Hyperion & The Fall of Hyperion

[Anonymous No.21595836]

Kino. Just finished Fall. Incredible books. What a world Simmons created! I hear the last two books are rubbish, that's a shame.

[Anonymous No.21595876]

>>21595836
still reading the first one and yeah, probably the best sci-fi I read in a decade

does the sequel drop the "episodic" gimmick?

[Anonymous No.21595896]

>>21595876
The sequel does drop the Canterbury Tales type structure, which can be a little bit jaunting at first as it follows on exactly where the first book left off (really they were originally one book the publisher split into two), but I still think The Fall of Hyperion is just as good if not better than the first book.

[Anonymous No.21595916]

lol I just got to the second story right now. Reading a copy I borrowed from the library because I really loved the Terror by Dan Simmons (highly highly reccomend it)

My biggest complaint so far which is really breaking my immersion a lot is the constant references to "old Earth" or "pre-Hegelia".

I know that some sort of anchoring point should exist when writing a high scifi novel like this but I really don't think that if it were that far in the future that people would really be constantly talking about something from 800 years ago.

Also OP I highly reccomend the Terror if you like Dan Simmons. It's a completely different type of novel but I think you really get to see the power of Dan Simmons' writing with something a bit more grounded.

[Anonymous No.21596129]

>>21595836
Try listening to /lit/ less, Endymion duology is great. It's usually hated by pretentious types since its less 2deep4u than Hyperion and more of a straightforward adventure.

[Anonymous No.21596243]

>>21596129
No, it's hated because it's shit.

[Anonymous No.21596278]

>>21596129
>Shrike gets beat up by a girl
>MC sits in a corner while every sentient being in the universe has psychic sex with his gf
Endymion is garbo

[Anonymous No.21596335]

>>21595836
The first one was fine, but aside from the one with the mutated spacefarer dudes hunting a bro down inside a disintegrating wreck, which was awesome, the action scenes were interminable bullshit adn a reminder why scifi gets stuck in a ghetto

[Anonymous No.21596499]

>>21595836
i did not like hyperion, only a few of the stories (the priest and scholar)

[Anonymous No.21596502]

>>21596129
Endymion is space huck finn then endymmion 2 is Terminator 2: Shrike Fight Edition

[Anonymous No.21596505]

Haha wouldn't it be weird if your girlfriend was aging in reverse?

[Anonymous No.21596506]

>>21596499
Priest story is top tier kino. Broad Labia sucked. But The Poets tale rules.

[Anonymous No.21596512]

I love the ending of Fall.

[Anonymous No.21596521]

Read book 3 and liked it a lot better than 2 personally. Looking forward to reading 4 eventually

[Anonymous No.21596539]

>>21596512
>that cover
kek

[Anonymous No.21596613]

last two books are shit but i would recommend to read them anyway

[Anonymous No.21596657]

>>21596539

[Anonymous No.21596852]

>>21596657
>fully nude Aenea
SHE WAS 12 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK

[Anonymous No.21596920]

>>21596512
>>21596657
kino
amazing how western covers are ALWAYS inferior

[Anonymous No.21596971]

I'm still reading Fall atm but the way /lit/ consistently has garbage opinions makes me really look forward to Endymion
like...
>>21596278
that actually sounds really cool and wierd and I wanna read that

>>21596502
sounds cool man

also look at these covers, how can THAT be bad in any way?

[Anonymous No.21597010]

>>21596971
I am glad that I read the entire series. I took a break in the middle, and I think that it put a positive spin on my experience.
Space-Tibet feels like it is 80% contrived filler material, but the conclusion was worth the trek, even if it was bittersweet.

[Anonymous No.21597058]

>>21596278
>cuck shit
Wow i'm glad I didn't finish this series

[Anonymous No.21597184]

Hyperion is great.
Fall of Hyperion is absolute shit. any open mystery from the first book is explained and every revelation is an absolute disappointment.

[Anonymous No.21597270]

>>21597184
>what are The Lions and Tigers and Bears
based retard

[Anonymous No.21597363]

>>21596657
>>21596512
>>21595836
>>21596971
>>21597010
Holy shit, these covers are so cool. I bought the fall of Hyperion when I was a child and never read it. I have this fucking boring cover.

[Anonymous No.21597419]

>>21595836
>I hear the last two books are rubbish
Try listening to /lit/ less

[Anonymous No.21598361]

>>21596129
This
The climax of Rise of Endymion is such a worthwhile payoff

[Anonymous No.21599266]

>>21595896
Yeah. I was not prepared for how different they would be but still loved both. My biggest issue with the first book is that it is not the second and vise versa. It was brave of Simmons to change the structure so much. In retrospect I don't think there was a better way to do it, although each has its limitations.

I think it works well for the themes of the book. The first book introduces a lot of mysterious elements which are experienced in personal ways, with the personality of the people who encounter them coloring the truth behind them, then the second slowly puts them all together into a bigger rational picture where the difference between science and the supernatural is almost meaningless. It follows the progression from mysticism/paganism towards monotheism, and that Simmons pulled it off without feeling dry or contrived was fucking incredible.

[Anonymous No.21599442]

>>21598361
It really isn't. It's such a mid-ending.

[Anonymous No.21599460]

>>21596852
Relax. She's about 21-23 in that scene from the book.

[Anonymous No.21599471]

test

[Anonymous No.21599872]

>>21598361
>dude you timecucked yourself with a 12 year old lmao

[Anonymous No.21600838]

The covers look like a fantasy novel but the story is called sci-fi

[Anonymous No.21600974]

Just finished Sol's story bros... Why would timeterminatorjew do that to her bros

[Anonymous No.21600991]

Consul > Jew > Priest > Soldier > Poet > Detective

[Anonymous No.21601001]

How's Olympos? I picked up Ilium from the library a few years ago, read it, and thought it was okay (Homeric references worked much better than the Shakespearean references). The library didn't have Olympos, so I never finished it.

[Anonymous No.21601151]

>>21600974
Rachel's story isn't over.

[Anonymous No.21601423]

>>21599442
This.

[Anonymous No.21601615]

>>21600838
>with sufficiently advanced technology there would be no differentiation between tech and magic

There are type 2 civilizations and type 3 singularities/civilizations that may as well be god almighty in the concepts.

[Anonymous No.21601659]

Read Keats' Hyperion, now.

[Anonymous No.21601720]

>>21600974
Rachel becomes a fuckpig slut soon

[Anonymous No.21601726]

>>21600991
Wrong except for broad labia being last.

[Anonymous No.21602098]

>>21601720
plz no...

[Anonymous No.21602970]

>>21599872
what's wrong with that

[Anonymous No.21603163]

The first two books are bad but entertaining. The second two are entertainingly bad...

[Anonymous No.21603223]

>>21600991
Poet > priest > consul > jew > soldier > detective

[Anonymous No.21603360]

>>21595916
I think humans would still know about the planet they escaped from 800 years ago, that's a major goddamn event.

[Anonymous No.21603372]

>>21601001
You might as well read it. I don't think I'll ever go back to those two but I enjoyed them enough.