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Why do we dislike it again?

>> No.21501795
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>>21501787
We love it

>> No.21501828

>>21501795
I never see it brought up or recommended here.

>> No.21501833

>>21501787
I had to read this in Middle School. I didn't hate it but I remember absolutely nothing from it.

>> No.21501856

>>21501828
That's because people on this site don't read they bitch and whine about 'the greeks' and 'my pseudo philosophy'

>> No.21501859

>>21501833
Lucky you, you can now reread it and be surprised again.

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>>21501787
It's /lit/'s favourite book

>> No.21501916

>>21501787
The censorship I guess? The book itself is great.

>> No.21502028

This thread seems proper. I've had an itch for a great murder mystery. Already read this one. Anyone recommend any others that are great?

>> No.21502057

>>21502028
Five little pigs
Sparkling Cyanide
Cards On The Table

all Agatha Christie.

>> No.21502065

>>21501787
We don't. That's a great book.

>> No.21502085

>>21501787
>"They discover that the island's owner, a sleazy lawyer and drug trafficker called (((Isaac Morris)))"
Oy Vey!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None#Plot

>> No.21502093

>>21501856
Nailed it. Pseudo intellectualism is like a religion in this place.

>> No.21502109

Umineko for boomers. Not bad at all, but nips do it better.

>> No.21502115

>>21502109
>Do it better
How would you go about qualifying this hollow assertion?

>> No.21502162

>>21502115
Yokomizo mogs any classic western mystery. Nips have better locked room murders and a more active scene as well. Nowadays only soccer moms write mysteries in the west.

>> No.21502186

>>21502162
>Mogs
>Better
I challenge you to qualify these assertions with actual argumentation. Genuinely curious.
>Active scene
What's being written now, and by whom, has no bearing on who has done it better, broadly speaking.

>> No.21502193

>>21502109
>>21502162
Uminkeo completely destroys itself with too many throwaway characters, taking away from the mystery and locked room stuff to focus on fantasy debating bull shit and retarded exposition. Uminkeos at its best when it stays grounded in the very first part, where it's actually copying and then there were none.

>> No.21502208

I hate this edition because they changed the original title.

>> No.21502310

>>21502186
Better as in they basically defined the genre. Go read about the history of Shin Honkaku mysteries. On a side note, Kindaichi aged much better than Poirot as a character.
>>21502193
I deeply disagree. Umineko is more of a philosophical work on the nature of truth and reality than it is a pure mystery. The characters in the meta-world are concepts personalizad to help you visualize the operating forces in the material world.

>> No.21502765

>>21501787
It's a boring, piece of trash that relies on a deus ex machina solution in the end that has nothing to do with anything.

>> No.21502769

>>21501795
>corn
>qt bee gf
>cute kot
>cool skeleton
all of this?

>> No.21502772

>>21502186
>argumentation
I like it more

>> No.21502786

>>21501787
similar

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22children+of+men%22

humanity dies off because too many female estrogen hormones in the water made men infertile and animals and plants kept going tho so earth was restored to a lush green state with brutal nature doing its thing

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>> No.21503522
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>>21501787
It's probably not her absolute best, but it is still one of her better novels. I can see some readers suspension of disbelief being pushed too far with some of the scenes and behavior of the characters (Why not just stay together as a group? Always? For the entire weekend? Why keep separating to go to their separate bedrooms for the night, where they' be alone and at the mercy of the killer?). Overall I do think it is a well crafted story that required some real forethought from the author to make the whole thing plausible and not come of as ridiculous.

Also the 1945 film adaptation is pretty good:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWCp2H9OdXE&list=PLXEP8etEVdfrG3kiy7tAx6m8Vu2kGnoNT

>> No.21504336

>>21503522
Not the Umineko poster above. but that's what I liked about it. It lampshades this splitting up trope (and then the characters still get killed off).
I just disliked how Christie has the fake death happen. it just feels too much like an ass pull.