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I want to become a fluent speaker of Latin. Is this book the way to go? (other than listening live Latin podcasts and yt videos ofc)

>> No.21527758

YAY, but use the Dowling method for 100% success. It's basically impossible to fail at Latin once you have all major paradigms memorized.

>> No.21527764

>>21527750
How many of Julius' sons have died so far? You should be able to answer this.

>> No.21527771 [DELETED] 

>>21527758
many thanks, kind stranger
>>21527764
Aemila got an abortion so technically still 0, get rekt chud

>> No.21527789

>>21527758
this is the perfect way to learn how to NOT read latin, have fun spending 1h on transverbalizing each page

>> No.21527796 [DELETED] 

>>21526237
does a non-incel version of this academy exists?

>> No.21527800

>>21527758
thanks, but I prefer a more input focused approach

>> No.21527829

>>21526237
does a non-incel version of this academy exist?
https://youtu.be/eEGS8wi9Tj8

>> No.21527857
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>>21527829
no, in fact you aren't even allowed to lift if you go there, which basically forces you to become a fucking DYEL
>We strongly recommend to all students not to waste time and energy on vain or useless activities, but to view studies and self-proficency as a priority.

>> No.21527885

>>21527750
Thomas Jefferson said it's too late for adults to learn Latin, but Alfred the Great said that capable adults should learn Latin. Who do I believe?

>> No.21527890

>>21527750
Ita

>> No.21527899

>>21527750
my poor child, latin is nice but all the books talk about the jew god. TO be free from judaism, you have to further back in time, ie greek and sanskrit

>> No.21527910

>>21527829
>vivarium novum
more like incellarium novum hahahahah
>>21527885
never trust an anglo about language learning

>> No.21527912

>>21527885
they didn't have LLPSI back then therefore their opinions are irrelevant

>> No.21527918

>>21527899
>TO be free from judaism
I'm Jewish and I'm learning Latin AND Greek in order to study our most successful PSYOP ever.

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>>21527857

>> No.21527936

>>21527885
just read LLPSI Familia Romana

>> No.21528060

Does someone knows any Latin VTuber?

>> No.21528305

Do Latxn nerds ever have sex? Is being a virgin a necessary prerequisite to learn Lat*n as an adult?

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>>21527934
>tfw Plato walks in and uses this retard as a barbell while giving a lecture on forms

>> No.21528432

>>21527829
Hahahaha what a bunch of dumb larpers
Also lol @ at the guy saying “saeculum” for 100 years when it actually meant 33.

>> No.21528465

is this the new fun /clg/?

>> No.21528576

>>21527829
That looks fun, and cools songs too, but what jobs can these guys find? Is this just a school profiting off rich kids who want to larp as classists?

>> No.21528598

>>21527750
>speaker of Latin
why?

>> No.21528601

>>21528598
why not?

>> No.21528602

>>21527934
>each piece of knowldege by an academic represents a muscle he didn't take care of, an organ that's going to waste

>> No.21528608

>>21527764
Aemilia got an abortion so still 0

>> No.21528657

>>21528576
>but what jobs can these guys find
cumdumpster for older men

>> No.21528689

>>21527750
There's nothing unique or special about LLPSI, its just a rote memorization exdrcise presented in a more fun way. You're presented a bunch of words, gradually, and made to repeat them over and over. It's rote. Which is fine, despite all the supposed advancements in educational techniques rote still proves to be superior when it comes to absorbing large chunks of information. Ultimately, reading LLPSI isn't going to speed up your latin any faster than just opening any other grammar book and doing the exercises, you still need to put 200-300 hours of study before acquiring basic fluency. There is only one real hack to language study and that is living among the natives but with Latin it's not a choice unless you're willing to get a job as a janny in Vatican

>> No.21528693

>>21528689
>t. retard

>> No.21528695

>>21528693
t. retard faggot nigger whoreson bitchboy tranny cockgobbler

Write something useful or kill yourself

>> No.21528703

>>21528689
get a load of this faggot lmao

>> No.21528708

>>21527829
Literal LARPing academy

>> No.21528709

>>21527750
All LLPSI apologists shoul be genocided.

>> No.21528743

>>21527750
No that's the worst book of all time

>> No.21528751

>>21528709
This

>> No.21528777

imagine not using multiple resources in unison, as if teaching "methodologies" are even real or have contraindications LOL

>> No.21528800

>>21528777
imagine not using just the best resource and instead jumping from book to book making 0 progress

>> No.21528929

>>21528743
weird way to spell "best"

>> No.21528960

>>21527750
It's completely fine. Use it as a graded reader along with a companion and mix it up with other readers you can get second hand, the Vulgate and some easier Classical texts later on.

>> No.21529022

>>21527750
You will need a grammar as well. LLPSI is an incredible reader but I came out of it shaky on how the grammar actually worked.

>> No.21529275

>>21528576
>Is this just a school profiting off rich kids who want to larp as classists?
Yes.

>> No.21529362

>>21527789
retard

>> No.21529364

>>21527800
dowling method is input focused. you learn paradigms first and then do input. it is literally just a massive boost for your input

>> No.21529744

>>21529364
RANIERI-dowling method

>> No.21529757

>>21529744
the regular dowling method also tells you to read llpsi

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why people who speak the latin equivalent of this think they have any authority? I hate how everyone assumes that latin is supposed to be spoken with their ridiculous accents. imagine of in the future someone told you that you're supposed to read shakespeare with an AAVE accent lmao

>> No.21530169

>>21527750
LLSPI aims to teach Latin using the "natural" method aka immersive but it totally fails to complete its actual goal by making the reader look through proper grammar.
So from the books purpose the author fails meaning there it would be a 0/10.
But to teach Latin again because of the author trying to teach in a way he has never learned and failing to understand what he is meant to teach he then gains a 1/10 because no one can learn Latin but the book looks pretty so it gets 1.

>> No.21530171

>>21528576
They can join the clergy, become Latin teachers or ancient Greek/Roman historians.
In case we can prolong our lives for thousands of years and witness spacetime travel, they will be chosen to visit ancient Greece and Rome to recover lost texts. I doubt any of those guys would be picked though, they look like they belong in a special needs school.

>> No.21530186

>>21530171
>can join the clergy
No you need years of experience
>become Latin teachers
Again you need to learn teaching

>> No.21530220

>>21530093
Is that Hawaii?

>> No.21530223

>>21530093
It's cool to ponder on how effortlessly we contemporary English speakers understand pidgins, yet, millennia from now, the impossible task they will pose to linguists to reconstruct them

>> No.21530228

>>21527758
>the Dowling method
writing conjugations down has been a learning method used in Europe for at least 150 years. i don't see why you would want to attach some *nglo's name to it

>> No.21530231

>>21530228
>for at least 150 years
9th or 8th century boys learnt by reciting declensions in Germany

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>>21530228
>>21530231
is it possible to read so much latin that it gets naturally internalized? this is the method i'm using

>> No.21530270

>>21530251
No, roman kids spoke italian until sent to school to learn proper grammar

>> No.21530273

>>21530251
No that would take 14x as long

>> No.21530278

>>21530273
how long did it take you?

>> No.21530282

>>21530278
1/14 as long

>> No.21530286

>>21530282
how much is 1/14 of never?

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This book made me quit Latin. I'm fluent in Sanskrit now and I've never looked back.

>> No.21530376

>>21530346
how often do you poo in the loo?

>> No.21530400

>>21530376
Now that I have read the Buddhist texts in Pali, I don't defecate. I hold it in.

>> No.21530440

>>21527750
yea, you faggot. not 'yay'

>> No.21530569

>>21529275
cope harder you poorfag nigger

>> No.21530761

>>21530569
>t. incel latinlet molested my miraglia

>> No.21530765

Repost from main

Boys in 9th century Germany

First they would memoirs the Psalms even without understanding what it meant
Then the Distichs of Cato and fables
Now they would get a grammar text by Alcuin, but another by Donatus also was very common
They also parsed lots of Latin as the main part of their learning

So in three years they were expected to be fluent in Latin spoken and read or by the time they were ten.

The Alcuin book was Dialogus Franconis et Saxonis de octo partibus
orationis

The source of the material was Reading in Medieval St. Gall by Grotans

>> No.21530862

>>21530251
have you ever learned any other language , at this point english feels like a native language to me and it took 10 years and thousands of hours of immersion. So start reading latin literature , at 40 books it will be more than enjoyable, at 100 you'll be good and at 200 you'll be excellent. At that point and even a lot earlier you'll be thinking in the language effortlessly.

>> No.21530901

>>21530228
>>21530231
>writing conjugations down has been a learning method used in Europe for at least 150 years
Alongside speaking the language with people who were fluent in it, of course, which LLPSI is supposed to imitate.

>> No.21530980

>>21530901
See >>21530765

>> No.21531013

>>21530980
I know, we all saw it, that just confirms what I posted.
>they did lots of memorization
>while speaking to people in Latin
LLPSI was created to mimic the second point, because it's hard to find people to speak Latin with these days.

>> No.21531130

>>21531013
>LLPSI was created to mimic the second point
It was created to get people reading earlier. The only way to get good at reading is to read. You 'comprehensible input' & 'tprs' fags need to understand that there is absolutely nothing "communicative" about Orberg's books. They are graded readers not textbooks for oral lessons. Literally everything you say is anhistorical anachronistic retroactive historical revisionism propagated by people who had never heard of a 'graded reader' before they found the orange holy grail. And if you didn't know what a graded reader was before reading this book, then you lost the right to argue about second language acquisition pedagogy.

If you HAD heard of a graded reader, then you wouldn't hate this book OR think it was anything special. You would just say "oh cool this is easier than Fabulae Faciles and more Classical than the Vulgate." and you would have read it and moved on with your life.

Thread over, everyone go home.