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This is beter than sex.

>> No.21451989
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>> No.21452002

>>21451989
Obsessed

>> No.21452038

>>21451986
I've had this on my list for years, need to get to it.

>> No.21452046

>>21451986
And how would you know Sarjesh?

>> No.21452253

>>21451989
Stay mad prot

>> No.21452912

>>21451986
I read a lot of fantasy and sci-fi through high school but I was always a plotfag, it was reading BotNS in college that I realized the sublime beauty of words. Really opened up my world.

>> No.21453004

>>21451989
Every person who I know and who likes Wolfe loves Vance and CAS, assuming they've read them.

>> No.21453019

>>21451986
how would you know tho ?

>> No.21453024

>>21451986
That opening scene to Shadow is fucking amazing. The rest of the series was great but nothing compared to that.

>> No.21453153

>>21451986
Just read the first chapter. This shit is for edgy teenagers.

>> No.21453424

>>21453024
God really. I've been reading it and not liking the beginning at all. Maybe I'll give it up.

>> No.21454043

>>21453424
I'm like 150 pages in and I didn't enjoy the intro at all. I think it gets going pretty well once he develops a relationship to the imprisoned woman

>> No.21454406

>>21452912
retard
>>21453004
wolfefags literally believe that wolfe created the dying earth genre
BOTNS is trash
smith mogs it. vance mogs it. hodgson mogs it

>> No.21454470

>>21454406
No one has ever claimed that Wolfe created the dying earth subgenre. Stop making up strawman reasons to dislike the book or its fans.

>> No.21454485

>>21451989
Tales of the dying earth was legit boring tho. I might be a pleb, of course.

>> No.21454522

He may not be better than literary authors but he feels like Proust compared to other fantasists. Nobody has internet arguments like this about Malazan Book of the Fallen lol or even about Tolkien.

>> No.21454556

>>21454470
I've interacted with Wolfe fanboys on this site who think Wolfe created the dying earth genre
Stop defending a mid rate author
at 19 ashton smith was semi-famous across the west coast for his poetry, he almost met jack london, he mogs wolfe completely

>> No.21454580

>>21454556
>muh imaginary enemies
Meds, now.

>> No.21454701

>>21453024
>>21453153
>>21453424
>>21454043
Intro and Garden is pure incontestable kino.
Other than that I didn't think the book was very good but those two parts were both kino.

>> No.21454793

>>21454701
Every chapter is amazing. It's like taking a tour through an immense palace and every room has something fantastic in it.

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>>21454522
John Crowley and Mervyn Peake also came close IMO.

>> No.21455761

>>21454556
>>21454406
you are here and always mad for no reason. so strange

>> No.21455779

>>21455581
Crowley and Peake are better IMO

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>>21455581
John Crowley wrote this and it may be in my top 5 now.

>> No.21455791

So is Gene Wolfe really a genuinely great author who has mastered the English language? Do his works qualify as actual literature?

>> No.21455813

>>21455791
There is a guy who comes in every wolfe thread who says he is a hack because so many people suck wolfe's dick and call him just that, a master. It is somewhere in between though. Personally I'd say he is closer to master.

>> No.21456006

>>21455761
because wolfe is a hack
>>21455791
He is a hack
his work is middling. of course it's better than sanderson and the other dreck that you see in the fantasy section of bookstores but he isn't anything special

>> No.21456900

Why are you guys talking about Wolfe in the present tense like he's still alive?

>> No.21457494

>>21454470
>/lit/ is one person
where did wolfe touch you?

>> No.21457502

>>21456900
Authors exist after they die (as authors, not as people, of course).

>> No.21457627

>>21455791
I can't speak to his other work but botns is truly captivating and as much as I have an aversion to fantasy/scifi it was a genuinely inspired piece of art.

>> No.21457653

>>21455761
He has nothing else in his life other than getting mad at readers on an anonymous imageboard

>> No.21457770

>>21451986
I wouldn't know

>> No.21457818

>>21455791
He strikes me as the kind of guy who's enough of a SFF nerd at heart to not see the need for nonstop purple prose, but still appreciates writing and language enough to play around with voicings, metatextualism, questions of communication, and other "literary" themes.
He would never write Ulysses but no other "genre fiction" author could write the Solar Cycle.

>> No.21458836

>>21454406
>wolfefags literally believe that wolfe created the dying earth genre
who cares about the dying earth when there's giant women in his books?

>> No.21459422

>>21454406
>wolfefags literally believe that wolfe created the dying earth genre
No, in fact Vance gets a lot of traction exactly because he inspired Wolfe. Wolfe is quite literally a part of the Vance pipeline.

>> No.21459552

>>21459422
>wolfefag so uneducated with the genre thinks vance created it
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
OH NO NO NO

>> No.21459554

>>21451989
Holy fucking BASED

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The worst thing about it is the fact we only get glimpses into the misadventures of Baldanders and dr Talos