/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21541240]

Survival of the Fittest Edition

Previous Thread:>>21532920

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Goodreads
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[Anonymous No.21541274]

Dunsany, Vance, Peake. The Trinity of the General.

[Anonymous No.21541276]

>>21541240
he ain't surviving SHIT with that tiny knife

[Anonymous No.21541294]

[Anonymous No.21541319]

>>21541294
I despise contemporary cover design so much. They are designed from the ground up to be dispiriting to human beings.

[Anonymous No.21541323]

books with 1000+ pages do not belong in the year 2023, those were for people who did not have radios, televisions and computers.

[Anonymous No.21541360]

Finally finished Dandelion Dynasty
>Grace of Kings
great book, a creative retelling of the Chu-Han contention and the bamboo silk engineering stuff is almost plausible
the fact that the gods intervene minimally just to nudge things along was a nice touch
could function as a standalone
>Wall of Storms
didn't like it too much mostly because Jia is a crazy bitch
>Veiled Throne
didn't like it too much either since they were somehow surprised that the guy who betrayed them countless times before would do it again and the cooking competition seemed to take up way too much time
explanations of things got really bloated too
>Speaking Bones
I think it was pretty good and a decent ending but it still had issues with a bit too much bloat

overall, fairly decent

[Anonymous No.21541386]

>>21541274
I like Dunsany and Peaks since I was impressed by what I have read of both. I’ll get onto Vance.

[Anonymous No.21541420]

>>21541323
explain

[Anonymous No.21541434]

>>21541360
>edgy black covers for boys
>pink covers with flowers for girls
holy fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.21541451]

>>21541420
books with 1000+ pages do not belong in the year 2023, those were for people who did not have radios, televisions and computers.

[Anonymous No.21541454]

Did he defeat Heavenly Court in the end?

[Anonymous No.21541455]

>>21541420
No attention span, brains overstimulated by dopamine

[Anonymous No.21541456]

It is amazing how skilled are some people when it comes to write nothing while actually filling two pages with word salad.
Don't get me wrong, still an enjoyable read but many pages could've been reduced to a sentence or two at most.

[Anonymous No.21541600]

Read The Wandering Inn, Read Mother of Learning, Read I Shall Seal the Heavens.

Also read The Prince of Nothing, Neuromancer, Cradle, A Song of Ice and Fire, Hyperion, Between Two Fires, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.21541618]

>>21541600
adderall pilled

[Anonymous No.21541635]

>>21541451
>>21541455
Boomer take. All the people reading this shit are phone kids. Bloated, repetitive prose makes the story easier to go back to, and they get dopamine hits from character progression. Maybe some parasocial vibes if the author is really on their game.

[Anonymous No.21541657]

>>21541456
Example?

[Anonymous No.21541688]

The truncated language, as well as the seemingly useless swearing, gets annoying after a while, but I enjoy the developments and the 'setting' if we can call it that.

[Anonymous No.21541766]

>>21541294
I hate looking at these lists
some title always grabs my eyes and then I read it and BOOM, female protagonists

[Anonymous No.21541832]

>>21541600
Read them all. Now what?

[Anonymous No.21541855]

>>21541766
You are weirder than the Radix guy.

[Anonymous No.21541858]

>>21541455
The best SF and fantasy novels were written before the 80s, all of them much shorter and often standalone releases instead of being part of an artificial trilogy. The fact that LOTR had to be split into three books coupled with its later success became an unfortunate precedent. Even SF isn't safe from this retarded practice anymore. Want to read some 200 page story with a cool idea or two? Sorry, ten part series with each entry adding 150 pages to the last starting from 732 pages.

[Anonymous No.21541904]

>>21541855
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.21542001]

>>21541294
>camp zero
NOOOO
THEY GOT MY NIGGA BOBBY
THEY TURNED THE COUNT ZESTY
cyberbros.... is it over...?

[Anonymous No.21542020]

>>21541294
>the thick and the a novel lean
what?

[Anonymous No.21542040]

>>21542020
esl thoughts

[Anonymous No.21542095]

>>21541294
How long until book covers are just Marvel posters?

[Anonymous No.21542130]

i have trouble concentrating. but what should i re read, robin hobb or patrick rothfluss?

in before some says hes lazy

[Anonymous No.21542189]

>>21541832
Now read Lord of The Mysteries

[Anonymous No.21542287]

I just finished Galapagos. What did I think of it?

[Anonymous No.21542478]

>>21541454
Of course, he became strongest rank 10 immortal.

[Anonymous No.21542594]

>>21541294
disgusting

[Anonymous No.21542724]

>>21541657
I think around chapter 2 or 3, when the mage is arriving in Sumna, while on the boat, the author takes a couple of pages trying to be "deep" about the mage's sentiments and shit, when those pages could've been summarised to "and he arrived in the city" without bothering the reader.

[Anonymous No.21542733]

>>21542130
Hobb because she's actually a good writer and not just a twat with nothing to say doing his best Gaiman impression

[Anonymous No.21542787]

>>21541240
>open a webnovel thing
>700 chapters
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.21542804]

>>21542787
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.21542835]

wayne... ;-;
rip the funniest (and only funny) character sanderson has ever written

[Anonymous No.21542854]

>>21542724
Never write a book.

[Anonymous No.21542857]

>>21541319
They're designed to be eye-catching and aesthetically appealing in order to sell more books.

[Anonymous No.21542863]

>>21542189
Just finished it, even overlooking the sub-par translation problems it was completely average with terrible pacing issues. Now what?

[Anonymous No.21542866]

>>21541858
Most of the old sci-fi was kitschy schlock written to titillate teenage boys. It's not really until the 80s and after that the genre came into its own and some real masterpieces were written.

[Anonymous No.21542870]

Were angels being horny really a good enough reason to cause infighting between them?

[Anonymous No.21542904]

>>21542835
for realsies
more of his character development should have progressed through the first three books

[Anonymous No.21542945]

>if only you knew how bad things really were

[Anonymous No.21543125]

>>21542945
SOVL / 10
middleschool art class was based

[Anonymous No.21543135]

>>21542733
Too bad it's all about cuckoldry.
>doing his best Gaiman impression
Do r*ddit authors actually?

[Anonymous No.21543291]

>>21541240
What are some good zero to hero power fantasies with a heroic main character?
Don't recommend Cradle or any other wuxia. I've already read all of those. Also already read Wheel of Time and Name of the Wind.

[Anonymous No.21543309]

>>21542835
I mean we knew someone wouldn't make it, it was the last book of that time period after all.
I think it was a good sendoff too, I liked how he was just accepting of it when he was talking to sazed after he died.

I wonder if the next arc which I believe is 50ish years in the future will feature full mistborns. Wax's first two kids won't inherit it from him, but if he has anymore they might.

Also glad marasi turned down the ghostbloods. I was concerned he might make her shallan 2.0, but she has good principals.

[Anonymous No.21543316]

>>21543291
Cold Iron and it's sequels by Miles Cameron
Farm boy gets accepted into hedonistic wizard school and goes up from there

[Anonymous No.21543336]

thank you to the anon that has recommended The Deep

[Anonymous No.21543430]

What was their fucking problem?

[Anonymous No.21543500]

>OP image
Books for that feel? Already read the road and dog stars.

[Anonymous No.21543565]

>>21543336
that was me. You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.21543676]

Yes kween

[Anonymous No.21543703]

>>21543676
YASSS

[Anonymous No.21543737]

>>21543703
Are you reading she/they queers who live in Madrid, Anon?

[Anonymous No.21543765]

>>21543737
>R.F. Kuang approved this
Into the thrash it goes.

[Anonymous No.21543880]

>>21543765
The standards for sci fi now are just agitprop.

[Anonymous No.21543915]

Holy smokes!!! It heckin arrived

[Anonymous No.21543960]

>>21542857
They've always been designed with this principle in mind though. This isn't a defense it's just appealing to an authority that already has established a precedent of being wrong about these things by constantly changing their approach to designing covers.

[Anonymous No.21544000]

Do any of you niggas have a copy of Gene Wolfe's Young Wolfe 1992? I am a collectorfag and can't find it anywhere. It is the last thing I need

[Anonymous No.21544011]

>>21543880
>The Sister's voices are literally taken form them, rendering them free of agency
God I wish this were real

[Anonymous No.21544054]

>>21544000
Sent ;)

[Anonymous No.21544090]

Reading Earthsea for the first time. I can appreciate her economy of words, but it's combined with a weirdly detached narrator, and very little emotional weight or intimacy is given to either characters or events; it's like reading a Wikipedia plot synopsis.

At first I thought she was just quickly summarizing the backstory to get up to speed, but I'm 25% through and I think this is just the book

is the rest of the series like this?

[Anonymous No.21544271]

>>21544090
That's just to build up adult Ged's character. If le Guin has a male protagonist he's going to turn into a husbando in pretty short order.

[Anonymous No.21544312]

I will never understand how "The Saga of Pliocene Exile" isn't one of the most famous series.

[Anonymous No.21544322]

Alright, fags, give me your absolute BEST fantasy recommendations. I've been scrolling through A. Shipwright's twitter and I feel an undescribable urge to finally get into the genre. I'd like to hear of anything in the vein of his content, but I'm also taking just about anything with the sickest concepts and great writing.

I forgot this thread existed. :^)

[Anonymous No.21544326]

>>21544322
See
>>21544312

[Anonymous No.21544328]

>>21544322
Use the resources available in the OP.

[Anonymous No.21544336]

>>21544328
I've been going through them, but they're a bit too general and I'm looking for something more specific. I'd like some personal recommendations from people who may be familiar with my particular object of interest as a starting point.

[Anonymous No.21544343]

>>21544336
Here you go baby goo goo let lit spoon feed you recommendations open wide!

[Anonymous No.21544352]

>>21544343
Thank you, mama!

[Anonymous No.21544377]

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
>very good
Blade Runner
>abysmal
Why do people like this movie?

[Anonymous No.21544412]

>>21541688
A YouTuber I watch recommended this in a pseudo-book club way, my copy comes in tomorrow. I’m mainly reading for the setting itself so I’m glad that sticks the landing.

[Anonymous No.21544431]

Finished this kino yesterday. Already one of my favorites, the commonwealth saga is a perfect duology.

The French covers as leagues better than the American ones what’s up with that.

[Anonymous No.21544433]

>>21544322

Have you heard of this small indie author named Sandon Branderson?

[Anonymous No.21544456]

>>21544000
fuck off

[Anonymous No.21544483]

>>21544377
>Blade Runner
>>abysmal
>Why do people like this movie?
The aesthetics of the movie hinting at book components and also it was interesting

[Anonymous No.21544491]

Persuasive messaging to increase COVID-19 vaccine uptake intentions
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8531257/
>“Viewing vaccination through the lens of a collective action problem suggests that in addition to increasing individuals’ intentions to receive a vaccine, effective public health messages would also increase people’s willingness to encourage those close to them to vaccinate and to hold negative judgments of those who do not vaccinate. By encouraging those close to them to vaccinate, people are both promoting compliance with social norms and increasing their own level of protection against the disease. Also, by judging those who do not vaccinate more negatively, they apply social pressure to others to promote cooperative behavior. This would be consistent with theories of cooperation, like indirect reciprocity or partner choice, that rely on free riders being punished or ostracized for their past actions to encourage prosocial outcomes. Thus, effective messaging could have outsized effects on promoting vaccination if it both causes people to vaccinate themselves and to encourage those around them to do so.”

[Anonymous No.21544625]

Is there a series that's clearly power fantasy with as much body horror as LOTM? Simply walking into the wrong area could get you turned into a woman, impregnanted, and eaten alive by your babby alien-style

[Anonymous No.21544843]

>>21544456
>zothique
wasn't that fantasy?

[Anonymous No.21544908]

>>21544431
The first two books are good, but later it dives in quality

[Anonymous No.21544922]

>fang yuan beats the shit out of fang zheng in a competition
>fang zheng has a secret item from his elder, thinks about his waifu and gets encouraged by the crowd to stand up
>fang zheng gets up again with difficulty, crowd goes wild, theme song would be playing if reverend insanity was an anime
>fang zheng gets btfo
holy kino

[Anonymous No.21544956]

>>21543336
my god that cover is perfection

[Anonymous No.21544974]

>>21544322
Lord of the Rings
Assassin's Apprentice
Game of Thrones
The Deep
Titus Groan
Conan
The Swords Trilogy
Bridge of Birds

Get crackin

[Anonymous No.21544978]

>>21544843
Are you retarded?
You know BOTNS counts as fantasy?
You know all the books in the image are fantasy?
You know dying earth is a fantasy subgenre?

[Anonymous No.21545008]

>>21544328
That's a terrible suggestion. The stuff in the OP is like 60% WH40k trash, 20% Sanderson, and 20% shit literally everyone has already read so there's no point in recommending it like LotR.

>>21544322
The Curse of Chalion, and its sequels, along with Penric's Demon, which is a spinoff series of novelettes.

[Anonymous No.21545122]

>>21543430
Qu are just Astromorphs stuck in a time travel loop doing it so they aren't wiped from existence in the future.

[Anonymous No.21545126]

does anyone else look up character deaths because they don't like getting attached?

[Anonymous No.21545137]

>>21544322
If this thread is still alive in the morning, I'll check my bookshelves and post some recommendations for you.

[Anonymous No.21545194]

>>21544377
Are you blind by any chance?

[Anonymous No.21545261]

>>21545126
On the contrary, I long for the most tragic and unexpected deaths because they make me feel something

[Anonymous No.21545315]

>>21544412
It’s alright. Just be prepared for some politics and academic talk, but it’s part of the plot understandably.

[Anonymous No.21545322]

>>21545126
I'm trans btw if that matters

[Anonymous No.21545392]

>>21545322
no i'm not

[Anonymous No.21545401]

Best Heinlein book? I'm trying to avoid mutt writers but I still want to read one book from the founders

[Anonymous No.21545407]

>>21545401
Starship Troopers by a long shot. Most of his other stuff is just degenerate hippy coomer fantasies.

[Anonymous No.21545408]

>>21544312
It's been awhile since I've read it but I'm going to say it's because the plot is kind of loose. I can't remember any of the key beats. Additionally despite having a wide cast there isn't a relatable everyman.

[Anonymous No.21545484]

>>21545315
That doesn’t usually dissuade me, so I’m sure I’ll enjoy it well enough.

[Anonymous No.21545544]

>>21545407
>degenerate hippy coomer fantasies
Heinlein was Laurel Canyon gang. He made up degenerate shit for the government to push.

[Anonymous No.21545623]

>>21545194
As purely visual art it was beautiful and imaginative. It failed miserably in every other aspect.

[Anonymous No.21545637]

>>21545623
>It failed miserably in every other aspect.
Could you name any of them and justify your answer on why it failed?

[Anonymous No.21545655]

>binge ASoIF back in early 2010s expecting final book to release any day now (lmao)
>crave something similar
>historyfag friend suggests a bunch of historical novels
>somehow better fantasy than fantasy
>don't give a tiniest shit about actual fantasy anymore
>>21544322
Baudolino

[Anonymous No.21545678]

>>21545655
what historical novels

[Anonymous No.21545750]

>>21545637
Pretty much every scene with dialogue was a tragedy. So unbelievably amateur. Almost as bad as all of the acting and the clumsy, contextless references to the book. The soundtrack was excellent though.

[Anonymous No.21545759]

>>21541240
I can't remember the last time I read a new sci-fi or fantasy novel that wasn't trying too hard, or more for the young-adult crowd than anything else. I'm getting tired of it.

[Anonymous No.21545765]

>>21541294
Are these AI generataed?

[Anonymous No.21545768]

>>21545678
3 Kingdoms

[Anonymous No.21545810]

>>21545759
sounds like your brain is broken. take a break from the genre or books in general for a bit, then go back to it once you've shaken it off, got on meds, etc.

[Anonymous No.21545816]

>>21545810
>This genre is only getting more immature
>"Sounds like your brain is broken"
Not sure why I posted what I did, if I suspected the fanbase has shifted backwards to a high-school level. My apologies.

[Anonymous No.21545824]

>>21545655
You never gave a shit about fantasy if you're basing the entire genre off a song of ice and fucking fire.

[Anonymous No.21545894]

>>21541240
I thought some didn’t like all his mature works but the case of Charles dexter ward is great so far

[Anonymous No.21545942]

>>21545678
The Accursed Kings
I Claudius
Umberto Eco's novels

[Anonymous No.21545998]

>>21545816
believing that an entire culture is regressing in comparison to yourself is classic out-of-touch old person thinking

the simpler and correct answer is that it's you that has changed. maybe it's for the better, but if you don't like what you see then you should try to address it

[Anonymous No.21546009]

>>21545998
>point out everything is getting worse
>n-no you!
Your acceptance of constantly being fed shit is the reason nobody bothers making anything good.

[Anonymous No.21546021]

>>21545998
>You're older than me!
You really got me.

[Anonymous No.21546068]

Am I the only one who thinks Dune's mentats are just glorified secretaries?
The concept is good, I just don't think they deliver on the idea of human computers.
Still haven't finished book 1 though.
>pic unrelated, i'm just too lazy to look up an image of dune

[Anonymous No.21546071]

Do you think a general thread for worldbuilding and conlanging would work on /lit/?
I wish there was one, so I might create it.

[Anonymous No.21546078]

>>21546071
There’s already some on /tg/ and people sperg here if you bring up worldbuilding

[Anonymous No.21546200]

>>21546078
>There’s already some on /tg/
I know, but it's oriented towards making campaigns for roleplaying games, which is peak autismo. Worldbuilding is an integral part of fantasy writing, and a hobby in itself. It belongs here, just as conlanging.
>people sperg here if you bring up worldbuilding
But why though?
Anyways, I don't care, i'm gonna do it either way, the problem would be if people didn't support it enough.

[Anonymous No.21546224]

>>21546200
>But why though?
Because it's 'reddit'.
>inb4 soijack spam from the local zoomer

[Anonymous No.21546328]

>>21546068
Mentats trained from birth are sort of only O.K at the job. Mentats that are generated after 1,500 years of careful gene-selecting and imbued with scientifically measured autism and upgraded in Tlexiau laboratories are practically computers. You'll see.

[Anonymous No.21546463]

>>21545401
Farnham's Freehold.
An old timer prepper everyone thinks is nuts was actually right all along.
>>21546068
Mentats are lame weaklings who rightfully get cancelled by the 4th book. Tleilaxu are much more interesting.

[Anonymous No.21546535]

Picked these up. I'm pretty new to sci fi.
Reading Neuromancer currently.
Which do you recommend I read next?

[Anonymous No.21546547]

>>21546535
I liked the expanse but I have atrocious standards due to webnovel addiction

[Anonymous No.21546616]

I deeply regret reading John Gwynne. All of his characters are shallow, the prose is scuffed and it's just bad overall. So far this is only for his Faithful and Fallen series and the follow up one. Both are kind of bad

[Anonymous No.21546794]

Where do you guys find free audiobooks? Finding ebooks is easy but audiobooks seems considerably more difficult

[Anonymous No.21546795]

>>21546535
A Fire Upon the Deep or Blindsight would be a good counterpoint to Gibson's masturbatory techno-fanboyism. The Dispossessed is easily the best written, and I feel comfortable saying that without having read Banks or Hamilton. Martine and Corey belong in the fucking garbage.

[Anonymous No.21546811]

>>21546794
audiobookbay (dot) li

[Anonymous No.21546846]

>>21545942
>The Accursed Kings
I'll try this one. Haven't read a french book in a while

[Anonymous No.21546848]

>>21544922
That was kino scene, rereading it now.

[Anonymous No.21546870]

Post-apocalyptic sci-fi that isn't depressing and hopeless?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.21546888]

>>21541240
Aching God, Iconoclasts #1 - Mike Shel (2018)
This self-published dark fantasy novel is like a 1st Edition D&D adventure module, which shows that author has made use of his extensive professional background in tabletop RPGs. As for my own background, during my teenage years I read roughly 200 novels that had related D&D campaign settings and played as well. I was really deep into it for some years, which contributed to why I didn't like this at all. One might think it'd be the other way, but I couldn't help but it think it was a bootleg knock-off.

The main reason I didn't like this is because of how it's written, which I'm unable to explain in detail. Unfortunately I have more problems with it than that. The worldbuilding is expansive but shallow and oftentimes didn't make sense. This is a quest-based book, so as with many *RPGs it's almost entirely sidequests, detours, along the to the destination/main quest. To be clear, this is not LitRPG. There's a dungeon near the end in which the narrative shifts to ruin delver mode, but it doesn't last long until the book ends. I would be able to put all of these problems aside better if it didn't take itself so seriously. I see that as a disconnect between tone and content, which is more of a problem than I thought it'd be. All these problems would be less for someone who can accept its self-seriousness.

The protagonist is assigned party members from the ruin explorers guild which he's a retired member of. He's in his middle age after having survived almost 30 years of ruins exploration and has PTSD, from both domestic and adventuring life. His nightmares are provided in detail. There's not really anything that I want to say about the other party members, who are there to fill their relevant role. I didn't care for any of them and didn't have any engagement. There are many other NPCs that they meet and there are various encounters, but I couldn't care enough for any of it to matter, regardless of what happened to them.

The Hanifax Imperium, which is where all of this takes place, is ruled by a Queen well past her 100th year of rule. She made a pact with the trickster god to continue living, but that rather changed her. Now she's a chaotic evil dictator that everyone must follow or be killed by divine intervention as he's been made into the state religion. This is a problem for the Imperium, but it's much more so for those who meet her in person. I really wondered at what kind of cosmology would allow for the other gods, of which there are many, to be seemingly unconcerned about this. I looked at the synopsis for the two other books and all was revealed. I don't agree with a synopsis being complete spoilers, but it happens.

This is far better rated and reviewed by others and if it seems like something you'd enjoy, then it's more likely that their opinion has more predictive value for you than mine, so you may as well try. Otherwise, I suggest avoiding it.

Rating: 2/5

[Anonymous No.21546900]

>>21546888
/sffg/ ratings
Five Stars: 4
Four Stars: 2
Three Stars: 1
Two Stars: 1

I almost wrote a full-on rant instead about every problem I had with this, because there were so many, but decided against it. If it were more popular or traditionally published, I probably would've, but where's the sense in doing it against a self-published book? I have a different set of expectations for self-published works.

[Anonymous No.21546917]

>>21546900
Oh, and this was the second book that was voted for, for Jan. So, 1.5 and 2. Not the best start. Maybe next month will fare better. Next thread will be Tess of the Emerald Sea.

[Anonymous No.21546978]

>>21546888
>>21546900
>>21546917
your """reviews""" are shit
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.21547001]

>No Bastion sequel
>No Iron Prince sequel
it's over progressionbros...

[Anonymous No.21547013]

[Anonymous No.21547019]

>>21547013

[Anonymous No.21547040]

>>21547013
Why is Fang Yuan so much more based than other protagonists

[Anonymous No.21547046]

>>21542724
Frodo went to Mordor, and cast the ring into the fire

[Anonymous No.21547099]

>>21547013
Thank god this shit was banned by chinamen

[Anonymous No.21547109]

>>21547001
Bastion was shit and you should feel bad for wanting a sequel.
If you put Iron Prince in the same league as it, I know to avoid that now.

[Anonymous No.21547125]

>>21547001
Iron Prince author is busy talking shit to chuds on r*ddit

[Anonymous No.21547180]

>>21547001
>Caring about Iron Prince
Bastion at least has potential for where the sequel would go, but Iron Prince was just... Not anything. Nothing fucking happened despite it being 800 pages long. It's literally a training arc that culminates in "his best friend ends up dating the bully he just beat in a fight".

[Anonymous No.21547184]

>>21543291
Codex Alera

[Anonymous No.21547188]

>>21547180
Iron Prince author watched five whole shounen anime and wrote a terrible book with every trope he could find, and now he's getting into arguments with people on the gay book sub he's a mod of if they're not pro-trans.

[Anonymous No.21547189]

>>21542724
Average Bakker hater/Sandersnoy fan, everyone

[Anonymous No.21547192]

>>21544456
that catholic can write tho

[Anonymous No.21547196]

>>21547188
Which one? Isn't there two authors for Iron Prince?

[Anonymous No.21547200]

>>21547196
o conner

[Anonymous No.21547214]

>>21547192
>hehe let me write a story where nobody acts like a normal human being, the plot goes nowhere, and worldbuilding has to be puzzled out from the bits left by the unreliable narrator like a game of fucking Cluedo lmao I'll use made up words too :D

[Anonymous No.21547231]

>>21546535
>Solaris
>Blindsight
These two are great, especially Blindsight. Haven't read the rest.

[Anonymous No.21547241]

>>21547040
Western authors are more interested in feminism and lgbt love interests, they do not care about making based main characters.

[Anonymous No.21547243]

>>21546535
Fire Upon the Deep is terrible. Half the book is kinda fun talking dogs having war, and other half is several retards reading twitter on a spaceship, and there's a talking flower

[Anonymous No.21547289]

>>21544312
I'm reading Galactic Milieu right now. It took me forever to read Pliocene Exile and Intervention but it was worth it to get to this series, it's a 10/10 banger.
>>21545655
Sword of Shadows is as close as anything is it ASOIAF while still being it's own unique thing.
>>21547243
Actual shit opinion, don't listen to this anon

[Anonymous No.21547346]

>>21547243
You're confusing the first book and the sequels. The sequels are pretty shit.

[Anonymous No.21547355]

>>21547188
>>21547241
Sad!

[Anonymous No.21547433]

>>21547214
You don't even have enough life experience to know what a normal human being acts like.

[Anonymous No.21547450]

>>21547214
>I'll use made up words too
unlike the other writers on your list you fucking pseud

[Anonymous No.21547522]

>>21547214
>made up words
Point one out.

[Anonymous No.21547773]

[Anonymous No.21547853]

Will I die before another Bakker Kino is released?

I only come here once a year to check on him btw,

[Dave Mustaine No.21548022]

>>21547853
Please stay anon, don't leave us alone

[Anonymous No.21548071]

New momkino fantasy by Kate Elliott is out, i know how much you faggots love older women mcs

[Anonymous No.21548074]

>>21547773
The Shelf that Saved /sffg/ 2.0

[Anonymous No.21548084]

>>21544312
I prefer the 80s cover

[Anonymous No.21548393]

Is there a web2epub kinda thing for patreon chapters?

[Anonymous No.21548438]

>>21548393
what are u reading that u even went ahead and paid for patreon?

[Anonymous No.21548458]

>>21548438
>paid

[Anonymous No.21548514]

>>21548458
if u gonna act like a retard, at least answer my question nigger

[Anonymous No.21548527]

>>21548084
I really like this one, barring the obnoxious pull quote

[Anonymous No.21548545]

>>21548393
I bet you can still use web2epub but you'd have to create a custom profile for patreon. However that would require some html + css knowledge.

[Anonymous No.21548827]

>>21548393
Does it have to be epub? As far as I know most ereaders can read .txt files and similar. Any reason why you can't do that? Copypaste the text into a text file and put it on there.

[Anonymous No.21549096]

There is this strand of compassion running through LOTR that I haven't seen replicated in many other books. I don't think it is matters the genre or tone too, it is more an overall attitude toward people that flows from the author.
Ironically I would say its opposite isn't something like Bakker, where there is this complete lack of belief in the worth of man and life, but rather it finds its antithesis in works like Malazan. Erikson's "compassion" is completely phoney, unsubtle in masking its politicization, and ultimately sees itself as a course correction/apology for Fantasy as a whole.

While both are compassionless series Bakker actively negates, while Erikson offers a counterfeit.

[Anonymous No.21549102]

>>21549096
I have no idea what you're talking about but cool my guy

[Anonymous No.21549127]

>>21549096
>like Bakker, where there is this complete lack of belief in the worth of man and life
t. haven't read Bakker

[Anonymous No.21549134]

>>21549096
This feels like a post written by an AI after feeding it 100 /sffg/ threads.

[Anonymous No.21549320]

>>21544412
>>21541688
Its really nice but Im a huge Mieville-fag. C&C really thrives on the setting and its a good detective story. If you enjoy it, Ill recommend going for Kraken next, which is my favorite. Perdido Street Station is really dope imo but thats where the world building is the most intense and hard to follow. Mieville is super creative and I do like his prose a lot but he is almost too creative at times, struggling to shove every cool idea he has into one book. It can become convoluted and I understand anyone who gets turned off by that but if you enjoy crative worlds and cool concepts he is one of the best out there. And dont believe the fags crying about Muh politics in his book. Theyre not overbearing and mostly quite based when you notice them.

[Anonymous No.21549520]

Hello guys I just wanted to say that one anon recommended me Terry Pratchett’s books to get me into reading and it helped! I used to read 1 book every 1.5 years, it’s middle of January and I finished 2 of his already.
Than you anon I owe you my brain.

[Anonymous No.21549524]

is z-lib.is the go-to atm? how do you even download from there

[Anonymous No.21549561]

Dunno if this is really the place for it but
I was reading What the Moon Brings by Lovecraft, it says
>And when I saw that this reef was but the black basalt crown of a shocking eikon whose monstrous forehead now shone in the dim moonlight and whose vile hooves must paw the hellish ooze miles below
What is an 'eikon'? There's nothing about it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.21549564]

>>21549520
Terry Pratchett was a legend. I have a physical copy of all Discworld books because they're just too good to keep in digital, they need to be felt.

[Anonymous No.21549569]

>>21549561
It's a fancy way to spell "icon"

[Anonymous No.21549576]

>>21549320
I'm complaining about the politics because I aligned with a party that was completely opposed to his own party. Ever hear of Ortho trots hating on revisionist trots? Also, his discussion of Foucault in C&C is very surface level and annoying. But I like the novel anyway.

[Anonymous No.21549581]

>>21549524
It's some copycat site looks like.
I use https://annas-archive.org/

[Anonymous No.21549607]

>>21549096
Bakker
>obsession with scientism represents dehumanizing danger of falling into degeneracy and hedonistic race to the bottom
>men who reject empathy and culture turn into machines and lose themselves
>religious sentiments no matter how fradulent, permit men to accomplish heroic deeds
>immortality is the death of passion and decay of the civilization, human life is fleeting yet has meaning
>there's glory even in meaningless sacrifice
>gay sex is fucking disgusting

Tolkien
>west people good, east people bad
>elves are cool :D
>luv rural life simple as
>all conflicts are resolved if you just plop a bad man ring in volcano ))

[Anonymous No.21549635]

Jon fucking Umber
what awaits this guy in the end?

[Anonymous No.21549652]

>>21549635
nothing

[Anonymous No.21549683]

>>21549607
>Tolkien
>>west people good, east people bad
>>elves are cool :D
>>luv rural life simple as
>>all conflicts are resolved if you just plop a bad man ring in volcano ))
This is unironically better thoughever? If I wanted to read philosophy, I'd read philosophy. Why would I waste my time with fantasy novels written by some mediocracy who couldn't even defend his phd dissertation?

High iq people (me) read fantasy for entertainment, it's supposed to be cheap and easy. Only midwits, too midwit to read actual philosophy, try to squeeze some intellectual value from a novel about epic swordsmen, mages and dragons

[Anonymous No.21549697]

>>21549683
> High iq people (me)
Those are a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes for a supposed genius

[Anonymous No.21549700]

>>21549683
Back to reððit

[Anonymous No.21549768]

>>21541360
I just finished the last book myself as well

Your post basically mirrors how I thought of the series. The last two had tons of bloat, but the final book at least worked things out well even if it required killing nearly every decent character left.

Grace of Kings is still the best one and Wall of Storms just felt ridiculous with Jia's sabotage and the not-Monguls' backstory of getting super ships and their OP birds felt like too much was handed to them.

[Anonymous No.21549784]

>>21549768
yeah the barbarians were a bit too OP in how quick they learned everything

[Anonymous No.21550100]

>>21544090
It's all like that.
LeGuin is one of the most overrated fantasy authors ever shilled.

[Anonymous No.21550111]

>>21544322
Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd & The Grey Mouser.

[Anonymous No.21550145]

>>21549096
Assassin's Apprentice has it as well imo
Titus Groan comes to mind too
I also found Lonesome Dove to be a very compassionate boon

[Anonymous No.21550166]

>>21550145
>Assassin's Apprentice
Robin Hobb is miserytourism extraordinaire and in retrospect also chock-full of fujoshit as it goes on.

[Anonymous No.21550186]

>>21549096
Pratchett probably haf some of the most genuine compassion for people while also having utter contempt for some people, I've noticed. Arguably deserved contempt, but it's a very bitter sort of optimism he had.

[Anonymous No.21550310]

>>21550186
He was fairly archetypal of a sort of liberal or Laborite. Even one of his novels is about transgenderism and many of his novels revolve around gender. It's the kind of thing you'd expect from a boomer feminist professor (many of which I learned under).

[Anonymous No.21550744]

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1674241240689831.webm

[Anonymous No.21550774]

>>21546870
There's only one correct answer.

[Anonymous No.21550795]

Forget Kelhus, there is a Brother Rike inside all of us.
MC being cunnypilled is a plus too.

[Anonymous No.21550819]

>>21547289
I actually never even started Galactic Milieu because someone told me it was far worse than SoPE, I guess I should check it out.

My dad (RIP) said the only part he liked was about a character named Jack the Bodiless.

[Anonymous No.21551003]

Filthcore queen is cancelling Brandon Sanderson.
>Brandon Sanderson affirming the LDS church's institutional homophobia on his personal blog. My two cents, we've tolerated this guy in SFF for far too long.
https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/1616493571837657110
https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/1616501700294021122

[Anonymous No.21551013]

>>21551003
>TONY: Brandon Sanderson's a homophobe?
>PAULIE: What word's dat sound like?
>CHRISTOPHER: HomoPHOBE. PHOBE.
>PAULIE: Watch it, Chrissy.
https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/1616506918167535616

[Anonymous No.21551019]

>medieval fantasy
>MC gets caught up in a war and joins an army
>suddenly modern military jargon everywhere
>modern military ranks all the way down to privates and corporals with platoons and squads and companies with names like "Company B"
>fucking Hollywood army movie cliches like the hard-ass evil sonovabitch sergeant, hazing, and other bootcamp shit
>suddenly switches back to medieval fantasy whenever magic and the nobility are mentioned
>I'm supposed to believe this 20th century military is the personal retinue of a fucking Baron or something
This is so fucking jarring to read. If you can't be assed to figure out how feudal armies worked don't fucking write a war story in a feudal setting.

[Anonymous No.21551029]

>>21551019
>muh realism

wrong thread buddy

[Anonymous No.21551035]

>>21551019
read there will be dragons by john ringo

[Anonymous No.21551040]

>>21551029
I didn't say a word about realism. The problem is not sticking to a fucking aesthetic that was established in the first 150 pages of the book and doing a bunch of nonsense because you don't know how your own setting is supposed to work.

[Anonymous No.21551041]

>>21551003
literally who?

[Anonymous No.21551044]

>>21551040
>muh cohesion

wrong thread buddy

[Anonymous No.21551047]

>>21551003
>>21551013
What's your intention in posting this. To generate outrage? For what purpose? To laugh at them? Rude, but ok. This is the sort of situation where it's better to let them languish in obscurity, forever unheard. So, I ask you, why? Absolutely nothing will come of this, except maybe their own unforced career destruction since they're with the same publisher.

[Anonymous No.21551051]

>>21551019
>>21551040
>reading modern authors
kek
just read the white company

[Anonymous No.21551056]

uhh sandy trannies?

[Anonymous No.21551060]

>>21551040
It looks like a "you" problem.
Sounds cool to me.

[Anonymous No.21551064]

>>21551047
>forever unheard
>not knowing Felker-Martin's book is one of the best-selling 2022 novels

[Anonymous No.21551067]

>>21551047
>not knowing [...] 2022 novels
Shame on you, anon! Haha gotcha, fucking owned!!!

[Anonymous No.21551070]

>>21551064
oh , like 50 shades of gray?

[Anonymous No.21551081]

Based.
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40scumbelievable%20rape&src=typed_query

[Anonymous No.21551113]

>>21551003
excited for /lit/ to pivot to total Sandershills in light of this news

[Anonymous No.21551118]

>>21551113
Shills have been calling sanderson "based" because he's religious for a while now newfag

[Anonymous No.21551122]

>>21551064
It's rather sad the lengths that anons will go to try to maintain the validity of their point. This is my final reply as you're just fabricating whatever you need.

>>21551067
I was aware of the novel. I really hope this was an entirely ironic comment because it would be too sad otherwise. Even as irony it's pitiable though.

>>21551081
"I hate everything about this person except they support rape as much as I do!"

[Anonymous No.21551145]

>>21551118
yeah but him being popular and contemporary have outweighed a lot of his based godpill. there's no street cred in liking him in the same way as bakker etc.

being cancelled for epic anti-lgbt opinions is his golden ticket...

[Anonymous No.21551171]

>>21546535
pretty based scifisister. give Greg Egan a try next, he is pretty "hard" sci-fi. Permutation City is a good start

[Anonymous No.21551188]

found rare good litrpg (with dungeon core elements) on Royal Road. It's called apparatus of change and it manages to make use of it's litrpg elements in a way that actually ads to the story by focusing on minimal use of numbers or system and instead using it only as a limit for a list of creative solutions available to MC, whilst making it's mechanic intrinsic part of the character and narrative. Highly recommend to anyone interested.

[Anonymous No.21551238]

>>21551188
from the reviews it sounds minimalistic and a bit depressing? Eh , sure , I'll put it on my to read list.

[Anonymous No.21551242]

/sffglit/ with cute LGs?

[Anonymous No.21551250]

>>21551003
>we've tolerated this guy in SFF for far too long

Arrogant cunt.
I hope she will die of cancer.

[Anonymous No.21551263]

>>21551003
>there is no such thing as the cathedral, people just think you are an asshole - self proclaimed asshole

[Anonymous No.21551285]

>>21551263
Ok Yarvinist

[Anonymous No.21551299]

>>21551238
Minimalistic, in a sense, yes. As for depressing - depends.

Minimalism is largely rooted in the fact that LITRPG elements are limited to function of magic and abstraction (leveling/exp, if you will) rather than havin HP/MP as such. I think for all it's minimalism it's more creative and interesting than waste majority of "System" novels I've come across. The only two recent ones that come to mind that compare as far as RR is Scorched(great but on hiatus) and Edge Cases (a bit different and more action oriented, haven't bothered to catch up, but it's not bad either)

The Depressing part on the other hand is a bit of a stretch, it's rather somber and emotive but it's more bittersweet than sour. There are moments of hope, of humanity, of connection, and moments of sadness, depression and guilt. I find it appealing precisely because of that. The seting is post-apocalypsys fo a sort. But unlike most in the genre I actually like it because You can see that the event that caused has some logic to it as do it's consequences. Furthermore that the world itself continues existing and developing even tho it's new type of existence.

[Anonymous No.21551303]

>>21551029
literary realism has been pronounced dead since the turn of the 20th century

[Anonymous No.21551310]

>>21551303
oh no , I'll cry myself to sleep

[Anonymous No.21551314]

>>21551310
do you people read anything outside of the genre fiction that is marketed to you? you know weird fiction blurs the line between oral stories, literature, penny dreadfuls, pulp, etc., go enjoy other shit

[Anonymous No.21551318]

>>21551019
You do realize that platoon, corporal, squad etc are not modern terms. Corporal was first used in like 1500s

[Anonymous No.21551354]

>>21551314
I'm too old to be wooed by that.

[Anonymous No.21551357]

Why is dieselpunk so underrepresented when it comes to fantasy? Are there any good fantasy books or sagas set in a dieselpunk world, potentially with analogues of the Second World War?

[Anonymous No.21551361]

>>21549096
C.J Cherryh, Guy Gavriel Kay, Sean Russell and Lord Dunsany write great compassionate characters. Other writers that come to mind are T.H White, Thomas Burnett Swann, Carol berg, Mary Stewart (The Merlin Trilogy and The Wicked Day) barbara hambly.
>>21550145
>Lonesome Dove
Based Westernposter

[Anonymous No.21551363]

>>21551357
>dieselpunk
It's largely move sideways from historical tech and it's not quite as novel as steampunk, which already fills that already small niche.

[Anonymous No.21551365]

>>21551354
As long as you're not some boomer who only reads shitty spy or romance/erotica novels, I don't really think that's bad you read what you like. But I can't imagine someone reinventing the wheel in military sci fi to be as exciting for the umpteenth time.

[Anonymous No.21551377]

>>21551357
I mean , is it even a lit category? I've only seen it in art and video games.

[Anonymous No.21551381]

>>21551363
steampunk is overdone and fucking boring, I don't understand how victorian memeing is "novel" in comparison to diesel

[Anonymous No.21551388]

>>21551357
If we take fantasy to be the broader form, then you could just include "sci fi" that has dieselpunk. I'm sure you've seen it but this list is a start:
https://best-sci-fi-books.com/19-best-dieselpunk-books/
Still don't really see how you'd have a legit medieval fantasy with diesel technology though.

[Anonymous No.21551404]

>>21551381
Neither appeals to me, so I can't say, tho I'd venture a guess that tradition/habit is the answer. Especially given that some folks have a hard on for victorian era, and StP is, sometimes, just a way to add some extra flavour to that.

[Anonymous No.21551412]

>>21551404
guess i'm just turned on by theoretical machines running on some dirty diesel, not really era fetish

[Anonymous No.21551416]

>>21551357
>Whatever-punk
The only real punk subgenre is cyberpunk, everything else is retards on Tumblr and Reddit talking about shitty cosplays and artwork. It never was and it never will be real literature

[Anonymous No.21551443]

>>21551416
This.

[Anonymous No.21551444]

>>21551416
Against the Day is Steampunk and Literature

[Anonymous No.21551485]

>>21551242
Aside from Bernd Lauert on alt.sex.stories and of course piper's domain. I really can't think of much else. On allthefallen there is a forum for stories, but nothing interesting, they do host an archive of erotic stories.

People like cultivation with op child protagonists, I think a good premise for an isekai, would be:
Start:
Protagonist, female is born is some shitty village, that has the lowest grade cultivation techniques, a reincarnated man (from earth and called for the purposes of this text "grandpa" though he is like 25), that shares senses with protagonist, can't directly communicate (until much later) but can with much effort, make the host think of an idea or action.
Though he has never cultivated, grandpa has a large spirit sense (it's like 50 miles actually minuscule for its quality which passes everyone in the solar system and anyone at the off world clan who owns the planet) and gets the baby to crawl off (the stronger the host gets the less grandpa can affect her) and find some cheat treasure.
The cheat treasure slows down her aging (allowing the grandpa to gather powerful natural items for later use) to the point where she is still 5 or 6 physically and mentally (she ranges from 5-10 years old mentally depending on the story and believability and grandpa injected ideas, but she has a lot of training fighting, so this is her goto ) after 10 years, she has permanently stopped aging at this point, her cultivation hasn't improved at all, and eventually she is either kicked out, or her village is destroyed perhaps both.
From that point on we repeat the cycle of
power up
baddies attack
beat baddies
big baddie attack
lose and taken to rape dungeon, ero/training/temporary mental or body mods/
escape / power up then escape (escape may include destroying big baddies)
With some filler chapters and side plots. Maybe even romance and dual cultivation after losing to a not so evil big baddie.

A b cycle would be something like
go to new city
get tricked
become "young master's sex sleeve" black market prostitute/slave or whatever
sexy time
back to main loop
ToTs?

[Anonymous No.21551492]

What can you recommend for someone that enjoyed the Southern Reach trilogy? Especially Authority. The burocratic shit was very fun.

[Anonymous No.21551498]

>>21551003
Sanderson killed the ending of Wheel of Time with pozzed shit.

[Anonymous No.21551524]

>>21551250
She’s gonna die of obesity related complications like an infection or diabetes

[Anonymous No.21551539]

*lampoons*

[Anonymous No.21551542]

[Anonymous No.21551543]

[Anonymous No.21551547]

>>21551485
And it's just a start of the multiverse, as when she reaches the highest tier of existence, she makes weaves the karmic fate of centillions of female cultivators across every universe to have at least a much prepubescent sex as she did, her dao is that of the child whore, she got that after she exercised grandpa from her body in chapter 1500 putting him in the body of a toad, and he came back stronger than her by a full realm with his own dao. But he has so much sex with her that a trap (put in her body in chapter 1755 by the jealous wife of big baddies that she lost to in 1730 that goes off when a man fills her womb more than a thousand times) that would kill both of them went off, but through a separate encounter (blowie while working as a busgirl) with a wandering immortal master ( chapter 1903 ) the trap was turned into a lifesaving device that absorbs the man. Then she reached daoseeking stage and meditated with her new power/senses and found her dao in under 100 years! Which is the fastest on record for the last billion years of records of that galaxy she was in at the time.

[Anonymous No.21551548]

>>21551542

[Anonymous No.21551550]

I wish there were actually good anime tier books, but not sure where to find them. I tried Light Novels like Goblin Slayer but it was shit.

[Anonymous No.21551565]

>>21551550
Have you tried re:monster or one of the many vrmmorpg novels like moonlight sculptor or overgeard or (i swear to god there was another one what was it called)

[Anonymous No.21551580]

>>21551539
I read all of it last year and enjoyed it but I don't remember anything about the setting or characters, amazing forgetfulness value despite being a fun read.

[Anonymous No.21551588]

>>21551543
the fuck does that mean

[Anonymous No.21551601]

>>21551492
>pining after used up sluts who won't fuck you
>mc hates wypipo apropos of nothing
Isn't this every major award winner written after 2010?

[Anonymous No.21551606]

>>21551601
excuse you, mr!

[Anonymous No.21551612]

>>21551588
Act 2, Scene 2 Lines 116-122
Romeo & Juliet
Well, do not swear. Although I joy in thee,
I have no joy of this contract tonight.
It is too rash, too unadvised, too sudden,
Too like the lightning, which doth cease to be
Ere one can say 'It lightens.' Sweet, good night.
This bud of love, by summer's ripening breath,
May prove a beauteous flower when next we meet.

[Anonymous No.21551649]

>>21551606
It's accurate plot synopsis. You can't just plop a shit on the floor and act offended when other people use the s-word.

[Anonymous No.21551652]

Does the goddamn cat come back in this?

[Anonymous No.21551669]

>>21551652
lole
even reddit hates that book for the author going full retard and bastardizing everyone's character of any significant note

[Anonymous No.21551673]

>>21551652
Kys. I told you not to read past book 2.

[Anonymous No.21551697]

>>21551550
>anime tier books
you mean fantasy books written by japs or fantasy books with anime-like battles?

[Anonymous No.21551710]

>>21551492
The movie Shin Godzilla

[Anonymous No.21551757]

Good mystery books?

As long as there is a logic behind I don't mind no realistic elements.

[Anonymous No.21551790]

>>21551757
What do you mean by mystery? Puzzles, murder, conspiracy, supernatural, or something else? Science fiction or fantasy?

[Anonymous No.21551818]

>>21551757
Rogue Moon Algis Budrys

[Anonymous No.21551895]

>>21551757
Garrett PI books are fun. I'm not very genre savvy, so I don't know how obvious the reveals are to someone who is, but Cook always tips his hand somewhere.

[Anonymous No.21551952]

>>21551361
quintet... sovl...

[Anonymous No.21552111]

>>21551952
There isn't any such thing as "sovl".

[Anonymous No.21552156]

Good cunny books?

As long as there are nubile young prepubescents, I don't mind unrealistic elements.

[Anonymous No.21552168]

>>21551952
based /vr/poster

[Anonymous No.21552199]

>>21552156
Black Company.

[Anonymous No.21552209]

>>21552199
Glen Cook?

[Anonymous No.21552229]

>>21551697
The former. I might try Vampire Hunter D if I can.

[Anonymous No.21552240]

>>21552199
ctrl-f'd through a few thousand pages. Not really anything there except for not even a scene in the few pages.

[Anonymous No.21552244]

They don't make weird writers like this no more...

[Anonymous No.21552256]

>>21552244
I think they make too many

[Anonymous No.21552541]

>>21552229
I read the first 8 and don't really recommend it. The best two already have movies. Demon Deathchase is maybe marginally better than Bloodlust, but only because Bloodlust plays the standard Jap movie strategy of sanitize the female lead and make her a romantic interest.

[Anonymous No.21552589]

Sanderson KNEELS to Cuttlefish

[Anonymous No.21552646]

>>21551498
Based Sandersoy

[Anonymous No.21552661]

>>21551498
WoT was always a hair-tugging cuck story

[Anonymous No.21552684]

These threads are just unbearable.

[Anonymous No.21552691]

>>21552684
Some literal who said something on Twitter and for some reasons, a few fags are trying to make it a big deal here.

[Anonymous No.21552712]

>>21551612
the fuck does that mean

[Anonymous No.21552718]

>>21552712
"If I have sex with him on the first date we won't have a second."

[Anonymous No.21552721]

>>21552712
A simile (/ˈsJməli/) is a figure of speech that directly compares two things. Similes differ from metaphors by highlighting the similarities between two things using comparison words such as "like", "as", "so", or "than"

[Anonymous No.21552723]

>>21552718
the fuck does that mean

[Anonymous No.21552727]

>>21552721
the fuck does that mean

[Anonymous No.21552734]

>>21552727
that does mean the fuck

[Anonymous No.21552735]

>>21551357
It barely exists as lit because kind of like Steampunk all the meat of the genre is in its aesthetic. The closest you get to actual depth is when Bioshock slaps some objectivism into it's cool art deco city.

[Anonymous No.21552739]

>>21552735
graphenepunk doesn't even have an aesthetic which is why it's dead

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>>21552739
>graphenepunk
That isn't a thing.

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>>21552691
It's always the inanest reasons.

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>>21552762
That’s because it isn’t.

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>>21549635
nothing

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>>21551357
Because dieselpunk isn’t fantasy. That’s why it’s so underrepresented.

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>>21551357
>y is dieselpunk so underrepresented when it comes to fantasy?
Because Dieselpunk is Retrofuturism and a subgenre of science fiction. Learn your subgenres before posting.

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>>21552735
Steampunk is more numerous though.

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>>21552735
>It barely exists as lit because kind of like Steampunk all the meat of the genre is in its aesthetic.
Try reading steamgoth. That's where the real meat is.

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>>21552823
>SteamGoth
The names just keep getting stupider. When will it end.

[Anonymous No.21552838]

>>21552829
I think its part of the fun and creative, since people are always trying to invent a new subgenre in a subgenre.

[Anonymous No.21552841]

>>21552209
Yes

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>>21552838
It’s just really dumb at this point. Not to mention counterproductive since most of the names are just made up.

[Anonymous No.21552847]

>>21552844
>names are just made up.
Yeah, no shit. People who read steamgoth just listing books that are steampunks mixed with Gothic horror. hence the name

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>>21551757
Then you don’t want a mystery book?

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>>21551757
>Good mystery books?
Try reading Agatah Christie. She's a master in her field.

[Anonymous No.21552854]

>>21552240
I know this is a revolutionary concept, but have you thought about reading the book?

[Anonymous No.21552856]

>>21546870
There are none.

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>>21552847
Still dumb.

[Anonymous No.21552860]

>>21551003
This would explain why he stepped down as a consultant for the Wheel of Time Amazon adaptation. Not only did Amazon rape the lore, they also included gay romances.

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>>21552829
it's fine. specific and weird and jargon-y genre labels are the best because genre exists solely to hint at what to expect from a book.

there is zero confusion as to what a book labeled as "steamgoth" contains. it's when genres are broad and general they become useless, especially for recommendations (which is what this conversation is about)

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>>21552229
Try Moribito, unfortunately only the first two were officially TLed, Twelve Kingdoms (there's an unofficial TL better than the Tokyopop ones which cut random bits to shorten the novel), and Beast Player/Warrior or Kemono no Souja.

If you're up for sword and sorcery then Guin Saga is okay too, but it's pacing becomes slow pretty quickly.

I've been enjoying the Ascendance of a Bookworm novels too.

Honestly it seems like JP is sort of stunted in the regular fantasy novel department. The ones that exist seem to mostly be written by women and put out as serials like Guin or children's novels, even when they aren't really for children, which I guess is similar to how shounen works. Not that it matters how they're classified as long as they're good, but they just aren't very numerous.

Instead you find it in other mediums like manga sometimes and anime and now LNs have generic-ified it.

Part of the problem might be that they publish books at really small sizes there so for translated books like WoT, they apparently break single novels up into as many as three volumes.

[Anonymous No.21552867]

>Meng Hao finally paying off his debt to Steward Zhou in the last chapter

KINO
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[Anonymous No.21552896]

I've just started reading the last arc of LOTM1, do you think there are realms beyond the outer gods xianxia style where there's a never-ending power progression?

[Anonymous No.21552935]

I'm intrigued by JG Ballard. What books should I read?
I enjoyed the BBC radio play of The Concrete Island.

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>>21552735
That's the thing about other 'punk genres. Cyberpunk started as a literary thing, and branched out into other mediums.
Things like Steampunk or Dieselpunk are more centered on video games, which is fine for what it is, but how many novels can you write about sick airships, and people in greasy overalls? What's the story?

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>>21552935
>I'm intrigued by JG Ballard. What books should I read?
Whichever you want. You’re the one that’s going to read it.

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>>21552966
I WILL rape you.

[Anonymous No.21553079]

>read The Lost Metal
>people use the word 'tsunami' when there's no Japan in that world
>Wayne mentioned 'cherry blossom' when there's no Japan in that world
BRANDONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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>>21551790

Either a realistic mystery book or a hard science-fiction mystery book or a hard fantasy mystery book

[Anonymous No.21553089]

>>21553079
other cherry types have blossoms too you know

[Anonymous No.21553099]

Read white sand comic
It wasn't very good
Your not missing much if you are someone who is interested in learning more about the greater cosmere
It introduces the sand masters powers, whcih is basically controlling sand and the trade off is they need to drink water
It also introduces khriss, she's a main character in it but you can read a summary of what happens in the comics in like one paragraph
It's mostly a bunch of politics stuff and action condensed to a small area which is meaningless to the greater cosmere since it's like 300 years or smth pre stormlight
They already have access to guns

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>>21552853
Thank you. I forgot about her. I read one of here books and it was way better than Arthur Conan Doyle.

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>>21551818
>>21551895

I'll make a note of that, thanks.

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>>21552240
The black company is the only sff books I can think of that actually DO have cunny and it's almost a plot point

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>>21553079
You people get hung up on the weirdest shit. Literally who cares if they call waves tsunami or peepeepoopoo?

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>>21553131
Autists don't know how to enjoy a story. Shouldn't be shocking to you.

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>>21553099
>Read white sand comic
>It wasn't very good
Same, still hoping he will rewrite (better) it in book format.

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>>21553079
>They use English
>In a world without England
How could they do this!?!??!

[Anonymous No.21553214]

This is really poorly written and feels like an edgy teenager wrote it. Thanks for memeing me into buying your self-published garbage, faggot.

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>>21551673
I'm about to start book 2. Book 1 was alright, some issues with dialogue waffling between modern slang and renaissance fair, but pretty fun stuff. Book 2 is in the mail. What's so bad about the books after it?

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>>21551318
And you're probably not aware but the 16th century is part of the modern era. So yes, it's a modern term. But I'm not even interested in the term itself, but rather the way it's used, which is in a 20th century military context that makes no sense in the story I'm reading.

[Anonymous No.21553267]

>>21553255
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.21553276]

>>21553255
You people get hung up on the weirdest shit.

[Anonymous No.21553403]

>>21553255
Everything from 1 AD to now is the same era according to atheists

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>>21553403
After common era*
Chud

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>>21551550
Mushoku Tensei's LN is probably the closest thing to what you want. You can find it on nyaa

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>>21551580
Hey that's me. I consoom books and the only lasting effect I get if either I liked them or not.

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>>21551539
Amon is just Chinese Aizen

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New thread
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>>21553240
lol, it's available on libgen, you didn't need to buy it
author goes legit sjw and brings current world progressive and identity politics into medieval story, if you thought modern slang was bad then modern sjw nonsense is 10000000 times worse

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>>21553563
New

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>>21552896
Maybe, maybe not. It's a plot point that the greater the consolidation, the greater the force pulling it apart. So it's concievable that a sequence -1 would just instantly explode back into a dozen sequence 0s. Or maybe there's some method to moving a step forward. In that case you have to think about how "God" is ONLY the earth and the solar system, and equal or superior beings could exist in every solar system. But then again that scale is so ludicrous you'd have a hard time fitting it even in most xiaxia systems.
I mean theoretically you could have the mc be a sentient solar system and have the "cultivation world" be the entire galaxy, but it's so abstract and inhuman it'd either be impossible to understand, boring, or abstracted to the point where it's a standard setting and people just use funny names for things.
My prediction is that part two will be mostly angel level, with the MC eventually coming into play against MAYBE ONE lovecraft-esque super-god from beyond the stars where he has to team up with the outer gods and gattai into a giant gurren lagaan
It's really unclear what's left to do in part two desu, he's already used all the setting, plot twists, characters, etc... What else is there to do that isn't just a repeat?