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In math and science there is progress and answers.

In philosophy there is 2500 years of intellectual masturbation and nothing more.

>> No.21539731
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21539731

>>21539724
maths is gay

>> No.21539732

>>21539724
I masturbate my penis intellectually

>> No.21539739

>>21539731
Thank you ma’am, that’s really nice

>> No.21539742

>>21539724
Mathematically or scientifically answer why there is something instead of nothing. In 300 years, science has answered not a single serious question. It has answered scientific questions, but it has not answered a single question which a Man, not a scientist, would care to ask.

>> No.21539748

>>21539742
“Why” implies causality. Everything in the universe is based on cause and effect, but we have no reason to believe that cause and effect remains valid outside of the universe.

Therefore, there is no reason why there is something instead of nothing.

>> No.21539775

>>21539724
cope

>> No.21539789
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>>21539748
cope

>> No.21539796

>>21539724
What is philosophy supposed to yield?? Answer: Marcel Foucault’s “Fish in Speedo”

>> No.21539829

>>21539724
didja know there's a style of fortune reading that utilizes the formation of cheese curds? it's called tyromancy.

just thought i'd share!

>> No.21539861

>>21539742
If "why" means some purpose the answer is that there is no why
If it means how than it's still unknown as no of the existing hypothesis have gather enough evidence to be truly proven and there is also the question if "nothingness" was/is even a thing in the first place instead of just an abstract concept without any weight in reality

>> No.21539882

>>21539861
You believe that there is an answer as to “how” the universe, being, etc. has evidently come to be. This supposition is faith without evidence. On the grandest level, i.e. true knowledge of the oneness of being, “how” and “why” are indistinguishable. You simply cannot provide me with a real “why” or “how” grounded in anything other than faith, for the answer does not exist in the realm of science, and never will.

>> No.21539896

>>21539748
Logic is immaterial, yet obeys the law of causality. The truth of premises causes valid conclusions. Thus not only our physical reality, but also a metaphysical reality obeys the law of causality. If causality is not limited to our physical reality, then there is reason to speculate about a metaphysical cause of the universe

>> No.21540082

>>21539724
Masturbation is more fun

>> No.21540097

How is there no progress in philosophy if philosophy gave birth to math and science

>> No.21540102

>>21539742
>Mathematically or scientifically answer why there is something instead of nothing.
0 + 0 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1. a lack of nothing is not necessarily anything, but something is unequivocally not nothing.

>> No.21540113

>>21539724
Progress in both ceased when the disciplines were separated and they both have been masturbatory ever since. Hate to agree with the trad larpers but they are right on this one.

>> No.21540263

>>21539731
This.

>> No.21540277

>>21539724
there'd be no math or science without philosophy you hypocritical wanker fuck. we get it, you hate thinking

>> No.21540283

>>21539731
fpbp

>> No.21540327

>>21540102
Does 0+1 really equal one? Can you justify the answer.

>> No.21540345

>>21539724
Oh it's this thread again.

>> No.21540358

I feel like psychology could have been a huge progress for philosophy but the stringent scientific approach used so as to gain results as good as physics ruined any chance it had.

>> No.21540632

OP has to be a Burger. Anyway - philosophy drags society to whichever direction it wants. Philosophy is such a powerful tool, that it has the power to shape the destiny of mankind, like no other human skill can. In fact, the kind of reasoning behind your post, was more or less a product of philosophy.


Humans are slaves of dead philosophers.

>> No.21540936

>>21539724
>All these solved areas of philosophy have answers. Why don't the unsolved areas?!
Hey is that cheese pizza? Sweet, /b/ loves cp. Oh wait, why don't you take it there, idiot.

>> No.21541212

>>21539724
Well what about democracy
What about human rights
What about the right to access sexual contents and pornhub
Bro South Korea banned Pornhub because these kind of intellectual masturbation never existed

>> No.21541330

Bro, you don't like the conclusion of this argument? Just do a Moorean Shift, bro!

>> No.21541393

>>21539742
>mathematics and science has not been able to answer this one question, therefore philosophy is still relevant even thought philosophy doesn't provide an answer either

why are philosophers so low iq?

>> No.21541399

>>21540097
it's funny how philosophytards on the defense always pull this "ackchuyally math & science is just philosophy" bullshit

>> No.21541444

>>21539748
> Therefore, there is no reason why there is something instead of nothing.
Far too high IQ for this board. But If you would read philosophy like Parmenides you would know that philosophy already discovered this.

>> No.21541473

>>21541444
Then why don't random things just pop into existence?

>> No.21541477

>>21541473
They do, look up virtual particles
ugh scientologists are a scourge.

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>>21539742
> Hah, you like empirical systems huh? Well then let's see you use your precious system to answer this impossible metaphysical question.

>> No.21541500

>>21541477
A Boltzmann brain just materialized over my house!

>> No.21541921

>>21541477
Is it appropriate to say they have no cause just because they're not part of a temporal causal chain? The "no cause" perspective shuts down thought but logic says something that obeys rules like a virtual particle is bound to a logical cause. There is some logical structure that shapes the emergent phenomena, causes it to express as it does in a somewhat predictable way.

>> No.21541956

>>21539724
Hey, philosopher here.

I apologize.

>> No.21541969

>>21539724
2500 years of masturbation has made me exceedingly good at it, and I blow the most satisfying loads imaginable.

>> No.21541978

>>21539748
>immediately fails to make even the most basic bitch distinction between causa efficiens and causa finalis
Start with the greeks you godforsaken pleb scum.

>> No.21542876

>>21541956
Ok, apology accepted. Now, uh, what you philosophers plan on doing for the next 2500 years?

>> No.21542992

>>21541473
>everything in the universe is based on cause and effect