptic settings like Lord of the Mysteries

[Anonymous No.21642638]

Are there any sci-fi series which state at the very beginning that even if FTL and fusion power is likely impossible the conceit of his series is that it is possible?

[Anonymous No.21642656]

>>21642638
who cares

[Anonymous No.21642669]

>>21642656
I do otherwise I wouldn't be asking...

[Anonymous No.21642797]

>>21642638
Alastair Reynolds does with FTL, but I don't think anyone believes fusion power is that crazy. Just because the work they're doing now is fake doesn't mean it's that hard a problem on a 500 year time scale. Like machine guns. It makes perfect sense someone would, we just don't know how at the moment. With FTL reality pretty much jumps up its own ass. There's no concrete frame of reference for how that would work.

[Anonymous No.21642969]

>>21642557
You serious nigga?

[Anonymous No.21642971]

[Anonymous No.21642975]

>>21642969
>BOTNS
>best rendition of the dying earth genre
AHAHAHHA
Keep posting your shitty chart wolfefag

[Anonymous No.21642996]

Why the fuck are there no paperbacks of The Killing Star? Shit is insane

[Anonymous No.21643106]

I finally gave in and started reading The Wheel of Time. Right now in the middle of book 3.
It's weird to read. The books are hard to put down, but I'm not really sure I like them? I fucking hate most if not all characters, but the things happening and the general conflicts are nice.Tension is done really well. I don't mind the usual complaints people have about the series, like the first books are just Tolkien ripoffs or that the descriptions are too long and repetitive (I don't like it, but I don't hate it).
Everywhere I look, people praise the character work, and though I'll admit you could call it complex, I can't really root for over half of them. Surprisingly, I like Rand the most so far, and Perrin. Egwene and Morraine piss me the fuck off. Lan is cool.
A small part of me wants to drop the series, but i also feel like I can learn a lot reading it.

[Anonymous No.21643216]

>>21643106
Rand is the only good viewpoint character, the rest are terrible people

[Anonymous No.21643289]

Thinking of finally reading Black Company, The. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.21643416]

>>21643106
I like the anime battles at the end of each book (except book 1 that shit it's boring from beginning to end)

[Anonymous No.21643460]

>Hyperion books 1 & 2
Absolutely loved the world building and atmosphere, but have been warned not to read Endymion because it might ruin my perspective.

What similar books/series would you suggest?

[Anonymous No.21643487]

>>21643460
The world building in the second half is hot or miss. Space Tibet sucks ass, but the way ftl happens now is fucking insane.

[Anonymous No.21643565]

>>21639170
>Or even Conan?
The people who ended up making House of the Dragon were originally trying to make a book-faithful Conan show at Amazon, but it got cancelled due to "toxic masculinity". No joke.
https://www.screengeek.net/2022/09/29/conan-the-barbarian-series-abandoned-toxic-masculinity/

[Anonymous No.21643569]

>>21643565
When are things going to start getting cancelled for toxic femininity?

[Anonymous No.21643708]

I looked through the genres of my favorite media. Looks like dark fantasy and sci-fi horror are my favorite.

[Anonymous No.21643768]

>>21643569
Toxic masculinity = male virtues
Toxic femininity= female virtues
We already haven't seen a show about a virtuous woman for a decade or more so there's nothing to cancel.

[Anonymous No.21643881]

getting rather curious about ai so i thought i’d finally read asimov even though ive never been very into sci fi. where should i start?

[Anonymous No.21643884]

>>21643881
foundation

[Anonymous No.21643940]

>>21643881
you won't get any interesting speculative sci fi about ai from asimov. they're fun books but they're basically murder mysteries and clever pilpul around the laws of robotics.
as for good books about ai as we understand it now, idk. maybe neuromancer. stephenson's diamond age isn't about ai directly but there's some clever halfway related ideas in there

[Anonymous No.21644074]

>>21643881
Asimov is obsolete pre-New Wave shlock from the time when the genre was read only by children and weirdo professional nerds from RAND Corp. You'd be better off reading literally anything else

[Anonymous No.21644132]

>>21644074
You're just jealous of his muttonchops

[Anonymous No.21644283]

>>21643289
>>21643460
>>21643881
Warosu.

[Anonymous No.21644328]

I finished the Southern Reach trilogy. I've got some questions.
>What the hell was the light fragment that S&SB created when experimenting on Sauls lighthouse?
>Why did they make such a big deal about the Director coming back at the end of Authority, only for them to offhandedly kill her off?
>What became of the clone of Henry?
>Was the phone actually sentient?
If I had those questions after Authority, I would've told myself that it's shit that doesn't matter to the narrative / it's weird & magical and explaining it would ruin it, but Acceptance did a lot of over-explaining of small things that didn't need explaining. I wonder if there was more to it.

[Anonymous No.21644411]

Is virconium worth reading?

[Anonymous No.21644413]

>>21642604
I always assumed it was because they were taken out directly by other, well, Taken. Then again there was the Limper as well.

[Anonymous No.21644481]

>>21643106
I've never read more than 1/3rd of the first book, but over the years I have observed the following pattern in WoT posts

Book 1: Okay so it's just LOTR
Book 2: This isn't so bad
Book 3: Hey this is getting pretty good
Books 4 & 5: Things are dragging but maybe itll pick up again
Book +6: Oh my fucking god why won't it end

[Anonymous No.21644487]

This wasn't half bad and actually enjoyed it, why did you tried to convince me that female authors are bad writters?

[Anonymous No.21644588]

>>21638744
this mega link is a gold mine. you guys should advertise it more

[Anonymous No.21644615]

>>21644588
As the owner of said mega, I've thought about doing so, but I've never bothered. I've looked at the archives for a lot of boards and it's been posted a few times elsewhere. I really ought to work on it more again. Sometime, eventually, maybe.

[Anonymous No.21644727]

>>21644615
Needs current year updating.
(add DCC please)

[Anonymous No.21644758]

>>21643416
>any superhuman, theatrical battle in a book is now "anime"
I could change the minor details around on the myth of Hercules and you dumb niggers would call it anime

[Anonymous No.21644767]

>>21639984
Amber is genuinely the WORST trash I have ever read, bar none, and I have read some seriously soul-crushingly awful junk
A kikeflix adaptation is exactly what it deserves - ironically, the adaptation, which of course would hardly resemble the books at all, would probably be better than the source material for precisely that reason, but that's simply my childlike innocence being incapable of imagining making Amber worse than it already is

[Anonymous No.21644772]

>>21644487
>why did you tried to convince me that female authors are bad writters?
there is a very vocal subset of posters on this general (honestly, all over the website) that genuinely hate women and unironically believe they should not exist, they're such hardcore closeted-fag misogynists they give honest incels a bad name

[Anonymous No.21644774]

>>21644758
You seem to think the anime part comes from superhuman element, which is wrong. It comes from the way it's portrayed.

[Anonymous No.21644782]

>>21643106
>Surprisingly, I like Rand the most so far, and Perrin.
that's logical, because they're the designated protagonists of the entire series
>Egwene and Morraine piss me the fuck off.
stop reading, right now, I mean it, they never change - except to get worse - and they never get what's coming to them, they are so infamous among the WoT fandom for virtually ruining the series and for never having any character development or comeuppance that even die-hard WoTfags would honestly prefer the books to be edited and abridged with all mentions of them excised

[Anonymous No.21644795]

>>21644758
if you changed the myth of Hercules to be even more superficial and blandly one-dimensional and overpowered than the 1996 Disney cartoon, then it could handily be called "anime" in spirit

[Anonymous No.21644827]

>>21644727
I don't make any of it. Unless it's included in some relevant material it won't be there. I haven't looked in quite some time though. There's still uploads from others once in a great while.

[Anonymous No.21644888]

>>21644411
I love it. Easy read pulp. Melancholy dying earth

[Anonymous No.21645034]

I wasn't expecting to enjoy Mother of Learning as much as I did. I haven't binged a series in literal years. Is there anything else similar, particularly in regards to time loop shenanigans?

[Anonymous No.21645038]

>>21644481
Holy shit, you have basically summarized my experience with WoT.

The story needed serious editing, like half the chapters could probably cut because they're from random villains or side characters who never end up doing anything.

I personally dropped the series at book 6 or 7 I think when you get people from across the sea invading, and at that point I was just sick and tired of the conflicts raised from the earlier books not making any progress.

Ended up just reading summaries of the later books to see what happened in the plot, and I could only wonder how the fuck so many words could be wasted for such few plot developments. Never read the sanderson written books though, maybe those were way less wasteful with words.

[Anonymous No.21645050]

>>21644758
greek myths were the original anime

[Anonymous No.21645057]

>>21645034
It's pacing is too slow for long periods because of it being a web serial. A lot of the school side character introductions and plots go absolutely nowhere. But yeah, overall there is a much to like and the best time-loop story in recent memory.

[Anonymous No.21645069]

Reminder for all The Wandering Inn bros, Pirateaba took the entire week off to focus on finishing the edits to Volume 1 Rewrite. Edited by an industry veteran, rewritten by the author. If you want to start reading TWI, hold on.
Soon™

[Anonymous No.21645085]

>>21645057
>It's pacing is too slow for long periods because of it being a web serial
I'm fine with those parts and actually enjoyed them. It felt like an hourglass slowly emptying and building on everything.

>the best time-loop story in recent memory.
What about ones not in recent memory?

[Anonymous No.21645106]

Pic related was based. Crazy mixture of fantasy, magic, horror, WW1, and mechs.

[Anonymous No.21645139]

>>21645069
The irony is that it may be liked less afterwards.

[Anonymous No.21645143]

>>21645085
Honestly there's not really that many time loop stories that're good. Mother of Learning arguably popularised it among fantasy fiction, even if Groundhog Day was sort of the origin point of "stuck in a time loop" stories. It's a thing you tend to see more in games these days anyway because it's a bit more conducive to video games than a book.

[Anonymous No.21645148]

>>21645143
That's disappointing then.

>It's a thing you tend to see more in games these days anyway
There's been a single AA game in the last decade that had that anon.

[Anonymous No.21645161]

>>21645085
One of the /sffg/ books for the month is time loop, Replay. There's been some other good time loop stuff as well, like Palm Springs, a movie. There's a lot of time loop media.

[Anonymous No.21645168]

While we're talking about Web Serials, is anyone reading Pale? I liked Pact but Pale's length is a put off for me and I was wondering if anyone knew whether it was approaching it's end or still spinning wheels

[Anonymous No.21645171]

>>21645148
Not that anon, but if say you say games in general rather than AA, there are quite a few, even recently.

[Anonymous No.21645176]

>>21645148
I also have only read a couple time loop things myself, and the only one besides MoL I would tentatively recommend is Re:Monarch, but it's not quite as well-executed, especially given the time loops are more just "plot-mandated save points" because he doesn't start from the beginning every time, he just starts from some arbitrary earlier point.

[Anonymous No.21645177]

Anyone ever read Benford's Galactic Center Saga?
It took me a while to track down all the books from local stores my read through extended over a year or two. I really liked it though it didn't feel terribly cohesive at times.

[Anonymous No.21645197]

>>21645161
Huh. Probably should've checked first.

And I dunno, I'm more of a primer guy than groundhog day

And yeah,

>>21645171
Yeah if you include indie games, but I'd wager there's no more than 50 that were released in the last decade, even including them.

[Anonymous No.21645214]

Based.

[Anonymous No.21645224]

>>21638904
malazan is worst fucking chore
been at it for 5-6 years and im still at the point where zombie ash people get to feel poker once more
does it get better? also why the fuck do they keep changing narrators

[Anonymous No.21645237]

>>21639558
>female mc
who the fuck cares

[Anonymous No.21645241]

>>21639558
>>21639571
Wasn't there a western fantasy with the exact same premise except her brothers all get turned into swans not cranes?

[Anonymous No.21645245]

>>21645197
50 is still a lot. There's at least few non-indie that have that, or at least time mechanics in general. Re:Zero, Zero Time Dilemma, Life is Strange, Death Loop, Returnal, 12 Minutes, Lemnis Gate. Many others.

Primer is more about interactions between time loops. Another example like that comes to mind is The Man from the Future.

[Anonymous No.21645252]

>>21639981
wandering inn is about lizards fucking people and women problems

[Anonymous No.21645264]

>>21645245
It's really, really not. Particularly when I'm including stuff that is on par with Sweet bro and Hella Jeff
Also I don't want to nitpick to much, but isn't re:zero an anime? I'm digressing, I'm stopping. Books with time loops. Focus.

[Anonymous No.21645350]

>>21645264
Multimedia franchises exist. Originally it was a book. Then manga, anime, videogame, and all other mediums.

[Anonymous No.21645364]

>>21645264
If you just type time loop books into Google you're get a lot of instant results in the scroll bar at the top.

[Anonymous No.21645388]

>>21645364
Yeah, but the whole point is that I want to ask an actual person for recommendations.

>>21645350
>Originally it was a book
Oh.

[Anonymous No.21645412]

>>21645388
You could use it just to gather titles and then see what others have to say about them elsewhere. Given how few reply here, you're potential pool for any niche topic is rather low. Just because some random anon liked it, doesn't mean you will.

[Anonymous No.21645425]

>>21645412
Okay fair point, I'll fuck off then.

[Anonymous No.21645443]

>>21639449
He was an amphetamine addict who had a stoke. Expecting coherence from someone in that state is unrealistic to say the least.

[Anonymous No.21645446]

>>21645388
>>21645412
Here's some examples for you, but I'm not going to go into detail. This is from the /sffg/ bookshelf from the Goodreads group.
Replay: 4 reviews, 18 ratings mostly 4 or 5 stars

The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August: 2 reviews, 9 ratings, mostly favorable

All You Need is Kill: 1 review, 22 ratings,mixed reception

[Anonymous No.21645466]

We wuz Queenz and shiet mang, I swear to god.

[Anonymous No.21645484]

>>21645466
>9 years ago
I'm glad it all worked out in the end

[Anonymous No.21645492]

>>21645466
Lovecraft never really was a good choice for it. There are far better fantasy choices. Also, do you seek out stuff to intentionally upset yourself? That says 9yr old, from some random reddit user, on change.org
You couldn't care less about that award, or anything else involved about it. Why do you try to upset yourself as much as possible with stuff that is literally nothing?

[Anonymous No.21645499]

>21645139
>21645069
It's obviously going to be. I heard that pirate is trying to explain why Erin cared so much about Goblins initially. To make her look less insane and thankless.

I know that Erin's love for goblins even when they try to kill her and rape is the reason a lot of people stop reading in Vol 1 but I feel like explaining the reason so early will cheapen all the following Goblin arcs. Also Erin's own development.

[Anonymous No.21645503]

>>21642282
Don't lie, I said animated adaptations of novels are all infantile and terrible. Anime too. The jannies were wrong as they left the people I was debating with. Now why was that?

Is the Gormenghast works worth while? Based on what I've read of overarching synopsis it strikes me as being closest to Asoiaf.

[Anonymous No.21645511]

>>21645168
Haven't read it, but people who read it say that it's Wildbows best work yet. But I feel like people say that for every Wildbow project (except Ward, only liars like Ward).

[Anonymous No.21645514]

>>21645503
Gormenghast is a fantasy of manners with minimal fantasy elements and very little happening. Game of Thrones is an epic fantasy filled with action and no manners.

[Anonymous No.21645516]

>>21644767
>Amber is genuinely the WORST trash I have ever read, bar none
Why?

[Anonymous No.21645522]

>>21645514
I know, the point was it does not focus exclusively on violence, combat and war. There are aspects of political intrigue and courtly drama. That is what I was alluding to.

[Anonymous No.21645529]

>>21645522
They aren't close at all.

[Anonymous No.21645540]

>>21645492
I just thought it was funny because I’d been reading about Joshi returning the awards.

[Anonymous No.21645552]

>>21645540
As the most well known Lovecraft scholar that's to he expected. He probably took it very personally as an attack on him and his work.

[Anonymous No.21645561]

>>21645034
Not exactly time loops but more about timelines, you could try are Dark Matter and The Gone World.

[Anonymous No.21645579]

>>21645540
Do your think your image is funny? I think it's pitiable.

[Anonymous No.21645582]

>>21645516
NTA, but I could barely finish Nice Princes even when I was a teen, because it just seemed so juvenile to me even when I was a kid myself. It's so broad-stroked it almost seems like a parody of shlock portal fantasy, but it's played completely straight. The characterizations are just laughable, and the plot twists are straight out of Saturday cartoons. While not the worst thing I've read ever, personally (that would be Titan by John Varley) it's definitely one of the most laughably shlocky and predictable "major" fantasy series out there, and it really doesn't compensate for it with anything like good prose.

[Anonymous No.21645593]

>>21645503
>nazi larp
>unironic gurm fan
Can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.21645633]

>>21645540
You can tell this guy was doing exactly what he accused his enemies of. This certainly reads like a"frothing at the mouth" rant. Awards shows tend to be shams in one way or another, so whatever.

[Anonymous No.21645636]

>>21645516
the short answer is that it's a schizophrenic shaggy dog story whose major premise (basically a multiverse) is all but totally unexplored except as a get-out-of-jail-free superpower and all the characters are unlikable assholes with literal backstabbing disease
of course there's many other problems but I don't want to write a 3000 word essay on why Amber is awful for the umpteenth time in the past year

[Anonymous No.21645642]

>>21645582
please do not insult Saturday Morning Cartoons by comparing them to Amber

>>21645593
to the surprise of nobody, the anti-Tolkien is a dysgenic kike goblin

[Anonymous No.21645650]

>>21645636
That's why linking to the archive exists.

[Anonymous No.21645653]

>tfw there's now a "movement" to make S&S pozzed
Guess it was just a matter of time after the quasi revival of S&S.

[Anonymous No.21645654]

>>21645514
>>21645503
Gormenghast is fucking reverse Logan's Run, it turns out that faggy little Old Dark House plot is actually set in the boondocks of some 1970s style dystopian future

[Anonymous No.21645680]

>>21641409
Neal Stephenson

[Anonymous No.21645728]

>>21641409
A Fire Upon the Deep, Revelation Space

[Anonymous No.21645739]

>>21641409
Aristillus series

[Anonymous No.21645757]

>>21645492
Change from not really a fantasy author to black not really a fantasy author. Because niggers have magical significance in their religion, apparently. Butler would have told them to fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.21645792]

>>21645728
>A Fire Upon the Deep
>guys i'm looking for techy sci-fi
>oh yeah just read the book that abandons all its interesting sci-fi concepts in order to focus on the fucking talking dogs on an iron age world
KYS

[Anonymous No.21645801]

>>21645792
Wrong book dumbass.

[Anonymous No.21645810]

>>21645492
>i care about this issue a lot but why do you care about this issue??? you must be insecure to care about such an unimportant thing
you are so scummy

[Anonymous No.21645828]

>>21645801
no, i have the right book. maybe you were the one thinking of another book. you should probably look up the plot synopsis for fire upon the deep if your memory's failing you

[Anonymous No.21645870]

im having trouble finding a sci-fi that gripped me like The Expanse did, any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.21645901]

>>21645870
The Divide series by S J Dewes, only 2 books, not sure if there is going to be a 3rd.

[Anonymous No.21645903]

>>21645828
They don't even get to the talking dog planet until the last 3rd of the book. You're thinking of the sequels.

[Anonymous No.21645915]

>>21645739
Seconded.

[Anonymous No.21645928]

What the fuck is this thread

[Anonymous No.21645942]

>>21644328
I honestly think Acceptance having so many weird loose ends is a result of VanderMeer losing interest and having to write a third book for contractual reasons, I have nothing to back this up other than Borne and Dead Astronauts being significantly more interesting than that book and thinking it was simply a means of getting to put them out faster

[Anonymous No.21645953]

>>21645903
no, they get to the talking dog planet almost as soon as the book starts, maybe 30% into it at the latest.
the scientists escape the base where they awoke the ancient ebil and the escape ship crashes on the talking dog planet.
and whenever the talking dog plot does start, it takes over the entire book and abandons all the interesting plot threads, only to resolve them in a single fell swoop towards the end.
i'm not thinking of the sequels, this is all in the first boo and i've never read the sequels.
seriously man, i read the book last year. i'm not misremembering it. if you don't believe me, just take a look at the plot synopsis on wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.21645968]

>>21645928
we don't read books here

[Anonymous No.21645983]

>>21645870
The Cruel Stars is kind of like a lesser version of The Expanse with Guardians of the Galaxy vibes.

[Anonymous No.21645998]

>>21645953
I'm flipping through the chapters right now and you're retarded. Like, I'm sorry talking dogs gave you ptsd, but there's a good amount of world building here that's worth the entry cost.

[Anonymous No.21646014]

>>21644328
Typical failed trilogy where the author does nothing to advance the plot in the 2nd book and the 3rd is an incoherent mess. Just treat Annihilation as a standalone book.

[Anonymous No.21646122]

Not SF or F, but I just finished Able Team #8: Army of Devils and it was based and very redpilled.

[Anonymous No.21646145]

>>21646122
>Not SF or F

[Anonymous No.21646172]

>>21646145
>chadface.webp

[Anonymous No.21646178]

I like violence. Lots of violence.

[Anonymous No.21646183]

>>21646178
See: >>21646122

[Anonymous No.21646304]

Are SFF writers in general bad at prose (with a few exceptions)? I've been reading safari stories in old outdoor adventure magazines and it's shocking how much better written they are compared to their contemporary sff weird tales mags.

[Anonymous No.21646350]

>>21646304
>Are SFF writers in general bad at prose
There's only a handful who were good. Wolfe, Tolkien, Howard, Peaks, Clarke Ashton Smith and probably a few others.

[Anonymous No.21646450]

why does Reynolds hyphenate orangutan?

[Anonymous No.21646481]

>>21646450
>orangu-tan
Must be TDS

[Anonymous No.21646656]

>>21646450
how does he hyphenate it? the original spelling of orangutan was "ourang-outan", meaning "man of the forest", if he's separating it at orang-utan that's fine but it shouldn't be hyphenated at a different syllable because then it'd mean something completely different

[Anonymous No.21646704]

What is the GOAT "Bolo" story /SFFG/?

[Anonymous No.21646721]

>>21646122
>The KGB unleash drug-crazed killers who commit any horror to satisfy their addiction.

Sounds like something the CIA would actually do honestly.

[Anonymous No.21646771]

>>21639455
>Too offensive and "le racist" for current year Twitter glowies.
There's only like one or two conan stories that are overtly racist. I don't know why but most people think conan was raping women and saying "fuck kikes and niggers" in all his stories when he never did anything like that

[Anonymous No.21646786]

>>21639170
Aren't there already a bunch of Conan movies n' shit?

[Anonymous No.21646795]

>>21639025
Okaaaaay retard.

[Anonymous No.21646829]

>>21645653
>quasi revival of S&S
What Revival? S&S died almost 40 years ago, fat retards self-publishing a few books that have less than 10 ratings on Amazon/Goodreads isn't a Revival.

[Anonymous No.21646915]

How do we combine S&S with progression fantasy?

[Anonymous No.21646990]

>>21645139
Why

[Anonymous No.21647000]

>>21646704
I haven't read them all but I liked the rogue bolo story.

[Anonymous No.21647023]

>>21646721
Spoiler: The CIA are involved.

[Anonymous No.21647028]

>>21646829
What a bizarre seethe.

[Anonymous No.21647031]

>>21646350
>Wolfe
>good prose
AHAHAAHAH

[Anonymous No.21647036]

>>21639984
I hope they keep the incest

[Anonymous No.21647049]

>>21647028
He's right though

[Anonymous No.21647054]

>>21646990
Because it being written how it was is what attracted all the readers in the first place. Sometimes people don't like change at all. At most it's to attract new readers. If it doesn't do that, it's a waste. Then if the new readers only like the edited, then that may be all they read. If there are retcons, that's its own set of issues. I don't read any web serials, but quantity and consistentcy seem more important to them than quality.

[Anonymous No.21647062]

>>21646915
There's no one way. You can either come up with your own ideas or looking at what probably already exist on royal road or similar.

[Anonymous No.21647097]

>>21647049
No he isn't.

[Anonymous No.21647116]

>>21646829
He did say quasi revival. You're walleyed and conniving.

[Anonymous No.21647134]

>>21645968
We do, many of us just choose (and recommend) absolutely awful ones. I’d like to send a shout out to the anon a while back who recommended Eon by Greg Bear after I told him I enjoyed Rendezvous with Rama by Clarke. Eon is absolute dogshit in comparison: literal Patty-Sue saves the day, trite nonsense.

[Anonymous No.21647154]

>>21639528
Did anyone else first read this as Magic Stepdad in Prison?

[Anonymous No.21647178]

>>21647116
>>21647097
Name 10 S&S authors who got published in the last year.

[Anonymous No.21647197]

>>21647178
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55745413-the-unforgiven
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56849269-savage-realms-monthly-january-2021
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36580177-art-of-war
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39977753-son-of-a-liche
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44501594-sin-eater
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38769599-aching-god
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41885689-soulkeeper
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42872185-siege-tactics
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57097637-idols-fall
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45287676-knightmare-arcanist
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55893038-the-return-of-the-sorceress

[Anonymous No.21647205]

>>21643106
>Morraine piss me the fuck off
why? she's like a sorceress mom, it's funny.

[Anonymous No.21647211]

>>21639455
>Earthsea
Bro there's already like two adaptations with a third one coming soon

[Anonymous No.21647238]

>>21647211
lol remember how in the first adaptation everyone was white? what a trainwreck lmao

[Anonymous No.21647255]

any anthro books that aren't on the charts? I'm just looking for something with humanoid anthropomorphic animal characters

[Anonymous No.21647259]

>>21647255
Wind in the Willows, mate. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.21647311]

>>21647197
Heh... nice shot, kid... you've almost impressed me... but which of these are actually good?

[Anonymous No.21647335]

>>21647054
>At most it's to attract new readers
I think that's the main reason the rewrite became a thing, no?
I've wanted to recc the webnovel to a few friends but haven't because of how it takes a bit to get going and the more amateur-ish writing at the start

>retcons
The series is ripe with (mostly) minor inconsistencies, I don't think some of them being addresed is gonna change anything

I generally agree with you, but the first volume is surprisingly short compared to the newer stuff and with the output Pirate is averaging nowadays it isn't really taking much from the main content

[Anonymous No.21647396]

Fantasy

[Anonymous No.21647412]

>>21647197
S&S-sama... i kneel...

[Anonymous No.21647424]

>>21647197
Most of those aren't S&S by any reasonable definition.