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Jordan Peterson changed my life, I dont know why /lit/ hates him.

>> No.21633354

>>21633350
You were living a shit life and took the lowest beta male ever as your hero.

>> No.21633356

>>21633350
Change is not always good.

>> No.21633358

Peterson is part of the atheist system. He has no solution to offer and he is a plant. Peterson is the kind of guy who writes self help books to convince himself that he has the right ideas about life, rather than to really help anyone else.
I ditched the 12 rules when he started talking about salvation through god, personally. it's a book by a man born in a society fashioned by atheists for 300 years, and indeed is a generic teacher bug in some atheist university after the atheists revived the greek one to larp and also to build some fake intellectuel lignage lol, and who got depressed and turned drug addict because ''his'' wife died and who's daughter turned as usual into a whore.
Fatherless 20 yo atheist men are so lost in life they would listen anybody telling them what to do , especially if the guy puts on some mild authoritative mask as an attempt to make people believe he knows what he's talking about lol. Anyway, his advice is limited to ''clean up your room'' ie what atheist parents have been saying for over 50 years because they have nothing else to say as part of their educative plans lol. His audience is of young white men wrapped around his finger, there is something coincidentally feminine about how he does this; essentially he says very little but a lot and he peppers it with hysterical breakdowns to arouse sympathy. Is Peterson an intentional homosexual gateway? The 'daddy figure' ...fucking hell...For those who don't know, the most 4chan book of all time is 12 Rules for Life. It embodies the core impulse of 4chan, which is traditional larping without any real life experience. That's why Jordan Peterson is considered a dad figure, because he embodies this pretend play spirit of false authenticity in his own life. He talks obsessively about war and conflict, while never having experienced it. He idolizes free market enterprise, while from a country with a very robust state sponsored welfare system and schooling system, which paid his salary. He obsesses over traditional values such as dignity and stoicism, while being a nervous wreck over the smallest things, such as having to delete a tweet.
Jordan Peterson is the right wing zeitgeist. A permanently triggered manchild who complains constantly how immature the dreaded esjaydubblejoes are.

>> No.21633365

>>21633358
What the hell is going on with these filler threads always being replied to with a copy paste right afterwards. And it's just obvious it is because the replies are posted only a minute afterwards.

>> No.21633369

>>21633350
American Beauty changed my life by convincing me that I could fuck hot girls if I stopped kinda sucking as a person.

Getting bouts of vague aspiration from bad media as an impressionable young man doesn‘t make them not socially deleterious in general.

>> No.21633377

>>21633350
Hes a good enough dad (well, better than nothing) but hes only embarrased himself as of late and is not a great thinker. Hes just riding off his right-time-right-place as are all the people who talk to him.
He should retire. He's done enough

>> No.21633385

>>21633350
Jordan Peterson is catalyst for the change which is always happening, and so are many other public speakers/intellectuals. Some are not offended, and others are; nonetheless, both sets come out with intentions of learning and of perfecting what they imperfectly are.

>> No.21633435

>>21633377
His daughter slept around in college and got knocked up, and when the baby daddy married her and helped take care of Peterson and helped with the businesses and helped raise their child, she divorced him and started chasing chads who would pump and dump her as her youth begins to fade and her child foments intense resentment of her. All under the watchful eye of Peterson who let it happen. Embarrassing is an understatement.

>> No.21633439

>>21633350
He’s a bad Christian. He raised a coal-burning cheating whore of a daughter. He promotes genocide of rightful landowners. He’s a self-help guru for the lazy and the fatherless.

>> No.21633442

Clean that room, wash that penis. This is how the world changes.

>> No.21633451

>>21633442
Room: clean
Penis: sparkling
Peterson: rejected

>> No.21633458

i'm getting strong dirty room energy from this thread

>> No.21633463

>>21633350
Peterson is an absolute sophist.
>I disagree because I disagree, strawman, pseud story about a novel, appeal to emotion and change the topic a dozen times
He gets called out in his debate against Benatar for using logical fallacies and drifting and Peterson spergs out at one point >>21627252

Nothing is worse than a rhetortician. Peterson speaks a lot but says very little.

>> No.21633466

>>21633350
good job buddy! we’re all really proud of you, big guy :)

>> No.21633469
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When he was in an area he knew about and argued based on facts, data and academic research he was great. He knew about motivation, about brain psychology and all manner of things that aid a young man finding himself. This was wonderful during his early rise to fame. He helped millions.

Now he does not care about that, now he lies, omits data and tailors what he reads and who he talks to so that it may match his own preconcieved notions of what should be. He has become the very imbodiment of the concepts, the lies and the obfuscation he was trying to stop. Everything he has tried to stop, gender pronouns being the first, and have now long since passed as we have children transitioning. He is a failure. He has failed. He continues failing and the longer he continues failing the more it becomes apparant that the Far-Right, which was until now, the only thing he successfully stopped in it's tracks.

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Juden Peterstein

>> No.21633478

he sold out to the jews. jung would be ashamed to know he's the one carrying his legacy.

>> No.21633551

>>21633358
Eh didn’t read but looks like an effortpost so have a (You)

>> No.21633571

>>21633469
I think his best stuff is actually his Maps of Meaning book and the lectures he put online. All of that was before he got famous and has a lot of useful information.

>> No.21633616

>>21633358
>''his'' wife died
His wife is very much alive. I know this is a pasta but its author couldn't even get this simple fact right.

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>>21633469
>The only thing Peterson successfully stopped was the formation of the Far-Right/Alt-Right
>Did not stop gender pronouns
>Did not stop the radical left
>Did not stop drag queen story hour
>Did not stop HR from policing the workplacr
>Did not stop global homo pushing their agenda
>Did not stop climate change economic pressure
>Did not stop draconian governments
>Did not stop feminization of work force
>Did not stop politicization of education system
>Only stopped the Right uniting around ethnic and national grounds

Wild.

>> No.21633658

>>21633639
He did one thing. Can’t stop all evil.

>> No.21633663

>>21633639
>stopped the Right uniting around ethnic and national grounds
When did this happen? In what world do you people live?

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>>21633658
He did what he was told to do. That, or he wrongly thought that nationalism was a greater scourge than multiculturalism. But then why would he not condemn Israel for the same behavior he condemns in the West?

Very strange indeed.

>> No.21635230

>>21633350
Because you’re a stupid frogposter.

>> No.21635266

>>21633350
He's a big pseud. He doesn't help anyone. He's a snake oil salesman.

>> No.21635267

I don't get this "he is against community meme"
He only argues that individual responsability is where communal responsability comes from, so people preaching about communal responsability when they don't have personal responsability will inevitably have twisted views on right and wrong.
His message is not "fuck the tribe" as some retards seem to imply, it's "shouldn't you have a strong base to be built on if you want to be a pillar for the tribe?", So basically, fix your life first, and when it's more or less done, go ahead and act on the community.
Which is more or less what he did, when the benzos became a problem he retired from public life until he had that sorted out.
I'm not a big peterson fan, he clearly doesn't know a lot about the politics he talks about, but every time he is criticized here it's always in bad faith and intentional misinterpretations of what he says.

>> No.21635286

>>21635267
Bullshit sophistry. The implication of the neccesity to seclude oneself is already wrong. Peyerson is a snake that poisons your thinking with deconstruction just as a liberal tranny activist would do. They are of the same kind.

>> No.21635292

>>21635286
Not fighting political battles is not seclusion, you can participate in community life without being a political preacher trying to change the system.
In fact, most happy people do this, living in the community without eternally seething about the news.

>> No.21635302

>>21635292
>you can participate in community life without being a political preacher trying to change the system
Read:
"Don't do anything, goy"

>> No.21635314

>>21635302
The fact that you think "doing something" needs to be related to political ideology is proof you are the problem individual he talks about.
Your ideology is not a rational conclusion, but a cope of your own failures that you are convinced will be fixed if you change society.
Marx was a drunk neet and hitler was a failed painter, this is no coincidence, such ideologies are a product of cope, and to avoid that specifically people should try to not be literal failures in life before trying to tell others how to live theirs.

>> No.21635355

Why does he (Canadian) want me to ask my senator to help initiate regime change in Iran

>> No.21635373

>>21635314
I want to murder all the people like you in minecraft. You are pure ontological evil. In nature's order is the end to your life and your progeny.

>> No.21635387

>Me (helps old lady across the street: absolute evil
>Anon (wants to commit genocide(in minecraft)): good and pure hearted
Ah yes, anon showing his strong moral values and totally not his base impulses originating from cope here.

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>>21635292
>Let blacks, browns, trannies, gays and the left destroy everything you love
>You are actually the winning by not playing their game, instead you play our own game, alone
>play it harder when demographic enemies and political opponents increase in strength and number
>Dont link arms and fight back as a group, as a brotherhood of shared ethno-cultural heritage that is not for you
>That actually makes us weaker

>> No.21635875

>>21635373
You will never be a human.

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>>21633350
Wow, so profound, much philosophy

>> No.21635886

>>21633350
If you started with him that's fine but you should move on to better (i.e. primary) sources for religion, literature, and philosophy.

>> No.21635920

>>21635811
Notice how all I asked you is to not be a pathetic neet before trying to tell everyone else how society should be, and this is your response. Now, what do you think that says about you as a person?

>> No.21635934

>>21635811
>shared ethno-cultural heritage
absolute cope. I'll fight with you since I'm anti government telling me what I can and can't do, but I don't have any shared "ethno-cultural heritage" with any other "white" american
"Western heritage" or "white culture" is a cope by Americans who have had their true heritage (German, Anglo, etc.) erased by globohomo

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>>21633350
>Juden Peterstein is disliked for no reason at all

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>>21635314
Hmmm.

>> No.21635965

>>21635940
>Psychiatrists in top universities are all connected
Woah, amazing discovery anon. Let's you will tell me how coincidentally MIT engineers are commected to bill gates amd chinese universities?

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>>21635920
>>21635934

>> No.21635971

>>21635962
Yeah, and to sustain their retarded policies they had to invade other countries to not go bankrupt
>N-no that's not true!
Yes, it is, they even talked qbout it in their meetings and letters, they were on the brink of collapse for the whole war, the first reason to invade the soviets was the resources to keep their economy alive.

>> No.21635972

>>21635314
This guy >>21635811
>>21635302
>>21635286
>>21633742
>>21633639
>>21633469
is a leftypol psyop; ignore him. Notice how he pretends to be an oldfag and overuses lingo in a desperate attempt to fit in and spams his shitty overly specific memes.
Peterson is of course correct that oftentimes the best thing you can do to help other people is to improve yourself, if only for the positive influence you become.

>> No.21635974

>>21635967
I don't see how that relates to my post at all, it seems like now you are unloading your folder of memes other people made because you are incapable of indipendent coherent thought.

>> No.21635986

>>21635940
don't forget that he spoke at the Trilateral Commission

>> No.21635990

Judenstein shills are earning their shekels today.

>> No.21636015

>>21635971
>Yes, it is, they even talked qbout it in their meetings and letters, they were on the brink of collapse for the whole war,

Germany did not begin WW2 in a war footing, they were also spending countless Marks on foreign debt, war reperations, rebuilding industry and infrastructure they had removed, not destroyed, by France. Their munitions and armaments where woefully lagging behind the nations as they spent most of their GDP on their people. They made it work by instituting a closed-garden economy and autacky.

Stalin was an unreliable ally, every indication was, and later revealed in later years, that the USSR would of betrayed Germany at a critical point. As the Russian people have, throughout every conflict.

Read a history book.

>> No.21636025

>>21636015
NTA, and I don't know much about WWII from the german side (whereas you seem to know a lot), but I was taught that the Germs were able to revitalize due to confiscation of wealth from the only group that had not been impoverished (the jews) and using them and other groups as slave labor in their factories.

>> No.21636050

>>21636015
>Read a history book
>Doesn't cite any
People who do this always, without fail, never opened a book on the matter
I suggest "the vampire economy", if you want to know how the doomed to fail practices they used to rearm without tanking their civilian industry (BEFORE the war, mind you, since they were planning to start it since they took ppwer in 33, and based all their policies on that prospect)

>> No.21636055

>>21633350
We read Jung and Evola directly you dirty pleb piece of shit. Also king Zizek raped him in a debate an came out a better conservative than he is.

>> No.21636073

>>21633350
>Juden Peterstein

>> No.21636092

>>21635986
Holy kek no wonder this guy doesn’t like leftists

>> No.21636097

>>21636025
>Germs were able to revitalize due to confiscation of wealth from the only group that had not been impoverished (the jews) and using them and other groups as slave labor in their factories.
Lol. Confiscations were often just dealing with covert crime. During jewish emigration out of the Reich jews practically put the economy under as much of a pressure as Britain did. And don't you think it's pretty obvious that jews were the only rich people because they scammed the entire nation? You know, if war bond profiteers, rent scammers, pimps and drug dealers weren't jews, they would still lose their property.
I don't know where slave labor claim comes from though. Might just be bullshit. In case you didn't know, prisoners being put to work is a normal practice. Of course jews weren't arrested for being jews untill far into the war. In fact jews even held a public demonstration, successfully freeing some of their imprisoned men, during the war.

>> No.21636102

>>21636097
Oh yes, forgot to NTA

>> No.21636112

>>21633350
Show your face you anonymous coward

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>>21633350
>>21633469
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>>21633377
>Hes just riding off his right-time-right-place as are all the people who talk to him.
>He should retire. He's done enough
First of all cheques
Secondly Peterson is forming an elite think tank to take on the WEF
Stop sullying this site and get gud scrub. Peterson is building the west back great again.

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mfw this thread

>> No.21636159

>>21633350
I never trust a man with a whore daughter

>> No.21636216

>>21636121
>Peterson is forming an elite think tank
why don't you take his advice and start doing some thinking yourself? :^)

>> No.21636989

>>21633369
Unlike Jordan Peterson, Kevin Spacey is actually a man worth aspiring towards and emulating.

>> No.21637002

>>21633350
because he's a chud

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>>21636121
>Secondly Peterson is forming an elite think tank to take on the WEF
kek

>> No.21637020

>>21633350
He's a neutered shabbos-goy who only says what his owners permit.

>> No.21637144

>>21635971
You mean the country absolutely decimated by a previous war and a ludicrously onerous treaty they were forced to sign which basically enslaved their economy to the countries they had been fighting wasn't super financially stable? The fact is a certain party took those conditions and was able to turn the country into the most prolific war machine in human history in a shockingly short amount of time while implementing things like vacation time for all workers and family oriented policies as previously stated.

>> No.21637794

>>21633350
Because /lit/ is in 4chan, and in this chan people hate self-improvement.

>> No.21638007

>>21633350
"The Archtypical Boomer. He refused to understand and admit to the damage his politics have done to the West so they remove the capacity for the later cohort to fix it, thus claiming the damage is not damage but a new, greater society."

>> No.21638371

I wouldn't take life advice from a drug addict whose single mother daughter gets fucked by andrew tate