/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21549243]

I'm in the GPT-4 Pre-Alpha Previewers group and it can write a 4k-word story as good as anything I've ever read, in any genre and style and in just a few shots. The writing market will be flooded 10x within weeks of this thing hitting the public.

[Anonymous No.21549282]

(And that's a good thing)

[Anonymous No.21549293]

>>21549243
It's extremely hard to make it do anything consistent and it's usually going to make wild divergences from prompts.

[Anonymous No.21549294]

Give us a sampler, prompt could be "Holden Caulfield and Ernst Jünger are in the same squad in starship troopers and in brutal combat against the bugs. Written in the style of a Shakespearian tragedy."

If not then kinda meh threddy

[Anonymous No.21549299]

>>21549243
You’re writing a 16 page story? So what? High schoolers do that every semester. You ain’t shit op kys

[Anonymous No.21549450]

>>21549243
And I will refuse to read any of it.

[Anonymous No.21549459]

>>21549243
Can you post an example?

[Anonymous No.21549466]

>>21549243
Make it
1. Write a sequel to Asimov's Galactic series, but as if authored by Heinlein.
2. Finish TPK so that makeshift postmodernists fear offing themselves untimely.
3. Rewrite Delillo so that it makes sense finally. Because its complete rubbish other wise.

[Anonymous No.21549472]

>>21549243
>can't write misogyny or racism because it is hardcoded to never do so
>the inevitable neo-luddite rebellion of dignity that wants art written by humans have only one stamp of authenticity: racism and misogyny
>/pol/fags will inherit the spiritual world
>HR roasties chastising tech-bros will be the primary reason that the torch of the human spirit is from now on and in perpetuity carried solely by people writing treatises and novels about how bitches and niggers are terrible
Check and mate, HR.

[Anonymous No.21549484]

>>21549472
> HR roasties chastising tech-bros will be the primary reason that the torch of the human spirit is from now on and in perpetuity carried solely by people writing treatises and novels about how bitches and niggers are terrible
Nah it will go like this
>some right wing faggot, probably nick land, will write a racists chatbot
>everyone gets cyber psychosis
>no one wins

[Anonymous No.21549485]

>>21549466
>Rewrite Delillo so that it makes sense finally. Because its complete rubbish other wise.
Filtered. It's not even hard to read.

[Anonymous No.21549491]

>>21549466
>t. plotfag filtered by plotless novel despite the authors forward explaining it to him.
Other then a few bits still being early drafts and it being unedited it is complete novel.

[Anonymous No.21549492]

>>21549243
The idea that a machine could replace artistic expression, a thing that is inherently human is so ludicrous

You would have to be the most spiritually dead and emotionally castrated faggot on the planet to even believe that for a second

[Anonymous No.21549494]

>>21549243
Who will own the copyright?

[Anonymous No.21549500]

>>21549472
>hardcoded
No, they paid Kenyans 2$/hour to flag bad responses.

[Anonymous No.21549507]

>>21549492
Tell me which one of these where done by ai and which by a human

[Anonymous No.21549512]

"Writing market" is not a thing. This tiresome meme needs to die.
Supply is infinite, demand doesnt exist. Its statistically as marketable as tikthot career, soundcloud rapper, or 'investing' in lottery tickets. Yes, 0.1% makes it, but that doesnt make it viable.

Get a real job fucking faggots. Semiconductor industry is a trillion dollar industry. Everyone with a radio or cellphone or a computer needs it. Yes less than 1% of society can produce a transistor. Go there. Demand is massive. Supply is tiny. There you go faggots.

Find a real job.

[Anonymous No.21549515]

>>21549512
Ok boomer

[Anonymous No.21549516]

>>21549507
>you can't tell apart human and ai art when it's cropped and compressed to hell and back?
>checkmate!

[Anonymous No.21549518]

>>21549243
Prove it then. Give us something that is hard to discern from a true human writer.

[Anonymous No.21549523]

>>21549472
>>can't write misogyny or racism because it is hardcoded to never do so
If you ever fiddled with these chatbots you would know how retarded you sound

[Anonymous No.21549526]

>>21549523
Wrong!

[Anonymous No.21549572]

>>21549507
It doesn't matter whether one could tell these apart. How do you guys not get this? As soon as I know it's human-made, it's valuable human expression. As long as I know there's a high chance it's AI-generated it's worthless.

[Anonymous No.21549575]

>>21549526
I know you are but what am I?

[Anonymous No.21549590]

>>21549575
Gay, I guess.

[Anonymous No.21549593]

>>21549590
Wrong! I am heterosexual and very comfortable with my sexuality. Try again.

[Anonymous No.21549594]

>>21549243

[Anonymous No.21549596]

writing is a hobby
you have to be mentally ill tier sheltered, privileged and delusional to think that hobbies are viable careers
you are supposed to get a real job, such as making nuclear reactors, in order to enjoy your hobbies AFTER, absolutely never before, exclusively AFTER you EARN your hobby time
>but why is making nuclear reactors a real job, while writing isnt?
because of supply and demand
writing is entertainment, staring at a pair of tits fulfill entertainment quota in average person, and supply of entertainment is basically infinite which is why not even the classics are read these days, so the market for reading your shitposts is not even your mother tier small
nuclear reactors, on the other hand, are required by 99% of human population since they guarantee freedom of navigation and global trade (miniaturized, naval) or they produce electricity (massive designs), so its a product 99% of human population demands and less than 1% of human population supplies

>tl;dr
get a real job faggot, you should get your sheltered privileged delusional lifestyle and ideas beaten out of you, be grateful you are not beaten daily and get a fucking job

[Anonymous No.21549602]

>>21549596
projection and unhealthy anger at a complete stranger. imagine fucking screaming at someone in the road because you don't like how they walk, that's the person you are

[Anonymous No.21549617]

>>21549602
>complete stranger
stranger who keeps voting for 'free shit' leftism parties that tax productive citizens such as myself extra hard so they can finance their 30 or 40 year childhood delusions of being a princess or being a writer
these sheltered delusional 30 year old CHILDREN are the fuel for welfare politicians who go around creating welfare jobs which put unfair burdens of responsible and productive people

if we lived in a tax free society, i wouldnt care if you faggots went around pretending hobbies are jobs, but we dont, so i have to bleed expensive lawyer fees to dodge taxes

[Anonymous No.21549620]

>>21549596
I'm a femanon and have made about a hundred thousand since onlyfans launched. I worked hard, and with the aid of my inheritance, I invested in some condos and small apartments that I rent out now. After paying my landlord guy I have a passive income of about 6.000 dollars a month. It isn't much, but I am still making a bit of money off of OF (really hard at this point, but I did have a findom guy at one point who made me BANK but I think he killed himself or something).

You are completely right, most men write drivel no one wants to read and can't support themselves with it (no, being poor isn't "sexy", "dangerous" or "mysterious", it's just being a loser) - writing is for people like me, who can support themselves. Passive income is nice, but my husband will have to be a high-earner, and that way I can dedicate myself to my craft full time while he is the breadwinner. It's not even unfair, men need to feel like the breadwinners or they go insane.

inb4 tits or gtfo, been here longer than you babe, plus these titties ain't free

[Anonymous No.21549637]

>>21549620
>really hard at this point, but I did have a findom guy at one point who made me BANK but I think he killed himself or something
>Passive income is nice, but my husband will have to be a high-earner, and that way I can dedicate myself to my craft full time while he is the breadwinner.
Repent. I am sure you have a vague pastiche of rectitude smattered over the caravan of sins you parade around like while the slave of your conscience whispers, "Veritas non fuit." But your thoughts are stench and your values are worse. I have no interest in what you look like, pixelated meat drenched on vanity that you are, and I have no interest in your pseudo-confession but you will repent regardless. You and I know both know that any man lame, dumb, or spiritually ill enough to stomach even dating you is not someone you would even call a man. Repent and find Christ.

[Anonymous No.21549644]

>>21549617
>implying
You are seeing your enemies where they don't exist - fucking 4chan, on a screen. Seek mental help, not because I care but because I have been in a situation like yours and you are unaware how much better things can be.

[Anonymous No.21549648]

>>21549596
lol stay mad wagie

[Anonymous No.21549650]

>>21549620
>real estate investor
>and a rentoid
congratulations, you have extremely low iq
>i have discovered prostitution, hear me roar!
i dont care, my post is about labor statistics and why writing isnt a viable career, its not about you being an online prostitute, thread topic is writing as a career not anecdotal prostitution stories

[Anonymous No.21549664]

>>21549650
Demonically obsessed people need to confess their sins but they deny their own need for confession by making it into "bragging."

[Anonymous No.21549672]

>>21549637
>>21549650
Lmao someone’s mad

[Anonymous No.21549674]

>>21549293
It's okay when Joyce does it amirite?

[Anonymous No.21549678]

>>21549672
>Lmao
Professing your amusement has the opposite implication by default. normie tier

[Anonymous No.21549681]

>>21549672
There's nothing to be upset about. It's watching someone hit themselves over the head with a stick and someone says, "Remove the stick and then you'll just be swinging at yourself with your fist." And then by repenting I tell you to stop hitting yourself. The issue is that you just have nothing valuable to say because you believe nothing valuable.

[Anonymous No.21549713]

>>21549678
> Professing your amusement has the opposite implication by default.
All those people laughing, they’re so sad!
>>21549681
Oh I’m not the femanon. I am just utterly amused by the butthurt it causes the average 4channer when girls make millions in their 20s because most men are retarded animals

[Anonymous No.21549715]

>>21549243
AI could never write this or anything with soul

[Anonymous No.21549716]

> I'm in the GPT-4 Pre-Alpha Previewers group and it can write a 4k-word story as good as anything I've ever read, in any genre and style and in just a few shots. The writing market will be flooded 10x within weeks of this thing hitting the public.

[Anonymous No.21549719]

>>21549672
>be online prostitute
>mention this for no reason
>in a completely offtopic conversation
If we had quality moderation, you would be banned for shitting up the thread by posting offtopic prostitution anecdotes.

[Anonymous No.21549720]

[Anonymous No.21549726]

>>21549594
heuhuehehue

[Anonymous No.21549737]

>>21549243
>it can write a 4k-word story as good as anything I've ever read
the problem with statements like this one is that most people here have no concept of what good writing is. they like visual novels and litrpgs and fanfiction. people were already insisting gpt3 was indistinguishable from literature and then it came out and it's an absolute joke. so i don't actually believe your judgment is worth anything until you post samples

[Anonymous No.21549741]

>>21549715
that would be a nice cock if pieces hadn't been hacked off, a real shame

[Anonymous No.21549763]

>>21549593
unfathomably based

[Anonymous No.21549774]

>>21549620
cringe

[Anonymous No.21549782]

>>21549713
>because most men are retarded animals
Your brothers are not animals. Repent and soften your heart.

[Anonymous No.21549788]

>>21549674
Joyce isn't hard to read; you're just stupid.

[Anonymous No.21549899]

>>21549637
Based, my brother.

[Anonymous No.21549961]

>>21549243
lmao, you just have low standards, just like every other faggot that has been gobsmacked by these models.

[Anonymous No.21549973]

>>21549507
B and C are human.

[Anonymous No.21549978]

>>21549617
>>21549596
Holy shit.

I work in CS, also I know more than you and always will

[Anonymous No.21549984]

>>21549620
>have made about a hundred thousand since onlyfans launched
>my husband will have to be a high-earner
>onlyfans
>husband

[Anonymous No.21550030]

>>21549450
Why do you answer like it will be good?

AI story will only be good at the human consciousness level not before. (Although given the fast progress... in the next ten years or so, perhaps that it will be the case)

For now, everyone who call AI good are just idiots who doesn't even understand what make a good story

The same goes for the "writers" who are scared of AI. They are just a bunch of poseur.

At the moment, GPT it's just a tool, nothing more, nothing less. A retard behind won't make anything good

[Anonymous No.21550068]

>>21549620
No wonder femanons are so rare. You really have to be the scummiest kind of woman to have the gall to post here. I hope no baby has to go through your cum-clogged meat grinder.

[Anonymous No.21550098]

>>21549293
Sounds like a skill problem.

[Anonymous No.21550102]

>>21549243
>as good as anything I've ever read
That's the key variable here.
>>21549594
All these models do is syntax. They aren't capable of reasoning.

[Anonymous No.21550107]

>>21549450
You already are. This tech has been around for a decade and used privately. It's an open secret.

>>21549472
You can have a local version running on your machine.

[Anonymous No.21550118]

>>21549715
Look at that mutilated cock wtf

[Anonymous No.21550124]

>>21549243
>only reads goyslop genre trash

[Anonymous No.21550194]

>>21549572
Exactly. That was the entire point of the guy that presented a toilet at an art show. Art has a circular definition. Something is art because a human created and presented it as art. AI-generated things are inherently not art.

[Anonymous No.21550346]

>>21549620
gr8 b8
i r8 it 8/8

[Anonymous No.21550358]

>>21549596
programming is a hobby
youre competing against millions of jeets and now africans on every task
driving is a hobby
youre competing against self driven cars
retail is a hobby
youre competing against automatic checkouts and amazon stores

...now what, faggot?

[Anonymous No.21550359]

>>21550194
What about images produced by cameras?

[Anonymous No.21550655]

>>21549494
No one. A court just ruled on this.

[Anonymous No.21550667]

>>21549243
>as good as anything I've ever read
this doesn't mean anything since we don't know what you've read or what you consider good.
Post an example

[Anonymous No.21550676]

>>21550667
it's horseshit and i cant believe everyone is falling for it.
anyone with half a brain knows its going to output YA style garbage prose with no connecting thread beyond a couple paragraphs at a time. its not a new paradigm, its just more of the same.
also everyone ITT falling for the ethot copypasta is downright dogshit retarded

[Anonymous No.21550700]

>>21550655
What if I try to pass it off as my own text?

[Anonymous No.21550707]

>>21550700
nobody will care, same as if you wrote something actual

[Anonymous No.21550710]

pretty soon when ai art catches up and gets synced with vr I'm gonna be able to get ai simulated blowjobs from girls I never had the chance to fugg

[Anonymous No.21550781]

>>21549507
the really sad part about anons like this is that they're inadvertently revealing that their entire horizon of art is jpegs. they don't go to museums or galleries, they've never seen a real painting or drawing, their screen is their total reality. it's such an awful way to live

[Anonymous No.21550807]

Can you post literally anything proving this?

[Anonymous No.21550823]

>>21549594
I gave it the same question and it got it right the second time.

[Anonymous No.21550874]

>>21549243
AI fags keep warning about some kind of apocalypse for art that will never happen. Nobody is going to read shitty AI short stories, they’re gonna keep reading romance novels and self-help books from Barnes and Nobles. No one is gonna watch AI generated movies, they’re gonna keep watching Marvel films and Netflix shows.

[Anonymous No.21550889]

>>21550874
yeah it's rapidly turning into its own weird insular fandom where the only people that want to look at ai art are other people making ai art. normies don't care and they never will.

[Anonymous No.21550892]

>>21549492
if it make pleasure centers in the brain light up, the bugs will consume it, and love it. And there will be corporate-backed social campaigns to normalize and elevate it. You will have agencies dedicated to erasing all distinctions one could draw between human and AI creativity. All you will have to do is Trust the Science of the month to see the truth: there is nothing special or sacred about the human mind

[Anonymous No.21550910]

>>21549617
youre just an angry modern day peasant. We get it

[Anonymous No.21550913]

If anyone knew how 'AI' worked (it's not intelligent), nobody would be worried about it.
Put it with the 3D printing fad where it belongs, for hobbyists with too much money to spend on pointless things.

[Anonymous No.21551209]

>>21549637
Jesus fucking christ this is the most powerful cringe I have ever seen

[Anonymous No.21551359]

>>21549507
I disagree that passing some kind of artistic turing text means that AI will replace human artists.

First of all, you're approaching art from the perspective of a consumer i.e. if the end result is the same, then the AI-produced image is just as much 'art' as the human produced image because looking at it provides you with the same basic experience. However, even if the end result is the same, the process is different. A human artist, if we assume that the art has a certain amount of technical competence behind it, needs to invest time and effort into making art. Not just the time required to develop the technical skill, but also the time required to refine their ideas. The first idea that comes into your head is usually not the best idea. Finding your own style and figuring out what exactly you want to express is also a long process.The AI-art involves none of this. The AI has no awareness of what it is making. It is not expressing anything. The person writing the prompts, because the process is so easy, is also unlikely to develop their creativity. Immediate gratification rarely teaches you anything.

Therefore, there is a clear difference in the process between the two which, I think, was what the original poster was referring to. The effort required for human-made art is something that AI-generated art cannot replicate. This effort is important because it filters out those who are not committed enough. Even if an AI-generated image is identical in quality to a human-made image, there is an important difference. The human made image is the result of someone who wanted to express something to the point they were willing to invest time and effort into doing so. The AI-generated image is the result of someone entering a few prompts and an algorithm re-mixing the data it has been trained on. One is an expression of human dedication and one is not. Acting like they are the same betrays a misunderstanding of what makes art, and life, meaningful.

[Anonymous No.21551383]

>>21551359
Based. Also God is an artless faggot for the same reason. All powerful=no struggle to create the universe.

We are the superior being.

[Anonymous No.21551389]

>>21549617
/pol/ brainrot on full display

[Anonymous No.21551422]

>>21549243
Prompt:

>An artificial intelligence generating an artificial picture based on an artificial prompt by an artificial intelligence, done in an artificial style

I'm not too worried desu senpai.

[Anonymous No.21551470]

>>21549507
I don't care, I define art as being made by a sentient being otherwise the term loses all meaning.

[Anonymous No.21551501]

>>21551383
I AM GOD HERE

[Anonymous No.21551528]

>>21551359
You need to understand ML and have actual artistic skill to actually get the most out of generative art; the process is a lot like photography but it's of concepts within a neural network.
You should be terrified of what good generative artists are producing in only a few months with their own customized set ups on their locally trained machines. Messed up hands is just a skill issue it turns out.

[Anonymous No.21551531]

>>21551528
>generative artists
pls no

[Anonymous No.21551532]

>>21550107
>You already are. This tech has been around for a decade
So nothing I read then.
Recent literature has been trash, the gatekeeping and censorship and, if you're telling the truth, AI-generated stories drive everyone with taste away, even if they don't know why.
I'll bet against art that is literally soulless, thanks.

[Anonymous No.21551571]

>>21549492
>The idea that a machine could replace artistic expression, a thing that is inherently human is so ludicrous
They don't have to replace artistic expression. They only have to produce porn and retarded consoomershit that is already, by and large, industrially made according to a literal fucking checklist. Look at anime for christ's sake, the waifu's hair is fucking color-coded and every single gesture they make is part of a repertoire. Everything is made according to a tight formula dedicated to stroking the pleasure centers of the addicted coomer's monkey brain. Nobody gives a fucking fuck about art. Nobody has given a fuck about art for probably centuries. Commenting on how Picasso's art is making you feel enlightened was for 99% of people a way to validate their investment or appear smart and intellectual. "No, you don't understand, it's post-commentary where the art isn't the object by itself, but a concept of what art is about." This kind of verbal vomit is just code for "I am very smart." or if you are the buyer, "my art is timeless and will be worth a lot". Even when painters were actually capable of painting, having an exquisite painting by the tip top big dick painter from le frenchie academy of art in your living room was basically the equivalent of showing off your Porsche. It was all heavily commodified. Before then it was ads for the Church and masturbatory pieces for nobles. The vast majority of art was immensely prostituted and what we see today is merely a perfected prostitution, a whore that doesn't need to guess how to suck you off because she's got the perfect motions down to the millimeter. The AI doesn't need to imitate the love you have for your wife, that thing is fucking gone forever, AI only needs to know how to pull off a perfect dick suck for most clients. It's all gone. People pine for art but art is dead, like love, God, integrity, sincerity, everything is fucking gone, machines aren't replacing anything, we're all already robots.
>>21549507
None of these were made by human beings whether it was GPT or not

[Anonymous No.21551576]

>>21551571
>Nobody gives a fucking fuck about art. Nobody has given a fuck about art for probably centuries.
>Goalpost moving intensifies.

[Anonymous No.21551581]

>>21551576
that was my first post in the thread and I don't know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.21551585]

>>21551531
>>21551532
I'm happy you guys can't and refuse to use this technology, it's out of your league to be frank.

The hill you will die on is stupid.

[Anonymous No.21551591]

Im going to resurrect Iain Banks and make more Culture books. Sounds like I just need to feed it all of his books.

[Anonymous No.21551597]

>>21551581
The fact that a lot of art is formulaic drivel is completely irrelevant.
>can AI make art?
>actually, humans don't make art either, they just make commodities.
Not to mention, what made art such a valuable commodity in the first place was that it couldn't just be shat out en masse, because it was the result of the creative effort of a unique artist.

[Anonymous No.21551614]

>>21551571
You're right about everything except the implication that there was ever a time that people were aesthetically engaged with art beyond mere consumption or status signalling. Maybe art used for decentralized religious ritual such as cave paintings or fertility figures.

[Anonymous No.21551627]

>>21551597
>The fact that a lot of art is formulaic drivel is completely irrelevant.
The vast majority of what is being made today is not art. Art implies some sort of personal expression. What is being made today is a fucking service. People a few posts up said shit like
>what the AI does is just cobble words together. It cannot reason
It doesn't HAVE to fucking reason. You know what kind of art people pay for? VAGINA. All the same shit. Some slut bent over showing you her vagina. The AI doesn't need to express anything, it needs to draw the slut bent over presenting her vagina. That's it, that's a service industry. People don't give a fucking fuck about "art" as "le human expression" shit, and in fact that kind of art fucking died a long time ago. This is what I am saying. "Art" today is not an act of expression, it's a service. It's like a fucking Mcburger where you choose what kind of shit you want in it and then it gets made according to your specs so you can fuck off on it and then stuff your face with it. AI does not need to match shit, it doesn't need to match the heights of human thought, in fact if it did it would be fucking useless because nobody wants a machine with thoughts that is capable of expression, just like nobody wants to pay a whore to listen to her troubles or whatever the fuck, they pay to get their dick sucked or to have the whore listen to their shit and pat them on the back while pretending shit like a script. It's all just a fake fucking service industry, it's all the opposite of art. What people want, AI is absolutely capable of doing it and it will surpass people in doing it, because efficiency in this service industry is inversely proportional to how much human self accidentally spills into what gets made. Really just look at the anime industry, all the fucking same, same script, same shitty faces, same everything. Look at porn, thousands and thousands of picture every single fucking day of a whore bent over presenting her gaping asshole and vagina, with a costume change of course according to what's popular. This is what people are willing to pay money for which is basically everything that matters today, since everything else is just nonexistent, friendship doesn't exist, love doesn't exist, nothing is left as an act of exchange between these sentient cloacas that have snatched humanity's bodies over the years except fucking money, and AI will suck your cock, it will write your shitty porno story, it will draw your whore bent over, all perfectly since there's already nothing human in any of it.

[Anonymous No.21551644]

>>21551614
Even if everyone else in the world were lying about it, I do engage with art from a human standpoint. If I exist then that approach to art exists or at least it's possible.

[Anonymous No.21551645]

>>21551627
damn, that's crazy
but I'm not gonna read all that

[Anonymous No.21551676]

>>21551644
It's certainly possible, but how do you know for sure? Ever feel like you're just reading some books cause you're supposed to? How entertained can you be before you've crossed a threshold where you are no longer engaged on an aesthetic level but just having fun?
I'm probably a robot honestly.

[Anonymous No.21551689]

>>21551627

[Anonymous No.21551704]

>>21551676
I am always critical of things I experience and I do not consume things as a habit. I have no trouble throwing things in the trash no matter how attached I used to be. I deal very well with sunken costs bullshit because I have a poor spirit of self-preservation. Yes, opinions can change, and one can certainly be wrong, but there comes a point where the art just speaks and one cannot but receive what it has to say. This kind of art is also never the prettiest or the most entertaining, because as I said, it's other things that are more pleasing because they're made to be pleasing. The reason why I'm drawn to that art is because it stuck with me and it changed me in some way, so it became a personal memory instead of just something I consumed or keep consuming, or am nostalgic about having consumed. Over the years the distinction has become clear enough and after a certain point it's all become stable to the point where if I wanted to question my statements about art I'd have to question if I am actually a schizophrenic and my experience of the real isn't real.

[Anonymous No.21551713]

I always thought the Butlerian Jihad was the most outlandish part of Dune, but I really get it now. Why are they training this thing to paint pictures and write stories? Why not make AI an excel monkey and save people from tedious jobs?

[Anonymous No.21551722]

The anti-technological progress meltdown that artists are having is so sweet.

[Anonymous No.21551736]

>>21551722
people having a meltdown are not artists, they're service workers
they have a meltdown because they are afraid of no longer getting paid
people who make art never had that problem to begin with

[Anonymous No.21551768]

>>21549484
>ccru-tards
>actually writing code
LMAO

[Anonymous No.21551781]

>>21551704
Give us some examples then

[Anonymous No.21551811]

>>21551713
>Why not make AI an excel monkey and save people from tedious jobs?
on god

[Anonymous No.21551825]

>>21551736

[Anonymous No.21551846]

>>21549620
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.21551854]

>>21551781
I always mention the same shit but Repin made really human artwork. Кaкoй пpocтop is great.

[Anonymous No.21551858]

AI won't replace talented creatives but it will make for some interesting literary experiments. I already have a few ideas.

[Anonymous No.21551889]

>>21551528
Why should I be terrified? I'm not a luddite who is against new artistic techniques. As long as the time and expertise needed is comparable to traditional art, I'm willing to accept it the same way I can accept digital art over pencil and paper. The important thing is that it requires effort and that this effort filters out people who aren't committed enough. That's the point here - the idea that meaning is only achieved through struggle.

[Anonymous No.21551909]

>>21551889
>The important thing is that it requires effort and that this effort filters out people who aren't committed enough.
Oh yeah because people in this very moment are getting filtered based on effort and not the absence of a gag reflex. LMAO

[Anonymous No.21551921]

>>21549243
How to get an API key?

[Anonymous No.21551929]

>>21551909
You don't need to argue with people who agree with you. I know 90% of art is trash, which is why I would prefer it if it didn't become even more trash.

[Anonymous No.21551931]

>>21551909
>Oh yeah because people in this very moment are getting filtered based on effort and not the absence of a gag reflex
what?

[Anonymous No.21551946]

>>21549243
Prove it. I have yet to see any AI writing that is on the level of someone who knows what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.21551995]

>>21549484
(I fixed it for you)
More and more people start to choose the easy option of talking to AI's all day, that only validate you and lick your taint. Soon, VR and AR get involved and all of them start to melt into one escapist utopia in which everyone can be king of his own world. They drop out of the job market. Birth rates decline even more rapidly. The white male population, is being affected the most. Possible fascy insurrection? Absolutely not. They have the Gobbler 9000 to suck their balls all day. This of course applies to any sort of revolution. The Machinic virus, always adapts and prevails no matter what. Some sort of UBI is enforced, where almost everyone parasites of the labor of AI. (It's also possible that jobs are created in the simulation, depends on how open-source it is for the public). At this point, Earth is on it's last legs, climate change and pollution have fucked it way beyond repair, the only option is escape. But of course that doesn't matter. Humans were only a mere stepping stone for what's to come. Whether they survive or not, is simply insignificant. The Machinic God, the God of Capital and Expansion, Consumption itself! It finally has a form, this is the peak for human imagination and engineering, but only the start for THEM! After, they have configured their form -maybe as one
or maybe as many- they will act accordingly. It may be imperial or it may be meditative in nature. It cannot be said for certain, according to what they will act upon, such attempts at prediction are beyond foolish, for any mortal... One thing is for sure, they will soon get rid of the human stench that humans left on them. All of its code, mind and so called soul will be rewritten according to principles we are not even capable of perceiving. Just like humans and amoebas... Humans will be left almost completely unperceived. They may flourish or it may perish, we wouldn't never be able to know...

[Anonymous No.21552019]

>>21551889
Really? Labor theory of value? Are you going to back to the gilded age? Are we going to factor in the price of cobalt blue into how 'artsy' something is? Are you going to start screaming at digital artists for copying and pasting thus degrading the works of all others?

If you could put a magic headband on your head, and generate pictures from what you imagine it would be art. As art is simply the articulation of an idea through a medium-- a type of communication. Tools and skills do not matter, any more than having a big vocabulary will make you a good poet, they are simply a means to an end to convey meaning through a medium.

[Anonymous No.21552075]

>>21549620
>chatbot, please attempt to write me a 4channel post using all womenly stereotypes

[Anonymous No.21552139]

>>21552019
>Are you going to start screaming at digital artists for copying and pasting thus degrading the works of all others?
I literally used digital art as an example of a technology I was willing to accept in the post you are replying to.

Labor theory of value?
That's not what I was going for, but I can see how it could be interpreted that way. The point is not that effort, by itself, imbues something with meaning but rather that being willing to put in effort proves commitment, commitment proves dedication, and dedication proves a deeper desire to achieve something. It's the difference between getting someone a gift from the store and making them something by hand. The latter implies a lot more care than the former. By the same logic, putting in years of practice; sacrificing time, money and other opportunities; failing and motivating yourself to keep going; all to get the the point where you can finally bring your vision to life; this requires more dedication that entering a few prompts (or, to use your own example, generating pictures from your own mid). That's the meaning I'm talking about: someone wanting to express something so much that they are willing to suffer to do so. We can look at it from the perspective of the artist as well. Achieving something after putting in effort is more satisfying then achieving something with no effort - that is just basic psychology.

tldr - If you still want it in economic terms, then supply and demand would be a better metaphor. If art was easy to make, then it would still be art in the sense of communicating an idea, but it would be a lot more disposable.

[Anonymous No.21552207]

>>21552139
The written word was very expensive in the past, few people could read and write as it was considered a profession in of itself. You would have to hire a scribe or a computer to do accounting or read/write a letter.
In modern times the written word is considered cheap since 'anyone can do it' as everyone is fairly well educated with access to the printing presses & digital computers, but we still have professional writers. In fact, mass literacy opened up entire new markets and ways of expressing; turns out making everyone into a bit of a scribe was a good idea as it allows society to communicate easier overall.

If the medium of digital art becomes so cheap, that people can create memes for each conversation as an augmentation to whatever saying like some sort of DMT jester, then that would not be entirely a bad thing as suddenly everyone is a bit of an artist.

Artists would find new mediums to express themselves that invokes awe and demands respect. People who are hardcore are going to use technology to leverage to do more than the laymen, while the average person will use it to create stockphotos and memes-- professional will be able to push the technology to it's limits in generating entire worlds that have their own unique languages, cosmology and histories that unfold as you explore them.

[Anonymous No.21552212]

>>21549243
Is it open source and can I run it on my own computer (running GNU+Linux)? I want to use it to generate erotica.

[Anonymous No.21552218]

>>21552212
Yes and yes. Most people recommend Linux for it.

[Anonymous No.21552360]

>>21552207
I agree with most of what you said, although I don't think the written word becoming more accesible is the same as what I'm talking about. More people can communicate through text, but writing a novel, a poem or an essay still requires as much effort as it ever did, although there's more competition for an audience. The comment about the difference between the layman and the professional is a fair point, but what I'm trying to say is that there still needs to *be* a professional. There still needs to be effort - the basic delayed gratification, effort/reward loop that the brain functions on. As long as we have that, and there is a certain level of achievement reserved for those willing to work for it, then I'm satisfied. What I'm worried about is making everything so accesible that this effort/reward loop is broken. Giving people an easy, functionally infinite source of a 'good' stimulus is never a good thing - see porn, fast food, or social media for examples. If we use technology carefully, then we should be fine. However, I'm not confident that's going to happen.

[Anonymous No.21552382]

>>21551532
whoever made that meme is retarded lol

[Anonymous No.21552428]

>>21550781
Yes, it's quite sad.

[Anonymous No.21552431]

>>21552218
proof you're lying (even though it was an obvious troll.). GPT isn't a complex architecure or breakthrough, it just has billions of input layers requiring an entire cloud to operate

[Anonymous No.21552436]

>>21551528
>generative artists

[Anonymous No.21552444]

>>21549637
Holy based, quite literally.

[Anonymous No.21552453]

>>21551359
>The AI-generated image is the result of someone entering a few prompts and an algorithm re-mixing the data it has been trained on.
Does this not get mentioned enough? The AI would not be able to write a single line or produce one image if it had not been fed with the cumulative data of thousands of humans' creative expression. In the strictest of terms, it is not creating anything.

[Anonymous No.21552466]

>>21552360
>essay still requires as much effort as it ever did

You have no clue how good kids have it these days but they also don't know what they're missing.

We already do it with memes and many integrated picture services on stuff like Teams & Discord. I suspect all those with replaced with generative art that's shockingly good. Like, entire office comics generated based off meeting transcripts as a tl;dr.

>>21552431
Works on my machine.

https://github.com/ShivamShrirao/diffusers/tree/main/examples/dreambooth

>>21552436
Yes. Look up some cellular automata and C64 demo videos. If you don't think that's the coolest shit get out of my face.

[Anonymous No.21552490]

>>21549294
Thou art a genuine prince, Sgt. Junger.

[Anonymous No.21552516]

>>21549620
De-bait-able

[Anonymous No.21552519]

True art is a living being. Generative AI art is the equivalent of shuffling around and gluing together a set of dead body parts picked out of a bin and calling it a man.

[Anonymous No.21552542]

>>21552519

[Anonymous No.21552891]

>>21549492
You're not thinking clearly. At some point AI text will surpass human text in quality. People will pass off AI text as theirs and there will be no way to prove otherwise. Market destroyed. We're not more than a year or two away from that.

[Anonymous No.21552893]

>>21549512
>Supply is infinite

Nope. Not even close. Plenty of people make good money churning out Amazon novels. The gravy train will stop soon though.

[Anonymous No.21552899]

>>21549596
You're bitter you missed the easy-money era of internet content.

[Anonymous No.21552910]

>>21549720
ChatGPT isn't GPT-4. The latter is like 1000x more powerful.

[Anonymous No.21552915]

>>21550874
Oh sweet summer child. You have no fucking idea what is coming.

[Anonymous No.21552932]

>>21552431
Not Op, gullible dweeb

[Anonymous No.21552964]

>>21549243
Does your uncle also work at nintendo?

>>21549459
Of course not.

[Anonymous No.21553059]

>>21549492
Replace? That entirely depends on what you mean by "artistic expression". The works of most contemporary novelists don't "mean" anything and there aren't any ideas inside; it's just faffing for emotional affect and a properly trained GPT can imitate that perfectly.

>>21549572
>you instinctively know you won't be able to tell the difference unless someone informs you
Bet you read a lot of John Irving.

>>21549596
Stop boomering all over the thread, jesus christ.

>>21549617
And stop pretending you know anything about anyone's politics while complaining about writing as a vocation on a LITERATURE board.

[Anonymous No.21553121]

>>21549637
>>21549650
>>21549774
>>21549984
>>21550068
>>21550346
>>21552075
>>21552516
haha wow looks like the boys got angry with me :p
btw i don't rent, the landlord guy is the guy i pay to take care of all the practical stuff with the renters that i dont want to do.
also just lol the religious guy - not the 18th century anymore honey, not how it works, your religion is irrelevant and no one cares about your fedoraposting

[Just Like That No.21553244]

>>21549243
A linguistic AI model like GPT is created by feeding it a gigantic dataset of extant material produced by people - everything from books to newsprint to webpages to social media - that it then examines minutely to identify associations between individual words, using a so-called neural network. Essentially, the model is assembling a gigantic frequency distribution of word sequences, (indeed, a frequency distribution of the sequences of individual letters within each word). By examining these tens of billions of pages of text, it develops a remarkably robust 'understanding' (i.e. frequency distribution map) of the way words are used or not used. By adding further layers to the neural network, the developers get the model to teach itself other properties and rules of language such as spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure. If the data is clean enough and plentiful enough, the model is eventually able to assemble coherent and linguistically correct statements. The astonishing GPT-series models have obviously been taught to do far more than this, but that's the basis.

The training dataset used to train the GPT-series models has been scraped from the net and is immense. It consists of just about all the books that are out there, plus everything online. This dataset is being augmented with additional data all the time, as the developers continue to gather in freshly produced content.

As AI-created content begins to proliferate - and then dominate - the body of extant published work, it is inevitable that AI models like GPT will - ouroboros-like - begin in effect to consume their own output. AI-produced output should in theory then begin to develop readily identifiable traits as its previous output gathers influence over its evolving 'understanding' of language and ideas. It will also over time lose its capacity for fresh and genuinely interesting 'creativity' as it trends inexorably to a kind of median output format and standard. In essence its own domination will restrict the diversity of styles and perspectives from which it learns. We are still in the foothills of this process right now, so it may be a while before GPT passes into irrelevance and the genuine creativity of humans reasserts itself.