/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21584316]

This is the only series of books worth reading.

[Anonymous No.21584401]

>>21584316
what about the Warriors cat books?

[Anonymous No.21584405]

>>21584401
Not acceptable

[Anonymous No.21584427]

[Anonymous No.21584432]

>>21584316
But if you don't read the Qur'an you'll go to hell

[Anonymous No.21584437]

>>21584432
That's true.

[Anonymous No.21584590]

>>21584316
The Mission Earth series by L. Ron is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.21584860]

>>21584316
Didn't he get cancelled?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Handler#Controversies

[Anonymous No.21585058]

unsatisfactory ending

[Anonymous No.21585730]

Good Author.

[Anonymous No.21585741]

>>21584316
is that Harry Potter on the left?

[Anonymous No.21586010]

>>21584316
I re-read these about half a decade ago after noticing the wiki summary was full of terms I'd never expect to see used for children's books:
>"They have been classified as postmodern and metafictional writing, with the plot evolution throughout the later novels being cited as an exploration of the psychological process of transition from the idyllic innocence of childhood to the moral complexity of maturity. Likewise, the final installments of the series are also acknowledged for their escalatingly intricate ethical ambiguity toward philosophical ambivalence"

I was really amazed how much slipped by me as a kid. Though it starts as standard plot-fronting genre fiction, by the time you reach 'The End' it pretty much becomes a full-on existentialist novel, deconstructing the idea of a mystery, coincidence, and answer, a protagonist, antagonist, and side character, etc. It's also steeped in a weird miasma of cultural symbolism ranging from The Odyssey to Paradise Lost to Heart of Darkness. The Baudelaire's ascension to moral agency is literally capped off with a snake offering Violet a forbidden apple to save her life
I'm not at all surprised I saw so many people who read it as kids complain that 'the ending didn't make sense' or that 'he didn't answer anything'

[Anonymous No.21586523]

>>21585730
So true

[Anonymous No.21586527]

>>21585058
See >>21586010

[Anonymous No.21587134]

>>21586010
Not that there’s any point arguing against Wikipedia, but for me it’s always come across as a modernist children’s book rather than post-modern. You have these exceptionally gifted children thrown into a world full of idiocy, bureaucracy, dogmatism and evil- they are the glimmers of the light of reason in a modern dark age. Of course, by the end of the series the children are not unimpeachable- but then again, the modernist project was also not without its own ethical crises (WWI, WWII, etc.).

[Anonymous No.21587191]

>>21586010
How does it end? The last one I remember reading was the kids were shacked up in a lumber yard.

[Anonymous No.21587290]

>>21587191
Just go read it, Anon.

[Anonymous No.21587324]

>>21587134
For me it was like the kid version of a Cormac McCarthy novel. You have so much awful stuff happening that it's basically a nightmare world, all the adults are smiling cartoon villains, and every book ends with some kind of disaster that forces the kids to flee town and head somewhere else, but the irony is you know the next place will be even worse. For some reason that book with the circus sticks in my memory, IIRC that one is more fucked up than the rest

[Anonymous No.21587336]

>>21587324
>For me it was like the kid version of a Cormac McCarthy novel.
Well put

[Anonymous No.21587379]

I started reading the Gormenghast series and it reminded me a lot of these books.

[Anonymous No.21587411]

>>21587379
>Gormenghast series
Same, but the Qur'an

[Anonymous No.21587417]

>>21585730
I should read these at some point

[Anonymous No.21587484]

This series is Discworld, but less juvenile. Odd, considering it's a kids series.

[Anonymous No.21588227]

>>21587324
Circus one and the one where Esme Squalor is introduced (The Ersatz Elevator) were my favorites as a kid.

[Anonymous No.21588553]

Are these good or cringe?
The End was pretty definitive

[Anonymous No.21588559]

>>21585741
Yes. What a ripoff

[Anonymous No.21588564]

>>21585741
Yeah, but he impregnates his sister (which one, we'll never know. It's a MYSTERY).

[Anonymous No.21589829]

def deserves an adult reread

[Anonymous No.21589847]

>>21584316
And why is that? what makes it so special?

[Anonymous No.21590039]

>>21588553
I only read the first two books when I was a teenager. I don't really remember anything about the plot. Although I thought that Lemony being a wise ass punk was pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.21590051]

>>21584316
God damn i remember when a girl i met on internet reccomended me this one. I was not into literature as much as i am nowadays, but this is how it started for me, i remember just taking a glimpse in the first chapter and it was pure dogshit, but the thougth of sniffing the fuck out of some latina tomboy pussy really broke the chimp down on me, cant quit monkeying around baby, but i never stood a chance with this one, bitches loves cowboys and i got the entire wild west on my crib. My neighboor is addicted to methanphetamine, but Aliseth is you are reading this, i regret nothing

[Anonymous No.21590170]

>>21584432
Sorry I meant the Bible, my mistake

[Anonymous No.21590957]

I reread the first one last night. It really was a lot more miserable than I remember. Also, Olaf is a chad.
>Adopts 3 kids after their parents just die
>Give them 1 bed to share (it only fits 1)
>Call them orphans constantly
>Ask them to make food, but demand other food after they've already cooked
>Beat them
>Lock the youngest in a cage, hanging outside a tower
>Try to marry a 14 year old girl, in front of everyone in the town

[Anonymous No.21590964]

>>21584316
Its based tbf.
Not sure why its popularity isn't maintained, especially amongst the edge IG kids, like Beetlejuice or Nightmare Before Christmas

[Anonymous No.21591278]

>>21590964
Attention spans I guess

[Anonymous No.21591291]

>>21584427
Do they really translate books "intae" Scots? How widespread is this?

[Anonymous No.21591307]

>>21591291
It's a small thing. I think I've seen it twice in public, or at least, two books I recognize being translated into Scots. I'm curious to pick it up, but it's a bit shit that they stop after the first book.

[Anonymous No.21591989]

>>21591291
Its pointless because Scots is a spoken dialect.

[Anonymous No.21591992]

>>21584401
I have both and i love those

[Anonymous No.21592001]

>>21587191
The kids get their lungs filled with the fungus found in the Grim Grotto and a snake saves them with an antidote in a special apple. They realize the fungus is spreading into the world and they're the only ones with the antidote, so they set out to stop the virus.

[Anonymous No.21592499]

>>21591989
It's a separate language, as determined by the EU. Sure, a lot of it just sounds like a Scotsman trying to speak English after 20 pints, but you've got borderline gaelic words thrown in too.

[Anonymous No.21593512]

It's time to reread book 2

[Anonymous No.21593524]

Aren't you millennials getting tired of glorifying CHILDREN's books yet?

[Anonymous No.21593525]

>>21593524
Not yet, no. I'll tell you when I'm tired.

[Anonymous No.21593561]

>>21592499
>determined by the EU.
They also say men can be woman and woman can be men. Why would they be an authority on anything beyond globo-homo?

It is a spoken accent that should not manifest on a page unless for comic affect. Trainspotting was a shit-show of a book for that exact reason.

>t. Border Reiver

[Anonymous No.21593564]

>>21593561
>They also say men can be woman and woman can be men. Why would they be an authority on anything beyond globo-homo?
Sure, but it holds just an axe-wound more merit than a poster on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.21593571]

>>21593564
If there is a slightly smaller turd on my desk, it does not discount the fact that there is a turd on my desk.

[Anonymous No.21593578]

>>21593571
Sure, but it's two talking turds, and one of them is a supernational political and economic union, and the other is an anime loving turd that posts twitter screenshots on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.21595012]

>>21593578
i have no idea what this discussion is about but I would def prefer anything contrary (like a anon like you or him) over anything else usually

[Anonymous No.21595074]

>>21595012
It’s about love between two fellow weeb turds

[Anonymous No.21595374]

>>21591278
I think its because it lacked a universe people could LARP in

[Anonymous No.21595508]

>>21593524
These books are worth discussing because unlike 99% of YA literature they have aged brilliantly and have a level of thematic depth that is rarely seen in children’s fiction. Also, it’s really obvious when someone is shitting on children’s lit because they’re afraid of coming across as infantile and need to validate their own maturity.

[Anonymous No.21595522]

>>21584316

This is what I always hated about these kinds of books as a kid - they were engrossing and I would look forward to the next one in the series but having to wait for the next to be written and published when it was an ongoing project makes you lose interest over time or simply forget and then after a certain age you just don't care or have forgotten the plot entirely or the cliffhanger from the last book. This and The Keys to the Kingdom were two such series I greatly enjoyed but having to wait for the next installment and forgetting about it kind of ruined the whole thing and I forgot they even existed.

Re-reading them as an adult is fine but I fear I'll never capture that riveting attention they once held on my imagination as a child now.

[Anonymous No.21595728]

These are weirdly depressing, even given the title of the series

[Anonymous No.21596633]

>>21595374
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.21597187]

>>21593578
You will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.21597295]

>>21584860
Still got his netflix series released after all that.

[Anonymous No.21597331]

>>21584432
The Quran is implied in all book recommendations, it goes without saying

[Anonymous No.21597338]

>>21586010
>It's also steeped in a weird miasma of cultural symbolism ranging from The Odyssey to Paradise Lost to Heart of Darkness
What's the point of reading books if you have to read old shit just to enjoy newer shit

[Anonymous No.21597348]

>>21597295
Because "cancel culture" is a joke 99% of time and you have more rich people complaining about it than it actually affecting anyone

[Anonymous No.21597364]

>>21584316
For me, in middle school, it was The Edge.

[Anonymous No.21597806]

>>21597187
I would hope not, axe wound.

[Anonymous No.21597882]

>>21597348
It's also likely that him being a kike has something to do with worming his way out of it.

[Anonymous No.21597923]

>>21597882
Yes Jewish people are superhuman and are above literally everything and never ever have been on the receiving end of anything, I don't know people call me a psychopath when I say they should be all killed
I love 4chan

[Anonymous No.21598001]

>>21597923
You're a retard.

[Anonymous No.21599376]

Remember, you can teach these novels in school, teachers.

[Anonymous No.21599743]

>>21597882
based

[Anonymous No.21599776]

I wish mudslime pigfuckers got the fuck out of this site

[Anonymous No.21599815]

>>21597338

[Anonymous No.21600063]

>>21595508
Proof?

[Anonymous No.21600105]

>>21584316
The ending of this series is so fucking kino it elevates the entire thing

[Anonymous No.21600114]

>>21600105
this

[Anonymous No.21601428]

I'll never go bakc.

[Anonymous No.21601739]

>>21597364
Oh I like Chris Riddell. Neat.

[Anonymous No.21601757]

>>21592499
>Sure, a lot of it just sounds like a Scotsman trying to speak English after 20 pints
It sounds like a Scotsman trying to speak English sober and that's because it is. I've lived here for 15 years and its clear as day that its a dialect rather than a distinct language.

[Anonymous No.21601778]

>>21601757
Refer to further up the conversation

[Anonymous No.21602631]

>>21601757
Just because you hate what little culture you have doesn't mean what you speak is the truth.

[Anonymous No.21604323]

>>21584316
Diary of a winpy kid was pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.21604363]

>>21587191
>How does it end?
Basically the Baudelaires discover that their family history is so complex that they will never truly understand it. The "Series of Unfortunate Events" has no greater meaning or central point beyond what the title suggests.

[Anonymous No.21604381]

>>21595522
>I would look forward to the next one in the series but having to wait for the next to be written and published when it was an ongoing project makes you lose interest over time or simply forget and then after a certain age you just don't care or have forgotten the plot entirely or the cliffhanger from the last book
I always appreciated Anthony Horowitz for bringing each Alex Rider novel to a proper conclusion where you could stop reading them and still feel satisfied. It's probably because Horowitz was imitating the episodic nature of the James Bond novels, but I appreciated it anyway.

[Anonymous No.21604554]

>>21604363
cool

[Anonymous No.21604678]

>>21600063
t.

[Anonymous No.21604980]

>>21604678
I'm deboonking this post

[Anonymous No.21605064]

I will now proceed to go through each book and try to remember what happened.

>1
An older man tries to marry a 14 year old girl (and she's hot).
>2
The town smells like horseradish. A snake kills their parents.
>3
Violet eats lime something. A man falls into a lake, and gets eaten before drowning. A house on a hill is on the verge of falling off.
>4
They go to a sawmill for some reason, and someone gets his arm sawn off.
>5
The kids finally go school. At the end, they think they might see their parents (they don't, they're really dead).

I can't remember the rest, really, outside of the covers.

[Anonymous No.21606321]

The Tim Curry audiobooks are reall yneat

[Anonymous No.21606683]

>>21605064
The next one is the elevator one and it's the best of the series. And then the village one and that after that they get pretty convoluted and not good until the end.

[Anonymous No.21606700]

>>21604323
im convinced it actually isnt that bad

[Anonymous No.21606755]

>>21584432
>The third regurgitation of a jewish demon cult
Yeah, nah

[Anonymous No.21607034]

>>21592001
Sounds like the Cosmic Death Fungus.

[Anonymous No.21607039]

>>21593571
I'm Lemony Snickering at picrel

[Anonymous No.21607054]

>>21604323
>>21606700
this

[Anonymous No.21607062]

>>21595728
It quotes Phillip Larkin at The End as a man's dying words.

[Anonymous No.21607997]

>>21584316
What happened to children's books? They used to be so fun to read, now its all boring.

[Anonymous No.21608019]

>>21595508
>Also, it’s really obvious when someone is shitting on children’s lit because they’re afraid of coming across as infantile and need to validate their own maturity.
Sorry that some of us don't struggle with adulting like you do.

[Anonymous No.21608021]

>>21607997
>What happened to children's books? They used to be so fun to read, now its all boring.
Millennials got a hold of 'em. Now instead of writing books for kids, they write books for the kids millennials wish they themselves were. Don't believe me? Then why is there such a big push for "muh diversity" even though nine times out of ten, all that gets published is the same exact shit you got already but the love triangle's got a little bit more melanin?

[Anonymous No.21608086]

>>21607997
I think people are a lot more protective these days, and treat kids like retards. I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.21608087]

>>21608019
>adulting
I don't think you're there yet either

[Anonymous No.21608132]

>>21608087
>I don't think you're there yet either
Yeah, yeah, whatever. This whole "I'm gonna play it real cool and act like that anon didn't hit a nerve" routine is so played out at this point.

[Anonymous No.21608516]

>>21608132
No idea what you're talking about. I was just cringing at you using "adulting."

[Anonymous No.21608539]

>>21584860
>jewish
lol

[Anonymous No.21608827]

>>21608539
Shalom

[Anonymous No.21608875]

>>21584316
These books were too sad for me. Which evidently was an early sign of my extant depression, I'm guessing.

[Anonymous No.21608965]

>>21608875
It's time to reread them and cure yourself

[Anonymous No.21609641]

>>21608539
What does that have to do with anything

[Anonymous No.21609944]

>>21593571
kek you missed the response

[Anonymous No.21609950]

>>21595728
My mom bought them for me after we were homeless a few times. It worked wonders for improving my literacy. The series harps strongly how you can make your situation less shitty by applying a bit of competence.

[Anonymous No.21610139]

>>21597331
you mean the Bible ?

[Anonymous No.21610660]

>>21610139
Delete this

[Anonymous No.21611221]

I do wonder if the TV show is good

[Anonymous No.21611312]

>>21611221
It's decent but honestly only ok. The look and a lot of the casting is stellar but the pacing is pretty fucked, you can feel them struggle to translate some of the books across the medium.

It's got the same main issue the movie had, the actor playing Olaf has a huge amount of creative control and completely does not understand the character and thinks the whole show should be about their mugging.

[Anonymous No.21612609]

>>21584405
Why not?

[Anonymous No.21612797]

>>21611312
>>It's got the same main issue the movie had, the actor playing Olaf has a huge amount of creative control and completely does not understand the character and thinks the whole show should be about their mugging.
Yeah, I watched the first 3 episode and it feels a lot like the Neil Patrick Harrison show.

[Anonymous No.21613190]

>>21611312
I kinda liked Jim Carrey as Olaf. He definitely went a bit overboard on the silly shit, but if he had kept that in check, he probably would've nailed it.