/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.21464248]

What are some leftie essential readings?

[Anonymous No.21464258]

There are none. Even Marx would make your average leftie vomit for how redpilled his takes are, and he will rage in seething madness.

[Anonymous No.21464287]

>>21464258
>redpilled
Oh tell me more about it

[Anonymous No.21464304]

>>21464287
That, for example, the only difference between a modern worker in capitalism and a slave on a Southern plantation in the 19th Century is the way in wich the surplus value is taken from him. Can you accept that?

[Anonymous No.21464352]

What do you mean by "leftie"?

Theory of justice by Rawls has been read by almost every liberal student since the early 90's. Very influential on contemporary liberals.
Most of them have been forced to write a rawls v nozick paper at some point.

[Anonymous No.21464360]

>>21464304
>a worker from the 19th century is as exploited as a slave

How is it outrageous exactly

[Anonymous No.21464376]

>>21464360
It's not, but it's difficult to accept, especially if you used to look down on slaves, and honestly I don't see your average seething activist leftie getting this fact into his head and accepting it calmly, "no I am not a slave", he will say into his head.

[Anonymous No.21464380]

>>21464360
Do you remember the backlash against Auschwitz or the great alibi?
It's going to be leftist screeches about how slavery and Holocaust are these very special events but for Marxists they are nothing out of the ordinary.

[Anonymous No.21464400]

>>21464376
Every single normie except the boomers claim they're muh slaves to the capitalist system.
You're literally retarded.

[Anonymous No.21464415]

>>21464400
Not really. They seethe about capitalism but they never make an effort to take apart the mechanics and look at what it means to be a slave and what is a slave mentality. I just see it as seething about negative emotions and muh capitalism seems like the ideal scapegoat for it. Not like they would be any different under communism, or that communism would be a more ideal form of government for them not to be as rebellious as under capitalism.

[Anonymous No.21464425]

>>21464376
You know that there is this concept called "recontextualization" right?

>>21464380
Brown-red bullshit

[Anonymous No.21464443]

>>21464258
>>21464287
Compare Marx's critique of capitalism in the Communist Manifesto:
>All that is solid melts into air, all that is SACRED is profaned
With a google search of the word "sacred" at your favorite lefty rag.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sacred+site%3Ajacobin.com

[Anonymous No.21464450]

>>21464248
Jean Claude Michea

[Anonymous No.21464452]

>>21464443
The notion of sacre is used as a weapon by the dominant class to protect its power, it can be whether religion or anything else, if you are not a radical marxist you can acknowledge it without being a profanator

[Anonymous No.21464480]

>>21464452
Marx laments the fact that "all that is sacred is profaned" by Capitalism.
If "the sacred" is what you say it is, "a weapon used by the dominant class to protect power", wouldn't he consider this a good thing?
Modern Marxist seem very anti-Marx about this.

[Anonymous No.21464503]

>>21464480
"Sacred" was meant as the social bonds between people, trust and friendship was replaced by exploitation from a social class to another

[Anonymous No.21464531]

>>21464503
Then why does the Marxist.org translation use the word "holy"?
Why does Marx complain about the degradation of the priests to mere "paid wage labourers"?

[Paul Auster Shill No.21464544]

>>21464425
It's not brown-red bullshit actually, just leftcom autism. (Which I agree with for the most part) The text doesn't downplay the atrocity of the holocaust in any way, it just points out that it was part of the culmination of a capitalist crisis and as such horrors like it aren't exclusive to the nazis; they're inevitable as long as the capitalist mode of production prevails. The text ends with a critique of the allies who hypocritically condemn the horrors of capitalism (the holocaust) to self-congratulate and propagandize their "democratic" form of capitalism.

[Anonymous No.21464549]

>>21464531
Because the bourgeoisie has taken over every aspect of society to turn it into more profit, thus they made they turned physicians, priests and every other non-mercantile contributor of society theur weapon to hold power, but its a bit anachronic since church has lost a lot of its power today, but scientifical contribution is still conditioned by its mercantile viability, you just have to see the scientifical publication business

[Anonymous No.21464568]

>>21464549
Would you say that the modern Marxist considers the degradation of priests and other holy and sacred things to be a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.21464577]

>>21464544
His analysis was biased for many points, mainly because it is tinted with primal antisemitism, which was used as a gravity point for far right and government infiltrations, the holocaust being the highest point of systemic massacre largely admitted among left rings

[Paul Auster Shill No.21464578]

>>21464480
Marx thought it's great that all the "sacred" feudal relations are profaned since a fully capitalist, industrialized society is a precondition for the next revolution in the mode of production

[Anonymous No.21464580]

>>21464568
I cant talk for other people, but i think that it is not the solution, rather, religion can be used as a tool against the bourgeoisie, there is a lot of socialist christians (mainly catholics) and religious people fought against totalitarist regimes

[Anonymous No.21464635]

>the highest IQ board on this website is incredibly stupid compared to me

Back to /sp/ where they at least accept their stupidity

[Anonymous No.21464672]

>>21464425
Bordigists are red-brown?
We're just saying any damn thing now.

[Anonymous No.21464677]

>>21464580
I mysel am a christian marxist/communist and I have no qualms regarding this apparent contradiction.

Socialism, Marxism even, wouldn't exist weren't for Christ bringing us the propect of redemption through a new alliance. Communism's ultimate goal is following God's first commandment for post-edenic mankind, Genesis 3:19.

[Anonymous No.21464693]

>>21464677
As long as you're conscious that your faith can be weaponized by a ruling class, you can even be a shintoist marxist

[Anonymous No.21464697]

>>21464635
What sport do you watch? I only go to spee for the wc, inspite of my dislike of football.