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Did it do DeLillo justice?

>> No.21454935

>>21454669
>>>/tv/

>> No.21454947

>>21454935
You may not know this because you don’t read, but the film is based on a book

>> No.21454949

>>21454947
You are retard and it's still a film.

>> No.21454953

>>21454949
It’s also a book. You probably just read books for children so you haven’t heard of it

>> No.21454956

>>21454949
>>21454953
Maybe if they sold copies at McDonald’s you’d have read it

>> No.21455030

>>21454956
Pretty ironic considering you are posting a netflix movie.

>> No.21455107

>>21455030
How many times have you been to McDonald’s this week?

>> No.21455427

>>21454669
I didn't get this peppy, upbeat, comedic energy from the novel at all like the film has

>> No.21455431

>>21455427
I did

>> No.21455447

>>21454949
But nobody on /tv/ reads, so it's hard to talk bout the book there.

>> No.21455541

>>21455447
Just post a thread with the cover of the book and the caption "Cast it".

>> No.21455545

I hated this movie from the second Adam Driver appeared on screen. I genuinely don’t understand what they were going for and I hate his take on the character. Everything feels wrong.

>> No.21455564

>>21455545
Nah he’s perfect you probably just only know Star Wars and marvel movies honestly

>> No.21455572

>>21455564
Ironic because this movie has about all the subtlety and tack of a Star Wars movie

>> No.21455577

A big part of this book was the experience of baby boomer living in a world gone crazy. Future Shock. A movie cashing in on Stranger Things 80's nostalgia totally contradicts that.

>> No.21455617

>>21455577
They should have just adapted it to modern times. It would have worked just as well and would have elevated the source materials timelessness.

>> No.21455623

>>21454669
is this the book about the nazi history specialist?

>> No.21455629

>>21454669
The book sucks

>> No.21455698

>>21455572
Are you trying to say “tact”?

>> No.21455734

>>21454669
Yes, even DeLillo said it was kino.

>> No.21455748

>>21455564
>marvel movies honestly
Pls knock on a wood, he hasn't done capeshit yet, I hope he will stay away from it after he got burned with nu wars. I want him in my artsy movies directed by depressed French movie directors

>> No.21455749

>>21455734
DeLillo got a check from Netflix to not bash it. Of course he said it was good.

>> No.21455770

>>21455749
What makes you think that

>> No.21455801

>>21455749
If you at least remotely know him, you know he would have being passive-aggressive and sneaky in his "praise", he legit liked it.

>> No.21455847

>>21455770
>>21455801
Why would Netflix even take a chance? It’s easier to send a check than to deal with the negative press of the author openly hating it. I’m not saying he didn’t actually like it, but he’s not exactly non-biased, even outside of being the author of it.

>> No.21456535

>>21455847
Name one movie adaptation that failed because the author of the novel did not like it.

>> No.21456733

>>21454669
Very unfaithful adaptation. I know for a fact that in the novel Babette is described naked and topless several times. Not once does Greta Gerwig get a titty out. Massive disappointment.

>> No.21457121

>>21454669
It's just OK, imo. As a standalone film it's pretty good. I don't expect it to win any huge awards, though I could be wrong.

I think the failing aspects of the movie are because that the book was simply not designed with much intention of movie adaption. The most praised content of the book is the reflective monologue and the absurd and ironic humor, and that can't really entertain a mainstream movie audience. I just hope such an amazing story doesn't get ruined by tiktok or garbage memes because of this movie.

>> No.21457128

Genuinely one of the biggest crocks of shit I've ever seen. The book is unfilmable and trying to adapt it into a normie-friendly Netflix film was a horrible mistake. It's so unfocused. The tone is so wrong. The only good things in it are the things ripped directly from the book.

>> No.21457395

>>21457128
>mistake. It's so unfocused. The tone is so wrong. The only good things in it are the things ripped directly from the book
So the entire movie lol? All the dialogue is straight from the book, and it was an extremely faithful adaptation. I hate retards like you. I bet you didn't watch it or read the book.

>> No.21457535

Don Cheadle was a pretty bad pick for Murray J Siskind and I think they botched the Gray Man scene.

Otherwise I thought it was pretty decent.

>> No.21457942

>>21456733
Her black nipples are horrible anyway

>> No.21457949

>>21457395
Imagine being proud of watching a netflix movie only because it's based on a book.

>> No.21458036

>>21454669
The LCD Soundsystem dance sequence at the end made me feel happy to be alive honestly. Adam Driver was great. Overall would recommend it even though all these movies with a post-modern aesthetic feel very samey to me. I was reminded of Synecdoche, NY and Under the Silver Lake a few times while watching this. Same cluttered tone.
>>21457535
The end scene was really the only thing I remembered from the book going into the movie and yeah I could tell they didn't get it right, wasn't very vivid or intense.

>> No.21458945

>>21454669
No

>> No.21459130

>>21455623
Yeah
>>21455629
yeah
>>21458945
yeah

>> No.21459541
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21459541

If it isn't making people neurotic and planting the absolute terror of death deep inside their bones then this shit has failed on every level.

WHERE THE FUCK IS WHITE NOISE FAG WITH HIS DAILY DEATH REMINDERS WHEN WE NEED HIM THE MOST?

>> No.21459782

>>21454669
No. It was pretty bad, even by Netflix standards and whoever wrote the adaptation should never be employed again, in any field.
It ends with a dance number.

>> No.21459788

>>21455545
He’s a kino actor and literally improved every film he stars in. DYEL chinlets like you seethe because you cannot handle the fact that he came from nothing and achieved everything by simply not giving up, most people here can't relate to such a masculine drive in life, that's why they mostly simp faggot actors

>> No.21459792

>>21459788
Is this a /tv/ pasta or something? It's pathetic enough that it can't be an organic post

>> No.21459810

>>21457395
>and it was an extremely faithful adaptation
It literally ripped entire plotlines out of the book and it changed the ending. Fuck off shill.
>>21457949
He gets paid to post

>> No.21459817

>>21459792
Post chin.

>> No.21459825

has anyone else noticed all shills have the same posting style and 2017 twitter tone and mannerisms that imitate 4chan but in a sanitized way
>DYEL? Chinlet. Post arms.

>> No.21459830
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21459830

>has anyone else noticed all shills have the same posting style and 2017 twitter tone and mannerisms that imitate 4chan but in a sanitized way
>>DYEL? Chinlet. Post arms

>> No.21459831

never saw the movie, but i just realized the reason all of the hitler studies guy's wives are ex-intel is because they were surveilling him due to his involvement in hitlerism which is a cute pynchonian paranoia but also says something about his personality that he passively accepts women like that.

>> No.21459841

>>21459830
When you no longer work this job, do you promise you'll explain the mechanics of it and why you had to post so many chinlets and basedjaks from your iphone? Why always the same ones? Why specifically so much defending movies and celebrities..?

>> No.21459847

>>21459841
>Why specifically so much defending movies and celebrities
Because Netflix has to keep their product relevant and their talent in good graces

>> No.21459858

>>21459825
/lit/ isn't significant enough to have paid shills. 4chan hasn't been the minor-league cultural tastemaker that it once was for nearly 6 years.
You're an imbecile

>> No.21459863

>>21459841
yeah i wish i could get a better reveal of viral marketing work. i've done all the available courses and bootcamp content that's online, but it's always really basic bitch stuff like a/b testing ads on facebook and writing content marketing posts about your tech stack or something, "growth hacker" shit is a little better but doesn't get into the real shit like talent agencies hiring actors in los angeles and making them into influencers by writing their content and paying clickfarms in china to make them trend etc. i guess the only way to learn it is to get a job and learn from the inside. you can only get little glimpses of it in books like "attention factory" etc. but it's very secretive.

>> No.21460085

>>21459847
>>21459830
actual bot detected

>> No.21460095
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>actual bot detected

>> No.21460125

>>21459541
Keked.

>> No.21460753

>>21459541
He's probably on /tv/ posting warhammer threads

>> No.21460763

>>21455617
True!

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For a two and a half hour long movie, they still decided to cut my favorite part of the book, the scene about the most photographed barn in the world. Generally speaking when they cut things I like, there isn't really an issue. The hobbit movie cut 15 Birds because it didn't thematically go with the aesthetic they were going for, I get it, the movies were shit, but I get it.

Them cutting the barn scene is indicative of them not quite getting it. Like they spent too much time figuring out how to adapt each individual element of the plot into a movie they killed the bits that made the book so unique. Each part that was supposed to be the awkward and uncomfortable self realizations were framed as serous discussion scenes, they made the purposely awkward dialogue of the book into unironic straight forward scenes, which makes the awkwardness of the whole bit lose it's luster. The introduction, the scenes at the school, the scenes at the supermarket, those were the one's as close to the book as they could get. I think the problem is that the two main actors weren't ugly enough and didn't portray being truly in middle class love like the book does. It's suppose to be this strange and cringe lovey dovey 1950s TV kinda chemistry, but the actors and the script writer wrote the dialogue, again, as if it was a normal movie.

The middle section with the toxic airborne event was great, I enjoyed the dramatic shift in color, composure, etc. But they again didn't get it all correct. It was like half the movie was directed by Edgar Wright and when it worked it worked for that overwhelming quick and snappy consumerism. The other chunk of the movie, the part that actually made the plot move forward, felt like they were superficially trying to pull what James Ponsoldt did at The End of the Tour or even fucking MY DINNER WITH ANDRE, but it just didn't work. I didn't feel they were truly in Xanax love enough to be able to be that flat for so long of the movie. Because of that the meandering murder third act just didn't work as well as it did in the book, they shoe horned it into an actual plot and not just a 'I don't know how to end the book, here's some nuns.'.

Thank god for that dance number at the end.

>> No.21460910

>>21455545
He’s so annoying and ugly. I don’t get it either and never will.

>> No.21460930

>>21459541
I don’t know man the Demiurge seems kind of cool. I want to hangout with him.

>> No.21461021

>>21460910
If adam driver was really annoying and ugly then THE MOVIE WOULD HAVE WORKED.

>> No.21461034

>>21460851
they cut the barn part? dude what the hell, that was peak pomo and seemed to influence dfw at least with regard to that interview were he starts talking about documentaries about egrets. how long would it have really taken to include the barn? three minutes? did they keep the punjabi kids in iron city? that would be literally two seconds.

>> No.21461203

>>21461034
They did cut the barn part. They kept the interactions with the other teachers to these quick round table disassociate discussions and the super market. They wanted to get all the major plot points across in the time allotted so quite a bit of the side content of the book was cut, which is, of course, the parts of the book that make it all pomo. One of the reasons I think they did it is because they cut most all of the narration from it except for one or two spots where they just mechanically didn't have any other way to get across the point or bridging between scenes. It was very out of the blue when he did narrate. The barn scene, without narration or meta commentary, would have been a long shot and a quick back and forth. It would have been a 60 second gag that I think is so isolated that they just cut it instead of having to get a set and extras together to make that scene actually work in a visual medium, which, is partly what the most photographed barn scene was about. Probably too meta and too close to home about how pointless making a movie of a book about all that stuff really would be. They cut the punjabi kids too.

>> No.21461209

i doubt it but did they keep that possibly homophobic part in during the turbulent flight part where a male pilot gets on the intercom and goes "i love you lance!" and the passengers think "what kind of people are in charge of this situation?!" maybe a throw away line at the time, it def hits different today.

>> No.21461262

>netflix movie
>directed by a jew
>starring his jew nepo wife
nah

>> No.21461264

>>21461209
No. Any side story outside the core family isn't told. It's all from Adam Driver's perspective. Any bit that didn't move the 10 part 'plot' along wasn't included either.

>> No.21461534

>We come to this place for magic
We come to theaters to laugh, to cry, to care, because we need that–all of us. That indescribable feeling we get when the lights begin to dim, and we go somewhere we’ve never been before. Not just entertained but somehow reborn together. Dazzling images on a huge silver screen. Sound that I can feel. Somehow, heartbreak feels good in a place like this. Our heroes feel like the best part of us. And stories feel perfect and powerful. Because here…they are.

Do people seriously think DeLillo has good prose? Lol

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>>21460930
Good news. You are hanging out with Him. Always. Forever.

>> No.21461982

>>21461534
>phoneposter has no taste
Imagine my shock

>> No.21462471

>>21455427
it did have that at some points. when theyre sitting around not taking the evacuation seriously, the kid that wanted to be caged in with snakes, the old father talking about his old dying body. Delillo can be funny.

>> No.21462476

>>21455545
I dont understand people's fixations with adaptations having to be perfectly equal to the source material. there would be no point in adapting anything in the first place.

>> No.21462479

>>21455572
ironic because the book barely has a ny subtlety and Big D frontloads all the information you need you didnt read the book you fucking pseud.

>> No.21462484

>>21455427
how are your Hitler studies going?

>> No.21462486

>>21455572
but we no longer live in a consumer society

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>>21459541
Anon are you telling me you took the book seriously and actually made you afraid of death? AHAHAHAHHAHA

>> No.21462494

>>21462486
meant for >>21455617

>> No.21462567

>>21454669
No