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[Anonymous No.21635354]

Arrival at Sparta Edition

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[Anonymous No.21635391]

i just started the second trilogy of the first law, after reading the standalones, and all i can say is that, once again, the people who say "oh you can just skip x and go straight into y, it's not important" are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.21635407]

The most beautiful girl in the world, and she's a fantasy nerd like us ;^)

[Anonymous No.21635410]

Gimme a philosophical fantasy series

[Anonymous No.21635415]

>>21635410
Book of the New Sun and Lord of the Rings

[Anonymous No.21635465]

GLURP GLURP

[Anonymous No.21635472]

Bakker is KING

[Anonymous No.21635508]

>>21635407
Nice tits, would pump and dump

[Anonymous No.21635621]

>>21635354
What are some actually good space opera/interstellar war/multiplanetary civilization novels. I've read the big 3 Foundation, Hyperion and Dune and only the last one was good.

[Anonymous No.21635638]

Yo fuck that nigger Likaro.

[Anonymous No.21635661]

I'm not made of money anons so:
The book of the new sun or The second apocalypse?

[Anonymous No.21635741]

>>21635661
Libgen ma dude

[Anonymous No.21635788]

>>21635410
I’d recommend Second apocalypse, Bakker uses the setting to convey philosophy. >>21635415
Phenomenal recs as well. If you’ve already read TBOTNS though Wolfes soldier of the Mist is a good choice as well.
>>21635661
Depends on what you’re looking for, both are great. You got any preferences that would help with suggesting? BOTNS is more immersive and through the character’s perception/unreliable narrator. Second apocalypse has more POV characters and is written more “Biblically” at times, like the Silmarillion. You should read some excerpts of both though to help get a feel for the prose, or maybe just buy the first book of each and relegate one to the backlog.

[Anonymous No.21635806]

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.21635810]

>>21635661
tbotns is well liked and well known throughout sff circles. Bakker is just a /sffg/ meme and it's full of gay sex and child rape.

[Anonymous No.21635812]

>>21635661
Book of the New Sun obviously.
>>21635788
This is my 3rd attempt, after 2 deleted generals, to say that I am reading Soldier in the Mist right now and that it's a wonderful experience to once again read Wolfe at his best (this is the only major work I haven't read yet, alongside Peace).

[Anonymous No.21635834]

>>21635661
I just finished TSA, and just picked up BOTNS.
I would say that the prose alone is a big step, and I would have done them in the opposite order if I had the foresight.

[Anonymous No.21635881]

>>21635806
>The Wandering Inn
The title deceived me, the Inn doesn't wander around 0/10

[Anonymous No.21635889]

>>21635407
>refuses to let her husband impregnate her and instead raises other people's kids

[Anonymous No.21635931]

>>21634579
I think its fair to call it tropey since it did invent those tropes. So many things have been influenced by it in the past century that it can feel generic to some people reading it for the first time.

[Anonymous No.21635993]

>>21635407
Those fucking arms, though.

[Anonymous No.21636035]

Moorcock's quality seems pretty variable. The first Elric story where he's still emperor is fast paced and fun. The next story after that, Fortress of the Pearl, is a bloated snoozefest. Literally! In half the story Elric is either asleep or watching somebody else sleep. Any other stinkers to avoid?

[Anonymous No.21636103]

>>21635407
>doesn’t even talk about books anymore
>just dies One Piece reviews
>would still impregnate her against her wishes

[Anonymous No.21636188]

>>21634642
>>21634869
i've enjoyed the recommendations i've gotten here, although maybe it helps that i'm usually pretty specific about the kind of stuff i'm looking for and what i dislike.

[Anonymous No.21636238]

>>21635661
Get yo money up

[Anonymous No.21636431]

>>21635407
I'm more partial towards Elliot Brooks myself.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.21636452]

>>21635354
The Will of the Many, Hierarchy #1 - James Islington (2023)

The Will of the Many was a wild ride of fast paced action-filled events from beginning to end. That's impressive considering its length. The story was often ridiculous and sometimes unbelievable, though that's what made it so fun. I was expecting it to be somewhat more serious, but it was enjoyable enough to where I could overlook my concerns.

Three-hundred years ago the Cataclysm wiped out 95% of the world population. Over time technologies were rediscovered from the ruins, the foremost among them being the Aurora Columnae, which allow for the usage of Will. I wouldn't describe Will as magic or psionics, but rather more like a technological substitute that also grants the same set of superhuman enhancements. The Catenan Republic, an Ancient Rome stand-in, uses Will to form a world government, or close enough anyway. Their rule, and Will itself, is literally powered by the subjugation and oppression of its citizenry. To me this book had much to say about our times, though I felt there was a mixed message between its statements and actions, so I'll reserve judgment until the series has concluded.

Vis, the seventeen year old protagonist, was a prince whose nation was conquered and family was slaughtered three years ago. He's overcome by rage and usually solves his problems through berserk violence, but not always. He refuses Will and therefore society in general, as his dream is to one day escape Hierarchy and live where exploitation isn't omnipresent. Multiple parties have his life planned out for him and he doesn't have a say in the matter, which made it feel more plot than character driven.

If you've read the synopsis, you may be thinking this is an Academy Novel, so it may surprise you that Vis doesn't enroll into the Academy until later than you may expect. A lot happens before that, and I felt that the academy was more where he was much of the time, rather than necessarily what it was about. Vis does interact with many of his classmates, though mostly only a few in-depth, there's a bit of romance, and there are various activities both on and off campus. Personal Will usage isn't allowed on campus, so there's less of it throughout the book than you might think there'd be.

This book has a scene that may become infamous and memorable and that could get a lot of people talking about it, but I don't know in what way. I thought an early fight scene would be as outrageous as it gets, but I was wrong. I considered not mentioning it, but it's probably what I'll remember the book the most for, and I don't know how to feel about that.

I will definitely be reading the next book, especially considering the astounding ending that if the author manages to do well, will be awesome, and also divisive. I may end up retroactively rating this five stars if the series overall delivers this level of sheer enjoyment. I await the glorious absurdities to come.

Rating: 4/5

[Anonymous No.21636466]

>>21636452
I received this advance reading/review copy (ARC) from Saga Press through NetGalley. I appreciate being allowed to read it and have provided my thoughts on the book as anyone ought to do for having received early access for free.

[Anonymous No.21636467]

>>21636452
>magic school book
automatic 0/10
gtfo with that shit

[Anonymous No.21636473]

>>21636467
Does that apply to any sort of educational setting?

[Anonymous No.21636507]

is there a trove or whatever?

[Anonymous No.21636515]

>>21635889
They have a biological kid together. The fucking goober doesn't deserve her.

[Anonymous No.21636519]

>>21636452
your """reviews""" are shit
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.21636531]

>>21636507
This post lacks context.

[Anonymous No.21636545]

>>21636531
a trove, is a repository of fantasy books I can download.

I really dont wanna put piratebay on my shiny new work computer

[Anonymous No.21636551]

>>21636545
libgen

[Anonymous No.21636552]

>>21636507
zlibrary, book.lat, libgen, etc. There's plenty of options

[Anonymous No.21636569]

>>21636238
nobody asked for your gay shelf, faggot

[Anonymous No.21636579]

>>21636552
Not that anon, but didn´t get some of those taken down recently?

[Anonymous No.21636590]

>>21636552
>>21636551
thanks i used to only just use whatever was on audiobook bay back in my old computer but now I cant do that any more

>libgen
keeps trying to download viruses , my firewalls just exploded in my face

[Anonymous No.21636595]

>>21636579
book.lat is gone for sure

zlibrary seems to work but its a little old it seems

[Anonymous No.21636596]

>>21636590
>keeps trying to download viruses , my firewalls just exploded in my face
Stop using security theater bullshit. Firefox with uBlock is all you need.

[Anonymous No.21636611]

>>21636579
They're always having their domains messed with.

>>21636595
bo-ok.lat is up but they seem to be having server problems atm.

[Anonymous No.21636650]

>>21636569
poor and mad lol

[Anonymous No.21636774]

>>21636650
Retard who thinks Elpephant hide means the skin of an elephant
You've been humiliated. You will never come back from this, no mater how many times you self deprecatingly try to play it off as a joke or post your shitty shelf that has two good books on it
Faggot

[Anonymous No.21636892]

[Anonymous No.21636933]

We should make Reverend Insanity shill battle Bakkershill to the death for the right to shit up our general

Gardnershills just get lined up and shot

[Anonymous No.21636941]

Is there a way to make a fantasy story without using the Hero's Journey? I want a story about people actually living in their whacky ass fantasy world like its normal and living regular lives.

[Anonymous No.21636949]

>>21636941
There's SO many ways to. Defending a homestead as a story, for example, immediately throws the entire journey out of the window. Most stories do have a call, because that's just an inciting incident.

[Anonymous No.21636950]

>>21636933
Honestly, I´d kill for an decent wuxia webnovel recommendation. RI is just misery porn the farther it goes. It´s successor, the chinese pokemon novel isn´t any better either. But that one´s just bland in general

[Anonymous No.21636951]

>>21636941
...So just write a fantasy story set in a fantasy world, brain champion.

[Anonymous No.21636954]

Is Gondolin a small city? I've done some quick calculations (according to the scale presented in the book 'Atlas of Middle-earth') and the city itself should be around 6702.9m2 (or 21991.1ft2/4.16mi2).

[Anonymous No.21636962]

>>21636954
That's 1066.2 meters in diameter, btw.

[Anonymous No.21636983]

>>21636954
>>21636962
Did you know the Upright Horn of Min-Uroikas is nearly 4700 meters tall?

[Anonymous No.21637000]

>>21636983
Now that I did not know. That's pretty massive.

[Anonymous No.21637030]

>>21636933
Why do I have to battle bakkershill when roastie shills get a free pass?

>>21636950
Wuxia is pozzed by ccp

[Anonymous No.21637044]

>>21636983
Nobody actually knows how tall it is, but 5k meters sounds like bullshit, Aurang stood on top of the horn and was sniping niggas on the ground

[Anonymous No.21637057]

>>21637030
And yet even the CCp cancelled Reverent Insanity, but not it´s author.

[Anonymous No.21637072]

>>21636431
Why the fuck would anyone have their books oriented this way?

[Anonymous No.21637078]

>>21637057
yeah because ccp is pozzed, have you seen their (wuxia) tv shows? Absolute garbage, ticks every box on a commie brainwash checklist. Also that retard who reported RI got a tv show (and its absolute shit)

[Anonymous No.21637103]

>>21637044
Yeah, that's just based on what the Sohonc reported, and then measuring out the cubit on my own arm as described.

[Anonymous No.21637116]

>>21637044
Also, if I remember right the Nonmen had reported it to be like twice or four times larger, but it was men who actually employed some trig when surveying?

[Anonymous No.21637150]

>>21637078
They rewarded the snitch with his own tv show? That´s... that sounds like the CCP actually...

[Anonymous No.21637275]

>>21637078
All their shows have to stick to ccp doctrine, wuxia isn't the exception.

[Anonymous No.21637384]

>>21635881
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.21637388]

>>21635354
Does anyone know where to get Warhammer Fantasy novels (actual physical copies, not E-Books)?
Ive been trying to find some of the novels of the franchise for a while now, but there's nothing under a 100€/book.

[Anonymous No.21637402]

https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Xu_Xiaodong
This dude is an IRL wuxia protag

[Anonymous No.21637499]

>>21636983
Why is bakker so obsessed with bent cocks?

[Anonymous No.21637516]

>>21637072
So people can't see what they are when you use the bookshelf as your zoom background, obviously.

[Anonymous No.21637528]

>>21637516
Just find a different spot. They are clearly going out of their way to record a video in that spot to have the bookshelf behind them and then flip all the books around. It doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.21637534]

>>21637528
Then you can't show off that you own books and have maybe even read them.

[Anonymous No.21637858]

>>21635806
Wandering inn is unbearable so far.
Have I been tricked yet again?

[Anonymous No.21637862]

a shitty robot has to clean toilets, it then finds out that there are toilet humans who exist on earth, it seeks them out, it finds out that they are being poached by the NWO, it helps them and finds it to to be the purpose he forever sees, he uses his powers to destroy the poachers of the toilet humans.

[Anonymous No.21637996]

>>21635810
>Bakker books
>full of gay sex and child rape
Is this true?

[Anonymous No.21638024]

>>21637858
where you at?

[Anonymous No.21638067]

>>21638024
1.18

[Anonymous No.21638112]

any future/current scientists here?
if so, what are your favlurite scifi books?
personally blindsight by peter eatts and the three body problem series are top tier

[Anonymous No.21638134]

>>21638067
only 2 chapters from yesterday?
I don't know man , I love the series but it looks like you are doing a chore reading it. Maybe drop it or keep it as backburner between other series.

[Anonymous No.21638316]

Bought Children Of Time it's so so from what I've read. Loving eveyting with the insects seeing hoe thry developed and evolved but the stuff involving the human characters is pretty bland and generic

[Anonymous No.21638346]

>>21636238
The shelf that saved /lit/

[Anonymous No.21638357]

>>21637858
>W*novel
Of course it's shit.

[Anonymous No.21638374]

>>21638357
>he's still desperately suckling at the gangrenous poz-spewing teat of kikestream publishing

[Anonymous No.21638384]

>>21638374
Read old books negro. Been reading fantasy all my life and never read a book published after 2012

[Anonymous No.21638431]

>>21638384
2012, huh, so once you read your first book in 2012 you decided never to read any book published after that year.

[Anonymous No.21638436]

>>21636933
RIshill and Bakkershill are the same person.

[Anonymous No.21638455]

>>21638431
Nah my first book was Dragonlance Chronicles, all the kids talked about Dragonlance and Belgariad back in the day.

[Anonymous No.21638524]

>>21638455
Is the Belgariad still worth reading nowadays? I've heard that is the most basic of fantasy stories, but is it still good?

[Anonymous No.21638534]

>>21638384
oh shit is that a single volume fantasy book? Sign me up. I offer The Deep (1975) and The Mask of the Sorcerer (1995) as a reward thank you

[Anonymous No.21638550]

>>21638134
Different anon I think. I'm the guy who posted yesterday and was at 1.16. i just finished 1.20 and I think the prologue is ending soon since the Inn just got its name, and the protagonist seems to be getting te hang of stuff