haruki murakami

[Anonymous No.21572985]

thoughts on this nigga? do people hype him up too much?

[Anonymous No.21573012]

>>21572985
"why no white gurl wanna have a sexu wit a china man!"

[Anonymous No.21573017]

>>21572985
>nigga
Have more respect. He’s Okinawan.

[Anonymous No.21573057]

>>21572985
comfiest writer i've read, but he will never get the nobel

[Anonymous No.21574357]

>>21573057
>comfiest writer i've read
agree

[Anonymous No.21574379]

>>21572985
Read his books and find out.

I enjoyed:
>South of the Border; West of the Sun
>Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World
>Kafka on the Shore
>After the Quake
>Tony Takitani (film)

I hated:
>Norwegian Wood

Want To Read:
>IQ84
>Wind-up Bird Chronicle
>Underground: The Tokyo Gas Attack and the Japanese Psyche

[Anonymous No.21574382]

>>21573017
Eat shit, simp.

[Anonymous No.21574979]

He's frequently criticized for writing the same plot, the same characters, same themes (milquetoast middle class man semi-employed searches for a missing woman he used to know, postmodern surreal shit happens) but I would rather he write what he knows and write it well than go after superficial sense of variety. You can point all this stuff out and feel superior and clever, but at the end of the day, if you read the work and you enjoy it then the critiques don't really matter. That's my view on it.

Also he's criticized for writing women from a coomer perspective. I think the implication is that this is bad, but I feel this is also a superficial critique as well

[Anonymous No.21575151]

i love the cover to graduation by the artist formerly known as kanye west

[Anonymous No.21575199]

>>21574379
why does everyone dislike Norwegian Wood?

[Anonymous No.21575217]

>>21575199
It's a weird one is why. He sort of tries for a character study except all his characters put themselves out there in such a way that a study of them is really unnecessary, you know from first glance what they're like and they never evolve past it. He's too honest and upfront of a writer to focus the plot around characters who we know intimately very quickly.

[Anonymous No.21575227]

>>21575199
I thought it was ok.

[Anonymous No.21575251]

>>21572985
comfy as fuck. there are few writers with the consistency he displays even if he can get a bit samey.

[Anonymous No.21575296]

>>21574979
>>21574979
He's masterclass at making the same plot with the same characters feel new and comfy every time

[Anonymous No.21575374]

>>21575296
precisely

[Anonymous No.21575597]

>>21575227
The scenes in the dorm were funny.

[Anonymous No.21575751]

>>21572985
I liked Underground. Most of the interviews are mundane and samey but i suppose that's the point, some of them hits hard for me though and that's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.21575754]

>>21575374
hear hear

[Anonymous No.21575768]

>>21573057
The Nobel is bullshit anyways.

[Anonymous No.21575791]

>>21572985
Writes airport literature.

[Anonymous No.21575822]

>>21575791
nah, he's a bit too weird for normies

[Anonymous No.21575849]

Can't say his books weren't comfy reads, especially the part about being young and interested in literature, but some of the subplots he writes(like the one with the retarded old man & the cats in Kafka On The Shore) just veers into the parts of magical realism that I find annoying and trite.

[Anonymous No.21576509]

>>21574979
Those criticisms aren't even justified. They couldn't hold up to scrutiny at all.

[Anonymous No.21576528]

>>21575251
>>21575296

[Anonymous No.21576530]

>>21575199
It's my favourite work of his

[Anonymous No.21576570]

I read a post on here ages ago that summed it up really well. It said something like 'he isn't a great writer when it comes to plot or character, but that isn't why I read it. I like spending time in his settings; the immaculately clean, spartan apartment with the coffee brewing in the morning, whilst not quite obscure classical music plays, barely louder than the cat's purr. You know the phone is about to ring, but if it never does that's okay too'.

I'm a shit writer but you get the idea, other anon said it much better sorry but I can't remember 100%

[Anonymous No.21576592]

For the people who want to read John Grisham but still feel superior about it.

[Anonymous No.21577416]

>>21572985
>Do people hype him up too much
No, he might actually be the one writer who gets the correct proportion of shit and praise flung at him. That being said I have only read 1Q84 so I only have that to go off of. I read that he said his books seem to be very popular in wartime or when the present seems bleak, and you can see why when you read him. 1Q84 felt like an example of how the aimless life continues no matter the stressful circumstances.

[Anonymous No.21578027]

>>21575199
It insisted upon itself. Which for me, was a detriment to the story. If it had taken itself less seriously, I would have liked it.

[Anonymous No.21578067]

>>21575199
It was the first of his books I read and I like it better than any of his others. It's just different from the rest but I wish he wrote more like it

[Anonymous No.21578166]

>>21573057
This. Even if the plot makes no sense, I really enjoy reading his books.
Kafka in the shore made me look up libraries in my area. Didn't get the same feeling as described in the book though

[Anonymous No.21578208]

>>21573057
Comfy indeed. breezed through 1Q84 and Wind up Bird.

[Anonymous No.21578218]

>>21575768
I don't get why Ishiguro got nobel and Murakami don't. Ishiguro isn't even that good

[Anonymous No.21578224]

>>21572985
What I noticed is that he seems good at making literature out of his reading experiences. His first two novels are a clever combination of Brautigan and Vonnegut. Sheep Chase is a combination of Chandler and Carver. Kafka on the Shore is basically his version of Ryu Murakami's Coin Locker Babies. Norwegian Wood is his rewrite of The Great Gatsby. It goes on like this. I almost think he always has very specific models in mind when writing. There's a short story (Dabchick) where he simply rewrites Kafka's Before the Law and turns it into an absurdist comedy with a weird twist ending.

[Anonymous No.21578255]

>>21578027
whta does "insists upon itself" mean?

[Anonymous No.21578681]

I've only read Wind-Up Bird Chronicles and if all his books are similar then I'm a bit disappointed, I preferred the war story and the shadow world hotel to the rest of the book because the main character is a real terpila

[Anonymous No.21578997]

>>21576570
You're right anon, you are a shit writer!

[Anonymous No.21579006]

>>21578681
That war story was fucking amazing. Couldn't put it down.
I was very disappointed with the rest of the book though.

[Anonymous No.21579018]

>>21572985
Just think his novels are really comfy and almost calming

[Anonymous No.21579020]

>>21578255
it means he watches Family Guy

[Anonymous No.21579131]

Very comfy to read while listening to smooth jazz and sipping a vodka perrier with lemon

[Anonymous No.21579146]

>>21573057
>comfiest
>>21575251
>comfy
>>21575296
>comfy
>>21575849
>comfy
>>21578208
>Comfy
>>21579018
>comfy
>>21579131
>comfy
I guess he's kinda comfy

[Anonymous No.21579151]

>>21579006
I'm reading it right now and could not agree more.

[Anonymous No.21579675]

>>21578218
I think Remains of the Day is very close to perfect. Murakami hasn't written anything close to that

>>21578997
>>21576570
Fuck off mate, what he wrote was nice

[Anonymous No.21579720]

>>21578224
>Norwegian Wood is his rewrite of The Great Gatsby

Really don't get this. NW is the opposition between the idealized, mystical, ungrapsable girl and the horny, annoying, inevitable girl. GG is selling meth to get idealized but quite unmystical bitches

[Anonymous No.21579835]

>>21572985
Good writer of this Generation

[Anonymous No.21580442]

>>21579151
Stay put because there is a second part to it much later

[Anonymous No.21580790]

>>21573057
Yea the book by him i’m reading is extremly comfy

[Anonymous No.21581405]

>>21576528
Your point? Those two contributed something. You posted an irrelevant Trump meme. I'd rather you leave and they stay.

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY/Ar.iI No.21581455]

I HAVE NEVER READ ANYTHING BY HARUKI MURAKAMI, I THINK DUE TO A VAGUE AVERSION TOWARD HIS APPARENT FIRM STATVS IN THE ZIONGLOBALIST HIERARCHY OF PROMOTED LITERARY AUTHORS, BUT I HAVE WATCHED «NORUWEI NO MORI» (2010), ADAPTATION OF HIS HOMONYMOUS NOVEL BY TRAN ANH HUNG: SVPERBVS CINEMATIC OPVS; KIKO MIZUHARA IS IN IT, SO, IT IS MADE BETTER; JONNIE GREENWOOD MADE THE MUSICAL SCORE, SO, IT IS EVEN BETTER.

[Anonymous No.21581465]

>>21572985
He’s good. He’s easy to read so a lot of people have nominally-informed hot takes on him.

[Anonymous No.21581486]

>>21572985
he likes a lot of american stuff. sort of weird. doesn't he write his books in english first and then translate it back to japanese or something

[Anonymous No.21581550]

>>21581455

[Anonymous No.21581587]

>>21572985
good but he's basically a 19th century writer stuck in modern days, the type of novel he writes has already been done to a certain extent by the british and others

[Anonymous No.21581910]

>>21572985
I love this nigga like you wouldn't believe it

[Anonymous No.21582881]

>>21581486
I believe that's how he began writing his first ever book. He said that knowing fewer words in English helped him write without constantly thinking of what word fits best.

[Anonymous No.21582959]

>>21581587
I agree but I think the setting still makes a difference. Felt refreshing after reading a lot of older books.

[Anonymous No.21582967]

>>21581587
Sounds like you haven't read his first two novels or his crazier short stories. They are nothing like 19th century literature.

[Anonymous No.21582980]

>>21581455
>SVPERBVS CINEMATIC OPVS

[Anonymous No.21583152]

>>21572985
I like him because I have yellow fever
I still prefer the other Murakami

[Anonymous No.21583529]

>>21579675
>Remains of the Day is very close to perfect
Your comment made me pick up this book. I am 100 pages in and it is a little boring, nowhere near perfect. The concept is not that interesting and the prose is just okay i guess.
The only near perfect book I have read is one hundred years of solitude and it is a delight from page 1.

[Anonymous No.21584727]

>>21572985
his first novels are good but he gets repetitive very quickly, i prefer his short stories, they are very comfy and melancholic.

[Anonymous No.21584741]

>>21572985
He’s fun. A great atmospheric writer who scratches a certain itch. He is best spread out though, like one book a year, so he can be appreciated better. I’ll always love The Wind Up Bird Chronicles, no matter what. What a fun book

[Anonymous No.21584838]

>>21572985
Historians consider him a joke and dont even read "the end of history"

[Anonymous No.21585515]

>>21572985
I thought that was Fukayama lmao

[Anonymous No.21585524]

>>21578218
Ishiguro is better.
>>21572985
Reddit: the writer.

[Anonymous No.21585530]

Read his stuff in one or two sittings. Not the kind of thing you can pick up put down.

[Anonymous No.21585537]

>>21572985
Is there a Murakami chart? What should a newb start with? What would you compare him to?

[Anonymous No.21586815]

>>21584838
>>21585515
based retard

[Anonymous No.21588164]

>>21585537
Honestly he is unlike anyone I can think of. My advice is the same as it is with any author: read in order of publication

[Anonymous No.21589084]

>>21585537
start with
>1Q84
>Kafka on the Shore
>The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle

[Anonymous No.21589990]

>>21572985
I really loved the wind up bird chronicle, I have yet to find another book from him which is on the same level. I did enjoy kafka and hard boiled wonderland too

[Anonymous No.21590717]

>>21572985
Hackruki Muracuckmi. Those are my thoughts on him

[Anonymous No.21590937]

>>21572985
Why do I get a distinct feeling that this thread keeps getting remade?

[Anonymous No.21591134]

>>21590717
>smartest /lit/ poster

[Anonymous No.21591135]

>>21590937
he's a writer for redditors so of course he's popular here

[Anonymous No.21591168]

>>21572985
>went to uni
>got married
>opened a business
>started writing
i'm so fucking jealous of his life

[Anonymous No.21591393]

>>21585537
Just go into the sffg database there are several charts

[Anonymous No.21591400]

>>21585515
arr rook same

[Anonymous No.21591439]

>>21572985
Lieutenants story in The Wind Up Bird Chronicle is a fine piece of literature

[Anonymous No.21591470]

>>21572985
Gonna be honest: if he were a white man nobody would give a fucking fuck. He's hyped because he's LE SENSITIVE JAPONESE MAN. When LE SENSITIVE JAPONESE ARTIST writes about underage sex and other weird shit when he doesn't know how to make his meandering nonsense interesting he's an ARTIST, when a white man does it he's a pedo and a creep. The vast majority of Japanese creative run on this weird national branding that Westerners have bestowed upon them by which their shit doesn't stink.

[Anonymous No.21591483]

>>21591470
fag

[Anonymous No.21591522]

>>21575199
the protag is stupid and makes stupid decisions at every opportunity which hits too close to home. also he fucks the old lady instead of either of the main girls wtf.

[Anonymous No.21591524]

>>21591483
It's a hard pill to swallow but Japan is a brand, like France is a brand. France is where you get a movie where some chick sucks a cock on screen and it's groundbreaking and "daring" and it wins an award. Japan is the same shit with with a more artsy bent. It's where the chicks get their material 10 years before switching to France

[Anonymous No.21591538]

>>21591522
But I liked the old lady. The scene at the train station where he kisses her while crying is one of my favourite scenes.

[Anonymous No.21591552]

>>21579675
>>21583529
Ok I finished the book. I have to admit it was pretty good. Not perfect but really good.
I think it was very smart how ishiguro used a perspective of a butler to get his message across. The last scene of "at that moment, my heart was breaking" made my eyes water.

[Anonymous No.21591556]

>>21591524
france is cringe, japan is cringe, but their entertainment to keep the wagies content is alright.

[Anonymous No.21591578]

>>21591538
I liked her too but doesn't she tell him she's a lesbian by telling him her backstory? and that all her flirting was a joke? why did her plow her like 20 times? and why right after their funeral for naoko? why didn't he just get with midori to begin with if that's what he wanted in the end? stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.21591594]

stopped being relevant a long time ago.
His claim to fame was being the neo-cons useful idiot

[Anonymous No.21591607]

>>21591578
Yeah the plowing part right after the funeral was kind of weird.
>why didn't he just get with midori to begin with if that's what he wanted in the end
But that's the point of the whole novel. He was still hung up on past to get on with the future. I always thought Naoko was not right for him. She would always depress him. Whereas Midori was a bundle of joy. And I don't think he actually got with Midori in the end. The novel ended on a vague note with him contemplating where does he stand.

[Anonymous No.21591629]

>>21591607
I thought the sex after the funeral followed very naturally, I would have done the same. It was a moment of true connection, not lust, it was beautiful in its own way.

[Anonymous No.21591788]

>>21573012
is that a real issue that asians have?

[Anonymous No.21592031]

He’s trash for midwits who read less than five books a year

[Anonymous No.21592053]

>>21591788
Yes, european culture is everywhere, european castle, european knight, european church, renaissance, german musical school(the japs love it), victorian era, computational machines. All of those made by white people. All the while white women would rather die than date an asian guy.

[Anonymous No.21592107]

>>21592053
well, Im glad Im living in a different reality than yours. But then, race-realism only applies when you are so unappealing compared to your same-race contemporary that you feel the need to gatekeep men of a different ethnic background.

Would be like if Moe Syzlak (hypothetically) publically said at least he doesnt look like Apu, but in reality, Apu got more pussy than Moe. Even a blonde (the squishee refill girl).

My wife was born of old money from mississipi, I was of immigrants and grew up overseas long enough to see the east asian chest puffery. And been hanging out training with The Base and Three Percenters after the corps, so I have a little perspective of both flavors of race realism, both are about race purity to keep the "darkies" (SEA for asians, and blacks and dark skin hispanics for whites) away fron their women. It comes from a place of fear and paranoia, or feeling weak in other areas that are more meaningful.

[Anonymous No.21592161]

>>21591470
>if he were a white man nobody would give a fucking fuck
He is a white man.

[Anonymous No.21592408]

>>21592053
>european castle, european knight, european church, renaissance, german musical school
nobody in europe gives a fuck about that postcard kitsch, that's the exactly the kind of stuff that tourists, posers and chuds care about.

[Anonymous No.21592423]

>>21592031
if you read less than 5 a year you ain't reading Murakami

[Anonymous No.21592428]

>>21592161
nah

[Anonymous No.21592511]

South of the Border, West of the Sun is underrated unless I missed the threads. The only work by him I have finished and greatly enjoyed.
Plebs that have never opened a book may want to watch "Drive my car (2021)" to have a taste of what his works feel like.

[Anonymous No.21592691]

>>21592053
>
the entire enlightment was stolen from other cultures and states around the world. all westoids know how to do is violence. cope

[Anonymous No.21593282]

>>21591788
No, anyone who has been to Asia realizes that they don't give a fuck about life outside their country, usually not outside their town/city even. Just like anywhere else. They find foreigners strange and untrustworthy the same as all people do.

[Anonymous No.21593755]

>>21591552
I'm glad you gave it a go and that you liked it in the end. I cried at the exact same point when I read it. On your recommendation I'm reading One Hundred Years of Solitude and you are absolutely right, it is wonderful from page 1. I'm a little annoyed that it has been on my shelf for years and I never got around to it so thank you for the push.

[Anonymous No.21593984]

>>21572985
I finished Killing Commendatore last night and found it very relaxing
I could read hours of Menshiki and and the protagonist talking about weird shrines
But I thought it was weird how they kept talking about the 12 year olds tits

[Anonymous No.21595771]

gotta read kafka on the shore again

[Anonymous No.21595976]

>>21591168
Just 80s Japan things. Imagine being a youth in the decade when some asian island could almost become the numbah one economy in the world. And my boomer grandparents think they had it good during 70s real existing socialism......

[Anonymous No.21595989]

>>21592511
>Plebs that have never opened a book may want to watch "Drive my car (2021)" to have a taste of what his works feel like.
Its nothing like majority of his books. No magical realism and no wacky stuff either. I liked the movie, but it was pretty much standard "my wife cucks me and I don't go all out" things that arthouse movies from Japan love to do. The only interesting thing was the concept of Dostoevsky in various languages.